From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V11 #211 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Monday, September 18 2006 Volume 11 : Number 211 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [AVALON] Fantasy Compilation... [KWil632057@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] Fantasy Compilation... ["michiel" ] Re: [AVALON] Fantasy Compilation... [KWil632057@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] Fantasy Compilation... ["michiel" ] FW: [AVALON] Fantasy Compilation... ["Bryan" ] Re: [AVALON] Fantasy Compilation... ["michiel" ] RE: [AVALON] Fantasy Compilation... ["Martin Stockman" ] Re: [AVALON]M&S/other junk ["michiel" ] To leave the list, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon-digest ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 04:42:37 EDT From: KWil632057@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Fantasy Compilation... There is a new 2cd compilation of the best of Grace Jones in the shops. The material on it was chosen by the fans and combines obvious hits with rare b sides, remixes, live versions and alternate takes etc. It also has a wonderfully detailed booklet with rare photos and notes. I notice that Slave To The Rhythm is not included (Grace Jones' Jealous Guy perhaps?) So what would you include if asked to contribute suggestions to a Ferry/Roxy compilation? J ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 11:02:01 +0200 From: "michiel" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Fantasy Compilation... I'd say there were more than enough compilation records around to choose from. The last thing we need is another one. - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 10:42 AM Subject: [AVALON] Fantasy Compilation... > There is a new 2cd compilation of the best of Grace Jones in the shops. > The > material on it was chosen by the fans and combines obvious hits with rare > b > sides, remixes, live versions and alternate takes etc. It also has a > wonderfully detailed booklet with rare photos and notes. I notice that > Slave To The > Rhythm is not included (Grace Jones' Jealous Guy perhaps?) > > So what would you include if asked to contribute suggestions to a > Ferry/Roxy > compilation? > > > J > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 05:09:24 EDT From: KWil632057@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Fantasy Compilation... Yes, but the point is that the compilations that have been released are all the obvious material and all practically the same cd. There must be rarities and things from outside the box that paint an alternate and possibly more interesting history of the band than what currently exists.... For example I would include the extraordinary live version of 'If There Is Something' from Viva. J In a message dated 18/09/2006 10:02:07 GMT Standard Time, mvsleen@hotmail.com writes: I'd say there were more than enough compilation records around to choose from. The last thing we need is another one. ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 11:51:48 +0200 From: "michiel" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Fantasy Compilation... In that case, to show what Roxy/Ferry are capable of I'd include the album versions of Psalm, but also End of the line, Both ends burning, She sells... Apparently the album Siren would do for me :-) ----- Original Message ----- From: KWil632057@aol.com To: mvsleen@hotmail.com ; avalon@smoe.org Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 11:09 AM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Fantasy Compilation... Yes, but the point is that the compilations that have been released are all the obvious material and all practically the same cd. There must be rarities and things from outside the box that paint an alternate and possibly more interesting history of the band than what currently exists.... For example I would include the extraordinary live version of 'If There Is Something' from Viva. J In a message dated 18/09/2006 10:02:07 GMT Standard Time, mvsleen@hotmail.com writes: I'd say there were more than enough compilation records around to choose from. The last thing we need is another one. ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 11:45:58 +0100 From: "Bryan" Subject: FW: [AVALON] Fantasy Compilation... The Bob (Medley) Beauty Queen Strictly Confidential Grey Lagoons Psalm Sunset Casanova Prairie Rose End Of The Line Still Falls The Rain No Strange Delight India Tara Bryan - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org]On Behalf Of michiel Sent: 18 September 2006 10:52 To: KWil632057@aol.com; avalon@smoe.org Subject: Re: [AVALON] Fantasy Compilation... In that case, to show what Roxy/Ferry are capable of I'd include the album versions of Psalm, but also End of the line, Both ends burning, She sells... Apparently the album Siren would do for me :-) ----- Original Message ----- From: KWil632057@aol.com To: mvsleen@hotmail.com ; avalon@smoe.org Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 11:09 AM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Fantasy Compilation... Yes, but the point is that the compilations that have been released are all the obvious material and all practically the same cd. There must be rarities and things from outside the box that paint an alternate and possibly more interesting history of the band than what currently exists.... For example I would include the extraordinary live version of 'If There Is Something' from Viva. J In a message dated 18/09/2006 10:02:07 GMT Standard Time, mvsleen@hotmail.com writes: I'd say there were more than enough compilation records around to choose from. The last thing we need is another one. ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 13:01:44 +0200 From: "michiel" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Fantasy Compilation... I also would have included Prairie Rose, but I didn't want to dominate the compilation ;-) - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bryan" To: "Avalon" Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 12:45 PM Subject: FW: [AVALON] Fantasy Compilation... > The Bob (Medley) > Beauty Queen > Strictly Confidential > Grey Lagoons > Psalm > Sunset > Casanova > Prairie Rose > End Of The Line > Still Falls The Rain > No Strange Delight > India > Tara > > Bryan > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org]On Behalf Of > michiel > Sent: 18 September 2006 10:52 > To: KWil632057@aol.com; avalon@smoe.org > Subject: Re: [AVALON] Fantasy Compilation... > > > In that case, to show what Roxy/Ferry are capable of I'd include the album > versions of Psalm, but also End of the line, Both ends burning, She > sells... > Apparently the album Siren would do for me :-) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: KWil632057@aol.com > To: mvsleen@hotmail.com ; avalon@smoe.org > Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 11:09 AM > Subject: Re: [AVALON] Fantasy Compilation... > > > > > Yes, but the point is that the compilations that have been released are > all > the obvious material and all > practically the same cd. > There must be rarities and things from outside the box that paint an > alternate and possibly more interesting > history of the band than what currently exists.... > > For example I would include the extraordinary live version of 'If There > Is > Something' from Viva. > > J > > > > > > In a message dated 18/09/2006 10:02:07 GMT Standard Time, > mvsleen@hotmail.com writes: > I'd say there were more than enough compilation records around to > choose > from. The last thing we need is another one. > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 12:15:25 +0100 From: "Martin Stockman" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Fantasy Compilation... My Compilation "Castaway As Strangers Are" 1. This Island Earth 2. Lover 3. Taxi 4. Alpaville 5. Where Or When 6. Just Like You 7. Windswept 8. River Of Salt 9. Your Painted Smile 10. Always Unknowing 11. For Your Pleasure 12. I Thought ..so I close my book, and sighing take another look, and sure enough I'm quite alone ... Still, there's no sound, so I spin-a-disc around and round, and slide the needle in the groove.... pip pip Martino - -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.4/449 - Release Date: 9/15/2006 ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 13:25:17 +0200 (CEST) From: robert@rwhiteford.freeserve.co.uk Subject: Re: [AVALON]M&S/other junk I don't. I think his management and marketing on occasions has been poor. Given the number of compilations that we've seen he's hardly above cashing in when it suits....so lets see him do that with some decent new material for a change Message Received: Sep 17 2006, 10:20 PM > From: KWil632057@aol.com > To: avalon@smoe.org > Cc: > I prefer the fact that Ferry isn't part of a slick marketing machine that > bores people to death with meeja suffocation before anybody gets the chance to > hear the music. > > J > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 13:27:42 +0200 (CEST) From: robert@rwhiteford.freeserve.co.uk Subject: RE: [AVALON] Re: Jerry rehabilitated Jerry Hall, "You can;t regret things but I must say he has aged beautifully" > Message Received: Sep 18 2006, 07:55 AM > From: "michiel" > To: avalon@smoe.org > Cc: > Subject: [AVALON] Re: Jerry rehabilitated > > I've finally read Jerry Hall's Tall Tales and have to admit she sounds very > sympatyhetic. Regrettably, now I think the cool ruler is a bit of a stiff. > > I believe I read somewhere that Bryan Ferry shouted to Mick Jagger: > "Not the royal Daulton with the perrywinkles!" > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 07:26:57 EDT From: KWil632057@aol.com Subject: Re: FW: [AVALON] Fantasy Compilation... Nice choices! I would add: Just Like You The Numberer She Sells The Space Between South Downs (right way round version!) Your Application Has Failed Angel Eyes (Razormaid version) Same Old Scene (remix) If There is Something (Live Viva) Always Unknowing Lover J In a message dated 18/09/2006 11:48:13 GMT Standard Time, bryansr@btopenworld.com writes: The Bob (Medley) Beauty Queen Strictly Confidential Grey Lagoons Psalm Sunset Casanova Prairie Rose End Of The Line Still Falls The Rain No Strange Delight India Tara Bryan ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 07:51:48 EDT From: KWil632057@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON]M&S/other junk In a message dated 18/09/2006 12:25:23 GMT Standard Time, robert@rwhiteford.freeserve.co.uk writes: I don't. I think his management and marketing on occasions has been poor. Given the number of compilations that we've seen he's hardly above cashing in when it suits....so lets see him do that with some decent new material for a change I'm sorry but Bryan Ferry owes you nothing. Zilch, zero, diddly squat. I've no idea what you do for a living but can you imagine BF being critical of what you are doing? Yes, you've bought the albums, seen the tours, etc. etc but he doesn't owe you, me or any of us new material. When it comes - great! Look forward to hearing it. Yes, there's a lot of compilations but are you a prisoner of your own record collection? Must you buy each one or can you just ignore them? Personally I think they got it right with Streetlife (album not the song) but if they want to release the back catalogue again and again that is totally up to them. To be honest, he has made his contribution with a marvellous legacy of music - - largely unsung (if you'll pardon the pun) in terms of recognition. There will be more. Whining about crap management, failure to capitalise on an M&S campaign etc. won't speed things up. J n/p Hot Chip ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 07:55:12 EDT From: KWil632057@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Fantasy Compilation... Nice line up Martino. Slightly disappointed you left off the crucial 'A Waste Land' lead in for 'Windswept' or is that a given? J In a message dated 18/09/2006 12:31:02 GMT Standard Time, martinstockman@btinternet.com writes: My Compilation "Castaway As Strangers Are" 1. This Island Earth 2. Lover 3. Taxi 4. Alpaville 5. Where Or When 6. Just Like You 7. Windswept 8. River Of Salt 9. Your Painted Smile 10. Always Unknowing 11. For Your Pleasure 12. I Thought ..so I close my book, and sighing take another look, and sure enough I'm quite alone ... Still, there's no sound, so I spin-a-disc around and round, and slide the needle in the groove.... pip pip Martino ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 08:19:41 -0400 From: "KB Porter" Subject: RE: [AVALON]Muddy Waters: Model. Actor. Singer. Or Musician? J prefers "the fact that Ferry isn't part of a slick marketing machine that bores people to death with meeja suffocation before anybody gets the chance to hear the music" Tee he he. All I can say is that Ferry's marketing machine bores people with an overwhelming dearth of silence that is sporadically ripped with hodge podged nonsense long after a few hundred or so fans have played unofficial releases to death! The question is, "How actively is Mr. Ferry involved with his 'marketing machine's war desk? Who is responsible for the lack of campaign coherence - hired guns or the cargo, himself? KBP ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 13:31:09 +0100 From: "Martin Stockman" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Fantasy Compilation... Yup, its a given. Can't see them rushing this compilation into the shops for Christmas but you never know. I think both you and Rob are right. Yes, BF owes us nothing. But, also yes, he has been poorly managed over the years. The M&S advertising gig isn't too cringe-worthy - I'm so glad he wasn't lured by a chav brand like DKNY, FCUK or Burberry. My take on his never-ending procrastinations on releasing material is that each song produced is of a time, reflects where his head is emotionally and musically at a specific period in time, and if he moves onto a new mindset or ....zeitgeist ... he's loathe to put out something "out of time." (Not very articulate today, apologies...) M - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org] On Behalf Of KWil632057@aol.com Sent: 18 September 2006 12:55 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: Re: [AVALON] Fantasy Compilation... Nice line up Martino. Slightly disappointed you left off the crucial 'A Waste Land' lead in for 'Windswept' or is that a given? J In a message dated 18/09/2006 12:31:02 GMT Standard Time, martinstockman@btinternet.com writes: My Compilation "Castaway As Strangers Are" 1. This Island Earth 2. Lover 3. Taxi 4. Alpaville 5. Where Or When 6. Just Like You 7. Windswept 8. River Of Salt 9. Your Painted Smile 10. Always Unknowing 11. For Your Pleasure 12. I Thought ..so I close my book, and sighing take another look, and sure enough I'm quite alone ... Still, there's no sound, so I spin-a-disc around and round, and slide the needle in the groove.... pip pip Martino ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon - -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.4/449 - Release Date: 9/15/2006 - -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.4/449 - Release Date: 9/15/2006 ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 08:54:03 EDT From: KWil632057@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON]Muddy Waters: Model. Actor. Singer. Or Musician? In a message dated 18/09/2006 13:42:49 GMT Standard Time, kbporter@verizon.net writes: Tee he he. All I can say is that Ferry's marketing machine bores people with an overwhelming dearth of silence that is sporadically ripped with hodge podged nonsense long after a few hundred or so fans have played unofficial releases to death! You can't blame the management if Ferry doesn't want to release material he is unhappy with, even if somebody has nicked it from the studio! Are you really bored by the silence of Ferry's marketing machine? May I suggest another interest while you wait - taking up Bridge maybe? The question is, "How actively is Mr. Ferry involved with his 'marketing machine's war desk? Who is responsible for the lack of campaign coherence - hired guns or the cargo, himself? There's only a problem here if they have something ready to release. At the moment they don't. J ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 15:18:09 +0100 From: "Cassidy, Chris J (RES)" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Fantasy Compilation... Martin said 18 Spetember at 13.31: >I'm so glad he wasn't lured by a chav brand like DKNY, FCUK or Burberry. Have you seen the lastest Vogue - Ferry and Son modelling for Burberry - thankfully not the caps. Regards Chris > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [SMTP:owner-avalon@smoe.org] On Behalf Of > Martin Stockman > Sent: 18 September 2006 13:31 > To: KWil632057@aol.com; avalon@smoe.org > Subject: RE: [AVALON] Fantasy Compilation... > > Yup, its a given. Can't see them rushing this compilation into the shops > for Christmas but you never know. > > I think both you and Rob are right. Yes, BF owes us nothing. But, also > yes, > he has been poorly managed over the years. The M&S advertising gig isn't > too > cringe-worthy - I'm so glad he wasn't lured by a chav brand like DKNY, > FCUK > or Burberry. My take on his never-ending procrastinations on releasing > material is that each song produced is of a time, reflects where his head > is > emotionally and musically at a specific period in time, and if he moves > onto > a new mindset or ....zeitgeist ... he's loathe to put out something "out > of > time." (Not very articulate today, apologies...) > > M > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org] On Behalf Of > KWil632057@aol.com > Sent: 18 September 2006 12:55 > To: avalon@smoe.org > Subject: Re: [AVALON] Fantasy Compilation... > > Nice line up Martino. > > Slightly disappointed you left off the crucial 'A Waste Land' lead in for > > 'Windswept' or is that a given? > > J > > > > In a message dated 18/09/2006 12:31:02 GMT Standard Time, > martinstockman@btinternet.com writes: > > My Compilation "Castaway As Strangers Are" > > 1. This Island Earth > 2. Lover > 3. Taxi > 4. Alpaville > 5. Where Or When > 6. Just Like You > 7. Windswept > 8. River Of Salt > 9. Your Painted Smile > 10. Always Unknowing > 11. For Your Pleasure > 12. I Thought > > ..so I close my book, and sighing take another look, and sure enough I'm > quite alone ... Still, there's no sound, so I spin-a-disc around and > round, > and slide the needle in the groove.... > > pip pip > Martino > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > _ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.4/449 - Release Date: 9/15/2006 > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.4/449 - Release Date: 9/15/2006 > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > _ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > Disclaimer This e-mail (including any attachments) is only for the person or organisation it is addressed to. If you are not the intended recipient you must let me know immediately and then delete this e-mail. If you use this e-mail without permission, or if you allow anyone else to see, copy or distribute the e-mail, or if you do, or don't do something because you have read this e-mail, you may be breaking the law. Liability cannot be accepted for any loss or damage arising from this e-mail (or any attachments) or from incompatible scripts or any virus transmitted. E-mails and attachments sent to or received from staff and elected Members may be monitored and read and the right is reserved to reject or return or delete any which are considered to be inappropriate or unsuitable. ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 09:29:39 -0400 From: "KB Porter" Subject: RE: [AVALON]Muddy Waters: Model. Actor. Singer. Or Musician? "May I suggest another interest while you wait - taking up Bridge maybe?" No need to be rude, Jonathan. Nor so defensive - unless, of course, you are part of the inept progress construed to be the boring machine. "There's only a problem here if they have something ready to release. At the moment they don't." Obviously. KBP ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 10:40:49 EDT From: KWil632057@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Fantasy Compilation... In a message dated 18/09/2006 15:38:38 GMT Standard Time, martinstockman@btinternet.com writes: You know, as I pressed SEND something was nagging me about that post of mine. Too much coffee whirling round my brain. There is no defence for Burberry. (Mind you, it used to be cool.....) High end Burberry is cool. Sadly the photos are ruddy terrible. Mind you, the clothes he's wearing aren't actually Burberry... J ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 15:38:12 +0100 From: "Martin Stockman" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Fantasy Compilation... You know, as I pressed SEND something was nagging me about that post of mine. Too much coffee whirling round my brain. There is no defence for Burberry. (Mind you, it used to be cool.....) - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Cassidy, Chris J (RES) Sent: 18 September 2006 15:18 To: 'owner-avalon@smoe.org'; 'Martin Stockman'; KWil632057@aol.com; avalon@smoe.org Subject: RE: [AVALON] Fantasy Compilation... Martin said 18 Spetember at 13.31: >I'm so glad he wasn't lured by a chav brand like DKNY, FCUK or Burberry. Have you seen the lastest Vogue - Ferry and Son modelling for Burberry - thankfully not the caps. Regards Chris > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [SMTP:owner-avalon@smoe.org] On Behalf Of > Martin Stockman > Sent: 18 September 2006 13:31 > To: KWil632057@aol.com; avalon@smoe.org > Subject: RE: [AVALON] Fantasy Compilation... > > Yup, its a given. Can't see them rushing this compilation into the shops > for Christmas but you never know. > > I think both you and Rob are right. Yes, BF owes us nothing. But, also > yes, > he has been poorly managed over the years. The M&S advertising gig isn't > too > cringe-worthy - I'm so glad he wasn't lured by a chav brand like DKNY, > FCUK > or Burberry. My take on his never-ending procrastinations on releasing > material is that each song produced is of a time, reflects where his head > is > emotionally and musically at a specific period in time, and if he moves > onto > a new mindset or ....zeitgeist ... he's loathe to put out something "out > of > time." (Not very articulate today, apologies...) > > M > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org] On Behalf Of > KWil632057@aol.com > Sent: 18 September 2006 12:55 > To: avalon@smoe.org > Subject: Re: [AVALON] Fantasy Compilation... > > Nice line up Martino. > > Slightly disappointed you left off the crucial 'A Waste Land' lead in for > > 'Windswept' or is that a given? > > J > > > > In a message dated 18/09/2006 12:31:02 GMT Standard Time, > martinstockman@btinternet.com writes: > > My Compilation "Castaway As Strangers Are" > > 1. This Island Earth > 2. Lover > 3. Taxi > 4. Alpaville > 5. Where Or When > 6. Just Like You > 7. Windswept > 8. River Of Salt > 9. Your Painted Smile > 10. Always Unknowing > 11. For Your Pleasure > 12. I Thought > > ..so I close my book, and sighing take another look, and sure enough I'm > quite alone ... Still, there's no sound, so I spin-a-disc around and > round, > and slide the needle in the groove.... > > pip pip > Martino > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > _ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.4/449 - Release Date: 9/15/2006 > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.4/449 - Release Date: 9/15/2006 > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > _ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > Disclaimer This e-mail (including any attachments) is only for the person or organisation it is addressed to. If you are not the intended recipient you must let me know immediately and then delete this e-mail. 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Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.4/449 - Release Date: 9/15/2006 ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 10:47:09 EDT From: KWil632057@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON]Muddy Waters: Model. Actor. Singer. Or Musician? In a message dated 18/09/2006 15:34:01 GMT Standard Time, kbporter@verizon .net writes: "May I suggest another interest while you wait - taking up Bridge maybe?" No need to be rude, Jonathan. Nor so defensive - unless, of course, you are part of the inept progress construed to be the boring machine. Not rude or defensive KB, merely pointing out that Bridge takes a while to learn (I'm one of the many who have tried and failed) and therefore once mastered there just might be some new material from Mr Ferry. It was a joke, intended to be humourous....oh never mind. And no, I have nothing to do with Ferry's marketing team, but to be honest I think they are doing something right. He gets plenty of exposure given his last top ten hit is but a distant memory! J ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 11:20:12 -0400 From: "KB Porter" Subject: FW: [AVALON]Muddy Waters: Model. Actor. Singer. Or Musician? - -----Original Message----- From: KB Porter [mailto:kbporter@verizon.net] Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 9:30 AM To: Avalon@smoe.org Subject: RE: [AVALON]Muddy Waters: Model. Actor. Singer. Or Musician? "May I suggest another interest while you wait - taking up Bridge maybe?" No need to be rude, Jonathan. Nor so defensive - unless, of course, you are part of the inept progress construed to be the boring machine. "There's only a problem here if they have something ready to release. At the moment they don't." Obviously. KBP ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 13:00:24 -0400 From: "KB Porter" Subject: RE: [AVALON]Muddy Waters: Model. Actor. Singer. Or Musician? "Not rude or defensive KB, merely pointing out that Bridge takes a while to learn (I'm one of the many who have tried and failed) and therefore once mastered there just might be some new material from Mr Ferry. It was a joke, intended to be humourous....oh never mind. " I've been playing bridge since 1985, therefore your 'joke' fell flat. A key point with marketing (as with 'joking') is "Know thy consumer". Good day. KBP ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 13:48:53 EDT From: KWil632057@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON]Muddy Waters: Model. Actor. Singer. Or Musician? In a message dated 18/09/2006 18:23:09 GMT Standard Time, kbporter@verizon.net writes: I've been playing bridge since 1985, therefore your 'joke' fell flat. A key point with marketing (as with 'joking') is "Know thy consumer". Good day. KBP Congrats on mastering Bridge all those years ago (no doubt to stem the boredom until Boys and Girls was released). I, of course, had no idea you are a Bridge player and therefore hang my head in the cold shame of a joke fallen brutally flat. I knew I should have plumped for 'Knitting.' Mind you, as anybody in the marketing trade will tell you it ain't so much 'Know thy Consumer' as 'Know who you WANT to be thy consumer.' Otherwise you are merely preaching to the converted. And here endeth today's lesson. The Pope ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 14:40:11 EDT From: KWil632057@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON]Muddy Waters: Can afford to be whatever he likes... In a message dated 18/09/2006 19:34:06 GMT Standard Time, martinstockman@btinternet.com writes: The Pope's had a few problems with jokes falling flat too recently Jonathon. Well he's no Jim Davidson that's for sure! J (with two a's) ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 19:33:34 +0100 From: "Martin Stockman" Subject: RE: [AVALON]Muddy Waters: Model. Actor. Singer. Or Musician? The Pope's had a few problems with jokes falling flat too recently Jonathon. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org] On Behalf Of KWil632057@aol.com Sent: 18 September 2006 18:49 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: Re: [AVALON]Muddy Waters: Model. Actor. Singer. Or Musician? In a message dated 18/09/2006 18:23:09 GMT Standard Time, kbporter@verizon.net writes: I've been playing bridge since 1985, therefore your 'joke' fell flat. A key point with marketing (as with 'joking') is "Know thy consumer". Good day. KBP Congrats on mastering Bridge all those years ago (no doubt to stem the boredom until Boys and Girls was released). I, of course, had no idea you are a Bridge player and therefore hang my head in the cold shame of a joke fallen brutally flat. I knew I should have plumped for 'Knitting.' Mind you, as anybody in the marketing trade will tell you it ain't so much 'Know thy Consumer' as 'Know who you WANT to be thy consumer.' Otherwise you are merely preaching to the converted. And here endeth today's lesson. The Pope ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon - -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.4/449 - Release Date: 9/15/2006 - -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.4/449 - Release Date: 9/15/2006 ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 20:42:25 +0200 (CEST) From: robert@rwhiteford.freeserve.co.uk Subject: Re: [AVALON]M&S/other junk Come on now. The original point you made was that you were glad Ferry didnt have a slick media machine. I am an accountant and my balance sheet shows he owes me nothing. I am a long term fan who cares about Ferrys career and I'm entitled to an opinion on a web forum. And my opinion remains that he'd be better off promoting new material than continually procrastinating to sometimes ridiculous degrees, and releasing compliation after compilation. It's just my opinion - I am not asking anyone to buy it, and of course Ferry doesnt have to read it or agree with it. Are you a part of his management by the way? Rob > Message Received: Sep 18 2006, 01:00 PM > From: KWil632057@aol.com > To: avalon@smoe.org > Cc: > Subject: Re: [AVALON]M&S/other junk > > In a message dated 18/09/2006 12:25:23 GMT Standard Time, > robert@rwhiteford.freeserve.co.uk writes: > > I don't. > I think his management and marketing on occasions has been poor. > > Given the number of compilations that we've seen he's hardly above cashing > in when it suits....so lets see him do that with some decent new material for > a change > > > > I'm sorry but Bryan Ferry owes you nothing. Zilch, zero, diddly squat. I've > no idea what you do for a living but can you imagine BF being critical of what > you are doing? > > Yes, you've bought the albums, seen the tours, etc. etc but he doesn't owe > you, me or any of us new material. When it comes - great! Look forward to > hearing it. Yes, there's a lot of compilations but are you a prisoner of your own > record collection? Must you buy each one or can you just ignore them? > Personally I think they got it right with Streetlife (album not the song) but if > they want to release the back catalogue again and again that is totally up to > them. > > To be honest, he has made his contribution with a marvellous legacy of music > - largely unsung (if you'll pardon the pun) in terms of recognition. There > will be more. Whining about crap management, failure to capitalise on an M&S > campaign etc. won't speed things up. > > > J > > n/p Hot Chip > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 20:05:49 -0000 From: "Andy Harrison" Subject: [AVALON] Blast from the past nice to see this one once again....... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpyoYRLz7U8&mode=related&search= ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 21:40:35 +0200 From: "michiel" Subject: Re: [AVALON]M&S/other junk Excellent question (that I was about to ask myself.) I've learned from past experience that those that care for Ferry, dare/care to now and then reproach him, and that those that immediately defend him often work for him (fat wink) - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 8:42 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON]M&S/other junk > Come on now. The original point you made was that you were glad Ferry > didnt have a slick media machine. > > I am an accountant and my balance sheet shows he owes me nothing. > I am a long term fan who cares about Ferrys career and I'm entitled to an > opinion on a web forum. > And my opinion remains that he'd be better off promoting new material than > continually procrastinating to sometimes ridiculous degrees, and releasing > compliation after compilation. > It's just my opinion - I am not asking anyone to buy it, and of course > Ferry doesnt have to read it or agree with it. > Are you a part of his management by the way? > Rob >> Message Received: Sep 18 2006, 01:00 PM >> From: KWil632057@aol.com >> To: avalon@smoe.org >> Cc: >> Subject: Re: [AVALON]M&S/other junk >> >> In a message dated 18/09/2006 12:25:23 GMT Standard Time, >> robert@rwhiteford.freeserve.co.uk writes: >> >> I don't. >> I think his management and marketing on occasions has been poor. >> >> Given the number of compilations that we've seen he's hardly above >> cashing >> in when it suits....so lets see him do that with some decent new material >> for >> a change >> >> >> >> I'm sorry but Bryan Ferry owes you nothing. Zilch, zero, diddly squat. >> I've >> no idea what you do for a living but can you imagine BF being critical of >> what >> you are doing? >> >> Yes, you've bought the albums, seen the tours, etc. etc but he doesn't >> owe >> you, me or any of us new material. When it comes - great! Look forward to >> hearing it. Yes, there's a lot of compilations but are you a prisoner of >> your own >> record collection? Must you buy each one or can you just ignore them? >> Personally I think they got it right with Streetlife (album not the song) >> but if >> they want to release the back catalogue again and again that is totally >> up to >> them. >> >> To be honest, he has made his contribution with a marvellous legacy of >> music >> - largely unsung (if you'll pardon the pun) in terms of recognition. >> There >> will be more. Whining about crap management, failure to capitalise on an >> M&S >> campaign etc. won't speed things up. >> >> >> J >> >> n/p Hot Chip >> >> >> ___________________________________________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V11 #211 ***************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest