From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V10 #286 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Tuesday, November 22 2005 Volume 10 : Number 286 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [AVALON] The Worst, and Best, of Bryan (Expanded) [Stephen Thrower ] RE: [AVALON] Maybe next next year ["Rob Whiteford" ] Re: [AVALON] Roxy on US TV [Colleen Matan ] Re: [AVALON] Roxy on US TV ["krnchse" ] Re: [AVALON] TV spot online with Roxy top banana [KWil632057@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] Roxy on US TV [Jane Fraser ] Re: [AVALON] Roxy on US TV [=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Kenneth_Nystr=F6m?= ] RE: [AVALON] Running Wild, Running Scared ["Andrew Shearer" ] RE: [AVALON] Running Wild, Running Scared [Joel Hurd Subject: [AVALON] The Worst, and Best, of Bryan (Expanded) Hi Lottie, I like it that someone rushes to defend even the lowliest of Roxy songs! (Only kidding). The fun of taking these positions is more 'the craic' than anything else, but here's a slightly less flippant assessment of why I don't like these pieces: Re. RUNNING WILD. I take your initial point about the lyric, but later he does sing: "Running wild Like we do" It's just not an image I can believe in, although it's fun to try! Just don't imagine Bryan Ferry 'running wild' if you're on a train or a bus or, worse still, at a funeral..... In his defence though, perhaps he was using a double meaning, as well... In British (and American?) vernacular, if you add 'Like you do' (or 'As you do') to something, it's a sort of flip, slightly camp means of expressing self-deprecation, and an awareness that you've used a clichi or overstated something. It only works if you say 'Like *you* do' though. 'Like *we* do' loses that flipness, I think. But my real problem with RUNNING WILD is the plodding pace and enervated instrumental arrangement. It sounds like there's an attempt to Dylanize the song, judging by an organ sound redolent of the STREET LEGAL album, but this isn't a patch on IS YOUR LOVE IN VAIN? or CHANGING OF THE GUARDS (lacks the kaleidoscopic succession of imagery for a start). Manzanera's solo at the end sounds uninspired, and the whole affair seems to limp away without a sparkle to finish the album. Ferry's aways been a master of the grand exit so I guess I was looking for something richer and more dramatic to end on. DANCE AWAY always sounds too sugary to me, but I suppose I dislike it more for its talismanic significance (its runaway commercial success being the point at which Ferry, I'm willing to bet, decided to head deep into conventional pop territory with Roxy). I agree the lyric has a few nice lines to recommend it. But I dislike nearly all of MANIFESTO actually, except for the title track, STRONGER THROUGH THE YEARS (sometimes) and SPIN ME ROUND (now there's a wonderful album closer). SONNET 18 just strikes me as disposable and ill-conceived. I don't buy the way Ferry is trying to fit the stanzas to his melody... he sounds slightly out of tune in places... the melody is hymn-like, a form I particularly dislike (particularly noticeable at the end of each verse)... and he hastens over certain phrases without enunciating them clearly. If I was a theatre director I'd be yelling 'Project, man, project!" In its defence, I imagine this was, by Ferry's standards, a rush job, bearing in mind its raison d'etre. But it made my toes curl when I first heard it. CAN'T LET GO just sounds like session-men 'getting it on' to me, and with a histrionic attempt at rocking out from Bryan over the top. The melody of the first lines of each verse dribble rather than race to their conclusion (listen to the vocal tune for the line "Well I rush out blazin' my pulse is racin' as the rain streams down my face"). The imagery is all fire and fury and raging passion and torrential despair, but the music sounds about as tempestuous as The Eagles or John Fogherty. Anyway, I'm sure we would agree on a lot more than we disagree! What are your favorites? All the best, Steve ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 08:36:55 -0500 From: KB Porter Subject: Re: [AVALON] The Worst, and Best, of Bryan "Some impressions, although probably late in the thread..." Then the following thoughts will seem ancient... The only 'truly terrible' Ferry tunes are from his early solo work. It's My Party, Sunshine... wonder why Lay Lady Lay wasn't done, er, included as a cover back then - given Mr. Ferry's love of Bob Dylan's work. Thereafter BF seems to make covers 'his own' usually via changed arrangement. However, Bryan Ferry's voice does save the day on nearly all of his recorded output! Roxy's success must be largely credited to Mr. Ferry's input - vocal intonation, lyric creation, visual imagery, and not in the least, his selling of the neophyte band to record producers (the rest is history, one may say). Lesson well learned from the early Ferry solo stinkers? Maybe not. Many Avalonians have expressed disappointment with Taxi en total, One Way Love, Amazing Grace, etc. For me, there is usually some appealing aspect present in those disparaged pieces. On whole, I believe Taxi is an excellent covers album, I like Amazing Grace (an acquired taste) and All Tomorrow's Parties! Mr. Ferry's Taxi is a vast improvement when compared with his early solo work. I've enjoyed 'hearing' his talent utilization growing stronger through the years - makes for an interesting artist. Further notes: Thank you, Martin, for 'jump-starting' the group. It has been many months since our last good conversation (I read the back-log of a month's posts this past Saturday to my delight that there Is a reason to become and stay current.). Guy, I'm very pleased that you have 'discovered' Mamouna. By the way, Friday, I discovered Manifesto, the album, if cranked really high is fantastic should the listener be in altered states (I wasn't in a chemically induced altered state, but I'm sure the effect would work with chemical influence as well). Ferry, prescriptions...Doctor don't be scared... The archives swirled through my mind, I'm certain there are many more comments I could make on last month's post - but for now, I bid you all a very merry Ferry Day. Best wishes. KBP ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 13:41:21 +0000 From: "Duncan Watkins" Subject: [AVALON] Maybe next next year Maybe 2007 then........ Weller set for top honour at Brits Paul Weller will receive an outstanding contribution award at next year's Brit Awards, it has been announced. Brit organisers said: "The outstanding contribution award is the highest honour the UK record industry can bestow. It is reserved for those whose influence, longevity and creativity put them in the very top ranks of UK artists." Regards, Duncan ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 13:53:48 -0000 From: "Rob Whiteford" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Maybe next next year Bryans political incorrectness don't do him any favours with these things. Whilst I like Paul Weller he was one of those who identified with left wing politics whereas Bryan I have always admired for keeping his views to himself. Except on fox hunting! - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Duncan Watkins Sent: 21 November 2005 13:41 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: [AVALON] Maybe next next year Maybe 2007 then........ Weller set for top honour at Brits Paul Weller will receive an outstanding contribution award at next year's Brit Awards, it has been announced. Brit organisers said: "The outstanding contribution award is the highest honour the UK record industry can bestow. It is reserved for those whose influence, longevity and creativity put them in the very top ranks of UK artists." Regards, Duncan ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 09:23:02 EST From: Chandla911@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] TV spot online with Roxy top banana Introduced as "One of the most influential people in music for the past 30 years". Brian Eno guested on Andrew Marr's Sunday AM TV show on BBC1 and was interviewed about his views on the war in Iraq (as well as promoting the concert next Sunday in London with Rachid Taha and Mick Jones of the Clash, plus Nitin Sawnhey and Imogen Heap). It also almost contains a moment of spontaneous and physical contact with an ex-girlfriend of 27 years back... The show can still be seen (and B Eno is in the last part of the show) for the next 6 days by visiting: _http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/sunday_am/4349718.stm_ (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/sunday_am/4349718.stm) # Also, this recent news item about Brian Eno can be read for up to date(ish) information. _http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/music/4449684.stm_ (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/music/4449684.stm) Best wishes Richard Mills n/p By This Time - Burt Bacharach ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 16:05:36 -0000 From: "Martin Stockman" Subject: [AVALON] Running Wild, Running Scared Lots of good comment here Stephen. I adore Running Wild and, guess what, Manzo's solo is my favourite in his esteemed canon. So, there's no accounting for taste! Check out the the moment at 4.43....oooh baby! And Andy's sax solo is lovely too. Great lyrics also. Ferry has always played in the zone between true romance and American 50s pop-art pastiche of love. Perhaps we all do. Keats v Kitsch, discuss. Running Wild like you do When all your dreams fall though I can always pretend that I'll fall in love again Runnning wild like you do If only dreams came true I could even pretend that I'll fall in love again I love the subtle variation in the verses. Incidentally I think this song references Orbison's Running Scared. Of course its not in any way about personal liberation but the terror of being alone. Best, M - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Stephen Thrower Sent: 21 November 2005 12:46 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: [AVALON] The Worst, and Best, of Bryan (Expanded) Hi Lottie, I like it that someone rushes to defend even the lowliest of Roxy songs! (Only kidding). The fun of taking these positions is more 'the craic' than anything else, but here's a slightly less flippant assessment of why I don't like these pieces: Re. RUNNING WILD. I take your initial point about the lyric, but later he does sing: "Running wild Like we do" It's just not an image I can believe in, although it's fun to try! Just don't imagine Bryan Ferry 'running wild' if you're on a train or a bus or, worse still, at a funeral..... In his defence though, perhaps he was using a double meaning, as well... In British (and American?) vernacular, if you add 'Like you do' (or 'As you do') to something, it's a sort of flip, slightly camp means of expressing self-deprecation, and an awareness that you've used a clichi or overstated something. It only works if you say 'Like *you* do' though. 'Like *we* do' loses that flipness, I think. But my real problem with RUNNING WILD is the plodding pace and enervated instrumental arrangement. It sounds like there's an attempt to Dylanize the song, judging by an organ sound redolent of the STREET LEGAL album, but this isn't a patch on IS YOUR LOVE IN VAIN? or CHANGING OF THE GUARDS (lacks the kaleidoscopic succession of imagery for a start). Manzanera's solo at the end sounds uninspired, and the whole affair seems to limp away without a sparkle to finish the album. Ferry's aways been a master of the grand exit so I guess I was looking for something richer and more dramatic to end on. DANCE AWAY always sounds too sugary to me, but I suppose I dislike it more for its talismanic significance (its runaway commercial success being the point at which Ferry, I'm willing to bet, decided to head deep into conventional pop territory with Roxy). I agree the lyric has a few nice lines to recommend it. But I dislike nearly all of MANIFESTO actually, except for the title track, STRONGER THROUGH THE YEARS (sometimes) and SPIN ME ROUND (now there's a wonderful album closer). SONNET 18 just strikes me as disposable and ill-conceived. I don't buy the way Ferry is trying to fit the stanzas to his melody... he sounds slightly out of tune in places... the melody is hymn-like, a form I particularly dislike (particularly noticeable at the end of each verse)... and he hastens over certain phrases without enunciating them clearly. If I was a theatre director I'd be yelling 'Project, man, project!" In its defence, I imagine this was, by Ferry's standards, a rush job, bearing in mind its raison d'etre. But it made my toes curl when I first heard it. CAN'T LET GO just sounds like session-men 'getting it on' to me, and with a histrionic attempt at rocking out from Bryan over the top. The melody of the first lines of each verse dribble rather than race to their conclusion (listen to the vocal tune for the line "Well I rush out blazin' my pulse is racin' as the rain streams down my face"). The imagery is all fire and fury and raging passion and torrential despair, but the music sounds about as tempestuous as The Eagles or John Fogherty. Anyway, I'm sure we would agree on a lot more than we disagree! What are your favorites? All the best, Steve ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 16:15:08 -0000 From: "Martin Stockman" Subject: RE: [AVALON] TV spot online with Roxy top banana I think I'd back Otis in a debating competition with Mick Jones. Isn't it time we devoted more space here to someone who contributed more than a year to the Roxy / Ferry story? Like Neil Hubbard or Guy Pratt. Or Lucy Wilkins. Or someone truly influential like the hairdresser at Smile? - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Chandla911@aol.com Sent: 21 November 2005 14:23 To: avalon-digest@smoe.org; nervenet@topica.com Subject: [AVALON] TV spot online with Roxy top banana Introduced as "One of the most influential people in music for the past 30 years". Brian Eno guested on Andrew Marr's Sunday AM TV show on BBC1 and was interviewed about his views on the war in Iraq (as well as promoting the concert next Sunday in London with Rachid Taha and Mick Jones of the Clash, plus Nitin Sawnhey and Imogen Heap). It also almost contains a moment of spontaneous and physical contact with an ex-girlfriend of 27 years back... The show can still be seen (and B Eno is in the last part of the show) for the next 6 days by visiting: _http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/sunday_am/4349718.stm_ (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/sunday_am/4349718.stm) # Also, this recent news item about Brian Eno can be read for up to date(ish) information. _http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/music/4449684.stm_ (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/music/4449684.stm) Best wishes Richard Mills n/p By This Time - Burt Bacharach ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 16:55:26 +0000 From: Jane Fraser Subject: [AVALON] Roxy on US TV My brother in law who lives in Houston tells me he watched the whole of the Roxy Music Isle of Wight set on one of his High Definition channels at the weekend. Can anyone provide more details? Jane ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 12:13:22 -0500 From: Colleen Matan Subject: Re: [AVALON] Roxy on US TV Quoting Jane Fraser : > My brother in law who lives in Houston tells me he watched the whole of > the Roxy Music Isle of Wight set on one of his High Definition channels > at the weekend. > > Can anyone provide more details? Who is his cable/satellite TV provider? That will help puzzle this out. Colleen ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 12:29:52 -0500 From: "krnchse" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Roxy on US TV HDTV has lifelike pictures and digital sound. The higher resolution produces clarity like you have never seen from a picture tube. Films retain their original width, enhancing your home theater experience. Hopefully our British friends will be able to join us soon in enjoying similar advances in technology.I spoke with my good friend Tony at the last Summit when I had some connection problems with my Cell Phone,and mentioned how amazed I am at how far behind you guys are with teknology.It's time you all enjoyed the fruits of Democracy, George sorry I couldn't resist............ - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jane Fraser" To: "'Avalon group'" Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 11:55 AM Subject: [AVALON] Roxy on US TV > My brother in law who lives in Houston tells me he watched the whole of > the Roxy Music Isle of Wight set on one of his High Definition channels > at the weekend. > > Can anyone provide more details? > > Jane > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 12:37:51 EST From: KWil632057@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] TV spot online with Roxy top banana Is this a call for an indepth discussion about Fonzi Thornton? J In a message dated 21/11/2005 16:28:15 GMT Standard Time, martinstockman@btinternet.com writes: I think I'd back Otis in a debating competition with Mick Jones. Isn't it time we devoted more space here to someone who contributed more than a year to the Roxy / Ferry story? Like Neil Hubbard or Guy Pratt. Or Lucy Wilkins. Or someone truly influential like the hairdresser at Smile? ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 17:47:40 +0000 From: Jane Fraser Subject: Re: [AVALON] Roxy on US TV On 21 Nov 2005, at 17:13, Colleen Matan wrote: > Who is his cable/satellite TV provider? Warner Cable I think. Jane ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 21:30:26 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Kenneth_Nystr=F6m?= Subject: Re: [AVALON] Roxy on US TV Well sorry for moving into this (private)conversation but it's true that Europe are a bit behind US in the HDTV field but there are some channels in Europe that is broadcasting HDTV already, but since we are speaking of TV the European PAL system was a lot better than the US NTSC system was (PAL=580 vertical lines NTSC=480 vertical lines) :-) :-) /Br Kenneth krnchse wrote: >HDTV has lifelike pictures and digital sound. The higher resolution produces >clarity like you have never seen from a picture tube. Films retain their >original width, enhancing your home theater experience. Hopefully our >British friends will be able to join us soon in enjoying similar advances in >technology.I spoke with my good friend Tony at the last Summit when I had >some connection problems with my Cell Phone,and mentioned how amazed I am >at how far behind you guys are with teknology.It's time you all enjoyed the >fruits of Democracy, > >George >sorry I couldn't resist............ > > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Jane Fraser" >To: "'Avalon group'" >Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 11:55 AM >Subject: [AVALON] Roxy on US TV > > > > >>My brother in law who lives in Houston tells me he watched the whole of >>the Roxy Music Isle of Wight set on one of his High Definition channels >>at the weekend. >> >>Can anyone provide more details? >> >>Jane >> >> >> >> >> >___________________________________________________________________________ > > >>To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon >> >> > > >___________________________________________________________________________ >To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 21:31:46 +0000 From: "Andrew Shearer" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Roxy on US TV And let's not even start about the content! (:-))))))) Andrew (Currently watching Crossroads on B/w) >From: Kenneth Nystrvm >To: krnchse >CC: avalon@smoe.org >Subject: Re: [AVALON] Roxy on US TV >Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 21:30:26 +0100 > >Well sorry for moving into this (private)conversation but it's true that >Europe are a bit behind >US in the HDTV field but there are some channels in Europe that is >broadcasting HDTV >already, >but since we are speaking of TV the European PAL system was a lot better >than the US NTSC >system was (PAL=580 vertical lines NTSC=480 vertical lines) :-) :-) > >/Br > >Kenneth > > >krnchse wrote: > >>HDTV has lifelike pictures and digital sound. The higher resolution >>produces >>clarity like you have never seen from a picture tube. Films retain their >>original width, enhancing your home theater experience. Hopefully our >>British friends will be able to join us soon in enjoying similar advances >>in >>technology.I spoke with my good friend Tony at the last Summit when I had >>some connection problems with my Cell Phone,and mentioned how amazed I am >>at how far behind you guys are with teknology.It's time you all enjoyed >>the >>fruits of Democracy, >> >>George >>sorry I couldn't resist............ >> >> >> >> >>----- Original Message ----- From: "Jane Fraser" >>To: "'Avalon group'" >>Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 11:55 AM >>Subject: [AVALON] Roxy on US TV >> >> >> >> >>>My brother in law who lives in Houston tells me he watched the whole of >>>the Roxy Music Isle of Wight set on one of his High Definition channels >>>at the weekend. >>> >>>Can anyone provide more details? >>> >>>Jane >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>___________________________________________________________________________ >> >> >>>To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon >>> >>> >> >> >>___________________________________________________________________________ >>To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > > >___________________________________________________________________________ >To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 21:46:45 +0000 From: "Andrew Shearer" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Running Wild, Running Scared Always disappointed that Running Wild wasn't in the recent tours. And can't understand why "My Only Love" seems to take precedence, even when talking about the box set, seems to be unpopular with Ferry or perhaps he perceives it as being unpopular. MOL eems such an inferior song, and obvious whereas RW is more subtle. Haven't had time to digest / read others' comments but RW seemed like a typical Ferry song, about yearning, lost love, dreams falling through, free spirits etc and nothing to do with him dancing around like a five year old. I guess there's no accounting for taste, I liked, or more accurately didn't dislike, OWL for heaven's sake. But only because it's just a bit of fun, a throwaway, possibly a cover from the Gasboard days? As ever Avalon always proves such a interesting / humbling experience when there's such a diversity of opinion. Regards, Andrew ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 23:21:05 -0000 From: "Rob Whiteford" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Running Wild, Running Scared I'm 38 and when I first got into Roxy it was because of Same Old Scene - which I think to this day is a brilliant track and proves that the new Roxy era wasn't all bad. Anyway I agree with you about RW v MOL but at the time Ferry was on Radio Clyde saying that he felt all albums had a track the others revolved around and that he felt for F&B that it was MOL. If he said this on Radio Clyde he probably said it on all his other interviews as well cos it's the same Spiel is is not ? What is nice is a few of us have been moved to post for the first time in ages, in some part due to the re-emergence (I am that I am from Out of Nowhere) of Mr Stockman. Cheers Rob PS I'm working in London 2 days a week now if any London based Avalonians fancy a swift drink.......................... - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Shearer Sent: 21 November 2005 21:47 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: RE: [AVALON] Running Wild, Running Scared Always disappointed that Running Wild wasn't in the recent tours. And can't understand why "My Only Love" seems to take precedence, even when talking about the box set, seems to be unpopular with Ferry or perhaps he perceives it as being unpopular. MOL eems such an inferior song, and obvious whereas RW is more subtle. Haven't had time to digest / read others' comments but RW seemed like a typical Ferry song, about yearning, lost love, dreams falling through, free spirits etc and nothing to do with him dancing around like a five year old. I guess there's no accounting for taste, I liked, or more accurately didn't dislike, OWL for heaven's sake. But only because it's just a bit of fun, a throwaway, possibly a cover from the Gasboard days? As ever Avalon always proves such a interesting / humbling experience when there's such a diversity of opinion. Regards, Andrew ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 00:23:19 +0000 (GMT) From: Chris Turner Subject: Re: [AVALON] Roxy on US TV The IOW gig was definitely recorded in HD, by a production company called CC-Lab, who have done a number of OBs for C4. Chris - --- Jane Fraser wrote: > My brother in law who lives in Houston tells me he watched the whole of > the Roxy Music Isle of Wight set on one of his High Definition channels > at the weekend. > > Can anyone provide more details? > > Jane ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 17:15:40 -0800 (PST) From: Joel Hurd Subject: RE: [AVALON] Running Wild, Running Scared > I'm 38 and when I first got into Roxy it was because of > Same Old Scene - > which I think to this day is a brilliant track and proves > that the new Roxy era wasn't all bad. > Absolutely seconded! - ---joel __________________________________ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 08:59:18 -0000 From: "Rob Whiteford" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Running Wild, Running Scared These lyrics seem to be a wordier version of the sort that eventually took us to "Avalon" - where "out of nowhere" repeats on different lines thru the lyric. And a stage further on the quite beautiful Your Painted Smile where the lyric is shorter but no less "clever". In fact F&B contained a few of these types of lyrics and was a sign of things to come. The title track another good example (no Manzanera or MacKay on this). I've never been able to analyse Ferrys lyrics that much, but I do admire they way in which he can make a song lyric mean so much by changing so little form verse to verse. Cheers Rob Martin quoted: Running Wild like you do When all your dreams fall though I can always pretend that I'll fall in love again Runnning wild like you do If only dreams came true I could even pretend that I'll fall in love again I love the subtle variation in the verses. ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V10 #286 ***************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest