From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V10 #159 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Monday, July 4 2005 Volume 10 : Number 159 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [AVALON] Bryan v Brian no contest! [Roxypiglet@aol.com] RE: [AVALON] Bryan v Brian no contest! ["Guy Lawley" ] [AVALON] Berlin G8 ["Mark Stephens" ] Re: [AVALON] Berlin G8 [Daniel Atterbom ] RE: [AVALON] Live 8 on BBC 1 ["Martin Stockman" ] [AVALON] Re: Live 8 [MarlanaK@webtv.net (M.M.K.)] [AVALON] Re: avalon-digest V10 #158 [Chandla911@aol.com] [AVALON] Watch Roxy at Live 8 ["Judy Kaufman" ] Re: [AVALON] Re: Live 8 [Joel Hurd ] To leave the list, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon-digest ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 04:13:06 EDT From: Roxypiglet@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Bryan v Brian no contest! The Berlin contribution to Live Aid G8 was very muddily compared to other countries The stage bland more than their fair share of muddle &tech probs compared to other concerts. The most embarrassing act has got to be Brian Wilson He was cringe factor 100% I felt for the rest of the musicians he forgot his lines missed his que a dysfunctional insincere smile sprung on his face when he remembered. His Incoherent speech on the cause would have been better left unsaid infact the band would have been much more enjoyable without him. He is an prime example of not knowing when sell by date is well & truly gone.( Unlike Pink Floyd in London who although I am not a fan I thought were impressive given their long years of absence.) . The audience in Berlin were less than lethargic most of the day apart from the odd moment but if it was not for a good cause I am sure Mr Wilson would have been booed off the stage. Roxy probably got as good a reception as most at least the show girls gave a bit of glamour to an otherwise bland stage. Can,t go on the march but god bless all those who do! ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 09:57:33 +0100 From: "Guy Lawley" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Bryan v Brian no contest! I'm pleased that someone has had the courage to speak their mind about the unfortunate spectacle that is the Great Brian Wilson Career Revival Show. Hopefully in the long run history will judge these stage shows and the grotesque (bogus?) "release"/remodel of Smile as they deserve (harshly!). Meanwhile the "No, really, the Emperor does have clothes!" campaign continues. Guy - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Roxypiglet@aol.com Sent: 03 July 2005 09:13 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: [AVALON] Bryan v Brian no contest! The Berlin contribution to Live Aid G8 was very muddily compared to other countries The stage bland more than their fair share of muddle &tech probs compared to other concerts. The most embarrassing act has got to be Brian Wilson He was cringe factor 100% I felt for the rest of the musicians he forgot his lines missed his que a dysfunctional insincere smile sprung on his face when he remembered. His Incoherent speech on the cause would have been better left unsaid infact the band would have been much more enjoyable without him. He is an prime example of not knowing when sell by date is well & truly gone.( Unlike Pink Floyd in London who although I am not a fan I thought were impressive given their long years of absence.) . The audience in Berlin were less than lethargic most of the day apart from the odd moment but if it was not for a good cause I am sure Mr Wilson would have been booed off the stage ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 11:21:50 +0200 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: RE: [AVALON] Bryan v Brian no contest! At 09.57 +0100 05-07-03, Guy Lawley wrote: >I'm pleased that someone has had the courage to speak their mind about the >unfortunate spectacle that is the Great Brian Wilson Career Revival Show. > >Hopefully in the long run history will judge these stage shows and the >grotesque (bogus?) "release"/remodel of Smile as they deserve (harshly!). > >Meanwhile the "No, really, the Emperor does have clothes!" campaign >continues. I think it's nice that Mr Wilson, unless say Dr Semmelweiss or Franz Kafka, will get some applause before his death. He could just be the conductor though. - -- Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 09:52:11 +0100 From: "Guy Lawley" Subject: [AVALON] Live 8 on BBC 1 I got in from work about 8.30 pm and watched a bit of Live 8, can't remember who... very dull. Turned off my TV. I was reading a book* when the sound of Love is the Drug came drifting in through my window from a neighbour's flat. Maybe they are showing some Berlin footage? I wondered, turned on my TV just in time to see the last few bars of LITD. So I have no idea if they showed the whole song, or maybe more?? Jonathon Ross, a fan as we all know, gave them a humorous send off on voice-over; "Das ist der Roxy Music in Berlin" -- accent pretty good, I thought for a moment he was a real German announcer! Pink Floyd were on just after that so it was a good time to turn the telly back on, seeing as they weren't bad. I suppose it was a "historic occasion" since Waters was back with the band for the first time since the Jurassic era. Must have meant a lot to some! I thought his intro to Wish You Were Here summed up some of the problems of an event like this; "We're doing this for all the people who aren't here," he began. I presumed he meant all those ordinary Africans who don't have much voice in world affairs. But no; "And especially for Syd," he concluded. Ah yes. Syd's place in the ending of poverty in Africa must be confirmed. Overall this was an event for wealthy rock stars to ease their consciences. Exiling the African bands to Cornwall seems like poor judgment to me. Maybe some of them will end up on the DVD boxed set. Guy * League Of Extraordinary Gentlemen Vol II, Deluxe Edition by Alan Moore and Kevin O'Neill ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 10:19:29 +0100 From: "Mark Stephens" Subject: [AVALON] Berlin G8 Only managed to see LITD , and heared a bit of Jealous Guy during Jonathon Ross interview. Hoping some kind soul, might of had the Techno wizardry to capture the whole show on disc, and do me a copy? Please contact me off list if you can oblidge. Highlight for me had to be seeing Pink Floyd together and The Who, Look forward to seeing you in Amsterdam. Regards, Mark ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 12:13:42 +0200 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: Re: [AVALON] Berlin G8 At 10.19 +0100 05-07-03, Mark Stephens wrote: >Hoping some kind soul, might of had the Techno wizardry to capture the whole >show on disc, and do me a copy? >Please contact me off list if you can oblidge. Me too. >Highlight for me had to be seeing Pink Floyd together and The Who, Plus U2, Craig David and Madonna. - -- Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 11:43:00 +0100 From: "Martin Stockman" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Live 8 on BBC 1 What a curmudgeonly review. Shame on you. Its so depressing when people don't watch / read / listen to something then bore everyone about how crap it was. We all thought it was great fun in this house. I liked around half the bands and my kids liked the other half! These things are never perfect, and the hype does grate a little, but I think there was a real power here. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Guy Lawley Sent: 03 July 2005 09:52 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: [AVALON] Live 8 on BBC 1 I got in from work about 8.30 pm and watched a bit of Live 8, can't remember who... very dull. Turned off my TV. I was reading a book* when the sound of Love is the Drug came drifting in through my window from a neighbour's flat. Maybe they are showing some Berlin footage? I wondered, turned on my TV just in time to see the last few bars of LITD. So I have no idea if they showed the whole song, or maybe more?? Jonathon Ross, a fan as we all know, gave them a humorous send off on voice-over; "Das ist der Roxy Music in Berlin" -- accent pretty good, I thought for a moment he was a real German announcer! Pink Floyd were on just after that so it was a good time to turn the telly back on, seeing as they weren't bad. I suppose it was a "historic occasion" since Waters was back with the band for the first time since the Jurassic era. Must have meant a lot to some! I thought his intro to Wish You Were Here summed up some of the problems of an event like this; "We're doing this for all the people who aren't here," he began. I presumed he meant all those ordinary Africans who don't have much voice in world affairs. But no; "And especially for Syd," he concluded. Ah yes. Syd's place in the ending of poverty in Africa must be confirmed. Overall this was an event for wealthy rock stars to ease their consciences. Exiling the African bands to Cornwall seems like poor judgment to me. Maybe some of them will end up on the DVD boxed set. Guy * League Of Extraordinary Gentlemen Vol II, Deluxe Edition by Alan Moore and Kevin O'Neill ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 07:02:12 EDT From: Go2Sweeney@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Live 8 on BBC 1 Fully agreed, it was great fun. Unfortunately, we had to go out at about 7 pm and videod the rest, but the sound went sometime after Madonna. So my husband didn't manage to hear the band he was really after, namely Pink Floyd. If anybody captured this and is willing to trade for it, I would be really grateful. Email me offlist please. Thanks, Goodie In a message dated 03/07/2005 11:53:20 GMT Standard Time, martinstockman@btinternet.com writes: We all thought it was great fun in this house. I liked around half the bands and my kids liked the other half! These things are never perfect, and the hype does grate a little, but I think there was a real power here. ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 07:38:23 EDT From: KWil632057@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Ferry is a slave to Emily, 25 Article and photo in the Sunday Mail. Message me off list with the header: 'Are You Clare Quilty?' All the best, Jonathan ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 16:17:33 +0200 From: "danyellow" Subject: [AVALON] live hell ! help! Hi kids here (in Italy) I could see only parts of the show.. SKY channel switched from Berlin to PARIS so I had to listen to somebody else instead of Roxy... I had a chance to see only small Jealous G. when world wide aired... :-( did somebody record all the Roxy show? dan in tears ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 09:26:15 -0500 From: MarlanaK@webtv.net (M.M.K.) Subject: [AVALON] Re: Live 8 Come on, give Brian Wilson a break. In his heyday he was up there. The fact that he has had so many health issues,( drugs frying his brain ) Like Ozzy Osborne they did it so long & this is the end result. Now in need of money, Wilson had those who took advantage he was always stoned. He just has reunited with his kids.--- Its a shame that he feels the need to sing when really he could write. But the reason for this affair is to make people aware of more than just poverty. Whatever Geldof has to bring to the forefront to get the message across he'll do. This was not Live Aid but it brought a lot of people out. Philadelphia crouds was unbelievable. Just a shame some of the other areas were not as equipped. I'd wish Ferry had been elsewhere other than Berlin.---The EMC's were going on about Sara McLachlan & how wonderful she was. We here didn't even see her. Did see Sharika & Dido in Paris but that was all US got to see. Can't please everyone, guess we'll all have to wait another 20 yrs to have the DVD released in its entirety. Always, Marlana ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 10:35:01 EDT From: Chandla911@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Re: avalon-digest V10 #158 In a message dated 03/07/2005 09:07:06 GMT Standard Time, owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org writes: From: KWil632057@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Roxy at Live 8 Roxy Music will be appearing at exactly 18.06 and 30 seconds Oh yeah...? Not even On The Radio. Best wishes Richard Mills ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 11:47:46 -0500 From: "Judy Kaufman" Subject: [AVALON] Watch Roxy at Live 8 Click on Berlin. Roxy are about 52 minutes in. http://music.channel.aol.com/live_8_concert/home/uk_main Judy [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type application/octet-stream which had a name of AOL Music LIVE 8 on AOL UK -- Get Concert, Performers and Charity Information.url] ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 11:07:00 -0700 (PDT) From: hugh manatee Subject: [AVALON] Re: avalon-digest V10 #158/ Roxy at Live 8 > VP > LITD > DTS > JG > anybody with a good audio recording willing to tree/vine this out to the list? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 14:16:15 EDT From: JohnOBrien001@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Live 8 The highlight for me was Annie Lennox her performance was excellent. I never thought I would say it but I thought Maddona's set was good. Does she begin all her childrens story books with "OK kids are you _F*&#ing_ (mailto:F*@#ing) ready" The Who were outstanding again, I am a big fan of theirs but they seem to do the same songs at these events just like another artist I know. ;-) All I saw of Roxy was what BBC showed just before Pink Floyd. These events are always a hit and miss if you get a good or bad sound. I couldn't hear the bassline on Love Is The Drug which is essential to this song. (A different compliant form KOKO) Travis too suffered from a bad sound but they seemed to go down well with the crowd. Keane, The Killers, Snow Patrol & Scissors Sisters where the best 'new bands' with some ghood performances. Velvet Revolver were absolute mince with every heavy rock cliche they could find. I have never liked The Beach Boys or Brian Wilson and could never see what all the fuss was about with Pet Sounds and his other so called classics. His brain may be fried with drugs then who's fault is that, I know people who have brain problems and never took a drug in their life so I have very little sympathy for Mr Beach Boy. I am sure he is a very nice man but just could never stand his music. I always found The Beach Boys like the Bee Gees, they sounded as if they where someone taking the mickey out of them like a French & Saunders sketch. He looked sad on the stage and time to hang up his microphone. I now know why Snoop Doggy Dog has such a big entourage with him. It is so that all their family buy his records because I am sure that is the only way he gets into the charts, who buys such dross? Overall I enjoyed a lazy day at the TV with a bottle of 2004 Cabernet Sauvignon (given to me in a box of 12 by a few friends for my birthday ;-)) It remains to be seen what the affect the whole purpose of these shows will have. I hope all the artists who spent their time (wheather I enjoyed them or not) did not do so for nothing. J.O'B. ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 15:12:49 EDT From: Roxypiglet@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: Live 8 I agree it was all for a good cause yes Brian Wilson was excellent in his heyday. Being fuelled with drugs & totally self indulgent all his life is not a reason to feel sorry for him you choose to take them! His Children yes they neither asked or deserved to have a father with his legacy of drug related health problems.b& He would do better as a spectator or be wheeled on the march ! rather than make himself look foolish after all these years. I would like to think Ferry would give up before he tarnished his legacy. The only ones we should feel sorry for here is the poverty stricken people in the world ruled by other self indulgent leaders who will never have the chance to grow up let alone cause their own down fall in life. ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 23:10:06 +0200 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: Live 8 One of the highlights, now when I am watching what I taped while walking the dogs, is Robbie Williams and Angels, Wow! - -- Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Jul 2005 17:00:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Joel Hurd Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: Live 8 He's awful. I call Robbie Williams the swaggering Pied Piper of Mediocrity. Cliche pop at it's blandest, made worse by the fact that he's held up in some quarters as the near-pinnacle of pop music. Standards of listening. They're dropping daily! :P . Back on topic, I'm disappointed that The BBC didn't show much of Roxy Music in Berlin (too busy showing crud like UB40 I'd venture to guess). Drat and double drat! - ---joel - --- Daniel Atterbom wrote: > One of the highlights, now when I am watching what I taped while > walking the dogs, is Robbie Williams and Angels, > > Wow! > -- > > Daniel Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V10 #159 ***************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest