From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V10 #291 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Sunday, November 27 2005 Volume 10 : Number 291 Today's Subjects: ----------------- RE: [AVALON] Bad Trader Warning ["George Robertson" ] RE: [AVALON] Bad Trader Warning [Colleen Matan ] [AVALON] business / Bad Trader Warning / spezzo una lancia / sticking up for him ["danyellow" ] RE: [AVALON] Eno the Human Effects Pedal ["Guy Lawley" ] [AVALON] DVD [] To leave the list, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon-digest ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 11:49:34 -0000 From: "George Robertson" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Bad Trader Warning I'd like to back what Judy said. I too am awaiting material from Daniel. Regards George - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Judy Kaufman Sent: 25 November 2005 22:46 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: [AVALON] Bad Trader Warning Sorry to post this after such excellent exchanges of the past several days. I have made trades with others on this list and have never had problems until recently. In mid August, Roxy Music, Munich, Germany May 7, 1973, was offered to this list. I responded to Daniel Atterbom's offer and we agreed to a trade. I sent him 20+ discs at a cost of $11 postage. He acknowledged receiving the discs I sent and then left this list within two days. After a couple of weeks had passed, he gave me an explanation that he and his wife had been sick but that he had most of his part burned and would mail them in a couple of days. As of today I have gotten nothing in return. I wrote asking him to send just the Munich set. He has not replied to my e-mails since September 15. I would warn anyone considering a trade with Daniel to wait until you have gotten his end of the trade before sending him anything. I hope that anyone in contact with him will convey my sincere belief that he is a rat b*st*rd thief. Judy ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 08:30:35 -0500 From: Duarte Mendonca Subject: [AVALON] RE: Bad Trader Warning Unfortunately, I too have been "burned" or should I say not burned? by Mr Atterbom. Not once, but twice over the years. Stupidly enough, I fell for it a second time when he contacted me recently with an offer to trade. Fortunately it was not for 20 CDs.. Between an endless string of dying pets, relatives and constant ailments, Mr. Atterbom has no time to burn CDs for his trade partners. :( Mr. Atterbom, honor your commitments. It would be the dignified to do. And spare us the excuses. Traders beware. Regards, Daurte ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 12:17:34 -0500 From: Colleen Matan Subject: RE: [AVALON] Bad Trader Warning Folks, I understand firsthand from past experience on another list how frustrating it is to send your part of a trade and not to receive the items promised in return. Believe me--I know the amount of work it takes to put the things together and the time to bring it to the post office and wait and wait and wait and wait in line. However, from what Daniel posted to the list, I am under the impression that there is something very serious indeed happening in his life. If you remember, Daniel actally signed off the list due to events in his personal life (he shared this much with us directly). You will all also remember how much Daniel loved to particiapte on this list, so I had to assume that his voluntary removal from it was due to very dire circumstances indeed. I can't offer any explanations or excuses for his behavior, nor can I make him hold up his end of a trade. But I can ask that we all not trash him on the list since he is not here to defend himself. I think he has a long long history (at least from what I know) of actually making good on trades, and I have to think then that this is not his normal behavior, so I would respectfully ask that we not trash him in his absence, and maybe even spare a prayer or a kind thought for him as he deals with things in his life. Thanks for your consideration of this request. Colleen ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 18:48:11 +0100 From: "danyellow" Subject: [AVALON] business / Bad Trader Warning / spezzo una lancia / sticking up for him I'm with Colleen I got cds from Daniel in august so I guess that he is having some troubles right now or maybe he did but on the other hand I know how You can feel when you are waiting for cds that never arrive so keep cool is still the main rule ciao kiddos danitaly the bogeyman ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 19:23:23 -0000 From: "Guy Lawley" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Bad Trader Warning Can I echo Colleen's comment? Daniel "owes" me a couple of CDs, but I don't think anyone should be rushing to judgment on him at this time. Guy Lawley London England - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Colleen Matan Sent: 26 November 2005 17:18 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: RE: [AVALON] Bad Trader Warning Folks, I understand firsthand from past experience on another list how frustrating it is to send your part of a trade and not to receive the items promised in return. Believe me--I know the amount of work it takes to put the things together and the time to bring it to the post office and wait and wait and wait and wait in line. However, from what Daniel posted to the list, I am under the impression that there is something very serious indeed happening in his life. If you remember, Daniel actally signed off the list due to events in his personal life (he shared this much with us directly). You will all also remember how much Daniel loved to particiapte on this list, so I had to assume that his voluntary removal from it was due to very dire circumstances indeed. I can't offer any explanations or excuses for his behavior, nor can I make him hold up his end of a trade. But I can ask that we all not trash him on the list since he is not here to defend himself. I think he has a long long history (at least from what I know) of actually making good on trades, and I have to think then that this is not his normal behavior, so I would respectfully ask that we not trash him in his absence, and maybe even spare a prayer or a kind thought for him as he deals with things in his life. Thanks for your consideration of this request. Colleen ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 19:20:34 -0000 From: "Guy Lawley" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Eno the Human Effects Pedal This kind of close analysis by someone who knows their synths (and their King Crimson!) is just brilliant! Thanks very much. Guy Lawley London England - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Stephen Thrower Sent: 25 November 2005 11:48 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: [AVALON] Eno the Human Effects Pedal ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 16:24:51 -0600 From: MarlanaK@webtv.net (M.M.K.) Subject: [AVALON] Re: Bad Traders I too am backing what everyone else has said. Mine happened around Easter but involved me picking up a CD that only Starbucks carried. Promise of getting me a few of the trees he was doing. $17 plus another $12 for mailing to Sweden. We all have our personal problems to deal with but if you make a deal then my understanding is you stand by your word.--I'd still do the same again for anyone. Whatever is going on I hope that sometime in the future he can explain it. I truly wish him well. Always, Marlana ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 02:39:56 +0000 (GMT) From: k hayden Subject: [AVALON] More Bad Traders - --- Ok since where on a Bad Traders' topic - i dont really want to have to do this cause i feel bad, but ive been waiting on a trade since the middle of last year from Scott Matthews..... ive had a few emails here and there saying that he's had issues with the post and all that but i dont know..... but we did a succesful trade at first - i sent him off a bunch of Roxy cds and he made me some DVDs - then we decided on a second trade and that was it...i sent off about 15 cds and ive gotten nothing.......anyway im pleased to say that this was the first time ive been ripped off but it kind of shits you cause you do it in good faith......... anyway thats my rant.... Kristen ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 18:48:19 -0500 From: Subject: [AVALON] DVD On a lighter note, thanks to the generosity of our Mr. Kelly, I would like to re-offer the recent dvd back to 3 US members. (2 w/burners). Contact me off list. Now back to our regularly scheduled program. Martin ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V10 #291 ***************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest