From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V9 #232 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Tuesday, September 14 2004 Volume 09 : Number 232 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [AVALON] (possible misdiagnosis) Part 1 ["opd" ] [AVALON] Like a Hurricane [Jocelynfiske@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] SOTW: "Like A Hurricane" [Joel Hurd ] Re: [AVALON] (possible misdiagnosis) Part 1 [Colleen Matan ] Re: [AVALON] SOTW: "Like A Hurricane" [Daniel Atterbom ] Re: [AVALON] Roxy/Ferry DVDs [f2hb@wanadoo.nl] To leave the list, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon-digest ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 09:09:02 +0200 From: "opd" Subject: Re: [AVALON] (possible misdiagnosis) Part 1 > I'm not saying that you're wrong in this observation John, but I would > suggest that this slapdash (ha ha as of course even in slapdash mode Mr. > Ferry is still quite particular) mode of production is what gives > _Frantic_ its unique, and I would say refreshing, buoyancy. I agree, Colleen. Let's not forget that Ferry/Roxy once released 3 albums in one year (1973), and two of them are classics. When Bry first get hooked on details, he has a tendency never to finish an album. And Like a hurrican is not on "Viva!", but on "The High Road" Ole ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 05:12:38 -0400 From: Jocelynfiske@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Like a Hurricane Hope everyone in the path of Ivan is safe and well. Mr Dillon - did you escape unscathed? Jocelyn ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 02:39:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Joel Hurd Subject: Re: [AVALON] SOTW: "Like A Hurricane" Excellent choice of song for Roxy to cover. Their version feels very natural - the arrangement works around all members of the band. I came to this song after hearing Neil Young's original, and I much prefer the Roxy cover. Ferry's voice is in good form on the Heart Still Beating live recording. One downside is Ferry's increasing use of female backup singers for choruses - something he seemed increasingly to use in his solo career. It's not as if he had a weak voice in the 80s - he just seemed to shy away from it more and more. Of course nowadays, there's a stronger argument for him using backing singers to take the reigns in choruses, because his voice is that bit weaker now in 2004, and with less upper range. But back to the discussion again. A highlight for me is Andy's sax in the last 3rd of the song. Not having gone to the Avalon tour, I can only imagine how exciting it was to hear Roxy perform this live cover. Something unexpected and delightful. As to the quality of the song itself. It is excellent. Young wrote a cracker. One of my man-on-the-street acid tests is how hummable the tune is. And LAH is a good 'un. The imagery of the lyrics are good too. The elemental forces of nature paralleled to a person. (And indeed this love song almost manages to avoid the word 'love' too, which is meritorious!) ;) Not a top 20 Roxy/Ferry song for me, but possibly top 30. Thumbs up. - ---joel > The song of the week is "Like A Hurricane" (familiar to most of us > from the _Viva Roxy_ EP or the video). > > As before the discussion is open to anything related to the song, > and these are only suggestions: > > love it? hate it? > lyrics/music > it changed my life > live vs. studio version(s) (if applicable) > the video (if any) > that reminds me... > > Like A Hurricane (Neil Young, as performed live by Roxy Music > 1982-83) > > Once I thought I saw you > In a crowded hazy bar > Dancing on the light > From the star to star > > Far across the moonbeams > I know that's who you are > I saw youre brown eyes > Turning once to fire > > You are like a hurricane > There's calm in your eyes > And I'm getting blown away > > To somewhere safer > Where feelings stays > I want to love you > But I'm getting blown away > > I am just a dreamer > But you are just a dream > You could have been anyone to me > > Before that moment you touched my lips > That perfect feeling when time just slips > Away between us on your foggy trips __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 06:12:09 EDT From: LeeSullivanart@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Apathy rules Can I just put in a plea for a return to the old apathy on Avalon - this is taking up far too much of my valuable displacement-activity time :) Richard Mills, hang your head in shame. Look what you kicked up. And I didn't win a book. Nevertheless, hope you didn't get too wet last night aboard the Battleship Potemkin in Trafalgar Square . . . Lee S ____________________________________________ Easily distracted? Displacement activity a problem? Me too. Going to: http://www.LeeSullivan.co.uk won't help either. ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 11:06:05 +0100 From: "Terry Lane" Subject: RE: [AVALON] SOTW: "Like A Hurricane" I went to 3 shows on the Avalon Tour and the highlights for me were "Like A Hurricane" and "Can`t Let Go" I have never heard Neil Young`s version but I do Love Roxy`s version. Sorry to harp on, still looking for a copy of Roxy on TOTP2 - I will pay all costs Terry Lane - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org] On Behalf Of Joel Hurd Sent: 13 September 2004 10:39 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: Re: [AVALON] SOTW: "Like A Hurricane" Excellent choice of song for Roxy to cover. Their version feels very natural - the arrangement works around all members of the band. I came to this song after hearing Neil Young's original, and I much prefer the Roxy cover. Ferry's voice is in good form on the Heart Still Beating live recording. One downside is Ferry's increasing use of female backup singers for choruses - something he seemed increasingly to use in his solo career. It's not as if he had a weak voice in the 80s - he just seemed to shy away from it more and more. Of course nowadays, there's a stronger argument for him using backing singers to take the reigns in choruses, because his voice is that bit weaker now in 2004, and with less upper range. But back to the discussion again. A highlight for me is Andy's sax in the last 3rd of the song. Not having gone to the Avalon tour, I can only imagine how exciting it was to hear Roxy perform this live cover. Something unexpected and delightful. As to the quality of the song itself. It is excellent. Young wrote a cracker. One of my man-on-the-street acid tests is how hummable the tune is. And LAH is a good 'un. The imagery of the lyrics are good too. The elemental forces of nature paralleled to a person. (And indeed this love song almost manages to avoid the word 'love' too, which is meritorious!) ;) Not a top 20 Roxy/Ferry song for me, but possibly top 30. Thumbs up. - ---joel > The song of the week is "Like A Hurricane" (familiar to most of us > from the _Viva Roxy_ EP or the video). > > As before the discussion is open to anything related to the song, and > these are only suggestions: > > love it? hate it? > lyrics/music > it changed my life > live vs. studio version(s) (if applicable) > the video (if any) > that reminds me... > > Like A Hurricane (Neil Young, as performed live by Roxy Music > 1982-83) > > Once I thought I saw you > In a crowded hazy bar > Dancing on the light > From the star to star > > Far across the moonbeams > I know that's who you are > I saw youre brown eyes > Turning once to fire > > You are like a hurricane > There's calm in your eyes > And I'm getting blown away > > To somewhere safer > Where feelings stays > I want to love you > But I'm getting blown away > > I am just a dreamer > But you are just a dream > You could have been anyone to me > > Before that moment you touched my lips > That perfect feeling when time just slips > Away between us on your foggy trips __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ________________________________________________________________________ ___ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ________________________________________________________________________ This e-mail has been scanned for all viruses by Star Internet. ________________________________________________________________________ ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 08:24:53 -0400 (EDT) From: Colleen Matan Subject: Re: [AVALON] (possible misdiagnosis) Part 1 On Mon, 13 Sep 2004, opd wrote: > And Like a hurrican is not on "Viva!", but on "The High Road" That's what I get for going only by my increasingly older memory--thanks, Ole! Colleen ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 14:30:25 +0200 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: Re: [AVALON] SOTW: "Like A Hurricane" At 20.19 -0400 04-09-12, Colleen Matan wrote: >As before the discussion is open to anything related to the song, and >these are only suggestions: > > love it? hate it? Love it. > lyrics/music Great song overall. > it changed my life Yes, it madfe me listen more to Neil Young . > live vs. studio version(s) (if applicable) It's a great live song. > that reminds me... Roxy took the song out of a Mexican bar into a posh hotel like George V in Paris. That Roxy tour and a Neil Young concert in Stockholm 1982 finally made me choose rock music over JRR Tolkien fandom. It's one of Roxy's best covers. - -- Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 08:10:10 -0500 From: "Judy Kaufman" Subject: [AVALON] Question for Daniel Atterbom Daniel, Have you heard the new Willy DeVille CD, and if so, how is his version of Slave To Love? Actually, I'd appreciate opinions from any/all who may have heard it. Judy ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 15:46:31 +0200 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: Re: [AVALON] Question for Daniel Atterbom At 08.10 -0500 04-09-13, Judy Kaufman wrote: >Have you heard the new Willy DeVille CD, and if so, how is his version of >Slave To Love? Actually not, I'll see if I can find it at a record shop (buying new CD's is not a priority in my life at the moment when helping my wife who's starting a new business venture, but now I'm OT). Apart from that, those Avalonians that have not heard Mink DeVille (the '70-80's group) or Willy DeVille the singer solo ought to check them/him out. Start with the Willy DeVill compilations Spanish Stroll 1977-1987 and Love & Emotion, they overlap on a few tracks. - -- Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 10:42:35 -0400 From: Go2Sweeney@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Question for Daniel Atterbom It is not yet out here in England, but I plan to buy it as soon as it's out. Daniel's right Willy DeVille is very much worth a listen! Cheers, Goodie In an email dated 13/9/2004 2:46:31 pm GMT Daylight time, Daniel Atterbom writes: >At 08.10 -0500 04-09-13, Judy Kaufman wrote: >>Have you heard the new Willy DeVille CD, and if so, how is his version of >>Slave To Love? > >Actually not, I'll see if I can find it at a record shop (buying new >CD's is not a priority in my life at the moment when helping my wife >who's starting a new business venture, but now I'm OT). > >Apart from that, those Avalonians that have not heard Mink DeVille >(the '70-80's group) or Willy DeVille the singer solo ought to check >them/him out. > >Start with the Willy DeVill compilations Spanish Stroll 1977-1987 and >Love & Emotion, they overlap on a few tracks. >-- > >Daniel > > >___________________________________________________________________________ >To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 18:13:38 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Kenneth_Nystr=F6m?= Subject: Re: [AVALON] Question for Daniel Atterbom That sounds interesting Daniel: that Willy De Ville have recorded Slave To Love. My favourite among all Willy De Ville records is "Miracle" from 1987 which is produced by Mark Knopfler ( He also play a very tasteful guitar on all tracks) /Kenneth - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Atterbom" To: Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 3:46 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Question for Daniel Atterbom > At 08.10 -0500 04-09-13, Judy Kaufman wrote: >>Have you heard the new Willy DeVille CD, and if so, how is his version of >>Slave To Love? > > Actually not, I'll see if I can find it at a record shop (buying new CD's > is not a priority in my life at the moment when helping my wife who's > starting a new business venture, but now I'm OT). > > Apart from that, those Avalonians that have not heard Mink DeVille (the > '70-80's group) or Willy DeVille the singer solo ought to check them/him > out. > > Start with the Willy DeVill compilations Spanish Stroll 1977-1987 and Love > & Emotion, they overlap on a few tracks. > -- > > Daniel > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 14:39:13 -0500 From: "Judy Kaufman" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Question for Daniel Atterbom - ----- Original Message ----- From: Daniel Atterbom To: avalon@smoe.org Sent: Monday, September 13, 2004 8:46 AM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Question for Daniel Atterbom At 08.10 -0500 04-09-13, Judy Kaufman wrote: >>Have you heard the new Willy DeVille CD, and if so, how is his version of >>Slave To Love? >Actually not, I'll see if I can find it at a record shop (buying new >CD's is not a priority in my life at the moment when helping my wife >who's starting a new business venture, but now I'm OT). It will be released next week here in the US, but I thought perhaps it had been released earlier in Europe. From the first time I heard it, I thought Angels Don't Lie, from Loup Garou, would be interesting by our Bryan. Judy ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2004 21:39:03 -0500 From: "Jeff Turner" Subject: [AVALON] Roxy/Ferry DVDs Several other artists I like have recently done a neat thing with their older titles--they've doubled them up for DVD release. King Crimson put both of the 80s concert videos onto one DVD, and Sinead O'Connor did likewise with her first two concert videos. It seems to me like this would be a great way for Roxy and Ferry to get out some old stuff that's never been on DVD (at least Region 1/NTSC). People who are marginal on buying older titles are more likely to buy if they feel like they're getting a bargain, and the record company is only out the production and marketing of one DVD instead of two, if it flops. For Roxy, I'd like to see The High Road and Total Recall (an 80s-era rockumentary) together on a DVD, and for Ferry, New Town and the Mamouna show that was filmed but never released even on VHS. Regards, Jeff _________________________________________________________________ Get ready for school! Find articles, homework help and more in the Back to School Guide! http://special.msn.com/network/04backtoschool.armx ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 07:29:22 +0200 From: f2hb@wanadoo.nl Subject: Re: [AVALON] Roxy/Ferry DVDs At 21:39 13-09-2004 -0500, Jeff Turner wrote: >..., and for Ferry, New Town and the Mamouna >show that was filmed but never released even on VHS. > >Regards, >Jeff Can't agree more Wish they put Mamouna either on VHS and/or DVD The only time of a tour, I was able to follow and see the show 4 times in a row in 3 different countries 2HB ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V9 #232 **************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest