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avalon-digest          Tuesday, June 7 2005          Volume 10 : Number 131



                               Today's Subjects:
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  [AVALON] Ain't complaining                             [Chandla911@aol.com]
  [AVALON] Eno in Scotsman                               [Chandla911@aol.com]
  Re: [AVALON] Eno in Scotsman       [Joel Hurd <endofthelinejoel@yahoo.com>]
  [AVALON] Koko venue suggestions                      [jocelynfiske@aol.com]
  [AVALON] Nearest tube                                  [Roxypiglet@aol.com]
  RE: [AVALON] Koko venue suggestions  ["Martin Stockman" <martinstockman@bt]
  Re: [AVALON] Nearest tube                            [jocelynfiske@aol.com]
  Re: [AVALON] Koko venue suggestions                  [jocelynfiske@aol.com]
  RE: [AVALON] Koko venue suggestions   [Daniel Atterbom <daniel@hundens.se>]
  Re: [AVALON] Nearest tube             [Daniel Atterbom <daniel@hundens.se>]
  Re: [AVALON] Koko venue suggestions  ["Ivor Canning" <ivorcanning@freeola.]

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Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 04:20:39 EDT
From: Chandla911@aol.com
Subject: [AVALON] Ain't complaining

...but surprised no-one has picked up recently on the schticky claim  by 
Liverpool that theirs would be "the only UK mainland gig by Roxy Music to be  
staged on a weekday in a month with a J during the whole of 2005"...
 
I am looking forward to Camden Koko ("the only England capital gig by Roxy  
Music in 2005") tremendously but, when tickets went on sale to the public,  
didn't Liverpool become just "the latest UK mainland gig in 2005 to be announced  
by Roxy Music so far"?
 
Clearly, the claim was worded tenuously in the first place to accommodate  
Saturday's IoW gig, but why does an artist permit such grandiose claims in the  
first place? Sorry? Oh yeah, that's right...
 
Best wishes
Richard Mills
 
n.p Debris - Faces


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Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 07:07:08 EDT
From: Chandla911@aol.com
Subject: [AVALON] Eno in Scotsman

Not a smutty reference to John O'Brien, but a reference to an interesting  
article in the Scotsman newspaper. 
Also available online at http://news.scotsman.com/features.cfm?id=616932005
 
"The sonic wizard behind Roxy Music tells Aidan Smith why life's too  
short for nostalgia

THERE are many men - and they're mostly men - who  have made it to their 40s 
despite their lives taking a turn for the worse back  in 1973 when classic-era 
Roxy Music lost their sonic wizard.

And when  Brian Peter George St John le Baptiste de la Salle Eno emerges from 
the shower  after his morning run, picks up the cup of tea made for him by 
his assistant  Marlon and then does something almost anathema to him - sits 
still for a few  minutes - he finds himself confronted by one of them.

I'm not stalking  him. Eno has invited me to his recording studio in Notting 
Hill - mews-small on  the outside, Tardis-dimensioned inside - to chat about 
his new album. But I have  an ulterior motive: to get him and Roxy back 
together for a reunion  concert.

Aged 14, I loved Roxy more than anything. Others loved them even  more - 
enough to want to form groups of their own. Earlier this month, Roxy were  hailed 
as the second most influential band after the Beatles.

A glance at  Eno's giant planner shows he still keeps himself busy. Never 
mind the section  devoted to his electioneering on behalf of the Lib Dems, or the 
song list for  the previous night's meeting of his a cappella group, the 
diary proper  is a felt-pen frenzy of cerebral names, places, lectures, lunches, 
openings and  happenings you could only describe as Enoesque.

Last week Eno was in New  York, producing Paul Simon. Later today he's giving 
a talk on why artists should  be more like scientists. And if it's Thursday 
it must be St Petersburg. He's  Russia-bound next for a gig to be performed 
entirely on laptop. Thirty-two years  ago, he perched behind a synthesiser the 
size of a cow.

But my biggest  problem looks like being the determination of rock's 
favourite lateral thinker  never to repeat himself. He refuses to look back; just 
doesn't do nostalgia.  "Brian won't want to talk about U2," his press officer Lisa 
warns me beforehand.  "Don't mention U2," confirms 
Marlon, while we wait for the great, bald,  jogging avant-gardist to show up.

Eno - who has indeed produced Bono's  band, collaborated with David Bowie on 
his Berlin trilogy and sprinkled his  fairy dust over Talking Heads, too - 
thrusts himself centre-stage with Another  Day on Earth, his first album of 
conventional songs, and the first to feature  Singing Eno, since 1990.

"I sing all the time - that was Bowie I was  singing in the shower - and I 
actually think singing is the key to human  happiness," he says. "I've spent a 
long time doing instrumental music but as the  technology has got more 
advanced, it has become less and less interesting to me.  In the Roxy days, 
synthesisers only had one note. Now I've got a synth where  
you hold down a key and you've got yourself an entire ambient  career."

Eno pioneered ambient and later would plant the flag for a  generation of 
samplers. But does he now think the synthesiser has failed? "It's  suddenly the 
easiest thing to do," he says. Synths might have reduced from  cow-size, but a 
bovine sluggishness has come to characterise their usage since  Eno first 
provided the otherworldliness behind Bryan Ferry's  
croon.

What, then, does he think of the young band with the most Roxy  references, 
Glasgow-based art-rockers Franz Ferdinand? "I like them, they're  very smart." 
Then on my notepad he scribbles the headings "Guitars" and  "Electronica", two 
musical styles which rarely converge. "If I had one piece of  advice to them 
it would be to turn their heads in 
this direction," he says,  pointing to the "Electronica" camp. It sounds like 
they need an Eno, I say.  "Well, I do think they need a fifth member. I'd 
only be available for a few days  but I could show them what to do." (Admit it, 
guys - you're  intrigued.)

IT IS EASY WHEN Eno reels off more of his hectic schedule -  the recent 
lectures in California against the theory that music is a universal  language, the 
forthcoming score for a Michelle Faber story - to arrive at the  conclusion 
that he's come a long way from the retro-futurism of Roxy. But on the  fourth 
track of the new album, 'Caught Between', he sounds like Ferry.

He  laughs. "That wasn't my intention but I'm flattered by the comparison. 
Bryan is  a great singer." But maybe I want to believe in some sort of distant 
connection  because after Eno left Roxy, they stopped being wonderfully weird.

At the  start of my Roxy obsession, because of tricky typefacing, I thought 
Eno's name  was "END". There were rumours it was his head on Amanda Lear's body 
on the cover  of the For Your Pleasure album. Was he, in fact, a she? Was he, 
as he claimed in  Sounds magazine, an alien?

He might be an intellectual and an idealogue  now, but according to a recent 
biography of Roxy, he used to be such an athletic  appreciator of groupies 
that he suffered a collapsed lung. Certainly no one else  in the dreary, 
bedenimed early 1970s looked like the peacock-plumaged  Eno.

He and Ferry suffered a clash of egos, but in 2002 they recorded  together 
for the first time since the long "Ta-ra" fade-out on the second Roxy  LP. "It 
was lovely working with Bryan again," he says.

Ferry had run out  of songs for his Frantic album and was, well, frantic. 
Eno does a funny  impression of Ferry's semi-legendary diffidence. "I said to 
him, 'I might just  have something for you'." Then he reaches for a what 
appears to be a fun-sized  zither and picks out the melody to 'I Thought'. Not bad 
for a self-professed  non-musician, who the first Roxy producer Peter 
Sinfield called "one of the  world's most brilliant frauds".

Did Ferry fulfil all his early Roxy  potential? A long pause. "No, but then 
neither did I. This is a sad story,  really, and I was talking about it with a 
chap I met on my run this morning. He  told me about a friend who was a 
terrible alcoholic, came out of rehab, founded  a make-up 
company and now he's a multi-multi-millionaire. It's funny how  people who 
have one tiny idea do a lot better than those of us who have  plenty."

Photographs of Eno's two teenage daughters from his second  marriage adorn 
the walls of the studio and there's also one of him, aged 15, in  his native 
Suffolk, with three chums: the Black Aces, his very first band. "I  was the 
drummer - and look, I had hair then."

The faded snap jogs the  memory because even anti-nostalgists possess one, 
and now he's rooting around in  a box of seven-inch American R&B singles. There 
was a US military base near  his home and this was the music on the jukeboxes. 
He plays me 'Life's Too Short'  by the Lafayettes and remembers the first 
time he heard it.

That was the  first record to excite Eno, who was useless at games, only ever 
scored one  "complete mystery goal" at football and now believes sport only 
exists to be  funded by governments as "a way of funnelling off the 
revolutionary energy of  men". Then he reveals that the last record he will ever
make is 
not far  off.

I had better move fast if I'm to corral him back into the  
field-beyond-leftfield once inhabited by Roxy, with or without his cow 
synthesiser. They've 
already announced plans to regroup for a summer festival  performance on the Isle 
of Wight.

Rock music was never more thrilling  than Eno-period Roxy, I say. "It was 
thrilling, then," he counters. "I probably  wouldn't mind doing the Isle of Wight 
if I could take the train down, wander  around and go, 'Oh, they're on'. But 
it wouldn't just be one day's  work.

"Of course, you try not to repeat but you do, all the time." He  begins each 
day trying to recapture the "new sensation" of old Roxy but, he  admits, rar
ely succeeds.

"When you're young you have nothing else to do.  Nobody's calling you or 
asking you along to the Royal College of Art. You're  alone with your ideas and 
that's a luxury young bands don't realise. When you  achieve success it's easy 
to coast along and your biggest enemy is your need to  be distracted: by e-mail 
or anything else that's going on. It's a great  discipline, when the work 
isn't going well, to say, 'I'm just going to sit here  and face up to my absolute 
incompetence'."

When Eno starts having too  many days like that then the rest of us really 
will be in trouble. Inevitably, I  have failed in my mission to get him to 
rejoin Roxy, but an hour in his company  makes me want to rush home and read that 
difficult book I've been putting off  for ages... or 
at the very least stop watching Celebrity Love Island. Eno,  of course, got 
rid of his TV three years ago and for him I seriously doubt if  there will ever 
be an "END".

Another Day on Earth (Opal) is released on  June 13"  

Best  wishes
Richard Mills 
 
n/p Churches of the Interstate - Laura  Cantrell


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Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 07:38:50 -0700 (PDT)
From: Joel Hurd <endofthelinejoel@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [AVALON] Eno in Scotsman

Excellent read!


> interesting  
> article in the Scotsman newspaper. 
> Also available online at
> http://news.scotsman.com/features.cfm?id=616932005
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Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2005 11:11:07 -0400
From: jocelynfiske@aol.com
Subject: [AVALON] Koko venue suggestions

In answer to the recently asked question where in Mornington Cresent to meet and drink pre/post the Koko gig, you're roving reporter donned her cast iron stomach and body armour to do a recee of the scuzz-hole that is Camden.
Now, I don't know how many of you are familiar with this neck of the woods, but Roxy-like watering holes are few and far between. Most places are hard core Irish pubs, or cavernous venues that featured in the heyday of punk and haven't been cleaned or changed their clientele since those heady pogoing days.
 
Anyway, here are the findings of the judges:
 
If you don't mind pretty grubby spit'n'sawdust pubs The Hope ad Anchor right next door to the venue will do fine.
All the pubs are pretty much the same, but I ventured across what looks like it could be a little diamond in the rough further up the road.
If you walk away from Koko up Camden High Street (towards Camden tube station) you will come across Delancy Street on your left. Turn into this street and there is a place called Martini's Cocktail Bar on your left, next door to Delancy's restaurant. Martini's looks like it has a little garden through the back plus an upstairs and looks quite funky - have no fear I'm sure they do beer too. But it seemed quite an appropriate venue in the circumstances. If it is shut there is a bar across the road on Camden High Street and Pratt Street called Liberties which looks OK.
 
If a post gig is your favoured choice (and probably will be for most of us who are either working and or traveling), head back up towards Camden tube station and keep heading towards Camden Lock on Camden High Street. First left past the tube is Inverness Street (how apt). Turn into this street and on your right is Made in Brazil - it is great fun, great drinks and serves til 12pm - no mean feat for a Wednesday in London.
Just suggestions, but let us all know what you think, so anyone who wants to meet anyone else can do so successfully.
 
Cheers


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Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 11:34:38 EDT
From: Roxypiglet@aol.com
Subject: [AVALON] Nearest tube

Being an Essex girl & naturally fair  well ok blonde then. Please  forgive me 
for asking a probably quite obvious question  but  which  tube station is the 
nearest to the venue on Wednesday?
Kate
(not Tracy or Lisa & I promise not to dance round my handbag)
 alias roxypiglet 


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Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 16:36:56 +0100
From: "Martin Stockman" <martinstockman@btinternet.com>
Subject: RE: [AVALON] Koko venue suggestions

Oooh Martinis

(I'm back)

Pip pip
Martini

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To: avalon@smoe.org
Subject: [AVALON] Koko venue suggestions

In answer to the recently asked question where in Mornington Cresent to meet
and drink pre/post the Koko gig, you're roving reporter donned her cast iron
stomach and body armour to do a recee of the scuzz-hole that is Camden.
Now, I don't know how many of you are familiar with this neck of the woods,
but Roxy-like watering holes are few and far between. Most places are hard
core Irish pubs, or cavernous venues that featured in the heyday of punk and
haven't been cleaned or changed their clientele since those heady pogoing
days.
 
Anyway, here are the findings of the judges:
 
If you don't mind pretty grubby spit'n'sawdust pubs The Hope ad Anchor right
next door to the venue will do fine.
All the pubs are pretty much the same, but I ventured across what looks like
it could be a little diamond in the rough further up the road.
If you walk away from Koko up Camden High Street (towards Camden tube
station) you will come across Delancy Street on your left. Turn into this
street and there is a place called Martini's Cocktail Bar on your left, next
door to Delancy's restaurant. Martini's looks like it has a little garden
through the back plus an upstairs and looks quite funky - have no fear I'm
sure they do beer too. But it seemed quite an appropriate venue in the
circumstances. If it is shut there is a bar across the road on Camden High
Street and Pratt Street called Liberties which looks OK.
 
If a post gig is your favoured choice (and probably will be for most of us
who are either working and or traveling), head back up towards Camden tube
station and keep heading towards Camden Lock on Camden High Street. First
left past the tube is Inverness Street (how apt). Turn into this street and
on your right is Made in Brazil - it is great fun, great drinks and serves
til 12pm - no mean feat for a Wednesday in London.
Just suggestions, but let us all know what you think, so anyone who wants to
meet anyone else can do so successfully.
 
Cheers


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Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2005 11:53:40 -0400
From: jocelynfiske@aol.com
Subject: Re: [AVALON] Nearest tube

Mornington Cresent. Right opposite the venue. On the Northern line Charring Cross branch. 
 
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To: avalon@smoe.org
Sent: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 11:34:38 EDT
Subject: [AVALON] Nearest tube


Being an Essex girl & naturally fair  well ok blonde then. Please  forgive me 
for asking a probably quite obvious question  but  which  tube station is the 
nearest to the venue on Wednesday?
Kate
(not Tracy or Lisa & I promise not to dance round my handbag)
 alias roxypiglet 


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Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2005 12:08:51 -0400
From: jocelynfiske@aol.com
Subject: Re: [AVALON] Koko venue suggestions

Actually, I wondered if it was your new venture as I originally misread it as Martino's Cocktail Bar.
Your round, make mine a Cosmo.
Hmmm, do you get the impression we're starting to warm up to the idea of Wednesday now?
 
J
 
 
 
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From: Martin Stockman <martinstockman@btinternet.com>
To: jocelynfiske@aol.com; avalon@smoe.org
Sent: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 16:36:56 +0100
Subject: RE: [AVALON] Koko venue suggestions


Oooh Martinis

(I'm back)

Pip pip
Martini

- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org] On Behalf Of
jocelynfiske@aol.com
Sent: 06 June 2005 16:11
To: avalon@smoe.org
Subject: [AVALON] Koko venue suggestions

In answer to the recently asked question where in Mornington Cresent to meet
and drink pre/post the Koko gig, you're roving reporter donned her cast iron
stomach and body armour to do a recee of the scuzz-hole that is Camden.
Now, I don't know how many of you are familiar with this neck of the woods,
but Roxy-like watering holes are few and far between. Most places are hard
core Irish pubs, or cavernous venues that featured in the heyday of punk and
haven't been cleaned or changed their clientele since those heady pogoing
days.
 
Anyway, here are the findings of the judges:
 
If you don't mind pretty grubby spit'n'sawdust pubs The Hope ad Anchor right
next door to the venue will do fine.
All the pubs are pretty much the same, but I ventured across what looks like
it could be a little diamond in the rough further up the road.
If you walk away from Koko up Camden High Street (towards Camden tube
station) you will come across Delancy Street on your left. Turn into this
street and there is a place called Martini's Cocktail Bar on your left, next
door to Delancy's restaurant. Martini's looks like it has a little garden
through the back plus an upstairs and looks quite funky - have no fear I'm
sure they do beer too. But it seemed quite an appropriate venue in the
circumstances. If it is shut there is a bar across the road on Camden High
Street and Pratt Street called Liberties which looks OK.
 
If a post gig is your favoured choice (and probably will be for most of us
who are either working and or traveling), head back up towards Camden tube
station and keep heading towards Camden Lock on Camden High Street. First
left past the tube is Inverness Street (how apt). Turn into this street and
on your right is Made in Brazil - it is great fun, great drinks and serves
til 12pm - no mean feat for a Wednesday in London.
Just suggestions, but let us all know what you think, so anyone who wants to
meet anyone else can do so successfully.
 
Cheers


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Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 19:39:00 +0200
From: Daniel Atterbom <daniel@hundens.se>
Subject: RE: [AVALON] Koko venue suggestions

At 16.36 +0100 05-06-06, Martin Stockman wrote:
>Oooh Martinis
>
>(I'm back)
>
>Pip pip
>Martini

Good to have you back, Martin. I've wondered about you - if you left 
with Kicki G.
- -- 

Daniel


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Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 19:40:23 +0200
From: Daniel Atterbom <daniel@hundens.se>
Subject: Re: [AVALON] Nearest tube

At 11.53 -0400 05-06-06, jocelynfiske@aol.com wrote:
>Mornington Cresent. Right opposite the venue. On the Northern line 
>Charring Cross branch.

And was it on the Northern Line that Mr Eno met Mr Mackay? Or was it 
the Bakerloo line?
- -- 
Np Bo Hansson, Lord of the rings

Daniel


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Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 22:17:09 +0100
From: "Ivor Canning" <ivorcanning@freeola.net>
Subject: Re: [AVALON] Koko venue suggestions

Jocelyn goes to the top of the morning:

> Most places are hard core Irish

Shomebody call ?

Regards,

Ivor - who is looking forward to a Roxy gig actually ON his birthday on
Wednesday, rather than the day after (as in Dublin 2001).

Any chance of a birthday request ?  The whole of 'For Your Pleasure' ?  S8^/

n.p. Univers Zero '1313'


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