From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V10 #282 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Friday, November 18 2005 Volume 10 : Number 282 Today's Subjects: ----------------- RE: [AVALON] The Perfect Opening Act ["Cassidy, Chris J (RES)" Subject: RE: [AVALON] The Perfect Opening Act Saw a young band in Birmingham recently, Duran Duran I think they were called. might be a good shout, lead singer thinks he's Ferry. :-) Regards Chris > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [SMTP:owner-avalon@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Andy > Harrison > Sent: 16 November 2005 21:42 > To: Rick Schwartz; avalon-digest@smoe.org > Subject: Re: [AVALON] The Perfect Opening Act > > Check them out where the hell have you been?? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Rick Schwartz" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 8:48 PM > Subject: [AVALON] The Perfect Opening Act > > > > I just heard the perfect opening act for the next Roxy tour. The > Scissors > > Sisters. It is good to hear a fresh sound. They seem to have the > attitude > > off the beginning Roxy with Eno Et., AL Check them out. > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > _ > > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > > > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.3/172 - Release Date: 15/11/05 > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > _ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > Disclaimer This e-mail (including any attachments) is only for the person or organisation it is addressed to. If you are not the intended recipient you must let me know immediately and then delete this e-mail. If you use this e-mail without permission, or if you allow anyone else to see, copy or distribute the e-mail, or if you do, or don't do something because you have read this e-mail, you may be breaking the law. Liability cannot be accepted for any loss or damage arising from this e-mail (or any attachments) or from incompatible scripts or any virus transmitted. E-mails and attachments sent to or received from staff and elected Members may be monitored and read and the right is reserved to reject or return or delete any which are considered to be inappropriate or unsuitable. ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 04:44:05 EST From: KWil632057@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] The Perfect Opening Act Not you as well! Does nobody read the NME anymore? J In a message dated 17/11/2005 09:42:59 GMT Standard Time, chris.cassidy@staffordshire.gov.uk writes: Saw a young band in Birmingham recently, Duran Duran I think they were called. might be a good shout, lead singer thinks he's Ferry. :-) Regards Chris ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 04:44:22 EST From: Chandla911@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] London live ad Following collaborations with the likes of Brian Eno, David Byrne and Laurie Anderson, contemporary and innovative bossa nova star Vinicius Cantuaria plays a headline show at the Jazz Cafe in London this Sunday (20th November) in support of his latest album, Silva. Best wishes Richard Mills n/p Justify My Love - Madonna ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 09:58:19 -0000 From: "Cassidy, Chris J (RES)" Subject: RE: [AVALON] The Curse of Brian / Worst track ever? Worst track(s) ever recorded - Pyjamara, Which Way to Turn, Name of the Game???!!! You cannot be serious :-) Pyjamara is a classic roxy single - awesome guitar, sax and drums - is there a finer opening and close in single mode? Which Way to Turn is a soothing and beautiful segment from his greatest (IMHO) solo work. Stick Mamouma on, light the fire and a few candles and open a nice bottle of red - awesome. The original book insert is also very beautiful (picked up an original in Marbella recently for 3 euros in a bargain bin). Name of the Game - fantastic vocal performance and lyrics - play at maximum volume! None of the three are top ten IMHO, but they're not bottom 10 either, IMHO. Regards Chris > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [SMTP:owner-avalon@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Rob > Whiteford > Sent: 16 November 2005 23:57 > To: 'Guy Lawley'; avalon@smoe.org > Subject: RE: [AVALON] The Curse of Brian / Worst track ever? > > Well its up against some serious competition for that award (Pyjamarama, > Which way to turn, Name of the Game,) so no not quite in my view, although > he had lost his way. > > I have a version of the CD single of this which has his name in its > correct > format! - take your point though - David Bowey?! > > ----Original Message----- > From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org] On Behalf Of > Guy > Lawley > Sent: 16 November 2005 22:40 > To: 'Rob Whiteford'; avalon@smoe.org > Subject: [AVALON] The Curse of Brian / Worst track ever? > > Hey Rob, I just got the German Dance With Life single in the mail today > (via > eBay) and on the disc itself the credit reads "Brian Ferry." Scandalous! > > Both disc and back of sleeve list the song as Dance With You as well. > > Not only that, but, having never heard this piece of drivel before, I am > moved to ask: is this Bernie Taupin song the single worst track Ferry has > ever recorded? > > Guy Lawley > London > SW6 2UQ > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > _ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > _ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > Disclaimer This e-mail (including any attachments) is only for the person or organisation it is addressed to. If you are not the intended recipient you must let me know immediately and then delete this e-mail. If you use this e-mail without permission, or if you allow anyone else to see, copy or distribute the e-mail, or if you do, or don't do something because you have read this e-mail, you may be breaking the law. Liability cannot be accepted for any loss or damage arising from this e-mail (or any attachments) or from incompatible scripts or any virus transmitted. E-mails and attachments sent to or received from staff and elected Members may be monitored and read and the right is reserved to reject or return or delete any which are considered to be inappropriate or unsuitable. ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 05:03:28 EST From: KWil632057@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] The Curse of Brian / Worst track ever? Eh? No tracks mentioned so far rise to the Biblical travesty of One Way Love. Awful on every single level and then some. It also has a title that seems a bit kinky although I'm not sure why. The second side of the Manifesto album features the worst concentrated area of Ferry/Roxy songs. More Westlife than West side. The video for Dance With Lice showcases Bryan dancing with what appears to be a 12 year old girl and he would have won the Gary Glitter award for most inappropriate dance partner had anyone actually seen the video in question. If you ever get the chance to see it, I guarantee you will need at least six showers afterwards before feeling even remotely comfortable. As for the song, It's not bad as MOR pap goes but it's not as good as Help Me which is equally poor but at least has a witty title that references the film that it features in. J n/p Madonna 'Name of the Game (demo)' In a message dated 17/11/2005 00:12:56 GMT Standard Time, robert@rwhiteford.freeserve.co.uk writes: Well its up against some serious competition for that award (Pyjamarama.... ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 05:33:29 -0500 From: Jocelynfiske@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] The Perfect Opening Act NME shows a forthcoming listing for Arcade Fire, Franz Ferdinand, Scissor Sisters and Goldfrapp sharing top billing and guess what? Support band is little known artists Roxy Music. Give them a listen. J Peel ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 07:34:42 EST From: KWil632057@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] The Perfect Opening Act I heard a rumour that Graham Simpson is no longer part of the line up...Say it isn't so! J In a message dated 17/11/2005 10:48:55 GMT Standard Time, Jocelynfiske@aol.com writes: NME shows a forthcoming listing for Arcade Fire, Franz Ferdinand, Scissor Sisters and Goldfrapp sharing top billing and guess what? Support band is little known artists Roxy Music. Give them a listen. J Peel ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 09:27:51 EST From: LottieStreeter2@cs.com Subject: [AVALON] "Dance With Life" Single Guy writes : Having never heard this piece of drivel before, I am moved to ask: is this Bernie Taupin song the single worst track Ferry has ever recorded? - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ - ------------------------------------- Guess you haven't heard 'It's My Party" or "You Are My Sunshine". And he butchers "Piece of My Heart".... I mean luvya Bryan but.... In the case of this song, the movie "Phenomenon" was actually pretty cool, and this was the original song written for it. Bernie Taupin is a first-class lyricist, Ferry a first-class musician and vocalist. It's not a bad song. It isn't as 'deep' as a typical Ferry ballad but in the context of the movie, it works. Lottie ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 14:37:41 -0000 From: "Martin Stockman" Subject: RE: [AVALON] The Curse of Brian / Worst track ever? Isn't is nice .. we're actually "talking" here ... not just trading. In such and large and diverse oeuvre I think that you can only list the really weak released songs on one hand. One Way Love strikes us as fairly embarrassing but I can't help thinking that the maestro himself enjoys its kitsch vibe, the way it references early US pop in the same way as, say, One Kiss on IYM. There was an interview on the BF site with him talking up One Way Love, I recall. Dance With Life is truly horrendous. Ghastly Phil Collins style production, mawkish sentiments. I'm not a fan of Triptych. Although I see it as a worthy experiment that went wrong. On the covers front I'm not happy with All Tomorrows Parties - Elvis Costello named it as the worst cover ever recorded - nor especially enamoured with September Song. Ferry said that he played the former to Lou Reed and it received his seal of approval. Manifesto and F&B are, for me, the weakest albums in the canon, yet its interesting how they sound a lot better upon a re-visit. However we'd have to put Rain Rain Rain in the worst bunch. Finally, and this isn't a dig at HRH Eno, I'd have to throw Wildcat Days into a dark room. That leaves us, what, nearing on 150 songs that are sublime. Pip pip M - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org] On Behalf Of KWil632057@aol.com Sent: 17 November 2005 10:03 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: Re: [AVALON] The Curse of Brian / Worst track ever? Eh? No tracks mentioned so far rise to the Biblical travesty of One Way Love. Awful on every single level and then some. It also has a title that seems a bit kinky although I'm not sure why. The second side of the Manifesto album features the worst concentrated area of Ferry/Roxy songs. More Westlife than West side. The video for Dance With Lice showcases Bryan dancing with what appears to be a 12 year old girl and he would have won the Gary Glitter award for most inappropriate dance partner had anyone actually seen the video in question. If you ever get the chance to see it, I guarantee you will need at least six showers afterwards before feeling even remotely comfortable. As for the song, It's not bad as MOR pap goes but it's not as good as Help Me which is equally poor but at least has a witty title that references the film that it features in. J n/p Madonna 'Name of the Game (demo)' In a message dated 17/11/2005 00:12:56 GMT Standard Time, robert@rwhiteford.freeserve.co.uk writes: Well its up against some serious competition for that award (Pyjamarama.... ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 09:48:47 -0500 From: Colleen Matan Subject: RE: [AVALON] The Curse of Brian / Worst track ever? Quoting Martin Stockman : > One Way Love strikes us as fairly embarrassing but I can't help thinking > that the maestro himself enjoys its kitsch vibe, the way it references early > US pop in the same way as, say, One Kiss on IYM. There was an interview on > the BF site with him talking up One Way Love, I recall. You know, I don't think "One Way Love" is that bad. On the other hand, I could nominate 78% of _Pastiche_, or whatever it's called, for bottom of the barrel status. I know, I know, there's no accounting for taste. Colleen ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 09:59:05 EST From: KWil632057@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] The Curse of Brian / Worst track ever? I'm just going to have to add: Godess of Love Four Letter Love (actually anything with Love in the title apart from...is the drug) True To Life (Which always sounds half arsed to me) In the Midshite Hour I Don't Want To All shockers. J n/p Bryan Ferry vs Scissor Sisters "Prarie Rose" In a message dated 17/11/2005 14:39:02 GMT Standard Time, martinstockman@btinternet.com writes: Isn't is nice .. we're actually "talking" here ... not just trading. In such and large and diverse oeuvre I think that you can only list the really weak released songs on one hand. One Way Love strikes us as fairly embarrassing but I can't help thinking that the maestro himself enjoys its kitsch vibe, the way it references early US pop in the same way as, say, One Kiss on IYM. There was an interview on the BF site with him talking up One Way Love, I recall. Dance With Life is truly horrendous. Ghastly Phil Collins style production, mawkish sentiments. I'm not a fan of Triptych. Although I see it as a worthy experiment that went wrong. On the covers front I'm not happy with All Tomorrows Parties - Elvis Costello named it as the worst cover ever recorded - nor especially enamoured with September Song. Ferry said that he played the former to Lou Reed and it received his seal of approval. Manifesto and F&B are, for me, the weakest albums in the canon, yet its interesting how they sound a lot better upon a re-visit. However we'd have to put Rain Rain Rain in the worst bunch. Finally, and this isn't a dig at HRH Eno, I'd have to throw Wildcat Days into a dark room. That leaves us, what, nearing on 150 songs that are sublime. Pip pip M ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 07:56:18 -0800 (PST) From: Johnny Reece Subject: Re: [AVALON] The Curse of Brian / Worst track ever? KWil632057@aol.com wrote: >>>I'm just going to have to add: True To Life (Which always sounds half arsed to me)>>> Ouch ! It's one of my Roxy faves. But as we're on the subject of 'worsts' etc, here's my worst 5, and then top 5, just to balance it all out... The nasties : Roxy : Cry Cry Cry, Always Unknowing, Eight Miles High, Hula Kula (sorry Manzo), Oh Yeah. Ferry : You Are My Sunshine, Four Letter Love, Fingerpoppin', Seven Deadly Sins, He'll Have To Go. Immaculate conceptions : Roxy : Sentimental Fool, Beauty Queen, Grey Lagoons, Just Like You, All I Want Is You. Ferry : 2HB (yes, I prefer the BF version !), Windswept, Boys And Girls, Love Me Madly Again, This Island Earth. Of course, all these lists will be very much out of date early next year when we hear the superb new Roxy Music album. Maybe. Reecey... . . . . - --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 11:04:35 -0500 From: Jocelynfiske@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] The Curse of Brian / Worst track ever? Cry Cry Cry. Why? Why? Why? ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 11:16:39 EST From: KWil632057@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] The Curse of Brian / Worst track ever? And I nearly forgot: Is Your Love stroganoff? J ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 08:41:20 -0800 (PST) From: Johnny Reece Subject: Re: [AVALON] The Curse of Brian / Worst track ever? KWil632057@aol.com wrote: >>>Is Your Love stroganoff? >>> I always have a chuckle when I hear about this song - as it reminds me of the interview BF did at the time, saying how 'good it was for him to work quickly, under pressure, doing a song to order for a movie' type thing. The cheeky little fibber ! It started life as 'Circles', an un-used Roxy Music song, I seem to recall. He raided the old dusty tapes and changed a few words... Reecey... . . . . ___________________________________________________________________________ - --------------------------------- Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 12:12:20 EST From: KWil632057@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] The Curse of Brian / Worst track ever? A bit like when Jonathan Ross complimented him on how young he looked on the Frantic sleeve photos and Bryan remarking that he made sure he used a good photographer. Nowt to do with the photos being 15 years old then! J In a message dated 17/11/2005 17:08:30 GMT Standard Time, reecey593@yahoo.co.uk writes: I always have a chuckle when I hear about this song - as it reminds me of the interview BF did at the time, saying how 'good it was for him to work quickly, under pressure, doing a song to order for a movie' type thing. The cheeky little fibber ! It started life as 'Circles', an un-used Roxy Music song, I seem to recall. He raided the old dusty tapes and changed a few words... Reecey... . ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 10:59:51 -0600 From: Susan Stekel Subject: Re: [AVALON] The Curse of Brian / Worst track ever? At 10:16 AM 11/17/2005, you wrote: >And I nearly forgot: > >Is Your Love stroganoff? > oooh -- see, now that and "True to Life" both rate highly with me. But there you go -- one person's pearl is another person's bit of oyster spit. But I'm intrigued about the history behind this song -- had never heard of that Roxy link before. Any other details, Reecey? From the style of it, I'd presume it was an "Avalon"-era song. And if Roxy had recorded it -- would the guitar solos have been distinctively different than what D. Gilmour contributed? Fun to ponder ... S. ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 13:22:45 EST From: DEAGLERR@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] The Curse of Brian / Worst track ever? Ah, Contention! I'm so glad to see nobody's chimed in to trash The Lambton Worm, My alltime fave. Regards, R Deagle ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 13:20:34 EST From: DEAGLERR@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] The Curse of Brian / Worst track ever? AH cont ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 10:25:38 -0800 From: helchat@earthlink.net Subject: Re: [AVALON] The Curse of Brian / Worst track ever? Nor I! I have never been able to stomach it personally, until the last few years. Is this from getting older? I have always been harassed by anyone I personally know because everyone else I know thinks it's "beautiful." Helene On Thursday, November 17, 2005, at 06:37 AM, Martin Stockman wrote: > I'm not a fan of Triptych. ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2005 17:42:57 EST From: Stevesiren@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] The Curse of Brian / Worst track ever? In a message dated 16/11/2005 22:44:05 GMT Standard Time, aove97@dsl.pipex.com writes: the single worst track Ferry has ever recorded? When we did the Best/Worst poll (2001?) the single version of "Angel Eyes" was comfortably the winner of the worst section....perhaps it's been forgiven now? Steve, not playing Mamouna ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V10 #282 ***************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest