From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V11 #266 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Thursday, November 16 2006 Volume 11 : Number 266 Today's Subjects: ----------------- RE: [AVALON] Re: Bryan Ferry Tour [] RE: [AVALON] Re: Bryan Ferry Tour [] RE: [AVALON] Re: Bryan Ferry Tour [] [AVALON] Cost of tix [LenThomson@HBOSplc.com] [AVALON] Dylan album/tour [Chandla911@aol.com] [AVALON] Robin Birley [Chandla911@aol.com] [AVALON] Kate Moss [Chandla911@aol.com] RE: [AVALON] Re: Bryan Ferry Tour ["Martin Stockman" ] RE: [AVALON] Robin Birley [] Re: [AVALON] Robin Birley ["michiel" ] Re: [AVALON] Robin Birley ["michiel" ] RE: [AVALON] Robin Birley [] Re: [AVALON] Robin Birley ["michiel" ] RE: [AVALON] BOYS AND GIRLS - FERRYS MASTERPIECE ["KB Porter" ] RE: [AVALON] BOYS AND GIRLS - FERRYS MASTERPIECE ["Martin Stockman" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Re: Bryan Ferry Tour This is good news because when it says "finishing touches" it means he cant take too long! Excellent stuff, I can see RAH, Brighton and Glasgow on the hit list Rob info@vivaroxymusic.com writes: Bryan Ferry is putting the finishing touches to his album of Bob Dylan songs due to be released in Spring next year. The album will be supported with a UK tour. The dates are as follows: March 2007 01 CARLISLE Sands Centre 03 DUNDEE Caird Hall 04 GLASGOW Clyde Auditorium 05 EDINBURGH Playhouse 07 GATESHEAD Sage Theatre 08 BIRMINGHAM Symphony Hall 10 MANCHESTER Bridgewater Hall 11 SHEFFIELD City Hall 13 NOTTINGHAM Royal Centre 14 LONDON Royal Albert Hall 16 BRISTOL Colston Hall 17 CARDIFF St. David's Hall 19 IPSWICH Regent Theatre 20 BRIGHTON Dome 22 HARROGATE International Centre 23 LIVERPOOL Philharmonic Hall The tickets will go on sale here: http://www.livenation.co.uk/events/event_info.aspx?rid=216388 Ticketmaster 0870 400 0688 Regards John O'Brien ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 09:58:21 -0000 From: Subject: RE: [AVALON] Re: Bryan Ferry Tour Which arena is nearest the front in the RAH, A, E or F? Cheers Rob ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 11:34:15 -0000 From: Subject: RE: [AVALON] Re: Bryan Ferry Tour For anyone else like me who only ever goes there for a Ferry concert, Ive answered my own question! A&F it would appear http://www.theatremonkey.com/ROYALALBERTHALLARENA.htm you can only get stall tickets as of a minute ago though, so I'll wait a bit! Cheers Rob - -----Original Message----- From: rob.whiteford@larcltd.co.uk [mailto:rob.whiteford@larcltd.co.uk] Sent: 16 November 2006 09:58 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: RE: [AVALON] Re: Bryan Ferry Tour Which arena is nearest the front in the RAH, A, E or F? Cheers Rob ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 11:35:28 -0000 From: LenThomson@HBOSplc.com Subject: [AVALON] Cost of tix Just got my tix for the Ferry gig at Edinburgh Playhouse in March. Cost ? #45 per ticket plus #5 per ticket booking fee !!!!!! I'm sorry folks, but I have to let off steam somewhere. FOR F*CKS SAKE !!!!!! FIFTY F*CKING BUCKS A SKULL !!!!!! I'll be wanting Katy sitting on my lap all night for that. Regards to all, Len - -- - ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- - - HBOS plc, Registered in Scotland No. SC218813. Registered Office: The Mound, Edinburgh EH1 1YZ. HBOS plc is a holding company, subsidiaries of which are authorised and regulated by the Financial Services Authority. ============================================================================= = ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 06:39:23 EST From: Chandla911@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Dylan album/tour Crushed but not surprised at the abeyance of Roxy activity. But pleased that Ferry is doing something he might actually find rewarding. like many, I worried about ATGB amd. like many, found the whole thing to represent a rebirth of this renaissance man (see what I did there?). Best wishes Richard Mills PS See you at the RAH! ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 06:47:22 EST From: Chandla911@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Robin Birley Did anyone see the whole page devoted to the PR struggle devoted to showing RB in a positive light? He gave full access to a journo and spoke about {headline] "Tigers, tarts and the family rift". Not sure where Lucy Helmore fitted in here. Liked the way, after two weeks of marriage, asked how it was going, he answered "So far, so good". As cautious goes, makes Gordon Brown seem positively devil-may-care. Odd how the writer spotted his desire to kiss his dog all over its face (no, not Lucy, a real canine) at times when he showed signs of stress. Very odd how Lucy has fallen for a green campaigner, looking to make the planet carbon neutral, after all these years of living with and raising those who look to lay waste to the countryside as they gallop roughshod over farm crops and forestation, killing animals. But live and let die, ripped to shreds by hounds, I say. Speaking of being ripped to shreds by animals, he tells of how his facial disfigurement came at the age of 12 when mauled by a lioness in a Kent zoo and the reconstruction surgery that followed. Rather puts me and Lee Sullivan in our places... Best wishes Richard Mills ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 06:50:47 EST From: Chandla911@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Kate Moss Visit the Agent Provocateur site at _http://www.agentprovocateur.com/miss_x/scale/movie2.php?isource=6B08_ (http://www.agentprovocateur.com/miss_x/scale/movie2.php?isource=6B08) and ladies, look at the latest lingerie just in time for Christmas. Oh and ladies, watch the latest movie of Kate Moss' sex fantasies semi-clad and modelling said lingerie. There could be something on the site that would interest us males, but I haven't really looked...I do know that there is a Ferry connection via director Mike Figgis. Best wishes Richard Mills ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 11:52:02 -0000 From: "Martin Stockman" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Re: Bryan Ferry Tour With regard to RAH tickets I have booked, and always book, the seats in the lower circle, below the boxes, just in front of the stage to the right. Slightly elevated, but really close to the stage. The stalls are fine but diminished atmosphere and viewing beyond row 8, in my opinion.... Viva Ferry / Zimmerman - a marriage made in heaven - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org] On Behalf Of rob.whiteford@larcltd.co.uk Sent: 16 November 2006 11:34 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: RE: [AVALON] Re: Bryan Ferry Tour For anyone else like me who only ever goes there for a Ferry concert, Ive answered my own question! A&F it would appear http://www.theatremonkey.com/ROYALALBERTHALLARENA.htm you can only get stall tickets as of a minute ago though, so I'll wait a bit! Cheers Rob - -----Original Message----- From: rob.whiteford@larcltd.co.uk [mailto:rob.whiteford@larcltd.co.uk] Sent: 16 November 2006 09:58 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: RE: [AVALON] Re: Bryan Ferry Tour Which arena is nearest the front in the RAH, A, E or F? Cheers Rob ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon - -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.1/527 - Release Date: 11/9/2006 - -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.1/527 - Release Date: 11/9/2006 ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 12:37:45 -0000 From: "Martin Stockman" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Robin Birley Richard This is truly moronic. Country people are obsessive about conservation and environmental issues. The fox-hunting debate is a distraction. Bryan has said he sees more beauty in a tree than almost anything. This is your worst post, and that is saying something. Martin - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Chandla911@aol.com Sent: 16 November 2006 11:47 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: [AVALON] Robin Birley Did anyone see the whole page devoted to the PR struggle devoted to showing RB in a positive light? He gave full access to a journo and spoke about {headline] "Tigers, tarts and the family rift". Not sure where Lucy Helmore fitted in here. Liked the way, after two weeks of marriage, asked how it was going, he answered "So far, so good". As cautious goes, makes Gordon Brown seem positively devil-may-care. Odd how the writer spotted his desire to kiss his dog all over its face (no, not Lucy, a real canine) at times when he showed signs of stress. Very odd how Lucy has fallen for a green campaigner, looking to make the planet carbon neutral, after all these years of living with and raising those who look to lay waste to the countryside as they gallop roughshod over farm crops and forestation, killing animals. But live and let die, ripped to shreds by hounds, I say. Speaking of being ripped to shreds by animals, he tells of how his facial disfigurement came at the age of 12 when mauled by a lioness in a Kent zoo and the reconstruction surgery that followed. Rather puts me and Lee Sullivan in our places... Best wishes Richard Mills ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon - -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.1/527 - Release Date: 11/9/2006 - -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.1/527 - Release Date: 11/9/2006 ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 12:59:21 -0000 From: Subject: RE: [AVALON] BOYS AND GIRLS - FERRYS MASTERPIECE Just listening to this at the moment, haven't played it for a while. With the recent discussion on Ferrys lyrical "block" I was just thinking how beautifully some of the lyrics here fit the music. "A feeling only, or a state of mind........." "I'm a stranger in your town, that's the place where I belong" "Gold and Silver walk the main street" "Half a man is twice as much, when he's on the line" "you know its all in my song, all the sin that I can take" "got to keep on movin, or I'll die" When he moved in the early eighties to this more subtle, concise, vague sort of lyric he was getting them to fit perfectly into the space in the music. Quite excellent imagery but it seems hard to repeat. I'm wondering if Ferrys block may have come from his lyrics being so deceptively simple? Its how he sings them and fits them to the music that makes them so powerful. Maybe he should write a wordy,complex piece on the Countryside, new labour, playing Tennis v Tony Blair, divorce, being mauled and divorced by tiger skin women with crooked smiles, advertising for M&S or whatever and forget the simple two syllable words for a bit? Something about the real world rather than abstract, more direct. Maybe even upbeat. I would give some examples, but I seem to be blocked. Cheers Rob ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 08:07:04 EST From: Jocelynfiske@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: Bryan Ferry Tour With regard to RAH tickets I have booked, and always book, the seats in the lower circle, below the boxes, just in front of the stage to the right. Slightly elevated, but really close to the stage. The stalls are fine but diminished atmosphere and viewing beyond row 8, in my opinion.... Don't forget to look behind you this time Martino. I will never forget your missed opportunity while trying to mime to you from the diminished view of the RAH stalls that Richard Hamilton was sitting directly in the seat behind yours. Classic. ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 13:16:21 -0000 From: Subject: RE: [AVALON] Robin Birley We'll look forward to the next Roxy album having a tree on the front then. Or a painting of a tree anyway. - -----Original Message----- From: Martin Stockman [mailto:martinstockman@btinternet.com] Sent: 16 November 2006 12:38 To: Chandla911@aol.com; avalon@smoe.org Subject: RE: [AVALON] Robin Birley Bryan has said he sees more beauty in a tree than almost anything. ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 13:16:21 -0000 From: Subject: RE: [AVALON] Robin Birley Saw this yes. Lucy as I recall was still being called Lucy Ferry just before the marriage, don't know that she reverted to "Helmore". Cheers Rob - -----Original Message----- From: Chandla911@aol.com [mailto:Chandla911@aol.com] Sent: 16 November 2006 11:47 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: [AVALON] Robin Birley Did anyone see the whole page devoted to the PR struggle devoted to showing RB in a positive light? He gave full access to a journo and spoke about {headline] "Tigers, tarts and the family rift". Not sure where Lucy Helmore fitted in here. ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 13:53:28 +0100 From: "michiel" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Robin Birley Speaking of being ripped to pieces, I do believe there was a bit of tongue in his cheek. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Stockman" To: ; Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 1:37 PM Subject: RE: [AVALON] Robin Birley > Richard > This is truly moronic. Country people are obsessive about conservation and > environmental issues. The fox-hunting debate is a distraction. Bryan has > said he sees more beauty in a tree than almost anything. This is your > worst > post, and that is saying something. > Martin > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org] On Behalf Of > Chandla911@aol.com > Sent: 16 November 2006 11:47 > To: avalon@smoe.org > Subject: [AVALON] Robin Birley > > Did anyone see the whole page devoted to the PR struggle devoted to > showing > > RB in a positive light? He gave full access to a journo and spoke about > {headline] "Tigers, tarts and the family rift". Not sure where Lucy > Helmore > fitted > in here. > > Liked the way, after two weeks of marriage, asked how it was going, he > answered "So far, so good". As cautious goes, makes Gordon Brown seem > positively > devil-may-care. > > Odd how the writer spotted his desire to kiss his dog all over its face > (no, > not Lucy, a real canine) at times when he showed signs of stress. > > Very odd how Lucy has fallen for a green campaigner, looking to make the > planet carbon neutral, after all these years of living with and raising > those > who look to lay waste to the countryside as they gallop roughshod over > farm > > crops and forestation, killing animals. But live and let die, ripped to > shreds > by hounds, I say. > > Speaking of being ripped to shreds by animals, he tells of how his facial > disfigurement came at the age of 12 when mauled by a lioness in a Kent zoo > and > the reconstruction surgery that followed. Rather puts me and Lee Sullivan > in > > our places... > > Best wishes > Richard Mills > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.1/527 - Release Date: 11/9/2006 > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.1/527 - Release Date: 11/9/2006 > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 14:30:31 +0100 From: "michiel" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Robin Birley I've only heard him complain that he couldn't see the wood for the trees. (Running Wild) - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 2:16 PM Subject: RE: [AVALON] Robin Birley > We'll look forward to the next Roxy album having a tree on the front then. > > Or a painting of a tree anyway. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Martin Stockman [mailto:martinstockman@btinternet.com] > Sent: 16 November 2006 12:38 > To: Chandla911@aol.com; avalon@smoe.org > Subject: RE: [AVALON] Robin Birley > > > Bryan has said he sees more beauty in a tree than almost anything. > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 13:42:15 -0000 From: Subject: RE: [AVALON] Robin Birley And When she walks in the Room! (Wood you Believe?) - -----Original Message----- From: michiel [mailto:mvsleen@hotmail.com] Sent: 16 November 2006 13:31 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: Re: [AVALON] Robin Birley I've only heard him complain that he couldn't see the wood for the trees. (Running Wild) - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 2:16 PM Subject: RE: [AVALON] Robin Birley > We'll look forward to the next Roxy album having a tree on the front then. > > Or a painting of a tree anyway. ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 16:52:37 +0100 From: "michiel" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Robin Birley Slave to larch - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "'michiel'" ; Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 2:42 PM Subject: RE: [AVALON] Robin Birley > And When she walks in the Room! > > (Wood you Believe?) > > -----Original Message----- > From: michiel [mailto:mvsleen@hotmail.com] > Sent: 16 November 2006 13:31 > To: avalon@smoe.org > Subject: Re: [AVALON] Robin Birley > > I've only heard him complain that he couldn't see the wood for the trees. > (Running Wild) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 2:16 PM > Subject: RE: [AVALON] Robin Birley > > >> We'll look forward to the next Roxy album having a tree on the front >> then. >> >> Or a painting of a tree anyway. ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 11:37:52 -0500 From: "KB Porter" Subject: RE: [AVALON] BOYS AND GIRLS - FERRYS MASTERPIECE Eureka! Rob, I think you've said it perfectly: "When he moved in the early eighties to this more subtle, concise, vague sort of lyric he was getting them to fit perfectly into the space in the music." I can think of no better way to describe Bryan Ferry's "Boys And Girls", "Bete Noire", and "Mamouna" work! For me these three albums are the panicle of BF's solo work. I am always amazed with the sheer elegance that emanates from these works; the words are descriptive and meaningful, yet open to individual interpretation; the music is like a finely woven tapestry, nothing void and nothing gratuitous; the total package blows me away... windswept is the fan. "Quite excellent imagery but it seems hard to repeat." I truly believe Bryan Ferry was 'in the zone' when he penned the above mentioned album - pure genius at play. Perhaps it is a 'once in a lifetime' occurrence, but I'm betting he could do it again - if he is willing to submit his conscious self to his greater self (sorry, only Spiritualists might understand this nomenclature. Ah ha! I've been outed...). Point intended is, the physical being optimally operates in concert with one's 'soul' or 'spirit' - the 'total being' must be in play, free to create without self reprisal during the creation phase of art-making. Flakes Away! As for the earlier Roxy Music phase, I believe those wonderful lyrics came not from introspection (as with his 80's solo output) but were brought to life via free-association of words, ideas and emotion. It took no less genius to produce, only a difference in outcome in the form of 'lighter feeling' kitschy ironic lyric. Perhaps Mr. Ferry hadn't 'lived' so much that he had not yet become actively engaged with self-censor and self-consciousness. Darn it, if we don't 'shoot our selves in the foot' sometimes... Best wishes. KBP ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 10:44:49 -0500 From: "KB Porter" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Where black is the colour and none is the number "I know this makes me a heretic in the temple of the Great God Ferry, but I really dislike "I Thought"" Heretic! And Blasphemous, too, Richard!!! I don't much care for "I Thought", nor do I much care for the album "Frantic" (haven't listened to it in about two years). I must admit I like the flow and the rhythm of "Cruel", but the lyric is a problem for me. I think you've said it well: "My problem with Cruel is that it contrasts the 19th century Native American genocide with the "I'm so bored" problems of a factory worker. Perhaps that is the point, but I think mass-murder becomes trivialized next to dating problems." (But then, if the lyric is about postal employees with dating problems... perhaps the mass murder thing might fly. Oh tacky tacky me!) "ethnological dumpster diving" Hey, isn't that what we did last week looking for Taco Bell leftovers? Now Doing Penance. KBP ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 17:06:44 -0000 From: "Martin Stockman" Subject: [AVALON] ...addendum ... then he starts playing tennis and golf and hanging around with clean-living Colin Good and its all whoopee lets be Ella or Fred Astaire, lets be a millionaire! (With apologies to ABC) Am I alone in thinking that New York installation looked really interesting. As in REALLY interesting. Anyone on East Coast been?? R M - -----Original Message----- From: Martin Stockman [mailto:martinstockman@btinternet.com] Sent: 16 November 2006 17:02 To: 'KB Porter'; 'Avalon@smoe.org' Subject: RE: [AVALON] BOYS AND GIRLS - FERRYS MASTERPIECE ....to which I'd add....before Avalon his lyrics were a pastiche of the tortured romantic soul (eg Sentimental Fool, Serenade) yet sometime around the early 80s he started to actually live that life. Possibly not unconnected to drug addiction. The angst of the love / drug addict was all-encompassing and real, and we start to get Windswept, More Than This, Sensation, Painted Smile, New Town, Alphaville, Midnight Train, Chain Reaction.... dark stuff indeed. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org] On Behalf Of KB Porter Sent: 16 November 2006 16:38 To: Avalon@smoe.org Subject: RE: [AVALON] BOYS AND GIRLS - FERRYS MASTERPIECE Eureka! Rob, I think you've said it perfectly: "When he moved in the early eighties to this more subtle, concise, vague sort of lyric he was getting them to fit perfectly into the space in the music." I can think of no better way to describe Bryan Ferry's "Boys And Girls", "Bete Noire", and "Mamouna" work! For me these three albums are the panicle of BF's solo work. I am always amazed with the sheer elegance that emanates from these works; the words are descriptive and meaningful, yet open to individual interpretation; the music is like a finely woven tapestry, nothing void and nothing gratuitous; the total package blows me away... windswept is the fan. - -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.1/527 - Release Date: 11/9/2006 - -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.1/527 - Release Date: 11/9/2006 ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 17:02:13 -0000 From: "Martin Stockman" Subject: RE: [AVALON] BOYS AND GIRLS - FERRYS MASTERPIECE ....to which I'd add....before Avalon his lyrics were a pastiche of the tortured romantic soul (eg Sentimental Fool, Serenade) yet sometime around the early 80s he started to actually live that life. Possibly not unconnected to drug addiction. The angst of the love / drug addict was all-encompassing and real, and we start to get Windswept, More Than This, Sensation, Painted Smile, New Town, Alphaville, Midnight Train, Chain Reaction.... dark stuff indeed. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org] On Behalf Of KB Porter Sent: 16 November 2006 16:38 To: Avalon@smoe.org Subject: RE: [AVALON] BOYS AND GIRLS - FERRYS MASTERPIECE Eureka! Rob, I think you've said it perfectly: "When he moved in the early eighties to this more subtle, concise, vague sort of lyric he was getting them to fit perfectly into the space in the music." I can think of no better way to describe Bryan Ferry's "Boys And Girls", "Bete Noire", and "Mamouna" work! For me these three albums are the panicle of BF's solo work. I am always amazed with the sheer elegance that emanates from these works; the words are descriptive and meaningful, yet open to individual interpretation; the music is like a finely woven tapestry, nothing void and nothing gratuitous; the total package blows me away... windswept is the fan. - -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.14.1/527 - Release Date: 11/9/2006 ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 12:35:14 EST From: KWil632057@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Where black is the colour and none is the number In a message dated 16/11/2006 16:58:36 GMT Standard Time, kbporter@verizon.net writes: "My problem with Cruel is that it contrasts the 19th century Native American genocide with the "I'm so bored" problems of a factory worker. And why not? Perhaps Ferry is making a point. J ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 20:37:35 +0100 From: "michiel" Subject: Re: [AVALON] BOYS AND GIRLS - FERRYS MASTERPIECE Compare his simple monosyllabic lyrics with Dylan4s enormously long sentences and verses that go on for miles and miles out on Highway 61. He had a lot to say, but I fear Ferry doesn4t. So I agree he should write about what he finds interesting. Songs about money and music for instance, or May I Stay Forever Young, or about Jerry Hall and what she did to him. Michiel - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 1:59 PM Subject: RE: [AVALON] BOYS AND GIRLS - FERRYS MASTERPIECE > Just listening to this at the moment, haven't played it for a while. > > With the recent discussion on Ferrys lyrical "block" I was just thinking > how > beautifully some of the lyrics here fit the music. > > "A feeling only, or a state of mind........." > "I'm a stranger in your town, that's the place where I belong" > "Gold and Silver walk the main street" > "Half a man is twice as much, when he's on the line" > "you know its all in my song, all the sin that I can take" > "got to keep on movin, or I'll die" > > When he moved in the early eighties to this more subtle, concise, vague > sort > of lyric he was getting them to fit perfectly into the space in the music. > > Quite excellent imagery but it seems hard to repeat. > > I'm wondering if Ferrys block may have come from his lyrics being so > deceptively simple? Its how he sings them and fits them to the music that > makes them so powerful. > > Maybe he should write a wordy,complex piece on the Countryside, new > labour, > playing Tennis v Tony Blair, divorce, being mauled and divorced by tiger > skin women with crooked smiles, advertising for M&S or whatever and forget > the simple two syllable words for a bit? > > Something about the real world rather than abstract, more direct. Maybe > even > upbeat. > > I would give some examples, but I seem to be blocked. > > Cheers > Rob > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 19:54:25 -0000 From: Subject: RE: [AVALON] BOYS AND GIRLS - FERRYS MASTERPIECE Now this is interesting Michiel, yes track list...... 1. No Money left 2. No Music left 3. Mick nicked Jerry and he mucked her about and you wouldn't catch me doing that no sir 4. Mariella Frostrups in my lap 5. Dorian 6. My kids cant behave themselves 7. Leave the countryside alone you interfering idiots 8. I had to sell my house 9. I cant write lyrics anymore 10. The record company wouldn't release my record so I had to go Virgin Scallplatten Cheers rob - -----Original Message----- From: michiel [mailto:mvsleen@hotmail.com] Sent: 16 November 2006 19:38 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: Re: [AVALON] BOYS AND GIRLS - FERRYS MASTERPIECE Compare his simple monosyllabic lyrics with Dylan4s enormously long sentences and verses that go on for miles and miles out on Highway 61. He had a lot to say, but I fear Ferry doesn4t. So I agree he should write about what he finds interesting. Songs about money and music for instance, or May I Stay Forever Young, or about Jerry Hall and what she did to him. Michiel ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 21:18:39 +0100 From: "michiel" Subject: Re: [AVALON] BOYS AND GIRLS - FERRYS MASTERPIECE This is creepy, Rob! All of these track titles ring true, as if they were genuine Ferry songs! How on Earth did you do that? Or are you indeed... GASP... the Cool Ruler himself? And perhaps a bonus track... Bobby You Can Write My Songs. - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "'michiel'" ; Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 8:54 PM Subject: RE: [AVALON] BOYS AND GIRLS - FERRYS MASTERPIECE > Now this is interesting Michiel, yes track list...... > > 1. No Money left > 2. No Music left > 3. Mick nicked Jerry and he mucked her about and you wouldn't catch me > doing > that no sir > 4. Mariella Frostrups in my lap > 5. Dorian > > 6. My kids cant behave themselves > 7. Leave the countryside alone you interfering idiots > 8. I had to sell my house > 9. I cant write lyrics anymore > 10. The record company wouldn't release my record so I had to go Virgin > Scallplatten > > Cheers > rob > -----Original Message----- > From: michiel [mailto:mvsleen@hotmail.com] > Sent: 16 November 2006 19:38 > To: avalon@smoe.org > Subject: Re: [AVALON] BOYS AND GIRLS - FERRYS MASTERPIECE > > Compare his simple monosyllabic lyrics with Dylan4s enormously long > sentences and verses that go on for miles and miles out on Highway 61. He > had a lot to say, but I fear Ferry doesn4t. So I agree he should write > about > > what he finds interesting. Songs about money and music for instance, or > May > I Stay Forever Young, or about Jerry Hall and what she did to him. > > Michiel ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 21:26:37 -0000 From: Subject: RE: [AVALON] BOYS AND GIRLS - FERRYS MASTERPIECE To the tune of Baby you can drive my car of course? I've got lots in the can you know...... 1. Skint as f*** 2. Jerrys a tart 3. Lucys mental 4. Jailhouse Otis 5. Kill the fox 6. Otis you cant drive my car 7. Carlisle's a dump 8. Gateshead Revisited 9. My management is as much use as a handbrake in a canoe 10. Cant think of one - Instrumental 11. Carlisle?! (Hiroshima Remix) The Prisoner of Perfection............................ - -----Original Message----- From: michiel [mailto:mvsleen@hotmail.com] Sent: 16 November 2006 20:19 To: rob.whiteford@larcltd.co.uk; avalon@smoe.org Subject: Re: [AVALON] BOYS AND GIRLS - FERRYS MASTERPIECE This is creepy, Rob! All of these track titles ring true, as if they were genuine Ferry songs! How on Earth did you do that? Or are you indeed... GASP... the Cool Ruler himself? And perhaps a bonus track... Bobby You Can Write My Songs. - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "'michiel'" ; Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 8:54 PM Subject: RE: [AVALON] BOYS AND GIRLS - FERRYS MASTERPIECE ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 16:53:49 EST From: KWil632057@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] BOYS AND GIRLS - FERRYS MASTERPIECE In a message dated 16/11/2006 20:48:03 GMT Standard Time, mvsleen@hotmail.com writes: This is creepy, Rob! All of these track titles ring true, as if they were genuine Ferry songs! How on Earth did you do that? Or are you indeed... GASP... the Cool Ruler himself? A a member of the Bryan Ferry management team, I can tell you that he is. J ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2006 23:09:34 +0100 From: "michiel" Subject: Re: [AVALON] BOYS AND GIRLS - FERRYS MASTERPIECE Let's steer Mister Ferry past this "Wrote Block" by suggesting him a few more song titles. his looks My Painted Hair I Had A Facelift, Can You Tell his sons If I Didn't Carry Otis What Good Son Miss Otis (aka Just One Shot or Nimrod) Four Lads to Love (aka French Letter Love) It Ain't Mine Babe (Here's Looking at your Kid his money Oh My Money, My Money Run Price of Love Funny how Money Slips Away Please Da Ya Have Some Change his women I'll see you again (aka You won't see me) Walk a Mile on a Short Pier Stone women his drugs Lovely is the Drug Eight Miles High Just One, Look! Feel the Needle You go to my Head his writer4s block The Write Stuff Block of Ages Take Me To The Writer Don4t Worry Bobby Sorry, that'll do. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "michiel" To: ; Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 9:18 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] BOYS AND GIRLS - FERRYS MASTERPIECE > This is creepy, Rob! All of these track titles ring true, as if they were > genuine Ferry songs! How on Earth did you do that? Or are you indeed... > GASP... the Cool Ruler himself? > > And perhaps a bonus track... Bobby You Can Write My Songs. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: "'michiel'" ; > Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2006 8:54 PM > Subject: RE: [AVALON] BOYS AND GIRLS - FERRYS MASTERPIECE > > >> Now this is interesting Michiel, yes track list...... >> >> 1. No Money left >> 2. No Music left >> 3. Mick nicked Jerry and he mucked her about and you wouldn't catch me >> doing >> that no sir >> 4. Mariella Frostrups in my lap >> 5. Dorian >> >> 6. My kids cant behave themselves >> 7. Leave the countryside alone you interfering idiots >> 8. I had to sell my house >> 9. I cant write lyrics anymore >> 10. The record company wouldn't release my record so I had to go Virgin >> Scallplatten >> >> Cheers >> rob >> -----Original Message----- >> From: michiel [mailto:mvsleen@hotmail.com] >> Sent: 16 November 2006 19:38 >> To: avalon@smoe.org >> Subject: Re: [AVALON] BOYS AND GIRLS - FERRYS MASTERPIECE >> >> Compare his simple monosyllabic lyrics with Dylan4s enormously long >> sentences and verses that go on for miles and miles out on Highway 61. He >> had a lot to say, but I fear Ferry doesn4t. So I agree he should write >> about >> >> what he finds interesting. Songs about money and music for instance, or >> May >> I Stay Forever Young, or about Jerry Hall and what she did to him. >> >> Michiel ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V11 #266 ***************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest