From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V11 #263 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Tuesday, November 14 2006 Volume 11 : Number 263 Today's Subjects: ----------------- RE: [AVALON] Where black is the colour and none is the number [] Re: [AVALON] Where black is the colour and none is the number [KWil632057] RE: [AVALON] Dylan Covers [] [AVALON] ebony and irony ["danyellow" ] Re: [AVALON] Where black is the colour and none is the number ["michiel" ] Re: [AVALON] Dylan Covers ["michiel" ] Re: [AVALON] Where black is the colour and none is the number [KWil632057] Re: [AVALON] Where black is the colour and none is the number ["Andrew Sh] RE: [AVALON] Never gonna give you up [] RE: [AVALON] Never gonna give you up ["Andrew Shearer" ] RE: [AVALON] Where black is the colour and none is the number ["KB Porter] Re: [AVALON] Where black is the colour and none is the number ["michiel" ] Re: [AVALON] Where black is the colour and none is the number ["michiel" ] RE: [AVALON] Never gonna give you up ["Guy Lawley" ] Re: [AVALON] Never gonna give you up ["michiel" ] RE: [AVALON] Never gonna give you up [] Re: [AVALON] Where black is the colour and none is the number ["Rod LeClo] RE: [AVALON] Where black is the colour and none is the number [] Re: [AVALON] Where black is the colour and none is the number [KWil632057] RE: [AVALON] Where black is the colour and none is the number ["Rod LeClo] RE: [AVALON] Where black is the colour and none is the number [ Subject: RE: [AVALON] Where black is the colour and none is the number As you know I am a moaner, a whinger, and not worthy! I agree with you Michiel, I'm starving, but as you say the Dylan songs in isolation are good news. The tour even better news. I guess whether this is good or bad news for the Roxy album he has "taken a break" from time will tell. Might be in a Taxi/Mamouna sort of a way. Might not! And thanks to John O'Brien for letting us all know. Cheers Rob PS enjoyed Becks new album - -----Original Message----- From: michiel [mailto:mvsleen@hotmail.com] Sent: 13 November 2006 22:26 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: Re: [AVALON] Where black is the colour and none is the number Maybe those of us that are moaning are just starving for some choice quality ear-food, and the others obviously eat plenty elsewhere and maybe enjoy that just as much. Oh and yes, I am very much looking forward to the Dylan songs, but of course I was waiting for something else for quite some time. Michiel ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 05:57:06 EST From: KWil632057@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Where black is the colour and none is the number Best solo Ferry tour EVER.* J *and better than one or two Roxy tours for that matter!!! In a message dated 14/11/2006 07:40:20 GMT Standard Time, DEAGLERR@aol.com writes: In a message dated 11/13/06 1:45:22 PM, rob.whiteford@larcltd.co.uk writes: > It doesn't do to prejudge these things as the As Time Goes By" triumph > proved. > Triumph? Not to these ears. With his previous covers albums BF took the material and made it his own. (with mixed results) The only song that fits that bill on ATGB is I'm In The Mood For Love. (maybe because Manzanara played on it) The rest good, but traditional arrangements, could be by almost anybody. Regards R Deagle ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 11:03:26 +0000 From: "Andrew Shearer" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Where black is the colour and none is the number Got to say I'm not enthused by the news of the Dylan album but undoubtedly the ATGB tour was great. Maybe BF's had problems with the lyric writing for the Roxy Album and Katie's suggested doing an album of covers? Andrew >From: KWil632057@aol.com >To: avalon@smoe.org >Subject: Re: [AVALON] Where black is the colour and none is the number >Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 05:57:06 EST > >Best solo Ferry tour EVER.* > >J > >*and better than one or two Roxy tours for that matter!!! > > > > >In a message dated 14/11/2006 07:40:20 GMT Standard Time, DEAGLERR@aol.com >writes: > >In a message dated 11/13/06 1:45:22 PM, rob.whiteford@larcltd.co.uk >writes: > > It doesn't do to prejudge these things as the As Time Goes By" triumph > > proved. > > >Triumph? >Not to these ears. >With his previous covers albums BF took the material and made it his own. >(with mixed results) >The only song that fits that bill on ATGB is I'm In The Mood For Love. >(maybe because Manzanara played on it) >The rest good, but traditional arrangements, could be by almost anybody. > >Regards R Deagle > > >___________________________________________________________________________ >To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Messenger has arrived. Click here to download it for free! http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/?locale=en-gb ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 11:15:45 +0000 From: Stephen Thrower Subject: Re: [AVALON] Dylan Covers This is the answer to a prayer for me. I love Ferry's interpretations of Dylan, and it's through them that I have come to appreciate Dylan's songwriting. For many years I hated Dylan, due to an aversion to that scratchy voice, and a deeply ingrained dislike of strummed acoustic guitars. And that harmonica sound was so thin and screechy it made my fillings hurt. An old friend would occasionally tell me it was worth persisting to get to the lyrics, but I'm generally not interested in 'lyrics as poetry' if the music doesn't come out and play as well. I finally changed my mind after getting into Dylan's Street Legal album, which has a more varied sound pallette and reminded me of Leonard Cohen's later work. And when Frantic came out, I found both of the Dylan covers confirmed what my friend had said - the lyrics really were excellent too. So bring it on - I've wished for this many times and I'm thrilled to be getting it. And who knows, perhaps Ferry intends 2007 to be 1973 all over again - two Roxy Music albums and a solo album as well! So here's a possible track-listing: let's see who can get the highest strike rate on a 12-track score-card! Ballad in Plain D - She Belongs To Me - Pledging My Time - Most Likely You Go Your Way and I'll Go Mine - I'll Be Your Baby Tonight - The Man In Me - Simple Twist of Fate - You're Gonna Make Me Lonesome When You Go - Is Your Love in Vain - Baby Stop Crying - Cold Irons Bound - Love Sick Steve Thrower PS: I'd love to hear Ferry's take on She's Your Lover Now, but I think it's unlikely! She'll be standin' on the bar soon With a fish head an' a harpoon An' a fake beard plastered on her brow You'd better do somethin' quick She's your lover now. ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 06:26:18 EST From: KWil632057@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Where black is the colour and none is the number In a message dated 14/11/2006 11:09:36 GMT Standard Time, shearerandrew@hotmail.com writes: Maybe BF's had problems with the lyric writing for the Roxy Album and Katie's suggested doing an album of covers? Indeed, although her initial suggestions of an album of Stock, Aitken and Waterman covers fell on rather deaf ears.... I see the Dylan album as a stopgap, ala Taxi, perhaps designed to get out of his current recording contract?* J *I have to stress that I am not 'in the know' about this or any other Ferry/Roxy speculation despite rumours to the contrary.... ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 11:32:16 -0000 From: Subject: RE: [AVALON] Dylan Covers - -----Original Message----- From: Stephen Thrower [mailto:stevesimon@blueyonder.co.uk] Same for me Steve, I only persisted with Dylan cos Ferry liked him, but he grew on me. Eventually. Same with Johnny Ray - only listened to him because of Ferry. And Billie Holliday. Cheers Rob Sent: 14 November 2006 11:16 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: Re: [AVALON] Dylan Covers This is the answer to a prayer for me. I love Ferry's interpretations of Dylan, and it's through them that I have come to appreciate Dylan's songwriting ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 12:32:20 +0100 From: "danyellow" Subject: [AVALON] ebony and irony > Maybe BF's had problems with the lyric writing for the Roxy Album and > Katie's suggested doing an album of covers? > > Andrew I guessed U can change the name of the girls and the result doesn't change :-) for what I'm concerned ATGB is a bad album as pretty much the stuff recorded after the first reunion I mean the crappy flesh and blood and the dripping smoothly Avalon Since Rocsy changed a lot during their (His ? ) career I guess that fans have different tastes lotsa different I love the first and the second Roxy album....the rock laboratory....the seminal experiments....blah blah.... the after Eno era gave Rocsy bitter sweet (sic) taste Anyway I loved hard rains ,symphaty for devils, and alot the in crowded tunes maybe 'cose they sounded ferrianicly remade remodelled If the man doesn't work in andywarhol way on this new cd I'm afraid I'll buy another CD just for collection..... for what matters bogussed (bog pissed ) man opinion ciao ragazzi ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 13:47:28 +0100 From: "michiel" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Where black is the colour and none is the number Just imagine: 'Ferry sings Mel&Kim'. - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 12:26 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Where black is the colour and none is the number > In a message dated 14/11/2006 11:09:36 GMT Standard Time, > shearerandrew@hotmail.com writes: > > Maybe BF's had problems with the lyric writing for the Roxy Album and > Katie's suggested doing an album of covers? > > > Indeed, although her initial suggestions of an album of Stock, Aitken and > Waterman covers fell on rather deaf ears.... > > I see the Dylan album as a stopgap, ala Taxi, perhaps designed to get out > of > his current recording contract?* > > J > > > *I have to stress that I am not 'in the know' about this or any other > Ferry/Roxy speculation despite rumours to the contrary.... > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 13:59:15 +0100 From: "michiel" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Dylan Covers Excellent choice of songs Steve. I can easily imagine Ferry singing most of these songs(and after the Shanties, why wouldn't Ferry sing the fish and harpoon lyrics?) I would particularly love top hear the Blood on the tracks songs. As an appetizer this album will be great, I'm sure! I'm a Dylan fan as well, next to a Ferry fan, but I don't particularly like Ferry's versions of Dylan songs. None of them, actually. Ferry tends to polish Dylan's 'rough diamonds', which I think sounds misplaced, like snappy dressers in a spaghetti western. But I grant you the songs would get more accessible. Michiel - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Thrower" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 12:15 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Dylan Covers > This is the answer to a prayer for me. I love Ferry's interpretations of > Dylan, and it's through them that I have come to appreciate Dylan's > songwriting. For many years I hated Dylan, due to an aversion to that > scratchy voice, and a deeply ingrained dislike of strummed acoustic > guitars. And that harmonica sound was so thin and screechy it made my > fillings hurt. An old friend would occasionally tell me it was worth > persisting to get to the lyrics, but I'm generally not interested in > 'lyrics as poetry' if the music doesn't come out and play as well. > > I finally changed my mind after getting into Dylan's Street Legal album, > which has a more varied sound pallette and reminded me of Leonard Cohen's > later work. And when Frantic came out, I found both of the Dylan covers > confirmed what my friend had said - the lyrics really were excellent too. > > So bring it on - I've wished for this many times and I'm thrilled to be > getting it. And who knows, perhaps Ferry intends 2007 to be 1973 all over > again - two Roxy Music albums and a solo album as well! > > So here's a possible track-listing: let's see who can get the highest > strike rate on a 12-track score-card! > > Ballad in Plain D - She Belongs To Me - Pledging My Time - Most Likely You > Go Your Way and I'll Go Mine - I'll Be Your Baby Tonight - The Man In Me - > Simple Twist of Fate - You're Gonna Make Me Lonesome When You Go - Is Your > Love in Vain - Baby Stop Crying - Cold Irons Bound - Love Sick > > Steve Thrower > > > PS: I'd love to hear Ferry's take on She's Your Lover Now, but I think > it's unlikely! > > She'll be standin' on the bar soon > With a fish head an' a harpoon > An' a fake beard plastered on her brow > You'd better do somethin' quick > She's your lover now. > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 08:04:48 EST From: KWil632057@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Where black is the colour and none is the number And who was Rick Astley if not a young Ferry for the 1980's...? J In a message dated 14/11/2006 12:53:46 GMT Standard Time, mvsleen@hotmail.com writes: Just imagine: 'Ferry sings Mel&Kim'. ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 13:24:50 +0000 From: "Andrew Shearer" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Where black is the colour and none is the number Just a snipet - Mr Astley was back stage at the Mamouna concerts >From: KWil632057@aol.com >To: avalon@smoe.org >Subject: Re: [AVALON] Where black is the colour and none is the number >Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 08:04:48 EST > >And who was Rick Astley if not a young Ferry for the 1980's...? > >J > >In a message dated 14/11/2006 12:53:46 GMT Standard Time, >mvsleen@hotmail.com writes: > >Just imagine: 'Ferry sings Mel&Kim'. > > >___________________________________________________________________________ >To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Messenger has arrived. Click here to download it for free! http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/?locale=en-gb ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 13:40:36 -0000 From: Subject: RE: [AVALON] Never gonna give you up Do you know why Andrew? - -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Shearer [mailto:shearerandrew@hotmail.com] Sent: 14 November 2006 13:25 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: Re: [AVALON] Where black is the colour and none is the number Just a snipet - Mr Astley was back stage at the Mamouna concerts ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 13:45:59 +0000 From: "Andrew Shearer" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Never gonna give you up I assumed he just went to see the concert, and had an invite backstage afterwards Andrew >From: >Reply-To: >To: "'Andrew Shearer'" , >Subject: RE: [AVALON] Never gonna give you up >Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 13:40:36 -0000 > >Do you know why Andrew? > >-----Original Message----- >From: Andrew Shearer [mailto:shearerandrew@hotmail.com] >Sent: 14 November 2006 13:25 >To: avalon@smoe.org >Subject: Re: [AVALON] Where black is the colour and none is the number > >Just a snipet - Mr Astley was back stage at the Mamouna concerts > > >___________________________________________________________________________ >To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Messenger has arrived. Click here to download it for free! http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/?locale=en-gb ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 14:16:22 -0000 From: Subject: RE: [AVALON] Never gonna give you up Ah, thought you meant he was some sort of permanent feature doing something. Heaven Forbid. - -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Shearer [mailto:shearerandrew@hotmail.com] Sent: 14 November 2006 13:46 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: RE: [AVALON] Never gonna give you up I assumed he just went to see the concert, and had an invite backstage afterwards Andrew >From: >Reply-To: >To: "'Andrew Shearer'" , >Subject: RE: [AVALON] Never gonna give you up >Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 13:40:36 -0000 > >Do you know why Andrew? > >-----Original Message----- >From: Andrew Shearer [mailto:shearerandrew@hotmail.com] >Sent: 14 November 2006 13:25 >To: avalon@smoe.org >Subject: Re: [AVALON] Where black is the colour and none is the number > >Just a snipet - Mr Astley was back stage at the Mamouna concerts > > >___________________________________________________________________________ >To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Messenger has arrived. Click here to download it for free! http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/?locale=en-gb ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 10:00:24 -0500 From: "KB Porter" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Where black is the colour and none is the number "Hey [Woody Guthrie] I'll write you a song! And still falls the rain. Rain rain rain. You CAN think up your own great lyrics, can't you... mister Jones?" HA HA! I believe Mister Jones is in the bar, and no one said he was involved with thieves cause they're blind, all blind... - ------------ "Bryan says: You think I can come up with nothing original? That there is no original thought whatsoever in my mind?" Didn't he say 'Every thought I've had don't mean a thing.'? - --------------- "So if Bryan wants to do covers Its what every one else is doing. If he doesn't have any orginials at least the guy needs to keep his name out front." I agree, Marlana. Or in the man's own words "got to keep on moving or I'll die". - ------------------- "Maybe BF's had problems with the lyric writing for the Roxy Album and Katie's suggested doing an album of covers?" Katie, Lucy, what's the difference? Maybe Mr. Ferry thought this one up on his own! (Teehehe) - ---------------------- "So bring it on - I've wished for this many times and I'm thrilled to be getting it. And who knows, perhaps Ferry intends 2007 to be 1973 all over again - two Roxy Music albums and a solo album as well!" Ferry's 'A hard rain's a gonna fall' is fabulous! And here's to 1973, in spirit only, don't want to live through Watergate again. And, Dylan's saving grace, for me IS his lyrics! No wonder why BF enjoys Zimsongs. (So glad 'lay lady lay' wasn't in your setlist, Steve.) - -------------------------- "*I have to stress that I am not 'in the know' about this or any other Ferry/Roxy speculation despite rumours to the contrary...." J, if it's on this list, it's all speculation. Is Avalon great or what?! - -------------------------------- "And Billie Holliday." Love her work, would probably appreciate Ferry doing an album with 'Strange Fruit'. And Rob, you're fine the way you are - don't go changing cos I love the company (misery loves...). - -------------------------------------- Damn it, Danny (damn dan the bogus man), you beat me to it - "I guessed U can change the name of the girls and the result doesn't change :-)" - --------------------------------------------- LONG LIVE BRYAN FERRY!!! Best wishes to all. KBP ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 17:42:44 +0100 From: "michiel" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Where black is the colour and none is the number Woah there! Rick Astley was never a Ferry and Ferry will never be Stock Aitkin and Waterman! The only thing that unites them is us mentioning them in one sentence, which has got to stop! - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 2:04 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Where black is the colour and none is the number > And who was Rick Astley if not a young Ferry for the 1980's...? > > J > > In a message dated 14/11/2006 12:53:46 GMT Standard Time, > mvsleen@hotmail.com writes: > > Just imagine: 'Ferry sings Mel&Kim'. > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 17:44:24 +0100 From: "michiel" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Where black is the colour and none is the number 'taint no big tinker :-) > > > Didn't he say 'Every thought I've had don't mean a thing.'? > --------------- > > "So if Bryan wants to do covers Its what every one else is doing. If he > doesn't have any > orginials at least the guy needs to keep his name out front." > > I agree, Marlana. Or in the man's own words "got to keep on moving or > I'll > die". > ------------------- > > "Maybe BF's had problems with the lyric writing for the Roxy Album and > Katie's suggested doing an album of covers?" > > Katie, Lucy, what's the difference? Maybe Mr. Ferry thought this one up > on > his own! (Teehehe) > ---------------------- > > "So bring it on - I've wished for this many times and I'm thrilled to be > getting it. And who knows, perhaps Ferry intends 2007 to be 1973 all over > again - two Roxy Music albums and a solo album as well!" > > Ferry's 'A hard rain's a gonna fall' is fabulous! And here's to 1973, in > spirit only, don't want to live through Watergate again. And, Dylan's > saving grace, for me IS his lyrics! No wonder why BF enjoys Zimsongs. > (So > glad 'lay lady lay' wasn't in your setlist, Steve.) > -------------------------- > > "*I have to stress that I am not 'in the know' about this or any other > Ferry/Roxy speculation despite rumours to the contrary...." > > J, if it's on this list, it's all speculation. Is Avalon great or what?! > -------------------------------- > > "And Billie Holliday." > > Love her work, would probably appreciate Ferry doing an album with > 'Strange > Fruit'. And Rob, you're fine the way you are - don't go changing cos I > love > the company (misery loves...). > -------------------------------------- > > Damn it, Danny (damn dan the bogus man), you beat me to it - "I guessed U > can change the name of the girls and the result doesn't change :-)" > --------------------------------------------- > > LONG LIVE BRYAN FERRY!!! > > Best wishes to all. KBP > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 20:14:06 -0000 From: "Guy Lawley" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Never gonna give you up Rob wrote: >Ah, thought you meant he was some sort of permanent feature doing something. What, like sweeping up? Guy - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org] On Behalf Of rob.whiteford@larcltd.co.uk Sent: 14 November 2006 14:16 To: 'Andrew Shearer'; avalon@smoe.org Subject: RE: [AVALON] Never gonna give you up Ah, thought you meant he was some sort of permanent feature doing something. Heaven Forbid. - -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Shearer [mailto:shearerandrew@hotmail.com] Sent: 14 November 2006 13:46 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: RE: [AVALON] Never gonna give you up I assumed he just went to see the concert, and had an invite backstage afterwards Andrew >From: >Reply-To: >To: "'Andrew Shearer'" , >Subject: RE: [AVALON] Never gonna give you up >Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 13:40:36 -0000 > >Do you know why Andrew? > >-----Original Message----- >From: Andrew Shearer [mailto:shearerandrew@hotmail.com] >Sent: 14 November 2006 13:25 >To: avalon@smoe.org >Subject: Re: [AVALON] Where black is the colour and none is the number > >Just a snipet - Mr Astley was back stage at the Mamouna concerts > > >___________________________________________________________________________ >To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Messenger has arrived. Click here to download it for free! http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/?locale=en-gb ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 22:00:11 +0100 From: "michiel" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Never gonna give you up Ah yes, that's how it all got started for him. The rest is history (and so is he). - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Guy Lawley" To: ; Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 9:14 PM Subject: RE: [AVALON] Never gonna give you up > Rob wrote: > >>Ah, thought you meant he was some sort of permanent feature doing > something. > > What, like sweeping up? > > Guy > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org] On Behalf Of > rob.whiteford@larcltd.co.uk > Sent: 14 November 2006 14:16 > To: 'Andrew Shearer'; avalon@smoe.org > Subject: RE: [AVALON] Never gonna give you up > > Ah, thought you meant he was some sort of permanent feature doing > something. > > Heaven Forbid. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Andrew Shearer [mailto:shearerandrew@hotmail.com] > Sent: 14 November 2006 13:46 > To: avalon@smoe.org > Subject: RE: [AVALON] Never gonna give you up > > I assumed he just went to see the concert, and had an invite backstage > afterwards > > Andrew > > >>From: >>Reply-To: >>To: "'Andrew Shearer'" , >>Subject: RE: [AVALON] Never gonna give you up >>Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 13:40:36 -0000 >> >>Do you know why Andrew? >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Andrew Shearer [mailto:shearerandrew@hotmail.com] >>Sent: 14 November 2006 13:25 >>To: avalon@smoe.org >>Subject: Re: [AVALON] Where black is the colour and none is the number >> >>Just a snipet - Mr Astley was back stage at the Mamouna concerts >> >> >>___________________________________________________________________________ >>To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon >> > > _________________________________________________________________ > Windows Live Messenger has arrived. Click here to download it for free! > http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/?locale=en-gb > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 22:21:28 -0000 From: Subject: RE: [AVALON] Never gonna give you up Cleaning the bogs IMMEDIATELY before and after Ferry used them. As well as sweeping up. Rick briefly reappeared with long hair at one stage. But he was still mince. Cheers Rob - -----Original Message----- From: Guy Lawley [mailto:aove97@dsl.pipex.com] Sent: 14 November 2006 20:14 To: rob.whiteford@larcltd.co.uk; avalon@smoe.org Subject: RE: [AVALON] Never gonna give you up Rob wrote: >Ah, thought you meant he was some sort of permanent feature doing something. What, like sweeping up? Guy ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:24:17 -0600 From: "Rod LeCloux" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Where black is the colour and none is the number What's interesting about all this latest news is that we can all come up with our own theories as to why the Dylan album, why the tour but in the end it all comes down to writers block. Rod >From: KWil632057@aol.com >To: avalon@smoe.org >Subject: Re: [AVALON] Where black is the colour and none is the number >Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 05:57:06 EST > >Best solo Ferry tour EVER.* > >J > >*and better than one or two Roxy tours for that matter!!! > > > > >In a message dated 14/11/2006 07:40:20 GMT Standard Time, DEAGLERR@aol.com >writes: > >In a message dated 11/13/06 1:45:22 PM, rob.whiteford@larcltd.co.uk >writes: > > It doesn't do to prejudge these things as the As Time Goes By" triumph > > proved. > > >Triumph? >Not to these ears. >With his previous covers albums BF took the material and made it his own. >(with mixed results) >The only song that fits that bill on ATGB is I'm In The Mood For Love. >(maybe because Manzanara played on it) >The rest good, but traditional arrangements, could be by almost anybody. > >Regards R Deagle > > >___________________________________________________________________________ >To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > _________________________________________________________________ Try Search Survival Kits: Fix up your home and better handle your cash with Live Search! http://imagine-windowslive.com/search/kits/default.aspx?kit=improve&locale=en-US&source=hmtagline ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 22:34:54 -0000 From: Subject: RE: [AVALON] Where black is the colour and none is the number Yes but hopefully not musical block - some of his covers have great musical tracks and he just uses others lyrics. One may unblock the other If total block why are Leo Abrahams and Jake Shears claiming he's written great songs with them? Cheers rob - -----Original Message----- From: Rod LeCloux [mailto:andromeda_801@hotmail.com] Sent: 14 November 2006 22:24 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: Re: [AVALON] Where black is the colour and none is the number What's interesting about all this latest news is that we can all come up with our own theories as to why the Dylan album, why the tour but in the end it all comes down to writers block. Rod ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 23:39:10 +0100 From: "michiel" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Never gonna sweep it up He should never have appeared at any stage. > Rick briefly reappeared with long hair at one stage. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Guy Lawley [mailto:aove97@dsl.pipex.com] > Sent: 14 November 2006 20:14 > To: rob.whiteford@larcltd.co.uk; avalon@smoe.org > Subject: RE: [AVALON] Never gonna give you up > > Rob wrote: > >>Ah, thought you meant he was some sort of permanent feature doing > something. > > What, like sweeping up? > > Guy > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 17:53:54 EST From: KWil632057@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Where black is the colour and none is the number In a message dated 14/11/2006 22:43:52 GMT Standard Time, rob.whiteford@larcltd.co.uk writes: If total block why are Leo Abrahams and Jake Shears claiming he's written great songs with them? It's lyrical block rather than musical block. J ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:52:59 -0600 From: "Rod LeCloux" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Where black is the colour and none is the number >From: d none is the number >Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 22:34:54 -0000 > >If total block why are Leo Abrahams and Jake Shears claiming he's written >great songs with them? because they don't write and it's a good idea to suck up to the boss. I see quotes like this all the time from studio musicians looking for more work. Rod _________________________________________________________________ Get today's hot entertainment gossip http://movies.msn.com/movies/hotgossip?icid=T002MSN03A07001 ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 23:07:12 -0000 From: Subject: RE: [AVALON] Where black is the colour and none is the number Exactly, theres no problem with the music and if he needs to use others lyrics then not many better than Dylan. I'd like to think he can still produce some good lyrics if backed right into a corner, like " I thought" and to a lesser extent "Cruel". - -----Original Message----- From: KWil632057@aol.com [mailto:KWil632057@aol.com] Sent: 14 November 2006 22:54 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: Re: [AVALON] Where black is the colour and none is the number In a message dated 14/11/2006 22:43:52 GMT Standard Time, rob.whiteford@larcltd.co.uk writes: If total block why are Leo Abrahams and Jake Shears claiming he's written great songs with them? It's lyrical block rather than musical block. J ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 00:40:33 +0100 From: "michiel" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Where black is the colour and none is the number I don't think his lyrics are that important. I really like most of them, but I don't pay attention to them when listening to his music. They're often like collages of tasteful images, impressionist, pop art, romantic. But he could just as well mumble "Hulah Kulah Voodoo Mamouna Zamba Limbo". BTW Bryan, you could of course use more Shakespeare sonnets as lyrics for your new songs. - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 12:07 AM Subject: RE: [AVALON] Where black is the colour and none is the number > Exactly, theres no problem with the music and if he needs to use others > lyrics then not many better than Dylan. > > I'd like to think he can still produce some good lyrics if backed right > into > a corner, like " I thought" and to a lesser extent "Cruel". > > -----Original Message----- > From: KWil632057@aol.com [mailto:KWil632057@aol.com] > Sent: 14 November 2006 22:54 > To: avalon@smoe.org > Subject: Re: [AVALON] Where black is the colour and none is the number > > In a message dated 14/11/2006 22:43:52 GMT Standard Time, > rob.whiteford@larcltd.co.uk writes: > > If total block why are Leo Abrahams and Jake Shears claiming he's written > great songs with them? > > > > > It's lyrical block rather than musical block. > > J > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 23:50:57 -0000 From: Subject: RE: [AVALON] Where black is the colour and none is the number Yes, they aren't important anymore. Although when you hear a song like I thought with such beautiful imagery (and there are others like Your Painted Smile)it makes you think he CAN do it. But the days of Do the Strand and the the underrated Manifesto lyric are long gone it would appear Good Shakespeare idea. The Quill of it All. - -----Original Message----- From: michiel [mailto:mvsleen@hotmail.com] Sent: 14 November 2006 23:38 To: rob.whiteford@larcltd.co.uk Subject: Re: [AVALON] Where black is the colour and none is the number I don't think his lyrics are that important. I really like most of them, but I don't pay attention to them when listening to his music. They're often like collages of tasteful images, impressionist, pop art, romantic. But he could just as well mumble "Hulah Kulah Voodoo Mamouna Zamba Limbo". BTW Bryan, you could of course use more Shakespeare sonnets as lyrics for his new songs. ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V11 #263 ***************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest