From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V11 #175 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Friday, July 28 2006 Volume 11 : Number 175 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [AVALON] Chris Spedding [Bruce MacQueen ] [AVALON] Sex & RM ["Nigel Hollis" ] Re: [AVALON] Chris Spedding ["Ivor Canning" ] Re: [AVALON] Details of Eno in London on Friday [jocelynfiske@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] Details of Eno in London on Friday [KWil632057@aol.com] [AVALON] Eno's 77 Million Reasons Why [LeeSullivanart@aol.com] RE: [AVALON] Sex & RM ["Martin Stockman" ] Re: [AVALON] Sex & RM ["mvsleen" ] Re: [AVALON] Eno's 77 Million Reasons Why ["Ivor Canning" ] [AVALON] Sex & Drugs & Roxy rolls ["danyellow" ] [AVALON] Dock Rock- an afterthought [Mark ] To leave the list, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon-digest ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 05:43:33 -0400 From: Bruce MacQueen Subject: [AVALON] Chris Spedding This might be a dumb question, but where was Chris Spedding for these shows? Has he fallen out of favor or was he otherwise engaged? Best Regards, Bruce - -- "What's so funny 'bout peace, love & understanding?" Nick Lowe ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 12:21:25 +0100 From: "Nigel Hollis" Subject: [AVALON] Sex & RM Jocelyn wrote :- Well, seeing Roxy's just like sex really don't you think? Yes. After 34 years it all becomes a bit predictable. N. ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 12:28:24 +0100 From: "Ivor Canning" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Chris Spedding (Not so) New Bruce asked: > where was Chris Spedding for these shows? Chris who ? Oh, him - too busy off fighting Martians with 'Jeff Wayne's Musical Version Of War of The Franchises' (tm), I expect. Maybe he's been calling up a touch of the old heat ray at the recent gigs - 'Ulla !' indeed (yes, all right, so that was Jo Partridge not Spedding on the record ... oops, I've said too much ...) Regards, Ivor n.p. ELP 'Official Bootleg - Manticore Vaults Vol. 4' ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 08:00:36 -0400 From: jocelynfiske@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Details of Eno in London on Friday Surely the one to watch (listen to) is Richard Hamilton in the 12-3pm 29/07 slot. Hilarious that Pete Saville is booked as part of the graveyard shift, considering he doesn't usually get up until 10pm I guess it was impossible to persuade him to do anything earlier! - -----Original Message----- From: Chandla911@aol.com To: avalon@smoe.org; nervenet@topica.com Sent: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 2.19AM Subject: [AVALON] Details of Eno in London on Friday Leading artists, architects, philosophers, writers, filmmakers and economists debate critical issues of the day with particular focus on London. Friday 28 July 6-9pm Ken Adam / David Adjaye / Brian Eno / Zaha Hadid / Charles Jenks / Hanif Kureishi / Ken Loach / Tim ObToole / Yinka Shonibare 9pmb12am Michael Clark / Tony Elliott / David Greene and Sam Hardingham / Susan Hiller / Tim Newburn / Tom McCarthy Saturday 29 July 12-3am Ron Arad / Marcus du Sautoy / Pedro Ferreira / Mark Leckey / Roger Hiorns / Olivia Plender / Peter Saville / Richard Wentworth / Jane and Louise Wilson / Cerith Wyn Evans 3-6am Abake / Shumon Basar and Marcus Miessen / Anat Ben-David / Sophie Fiennes / Russell Haswell / Damien Hirst / Ant Genn 6-9am Zygmunt Bauman / Michael Bracewell and Linder / Ryan Gander / Gilbert and George / Iain Sinclair / Caruso St John 9am-12pm Eleanor Bron / Mark Cousins / Giles Deacon and Katie Grand / Patrick Keiller / Isaac Julien / Doreen Massey / Mary Midgley 12-3pm Peter Cook / Richard Hamilton / Gustav Metzger / Gautam Malkani / Chantal Mouffe 3pm b 6pm Tariq Ali / David Bailey / Hussein Chalayan / Doris Lessing / Milan Rai / Marina Warner Schedule of contributors may be subject to change (I'll say - isn't Peter Cook dead?) Pavilion Tickets The 24-hour interview marathon is made up of eight three-hour sessions. Each pavilion ticket allows access to the Pavilion for one three-hour session Lawn Tickets Access to the Pavilion lawn on Friday evening or all-day Saturday. Interviews will be relayed by audio outside the Pavilion ONLY LAWN TICKETS AVAILABLE FOR EARLY SLOT ON FRIDAY Lawn Tickets: B#5 (no re-admittance) Friday to Saturday Broadcast live by Resonance FM 104.4 Best wishes Richard Mills www.myspace.com/chandla911 ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 08:03:40 EDT From: KWil632057@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Details of Eno in London on Friday In a message dated 27/07/2006 13:02:29 GMT Daylight Time, jocelynfiske@aol.com writes: Surely the one to watch (listen to) is Richard Hamilton in the 12-3pm 29/07 slot. Especially as he is 206 and due to drop any time now... J ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 08:02:33 EDT From: LeeSullivanart@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Eno's 77 Million Reasons Why From Thursday's Independent paper. Possibly off-topic as it doesn't mention RM (for the first time ever?) :) Brian Eno: The life of Brian When you're an avante-garde polymath, why make one painting when you can produce 77 million? And Brian Eno still found time to speak to Charlotte Cripps Published: 25 July 2006 In the serenity of dense woodland, up a steep hill away from the noise of the Big Chill festival, in Herefordshire, the musician Brian Eno will exhibit his paintings for the first time in the UK. Part of the festival's night-time art trail, 77 Million Paintings is a constantly evolving projected triptych, generated from a computer software programme and set to ambient music. More than 300 hyper-colourful images, painted by Eno on to slides, in an eclectic range of artistic styles from classical to Pop, are randomly mixed in a process he calls "generative" art. "The ancient wooded environment of The Enchanted Garden provides a powerful and enigmatic backdrop," says Eno. "The triptych structure we are building for it is angular and architectural, and will stand in juxtaposition to not only the arboretum, but also the paintings it contains, which are usually pretty organic in nature. I think it will look as if it has just landed from another planet but has turned straight into the surrounding woodland to create a gentle piece, in keeping with the event. " The work's title reflects Eno's early calculations as to its possible permutations, although the actual number is much higher. It was shown at Tokyo's LaForet Museum and at the Milan Triennale this year, and is going on to the Venice Bienniale. It will also be released as a DVD-R, alongside a book consisting of Eno's thoughts on television as an artistic medium. The idea is to bring the Eno art experience in to the comfort of one's home. "I enjoy the idea that it is impossible, even for the artist, to see all the possibilities as there are so many of them, and they are evolving and growing in ways we can't control in spite of the fact it came from the same 'pack of seeds'," Eno says. "The element of surprise combined with its very slow movement makes it satisfying for me, both as a painting and an audio-visual piece. Until recently it wasn't possible for me to make a home version of these experiences. The difference is that the viewer has control over where the piece is placed, when it is viewed, what is happening around it, and how fast it runs. By making 77 Million available as software, the art comes to you." Eno began his first experiments with generative music on albums such as Discreet Music (1975) and Music For Airports (1978), before undertaking visual art work such as the projected pieces Natural Selections (1990) and Geological Cinema (1992). Eno graduated from Winchester School of Art, where he studied painting, in 1969. But he "started playing with lights at the same time as I started playing with sounds - in my mid-teens," he says. "By 1975 I was deep into making records, and hardly touched any of my lighting experiments until I moved to New York in 1978." One day, while Eno was in a studio, "the roadie from Foreigner" sold him some video equipment. " The bulky camera was about the size of a large shoebox," recalls Eno. " I'd never really thought much about video, and found most 'video art' completely unmemorable, but the prospect of actually owning a video camera was at that time quite exotic." In 2000, Eno's large-scale projected installation Sonic Boom was shown at the Hayward Gallery, but otherwise he has been largely ignored. "I am firmly in the 'musician' box here, and people [in the art world] are a little disturbed that I might wear two hats - it smacks of dilettantism, they think. The rest of Europe doesn't seem to have that compartmentalising mentality, but being a rock musician and a serious artist is regarded with some suspicion, especially in the UK. If you are a musician, you can't be taken seriously as a visual artist and vice versa. "It is an odd prejudice and very alien to me as I have always worked visually and musically. Neither my visual nor my musical directions would have taken the shape they did without each other. I make no distinction between the development of my visual and musical output as the two have been growing together, feeding and informing the other." Watching the piece's morphing images is hypnotic - and slow. "People ended up going round the gallery in Tokyo and Milan earlier this year several times to check," says Eno. "It slows you down to its own pace." It also creates an experiencebetween painting and music. " We are used to the idea of paintings being still and music moving. When I started making ambient music, I was trying to make a type of music that approached the condition of painting - that approached a sort of stillness," he says. "Now I am doing the obverse of that: trying to make paintings that behave a little like music... I don't have a clear picture of the finished piece (if indeed the piece ever ends), but sit back and see how they build and evolve." at The Big Chill, Eastnor Castle Deer Park, Herefordshire, 4-6 August (_ www.bigchill.net_ (http://www.bigchill.net/) ); the software for '77 Million Paintings' will be available later this summer on All Saints Records/Wordsalad Lee S ____________________________________________ Easily distracted? Displacement activity a problem? Me too. Going to: _www.leesullivan.co.uk_ (http://www.leesullivan.co.uk/) and _www.roxymagic.co.uk_ (http://www.roxymagic.com/) won't help either. ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 13:24:20 +0100 From: "Martin Stockman" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Sex & RM Perhaps Jocelyn should focus on the solo stuff? - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Nigel Hollis Sent: 27 July 2006 12:21 To: avalon digest Subject: [AVALON] Sex & RM Jocelyn wrote :- Well, seeing Roxy's just like sex really don't you think? Yes. After 34 years it all becomes a bit predictable. N. ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 14:30:47 +0200 From: "mvsleen" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Sex & RM And please: NO COVERS! - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nigel Hollis" To: "avalon digest" Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 1:21 PM Subject: [AVALON] Sex & RM > Jocelyn wrote :- > > Well, seeing Roxy's just like sex really don't you think? > > Yes. > > After 34 years it all becomes a bit predictable. > > N. > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 14:53:35 +0100 From: "Ivor Canning" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Eno's 77 Million Reasons Why Lee posits the answer: > Eno's 77 Million Reasons Why Perhaps the man just needs to work out what the original question was ? S8^) and quotes from the Indie: > "In 2000, Eno's large-scale projected installation Sonic Boom was shown at > the > Hayward Gallery, " Well, almost - there were around 20 or so contributors to the David Toop-curated Sonic Boom exhibition overall. St Eno's installation was actually called 'Civic Recovery Centre' or somesuch (and was disappointing compared to some of the other exhibitors, IMO). Regards, Ivor n.p. Adrian Belew 'Young Lions' ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 16:01:11 +0100 From: "Nigel Hollis" Subject: [AVALON] Cork/Dock Rock Mandy writes :- The general consensus of those there was that it was a great gig - as Reecey said, it was a joy to be there. I was quite amazed to find quite how much both Cork and Dock Rock were so enjoyable. I have not been to any Roxy / Ferry concert that was as good as these two were. The only comparable gig IMO was Glasgow five long years ago. The crowd at Cork were great, good humoured and soaking up the atmosphere. The band were up for it. The cock-ups were humorous, made them seem real and very human. Mr Ferry was in fine fettle and was clearly enjoying the adoration. It was the little things that made a difference. I was bantering away with a woman behind me who was commenting on the fact that Ferry had changed his shirt during Tara for a blue one when she in fact "prefered the white one". It was funny. There was this kind of naive innocence about Cork that I can`t explain but was fabulous. The only thing which let it down a bit was the fact that the sound system found Mr Mackay somewhat muted and never pronounced or emphasised. In contrast, the sound quality at Dock Rock was superb and Mackay`s honking and squeaking was up front and powerful which is a Roxy must when doing his solo stuff. He played magnificently and was improvising a lot on his usual set pieces. Definitely, I think man of the match, but then there was young Ollie of course - brilliantly jamming it up with Manzo etc. What a future he has, great to see this obvious young talent with Roxy and they now appear to be quite a family. Although never the same without TGPT of course, Andy Newmark was obviously more confident than Cork and gave a very creditable perfomance. Songwise I really don`t think The Bogus Man sounds good enough or fits in and sooner Ladytron than Prarie Rose so glad PR was dropped here. Unlike others, I do like the intro to SFE, I think it sets the mood perfectly for the song and shows off Mr Goods classical talents, a lovely touch touch that helps makes Roxy that extra special and not just any other rock band that can bash away at screaming guitars solos.If only though, if only for Grey Lagoons - although an "unknown" (I don`t think it needs to be) it would have all the makings of a great live track. Andy`s solo sax, Ferry`s harmonica solo and Manzo`s guitar riff would make it rock and for an audience to appreciate and for us to go wild to..... So, here was I thinking that I was going soft in the head by enjoying the "crowd pleasers" and hearing these yet so many times, but everyone that I spoke to afterwards seemed to be of the same opinion. Why could this be so when for the past years we have all been so pretty negative regarding the set-list? Perhaps it`s because we have seen Mr Ferry doing them solo and not Roxy and it drives us mad, perhaps we have all "given up" in our expectations, perhaps we decided we now like them because the crowd like them. I have no answer but enjoy I certainly did. So all in all two great gigs in such a short time.....two for the nostalgia bag! Regards to all, N BTW See you all for the remix cd promotional tour in 2007...:-)) ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 12:05:00 -0400 From: "krnchse" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Top ofthe Pops Cherry was always the one who got my schoolboy hormones racing, if my memory serves me well ! > Nice to see Pam's People dancing to Same Old Scene on the BBC news item of > the demise of TOTPs last night. ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 19:06:05 +0200 From: "danyellow" Subject: [AVALON] Sex & Drugs & Roxy rolls Indecent proposal I vote For Jocelyn being on the new roxy music album pictured as the 2oo6 cover girl no jugle like stranded no sea shores like siren something more urban like for your pleasure mhhhh jocelyn walkin' down the strand with bryan on the leash ok ok the weather it's too hot to handle here in italy right now and maybe i'm just goin' a little crazy :-)))))) so long kids the bogusbogus dan - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Stockman" > Perhaps Jocelyn should focus on the solo stuff? > > Jocelyn wrote :- > > Well, seeing Roxy's just like sex really don't you think? > > Yes. > > After 34 years it all becomes a bit predictable. > > N. ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 15:02:19 +0100 From: Mark Subject: [AVALON] Dock Rock- an afterthought Now you can shoot me down in flames for being an optimist if you like, but I noticed that the set-list included quite a lot of tracks from FYP (including 'Pyjamarama' from the same era). This, together with the fact that BF used an old fragment of discarded lyrics from In every dreamhome in San Simeon on Frantic, made me think that either he looks back on FYP as being particularly good or that he realises it's the sort of thing we'd like to hear. Either way, my optimism has led me to believe that maybe we might get something interesting on the new album. On the other hand, he did include 'Goodnight Irene' on Frantic which depressed me (it being the Bristol Rovers club song!) and other pointless covers..... Mactheaxe ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V11 #175 ***************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest