From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V10 #15 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Tuesday, January 18 2005 Volume 10 : Number 015 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [AVALON] Ultravox/Roxy ["Christian H. Soetemann" ] Re: [AVALON] uniforms ["A. van Lammeren" ] Re: [AVALON] Bryan's 2005 (2006?) new album / "Come on Bry!" [Joel Hurd <] Re: [AVALON] uniforms ["tmoq" ] Re: [AVALON] uniforms [KWil632057@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] Bryan's 2005 (2006?) new album / "Come on Bry!" ["Christian ] Re: [AVALON] uniforms [Daniel Atterbom ] Re: [AVALON] uniforms [Daniel Atterbom ] RE: [AVALON] uniforms ["Colette Robertson" ] RE: [AVALON] uniforms ["A. van Lammeren" ] RE: [AVALON] uniforms [f2hb@wanadoo.nl (2HB)] RE: [AVALON] uniforms [Heather Marie Buch ] RE: [AVALON] uniforms ["Colette Robertson" ] RE: [AVALON] uniforms [f2hb@wanadoo.nl (2HB)] RE: [AVALON] uniforms [f2hb@wanadoo.nl (2HB)] RE: [AVALON] uniforms ["Colette Robertson" ] Re: [AVALON] uniforms ["Don Schultz, Jr." ] Re: [AVALON] uniforms [Heather Marie Buch ] Re: [AVALON] uniforms [LeeSullivanart@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] uniforms ["A. van Lammeren" ] To leave the list, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon-digest ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 09:08:02 +0000 From: "Christian H. Soetemann" Subject: [AVALON] Ultravox/Roxy Hello all, maybe some of you would be interested to read about a brief, half OT passage I stumbled across on Billy Currie's website. Currie, of course is the keyboarder and violinist of Ultravox(!). The description below was made by Currie in his discussion of the Live Aid DVD release and Ultravox's involvement in this to illustrate Ultravox were not Midge Ure's backing band and includes a comparison to Ferry/Roxy, plus a popular misspelling. Currie: "The 80's Ultravox was never a singer songwriter setup like "Roxy Music2 or "The Police2. The 70's Ultravox line up was. Midge was not a songwriter. He put vocal parts on top of my music. If it WAS, I really wouldn't mind Midge going off and having a successful solo career because if he had have been the songwriter, like Ferry was to Roxy, well then I would be happy for him and it would spring back to benefit the Band. Everyone would be HAPPY! The way things are now though, with Midge and his solo career, is that he is really bringing down the good reputation that Ultravox had because he is USING it to try and make himself appear successful as a solo artist. Like he was the Brian Ferry to Roxy. Its cheap." Seems as if Roxy are getting on better with each other than the former Ultravox members. Bryan, get the new album done. Six tracks in three years is too slow. CHS ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 13:07:52 +0100 From: "A. van Lammeren" Subject: Re: [AVALON] uniforms Citing Heather Marie Buch: > I'm not trying to start nasty rumours, and I'm sure there's a perfectly > good explanation, but I seem to recall folks mentioning Bryan on stage in > a nazi uniform, or armband or something. What is the exact story > behind this, if any? > > Heather No nasty rumours to my knowledge... and there is always more to a story. I presume that people were referring to him wearing a brown shirt (I 'm sure the Nazis did wear similar shirts... but hey!?) with a Roxy Music logo on his upper arm... The shirt can been seen on the sleeve of 'Viva!'. Ron Snelderweert with his Remake/Remodel-band wore a similar shirt during his performance at A Mad Affair no.1 in London, February 2001... Have a look at: http://groups.msn.com/roxy2hb/amadaffair.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=2 and http://groups.msn.com/Roxy2HB/amadaffair.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=24 and (behind the curtains...) here: http://groups.msn.com/Roxy2HB/amadaffair.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=54 Tara, Anton. ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 06:45:49 -0800 (PST) From: Joel Hurd Subject: Re: [AVALON] Bryan's 2005 (2006?) new album / "Come on Bry!" > Bryan, get the new album done. Six tracks in three years is too slow. > > CHS Apparently the theme is 1910s wartime cover songs, plus an arbitrary mix of "originals". The preliminary tracklisting is: . 1. Pack Up Your Troubles In Your Old Kit Bag 2. Keep The Home Fires Burning 3. Over There 4. 'Til We Meet Again 5. Oh! How I Hate To Get Up In The Morning 6. Hinky Dinky Parlay Vous 7. Love War (re-re-reworked ORIGINAL from Alphaville) 8. Alphaville (re-re-re-reworked ORIGINAL from Alphaville) 9. I Don't Want To (re-re-re-re-reworked ORIGINAL from Alphaville) 10. You Can Dance (re-re-re-re-re-reworked ORIGINAL from Alphaville) . And the B-side (aka bonus track) from the lead-off single "Oh! How I Hate To Get Up In The Morning" is a re-interpreted cover of Bryan's previous re-interpreted cover of his song "2HB". A truely unique B-side since the 'double re-interpretation' effect makes "2HB" sound exactly like the original from Roxy Music's debut album. . . . . Sarcastic... moi? :) - ---joel __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - now with 250MB free storage. Learn more. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 13:34:24 -0500 From: "tmoq" Subject: Re: [AVALON] uniforms Check out: http://www.pipeline.com/~tmoq/uniform.html Gene - ----- Original Message ----- From: "A. van Lammeren" To: Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 7:07 AM Subject: Re: [AVALON] uniforms > Citing Heather Marie Buch: > > > I'm not trying to start nasty rumours, and I'm sure there's a perfectly > > good explanation, but I seem to recall folks mentioning Bryan on stage in > > a nazi uniform, or armband or something. What is the exact story > > behind this, if any? > > > > Heather > > > No nasty rumours to my knowledge... and there is always more to a story. > > I presume that people were referring to him wearing a brown shirt (I 'm sure > the Nazis did wear similar shirts... but hey!?) with a Roxy Music logo on his > upper arm... The shirt can been seen on the sleeve of 'Viva!'. > > Ron Snelderweert with his Remake/Remodel-band wore a similar shirt during his > performance at A Mad Affair no.1 in London, February 2001... > > > Have a look at: > http://groups.msn.com/roxy2hb/amadaffair.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=2 > and > http://groups.msn.com/Roxy2HB/amadaffair.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=24 > and (behind the curtains...) here: > http://groups.msn.com/Roxy2HB/amadaffair.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=54 > > > Tara, Anton. > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 14:10:56 EST From: KWil632057@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] uniforms I hate to say this but my old Editor was once fired from his post at a major mens magazine for a feature that named Rommell as a style icon. However repellent the Nazi's were, they were incredibly well dressed, which I think could account for why style icon Bry partially adopted the look. J N/p Dana 'Virginia Plain' ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 20:30:15 +0000 From: "Christian H. Soetemann" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Bryan's 2005 (2006?) new album / "Come on Bry!" So no re-interpretation of 'Find the Fox' by XTC? I am not sure if I have posted this before (redundant it seems anyway), but I wondered what it would be like if Bry recorded a re-interpretations album of people under his influence. Stuff like Hey Little Girl - Icehouse Strange Little Girl - Stranglers My Little Girl - Roxy Music Some Girls are Bigger than Others - Smiths Someone Somewhere in Summertime - Simple Minds (and maybe he should do a 25-year 'greatest miss' anniversary version of 'Don't You Forget About Me') (yes I know it was written by Keith Forsey) Pure Pleasure Seeker - Moloko Happy Endings - Pulp etc. CHS > From: Joel Hurd > Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 06:45:49 -0800 (PST) > To: avalon@smoe.org > Subject: Re: [AVALON] Bryan's 2005 (2006?) new album / "Come on Bry!" > >> Bryan, get the new album done. Six tracks in three years is too slow. >> >> CHS > > > Apparently the theme is 1910s wartime cover songs, plus an arbitrary > mix of "originals". The preliminary tracklisting is: > . > > 1. Pack Up Your Troubles In Your Old Kit Bag > 2. Keep The Home Fires Burning > 3. Over There > 4. 'Til We Meet Again > 5. Oh! How I Hate To Get Up In The Morning > 6. Hinky Dinky Parlay Vous > > 7. Love War (re-re-reworked ORIGINAL from Alphaville) > 8. Alphaville (re-re-re-reworked ORIGINAL from Alphaville) > 9. I Don't Want To (re-re-re-re-reworked ORIGINAL from Alphaville) > 10. You Can Dance (re-re-re-re-re-reworked ORIGINAL from Alphaville) > > . > And the B-side (aka bonus track) from the lead-off single "Oh! How > I Hate To Get Up In The Morning" is a re-interpreted cover of Bryan's > previous re-interpreted cover of his song "2HB". A truely unique > B-side since the 'double re-interpretation' effect makes "2HB" sound > exactly like the original from Roxy Music's debut album. > > . > . > . > . > > Sarcastic... moi? :) > ---joel > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail - now with 250MB free storage. Learn more. > http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 20:29:27 +0100 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: Re: [AVALON] uniforms At 14.10 -0500 05-01-17, KWil632057@aol.com wrote: >I hate to say this but my old Editor was once fired from his post at a major >mens magazine for a feature that named Rommell as a style icon. >However repellent the Nazi's were, they were incredibly well dressed, which >I think could account for why style icon Bry partially adopted the look. "Give the vote to 15-year-olds and they will vote Nazis in because of their uniforms." US comic book creator Howard Chaykin - -- Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 20:31:15 +0100 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: Re: [AVALON] uniforms At 13.34 -0500 05-01-17, tmoq wrote: >Check out: http://www.pipeline.com/~tmoq/uniform.html Great photos Gene, but Mr Ferry does not look like a Nazi, more of a third world revolutionary imho. - -- Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 19:39:52 -0000 From: "Colette Robertson" Subject: RE: [AVALON] uniforms That looks like his "American GI" look in that picture, worn around the Siren tour/album era. Cheers, Colette - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org] On Behalf Of tmoq Sent: 17 January 2005 18:34 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: Re: [AVALON] uniforms Check out: http://www.pipeline.com/~tmoq/uniform.html Gene ___________________________________________________________________________ ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:19:36 +0100 From: "A. van Lammeren" Subject: RE: [AVALON] uniforms Citing Colette: > That looks like his "American GI" look in that picture, worn around the > Siren tour/album era. > > Cheers, Colette > > Check out: http://www.pipeline.com/~tmoq/uniform.html > > > > Gene American GI's looked like that? I remember only Elvis, singing "Muss ich denn..." Tara, Anton. ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 22:24:05 +0100 From: f2hb@wanadoo.nl (2HB) Subject: RE: [AVALON] uniforms Indeed this one was the GI-look around Siren-tour However he wore a different uniform too during a German(?) leg of tour(?) Big strap across shoulder to waist and knee high boots If I'm right it's on one track of the Musikladen video There must be a pic around the net somewhere But definetly NOT Nazi... 2HB At 19:39 17-01-2005 +0000, Colette Robertson wrote: >That looks like his "American GI" look in that picture, worn around the >Siren tour/album era. > >Cheers, Colette > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org] On Behalf Of tmoq >Sent: 17 January 2005 18:34 >To: avalon@smoe.org >Subject: Re: [AVALON] uniforms > >Check out: http://www.pipeline.com/~tmoq/uniform.html > >Gene ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:37:24 +0100 (MET) From: Heather Marie Buch Subject: RE: [AVALON] uniforms I have Musikladen, so I'll check. So did he wear the strap and boots on the german leg of the tour? That's a bit odd! Oh well. Those young post-modernists. What'll they think of next? Nothing's shocking. Thanks for the link and the explanation! Heather On Mon, 17 Jan 2005, 2HB wrote: > Indeed this one was the GI-look around Siren-tour > > However he wore a different uniform too during a German(?) > leg of tour(?) > Big strap across shoulder to waist and knee high boots > If I'm right it's on one track of the Musikladen video > There must be a pic around the net somewhere > > But definetly NOT Nazi... > > 2HB > > At 19:39 17-01-2005 +0000, Colette Robertson wrote: > >That looks like his "American GI" look in that picture, worn around the > >Siren tour/album era. > > > >Cheers, Colette > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org] On Behalf Of tmoq > >Sent: 17 January 2005 18:34 > >To: avalon@smoe.org > >Subject: Re: [AVALON] uniforms > > > >Check out: http://www.pipeline.com/~tmoq/uniform.html > > > >Gene > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:02:36 -0000 From: "Colette Robertson" Subject: RE: [AVALON] uniforms I would agree there is definitely no Nazi connection but the outfit you mention is the one which was considered to be "controversial". I think perhaps it was worn on the "Country Life Tour". I haven't seen a full length picture anywhere, only head and shoulders. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v621/Roxysiren/Roxymusic1974.jpg Cheers, Colette - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org] On Behalf Of 2HB Sent: 17 January 2005 21:24 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: RE: [AVALON] uniforms Indeed this one was the GI-look around Siren-tour However he wore a different uniform too during a German(?) leg of tour(?) Big strap across shoulder to waist and knee high boots If I'm right it's on one track of the Musikladen video There must be a pic around the net somewhere But definetly NOT Nazi... 2HB ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:38:09 +0100 From: f2hb@wanadoo.nl (2HB) Subject: RE: [AVALON] uniforms I've checked the Musikladen video It's there, the Country Life part, If It Takes All Night and Out Of The Blue 2HB At 22:24 17-01-2005 +0100, 2HB wrote: >... >Big strap across shoulder to waist and knee high boots >If I'm right it's on one track of the Musikladen video >There must be a pic around the net somewhere > >But definetly NOT Nazi... > >2HB > >At 19:39 17-01-2005 +0000, Colette Robertson wrote: >>That looks like his "American GI" look in that picture, worn around the >>Siren tour/album era. >> >>Cheers, Colette >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org] On Behalf Of tmoq >>Sent: 17 January 2005 18:34 >>To: avalon@smoe.org >>Subject: Re: [AVALON] uniforms >> >>Check out: http://www.pipeline.com/~tmoq/uniform.html >> >>Gene > > >___________________________________________________________________________ >To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 01:07:03 +0100 From: f2hb@wanadoo.nl (2HB) Subject: RE: [AVALON] uniforms Apparently odd, yes...what would have been the idea behind? 'Cause by my knowledge he was wearing the Gaucho look on the Country Life tour (at least it was the case here in Holland) and only one style a tour Only just realised this difference, now it's subject of talk... 2HB At 00:37 18-01-2005 +0100, Heather Marie Buch wrote: >I have Musikladen, so I'll check. So did he wear the strap and boots on >the german leg of the tour? That's a bit odd! > >Oh well. Those young post-modernists. What'll they think of next? >Nothing's shocking. > >Thanks for the link and the explanation! > >Heather > >On Mon, 17 Jan 2005, 2HB wrote: > >> Indeed this one was the GI-look around Siren-tour >> >> However he wore a different uniform too during a German(?) >> leg of tour(?) >> Big strap across shoulder to waist and knee high boots >> If I'm right it's on one track of the Musikladen video >> There must be a pic around the net somewhere >> >> But definetly NOT Nazi... >> >> 2HB >> >> At 19:39 17-01-2005 +0000, Colette Robertson wrote: >> >That looks like his "American GI" look in that picture, worn around the >> >Siren tour/album era. >> > >> >Cheers, Colette >> > >> >-----Original Message----- >> >From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org] On Behalf Of tmoq >> >Sent: 17 January 2005 18:34 >> >To: avalon@smoe.org >> >Subject: Re: [AVALON] uniforms >> > >> >Check out: http://www.pipeline.com/~tmoq/uniform.html >> > >> >Gene >> >> >> ___________________________________________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:24:31 -0000 From: "Colette Robertson" Subject: RE: [AVALON] uniforms LOL! Maybe after all the flak he took for the Gaucho look he had to do a quick change mid tour! Seems like "out of the frying pan and into the fire". That Musikladen performance is 1974 so that would make it the Country Life period so I guess he did wear more than one style. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v621/Roxysiren/BryanFerry1974001.jpg Cheers, Colette - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org] On Behalf Of 2HB Sent: 18 January 2005 00:07 To: Heather Marie Buch Cc: avalon@smoe.org Subject: RE: [AVALON] uniforms Apparently odd, yes...what would have been the idea behind? 'Cause by my knowledge he was wearing the Gaucho look on the Country Life tour (at least it was the case here in Holland) and only one style a tour Only just realised this difference, now it's subject of talk... 2HB At 00:37 18-01-2005 +0100, Heather Marie Buch wrote: >I have Musikladen, so I'll check. So did he wear the strap and boots on >the german leg of the tour? That's a bit odd! > >Oh well. Those young post-modernists. What'll they think of next? >Nothing's shocking. > >Thanks for the link and the explanation! > >Heather ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 23:30:58 -0500 From: "Don Schultz, Jr." Subject: Re: [AVALON] uniforms Wasn't the military uniform in vogue at this time? Didn't the khaki bandwagon evolve out of the art rock glam/glit crowd... Bowie utilized the uniform about the same time didn't he? (a paratrooper ensemble in photo shoots around this time, draped in an American flag... and standing in an open air limo ride from... Victoria Station? a la der fuhrer, not to mention some Hitler references he made). And later Gary Numan & Kraftwerk all borrowed from this military drag... and then countless others... Regards, D. *Sgt.* Schultz On Jan 17, 2005, at 7:07 PM, 2HB wrote: > Apparently odd, yes...what would have been the idea behind? > 'Cause by my knowledge he was wearing the Gaucho look on > the Country Life tour (at least it was the case here in Holland) > and only one style a tour > Only just realised this difference, now it's subject of talk... > > 2HB ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 06:31:37 +0100 (MET) From: Heather Marie Buch Subject: Re: [AVALON] uniforms Yes, that's true. And the Abba girls were running around in flight suits, and being photographed in helicopters too. The punk movement picked up where Bowie left off with the Clash wearing fatigues. That got picked up by everyone as it was a cheap look. I remember all the punks in Jr. High/High School wearing camoflauge pants, big boots, etc. I mean, what was more hardcore than big boots? And yet, the picture at http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v621/Roxysiren/BryanFerry1974001.jpg is perhaps a *bit* much. But then, so's Bryan. I just saw "Yellow Submarine" with my 4 year old son. We both loved it! Funny to see the blue meanies as nazis getting shot with flower pistols at the end. Heather On Mon, 17 Jan 2005, Don Schultz, Jr. wrote: > Wasn't the military uniform in vogue at this time? Didn't the khaki > bandwagon evolve out of the art rock glam/glit crowd... Bowie utilized > the uniform about the same time didn't he? (a paratrooper ensemble in > photo shoots around this time, draped in an American flag... and > standing in an open air limo ride from... Victoria Station? a la der > fuhrer, not to mention some Hitler references he made). And later Gary > Numan & Kraftwerk all borrowed from this military drag... and then > countless others... > > Regards, > D. *Sgt.* Schultz > > > On Jan 17, 2005, at 7:07 PM, 2HB wrote: > > > Apparently odd, yes...what would have been the idea behind? > > 'Cause by my knowledge he was wearing the Gaucho look on > > the Country Life tour (at least it was the case here in Holland) > > and only one style a tour > > Only just realised this difference, now it's subject of talk... > > > > 2HB > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 02:39:03 EST From: LeeSullivanart@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] uniforms As my memory tells it . . . The jackboot look was used alternately with the gaucho look during the Country Life tour - both revealed at the start of the tour, though of course the notoriety of the gaucho took more column-inches (though maybe it wouldn't these days) than the fascist-dictator look. The G.I. look of the Siren tour was a more mainstream echo of the jackboot version. But just what was applied to his eyebrows to get the Spock look on Manifesto? As a perspirer of note myself I can't imagine what managed to resist the flood of Ferry's facial outpourings. Those leather trousers must walk around by themselves . . . Lee S ____________________________________________ Easily distracted? Displacement activity a problem? Me too. Going to: _http://www.LeeSullivan.co.uk_ (http://www.leesullivan.co.uk/) won't help either. ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 09:29:30 +0100 From: "A. van Lammeren" Subject: Re: [AVALON] uniforms Just found this citation: "Art . . . must do something more than give pleasure: it should relate to our own life so as to increase our energy of spirit." - -- sir Kenneth Clark Clark was director of the National Gallery, London, and early BBC-television popularizer of art history. So it's 'clever' to use military uniforms, or am I trying to understand things too much? In relating to the military, there is lots of (pointless) energy to draw from. Pointless, well not pointless... but oh, what a waste of lives, during war I mean... The Love/War-theme avant la lettre. Tara, Anton. Citing "D. *Sgt.* Schultz": > Wasn't the military uniform in vogue at this time? Didn't the khaki > bandwagon evolve out of the art rock glam/glit crowd... Bowie utilized > the uniform about the same time didn't he? (a paratrooper ensemble in > photo shoots around this time, draped in an American flag... and > standing in an open air limo ride from... Victoria Station? a la der > fuhrer, not to mention some Hitler references he made). And later Gary > Numan & Kraftwerk all borrowed from this military drag... and then > countless others... > > Regards, > D. *Sgt.* Schultz > > > On Jan 17, 2005, at 7:07 PM, 2HB wrote: > > > Apparently odd, yes...what would have been the idea behind? > > 'Cause by my knowledge he was wearing the Gaucho look on > > the Country Life tour (at least it was the case here in Holland) > > and only one style a tour > > Only just realised this difference, now it's subject of talk... > > > > 2HB ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V10 #15 **************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest