From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V9 #60 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Friday, March 5 2004 Volume 09 : Number 060 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [AVALON] hampton court tickets ["Tracy Connell" ] Re: [AVALON] Another Tour, Another Only Face [Jane Fraser ] Re: [AVALON] Pull your Finger Out Bryan! ( was TicketPrices,another only fa... [KB Porter Subject: [AVALON] hampton court tickets Hampton Court tickets on ebay.... http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2230064797&category=1307 http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2230065165&category=1307 #175 and #230! Tracy _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself with cool new emoticons http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/myemo ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 09:32:02 +0000 From: Jane Fraser Subject: Re: [AVALON] Another Tour, Another Only Face On Friday, March 5, 2004, at 08:19 AM, Tracy Connell wrote: > so if you don't like the prices or the setlist then don't go! > And spare a thought for our overseas friends who don't have the option > and must be sick to death of us lucky ones constantly complaining > about something they would love to be able to do. Jane ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 09:37:42 -0000 From: "Dave Taylor" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Another Tour, Another evening of 'Dogging'. > > > Thetford is aledgedly a centre for "doggin" please don't switch your > > > interior lights on whilst in the car park..... > > > > >? > >Inquiring Non-Brit minds want to know! > >Regards, R Deagle > > > Inquiring Brit also wants to know! ? > > Tracy "Dogging" is ( - I am led to believe - ) the act of performing a sexual act with a complete stranger in a public place, e.g. a park, or similar, whilst being observed by another stranger/group of strangers. The phrase emanates from the actions of dogs in public - who have no hang-ups about this kind of thing. I'm not sure if it originated as a gay thing - that's gay people, not gay dogs. Apparently, it's all the rage here in England - and we'll all be doing it soon ! Dave. ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 09:47:54 +0000 From: "Tracy Connell" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Another Tour, Another evening of 'Dogging'. >Apparently, it's all the rage here in England - and we'll all be doing it >soon ! Speak for yourself! : ) Which concerts are you going to and I'll avoid them! : ) just kidding!! Tracy _________________________________________________________________ Find a cheaper internet access deal - choose one to suit you. http://www.msn.co.uk/internetaccess ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 06:02:51 EST From: KWil632057@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Pull your Finger Out Bryan! ( was Ticket Prices, another only face etc.) Without wishing to push an argument further than neccesary I will attempt an explanation as to why I and many others are so disappointed with the state of things in Ferryville. My interest in Bryan Ferry and then Roxy Music comes from a love of the diverse, mysterious, unpredictable, witty and wonderful music. The act currently touring veers dangerously close to Phil Collins territory for my tastes. The public are happy, some of the fans are happy but there is something missing: the surprise and innovation that surely we all signed up for in the first place? I realise that it's typically fannish behaviour to complain but I do so because Bryan Ferry is my favourite singer. He's done (mainly) great things and to see him trotting out JG etc. every night is appalling. This is a man who should be making music that comments on the state of the world and the state of his life (a bit hard when he's trawling through the hits every night), I would say that there's a lot of material that could formulate some excellent Ferry originals but it won't happen while he is in the current creative vacum. We know he can still do it (I Thought undeniably being an instant classic and should've been a double A side with Fool For Love for a Christmas number 1!!) imagine an album full of songs to this standard and then tell me Ferry should fritter away his talent touring on past glories. When he's on his death bed I strongly doubt he will look back and think 'Great, I performed Jealous Guy 1,000s of times rather than cement my reputation with a fantastic album of original material.' In the same way that David Bowie fell into a horrid lull during the 1980's, I believe Ferry has fallen into a similar phase. Part of Bowie's problem during this era was that he became involved in a huge tour which took lots of money and was appealing to the public in general to the detrament of his artistic credbility. Ferry's problem is not far removed. He is clearly happy to take the cash for singing the familiar songs. Sure, as fans he could sing the phone book and we'll go but it's a short term fix. Am I moaning too much? If I don't like it then I shouldn't go I hear you cry, but hang on: I work hard for my cash and have an investment in Ferry. I have all his albums, I have videos, dvds and bootlegs. I have read books, magazine interviews and sleeve notes. In short, I know what he can do and I know that he's coasting. J ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 11:30:30 +0000 From: Jane Fraser Subject: Re: [AVALON] Pull your Finger Out Bryan! ( was Ticket Prices, another only face etc.) On Friday, March 5, 2004, at 11:02 AM, KWil632057@aol.com wrote: > Without wishing to push an argument further than neccesary I will > attempt an > explanation as to why I and many others are so disappointed with the > state of > things in Ferryville. Jonathan, I agree in principle with all you write but I see no point in the incessant whining. Can we not turn the argument round to what we would like, rather than what we don't want? Personally, I would love to see JG (and a few others) dropped from the repertoire for evermore - but it ain't going to happen. Bryan seems convinced that he has to play it at every show. I think the opportunity to play some of our favourites from In Your Mind (including the song we recently voted our all-time Ferry favourite if I remember correctly) has been scandalously missed over the last year or so with Spedding on board, and the chance to open the June Summer shows with This is Tomorrow seems just so obvious (possibly too obvious for Ferry) and slightly ironic (which I'm sure he would enjoy). I could go on and on but it would probably revert to whining! Jane ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 12:03:44 +0000 From: "Tracy Connell" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Pull your Finger Out Bryan! ( was Ticket Prices, another only face etc.) Hiya, >The act currently touring veers dangerously close to Phil Collins territory >for my tastes. The public are happy, some of the fans are happy but there >is >something missing: the surprise and innovation that surely we all signed up >for >in the first place? Phil Collins!!!! No way!!!!! Blasfamy! : ) >I realise that it's typically fannish behaviour to complain but I do so >because Bryan Ferry is my favourite singer. He's done (mainly) great things >and to >see him trotting out JG etc. every night is appalling. I think 'appalling' is quite a strong word to use. What about the fans who are not die-hard and want to hear JG. I suspect that they actually account for a very large proportion of the audience. Is Bryan supposed to ignore them and just sing what you would like? Some people want to hear the classics. I would >say that there's a lot of material that could formulate some excellent >Ferry >originals agreed. (I Thought undeniably being an instant classic and >should've been a double A side with Fool For Love for a Christmas number >1!!) I doubt if it could have been a Christmas number 1 (in the UK anyway) when the majority of the public will put something like like Mr Blobby at number 1. They seem to lose their sanity at Christmas. I do agree that 'I Thought' should have been released as a single. It's a really great song. >In the same way that David Bowie fell into a horrid lull during the 1980's, >I >believe Ferry has fallen into a similar phase. I don't believe that. I think if he can produce an album like Frantic now, that there's still something more to come. It's just our Bry is a little slow with new stuff. I say, wait and see. I also feel another Roxy reunion/show may be on the horizon. Who knows? >Am I moaning too much? If I don't like it then I shouldn't go I hear you >cry, >but hang on: > >I work hard for my cash and have an investment in Ferry. I have all his >albums, I have videos, dvds and bootlegs. I have read books, magazine >interviews >and sleeve notes. >In short, I know what he can do and I know that he's coasting. Perhaps so, but would you rather he weren't touring at all. At least you have the choice to go and see him live, get autographs etc. Enjoy the concerts while he's here! You know, I would give anything to be able to go and see Robert Palmer do the same live show every night! So everyone has had their moan. OK we all know what you all think, but does it have to go on repeatedly for weeks/months onlist? It's getting depressing. Yes, talk about what songs you would like to hear and maybe some will filter through to our Bry, but the arguements about the setlist not being up to standard is just getting plain boring now. Talk to some of your allies off-list maybe if you fancy a moan. How about a change in subject? How about...Do you think Bryan should produce videos to go with some of the songs on Frantic? We have footage of live performances, but what about videos? Tracy _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself with cool new emoticons http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/myemo ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 07:25:55 EST From: KWil632057@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Pull your Finger Out Bryan! ( was Ticket Prices, another only fa... In a message dated 05/03/2004 12:05:00 GMT Standard Time, tracyep@hotmail.com writes: > Perhaps so, but would you rather he weren't touring at all. At least you > have the choice to go and see him live, get autographs etc. Enjoy the > concerts while he's here! You know, I would give anything to be able to go > and see Robert Palmer do the same live show every night! Yes, I'd rather he had a long break from touring if it meant recording new material. I'm sorry to all those of you who are fed up with what you see as whinging/ moaning etc (feel free to instantly delete any posts from me under the subject, theres no obligation to read all my musings) but I really do feel strongly that those in command of Ferrys career read this list and can be persuaded to stop him from becoming a tribute act to himself. J ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 04:33:25 -0800 (PST) From: Joel Hurd Subject: RE: [AVALON] Frantic songs - music videos? > Do you think Bryan should produce videos to go with some of the > songs on Frantic? We have footage of live performances, but what > about videos? Yes, Bryan SHOULD (past tense) have made studio videos to accompany I Thought/IAONBB/etc. One of my favorite videos was the very simple one Roxy Music did for "JEALOUS GUY". Can't have been expensive either. But I don't see Bryan/his people creating music videos for a album released in 2002. . __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search - Find what youre looking for faster http://search.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 07:42:08 EST From: KWil632057@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Frantic songs - music videos? The last Ferry video produced was for...Mamouna? Given that the Ferry singles are not really promoted on release I doubt any of the Frantic singles got videos made for them. A pity really cause Ferry singing Cruel on a deserted rain sodden side road with neon lights in the background and disinterested supermodels filing past would've been a stonker! J ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 04:54:22 -0800 (PST) From: Joel Hurd Subject: Re: [AVALON] Pull your Finger Out Bryan! - --- KWil632057@aol.com wrote: > Yes, I'd rather he had a long break from touring if it meant > recording new material. > > > I really do feel strongly that those in command of Ferry's career > read this list and can be persuaded to stop him from becoming a > tribute act to himself. Hear, hear! . __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Search - Find what youre looking for faster http://search.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 08:08:42 EST From: JohnOBrien001@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Pull your Finger Out Bryan! I think there a few fundamental points being missed on this whole argument. Hands up anyone who is happy to see Bryan do the same old set. Keep your hand up if you would rather he didn't change it. Yes we are all glad to see Bryan perform the same old set at 58 etc etc etc if that is the only choice we have but it shouldn't be the only choice. I beleive anyone who is happy to see the same old tired set instead of nothing would given the choice prefer a less predictable set. On the other hand those who are complaining/moaning etc are fans who are speaking passionatly through nothing more than frustration. Bryan has a lifes body of work that is only looked at in part. The frustration is that there are so many things to choose from yet he doesn't seem to be looking further than a limited set of songs, that is where the frustration lies. I would say that 95% of the audience who are not die hards come to se Bryan do Slave To Love, Jealous Guy, Let's Stick Together & Love Is The Drug, and as long as the rest of the show is familiar they are happy. I could accept these songs at every gig I have seen him in if everything else changed a bit more. If Bryan has some sort of fromula to his set. Even if something like Love is The Drug was played as the second song in the set instead of its usual place near the end. If you look at bootlegs frome every tour since the '70s the last 4-5 songs come from the same group of songs. (Do The Strand, Editions Of You, Love Is The Drug, Virginia Plain, Let's Stick Together and the odd change) If Bryan has some sort of formula to his set like X amount of hits, X amount of new album, X amount of album tracks then his recent overplyed set can be replaced with the same sort of formula but with different songs. Some suggestions from myself from Bryan Ferry's life's work not based on my own personal favourites but some sort of logic to the choices: This Is Tomorrow & The Price Of Love, both huge hits so instantly recognisable for the 95% passing fans and they featured Spedding. Most importantly they were only ever done in one tour in 1977 so it would be good to see them return. The In Crowd, another huge hit not played since the Siren tour 1975, Mick Green would be great on that. All I Want Is You, another hit only ever played on one tour 30 years ago. Over You played on one tour in 1980 Angel Eyes, huge hit and on all the hits albums has a harp intro which would be a good vehicle for Julia but again not played since 1979. (I don't even like this track but a change is as good as a rest) Sign Of The Times another hit that was played live for the first time last tour but only at a handful of shows. I Put A Spell On You another hit for Bryan and many other artists so it is well known and has only been played on one tour 10 years ago. Is Your Love Strong Enough? has never been done live. Other big singles rarely played are Pyjamarama (not since 74), Same Old Scene (not since 80), Take A Chance With Me (not since 82) You Go To My Head (not since 77) Right Stuff (not since 1988) This is just many singles I mention but there are of course so many album tracks that would be nice to hear that have not been done for a long time or never at all. The instrumental Tara hasn't had the same affect this tour as it did on the Roxy tour as Andy MacKay is not there. There is no one on the stage during this piece that was on the original record so it seems like a cover band. A good instrumental I think for that part of the show is Your Application's Failed. The reasons are it is a lively uptempo piece, Spedding & Green would eat it and as you know there is a great affection for Paul Thompson from the crowd and this is his one and only released composition, but most importantly it has never been played live before. It would be nice if Bryan did a similar piano vocal arrangement like The Only Face with another song as Bryan has played this extensively on 2 recent tours. the only songs Bryan has ever changed radically from recorded version to live versions are Both Ends Burning (Avalon tour), The Only Face (As Time Goes By Tour) and Tara (2001 tour). Wouldn't it be nice even to hear some song with some element of surprise to it. I saw Bowie at the end of last year and he was half way throught this Flamenco style song when I realised it was Let's Dance It is knowing these possibilities that has made listening to Dance Away etc frustrating and has made many posts here be interprited as Ferry bashing. The Frantic tour has been the most varied tour he has done, I wrote these statistics on another post a long time ago but the odd change didn't seem to last long. there were so many songs played the odd time and then dropped in favour of the usual suspects. Just some thoughts I wish could filter through to the Ferry team. J.O'B. (the list member formerly known as OBrienFerry) ;-) ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 13:23:31 +0000 (GMT) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Chris=20Turner?= Subject: Re: [AVALON] See the woods from the trees Liverpool is now on sale at wayahead. Chris --- Chandla911@aol.com wrote: > The newly renamed Wayahead Tickets, now trading as See, are selling tickets > for 6 BF dates, none of which are Hampton Ct or Liverpool Dock. They have > tickets for Thetford Forest, Bedgebury Pinetum, Delamere Forest, Dalby Forest, > Cutteslowe Park and Westonbirt Arboretum. Not sure if these have all been > mentioned before but they most probably have been, If you want to See a link, go to: > http://www.seetickets.com/?a=bryan+fe > and no, I'm not on commission. > > Best wishes > Richard Mills (MusicInk) > > n/p Songs From The Wood (remastered) - Jethro Tull > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/download/index.html ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 13:41:37 +0000 (GMT) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Chris=20Turner?= Subject: [AVALON] Ferry artwork on display From today's Times: Stars' artwork on display Eleanor Chapman, 17, a Stowe School pupil who features in the current issue of Country Life, is staging an exhibition at Christies, Hip Art, which features works by Tracy Emin, Stephen Fry and Bryan Ferry. It will help to raise #8 million for the restoration of Stowe House, in Buckinghamshire. Pupils work also features in the show. Regards Chris ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/download/index.html ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 09:07:29 EST From: KWil632057@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Pull your Finger Out Bryan! As ever, John comes in as the voice of common sense! To even hear half the selections as listed below mixed together with a couple of new songs (and the usual hits for the layman: as an encore so we can get out of the car park early) would be a great improvement. Can you imagine the excitement? Trying to guess the intro as an unfamiliar song begins? Seeing the setlists on www.vivaroxymusic.com and noticing that an old, long lost favourite was now part of the set? Going to a show and not knowing exactly what delights Ferry was going to treat us with? A new song is premiered, leading to frenzied speculation on this very list and attempts by those lucky enough to hear to hum the melody to anyone expressing an interest. That's the way it should be. J This Is Tomorrow & The Price Of Love, both huge hits so instantly recognisable for the 95% passing fans and they featured Spedding. Most importantly they were only ever done in one tour in 1977 so it would be good to see them return. The In Crowd, another huge hit not played since the Siren tour 1975, Mick Green would be great on that. All I Want Is You, another hit only ever played on one tour 30 years ago. Over You played on one tour in 1980 Angel Eyes, huge hit and on all the hits albums has a harp intro which would be a good vehicle for Julia but again not played since 1979. (I don't even like this track but a change is as good as a rest) Sign Of The Times another hit that was played live for the first time last tour but only at a handful of shows. I Put A Spell On You another hit for Bryan and many other artists so it is well known and has only been played on one tour 10 years ago. Is Your Love Strong Enough? has never been done live. Other big singles rarely played are Pyjamarama (not since 74), Same Old Scene (not since 80), Take A Chance With Me (not since 82) You Go To My Head (not since 77) Right Stuff (not since 1988) ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 14:18:59 +0000 (GMT) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Chris=20Turner?= Subject: Re: [AVALON] See the woods from the trees Liverpool is also on sale at Ticketmaster (with VIP tix at $155!) Chris --- Chris Turner wrote: > Liverpool is now on sale at wayahead. > > Chris > > --- Chandla911@aol.com wrote: > The newly renamed Wayahead Tickets, now trading as See, are > selling tickets > > for 6 BF dates, none of which are Hampton Ct or Liverpool Dock. They have > > tickets for Thetford Forest, Bedgebury Pinetum, Delamere Forest, Dalby Forest, > > Cutteslowe Park and Westonbirt Arboretum. Not sure if these have all been > > mentioned before but they most probably have been, If you want to See a link, go to: > > http://www.seetickets.com/?a=bryan+fe > > and no, I'm not on commission. > > > > Best wishes > > Richard Mills (MusicInk) > > > > n/p Songs From The Wood (remastered) - Jethro Tull > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/download/index.html ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 14:19:38 +0000 From: "Tracy Connell" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Frantic songs - music videos? >Yes, Bryan SHOULD (past tense) have made studio videos to accompany >I Thought/IAONBB/etc. One of my favorite videos was the very simple >one Roxy Music did for "JEALOUS GUY". Can't have been expensive >either. > >But I don't see Bryan/his people creating music videos for a album >released in 2002. No, i don't think they would create videos for Frantic now. It would be interesting to think about what they may have been like. I guess everyone sees different images in their minds to the same songs. I guess that's Bryan's intention. I remember him saying that he didn't really want to make a video for 'Slave to Love' as it was better if the listener could create their own images in their head instead of Bryan 'telling a story' with a video. I suspect he still feels the same way. Although I do like that video - it was not at all what was going through my mind when I listened to the lyrics of the song. I also love the 'Jealous Guy' video. So simple as you say, and lots of great close ups of Bryan. I think that format could fit 'I thought' pretty well. Tracy _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself with cool new emoticons http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/myemo ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 14:24:13 +0000 From: Jane Fraser Subject: Re: [AVALON] Pull your Finger Out Bryan! Bravo John. Encore, encore!! If only someone in the right place would listen to you. Jane ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 14:25:27 +0000 From: "Tracy Connell" Subject: Re: [AVALON] See the woods from the trees Is Derbyshire on sale yet? And if so where from? Thanks Tracy >From: Chris Turner >Reply-To: roxyrama@yahoo.co.uk >To: avalon@smoe.org >Subject: Re: [AVALON] See the woods from the trees >Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 14:18:59 +0000 (GMT) > >Liverpool is also on sale at Ticketmaster (with VIP tix at $155!) > >Chris > > --- Chris Turner wrote: > Liverpool is now on sale >at wayahead. > > > > Chris > > > > --- Chandla911@aol.com wrote: > The newly renamed Wayahead Tickets, now >trading as See, are > > selling tickets > > > for 6 BF dates, none of which are Hampton Ct or Liverpool Dock. They >have > > > tickets for Thetford Forest, Bedgebury Pinetum, Delamere Forest, Dalby >Forest, > > > Cutteslowe Park and Westonbirt Arboretum. Not sure if these have all >been > > > mentioned before but they most probably have been, If you want to See >a link, go to: > > > http://www.seetickets.com/?a=bryan+fe > > > and no, I'm not on commission. > > > > > > Best wishes > > > Richard Mills (MusicInk) > > > > > > n/p Songs From The Wood (remastered) - Jethro Tull > > > > > > > > > >___________________________________________________________________________ > > > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > > > > > > >___________________________________________________________ >Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" >your friends today! Download Messenger Now >http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/download/index.html > > >___________________________________________________________________________ >To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself with cool new emoticons http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/myemo ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 09:27:53 -0500 From: KB Porter Subject: Re: [AVALON] Pull your Finger Out Bryan! ( was Ticket Prices,another only face etc.) Tracy presents a new topic: "How about...Do you think Bryan should produce videos to go with some of the songs on Frantic?" Bryan Ferry should have 'produced' video(s) to go with some song(s) off Frantic - he should have done that a couple of years ago for maximum effect. Further, he should have been an 'actor' within any video produced. But how would he have reconciled the image of yesteryear (think Frantic's album cover photo) with his current age projection? Is there no problem with that? No, Bryan Ferry should not make any videos to go with some songs from Frantic (with the exception of "I Thought", perhaps) since Frantic is now 'dated', not refreshing. Best wishes. KBP ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 08:44:23 -0600 From: "Paula Brown" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Another Tour, Another Only Face > And spare a thought for our overseas friends who don't have the option > and must be sick to death of us lucky ones constantly complaining > about something they would love to be able to do. Jane AMEN! Paula, no concerts in Texas this millenium. ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 09:49:57 EST From: JohnOBrien001@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Frantic Videos I think the reason for the lack of videos at the time of both Frantic and As Time Goes By are purely commercial. At Bryan's age and stage of his career he is never going to be a huge singles artist again no matter how good a record he makes, a fact of life. His recent singles will sell the amount they are going to sell and that is all same goes for his albums. A video etc will make slightly more sales but probably not enough extra sales to pay for the video. That's business for you, something they probably learned from the Mamouna period. J.O'B. ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 08:56:56 -0600 From: "Paula Brown" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Pull your Finger Out Bryan! >Some suggestions from myself from Bryan Ferry's life's work not based on my own personal favourites but some sort of logic to the choices:< That's right about 95 percent of the audience there to hear the hits. Sad but true. As far as choosing other songs goes though, no one will ever agree on what they want to hear, and so no matter what he does, most people will still be whining. No disrespect, but I, who normally don't whine, would be groaning over John's proposed setlist. So there's no making everyone, or even most people, happy. I think he does very well rotating lesser played songs in and out. You Brits get to hear things played live that no one else gets to when he adds them to the set for one or two gigs. Hiroshima, for example, one I'd love to have heard. Jane was right what she said earlier. A lot of us non-Brits think you're a bunch of crybabies who don't know how lucky you are. Complaining about ticket prices when it would cost me thousands to go see him since he never plays even remotely close to where I live. Almost anywhere sees more tour action from Bryan than the US these days. Paula ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 10:01:15 -0500 From: KB Porter Subject: Re: [AVALON] Pull your Finger Out Bryan! ( was Ticket Prices,another only fa... "I'm sorry to all those of you who are fed up with what you see as whinging/ moaning etc (feel free to instantly delete any posts from me under the subject, theres no obligation to read all my musings) but I really do feel strongly that those in command of Ferrys career read this list and can be persuaded to stop him from becoming a tribute act to himself." Jonathan, I know your intentions are well placed. But please try to remember there are fans subscribed to this list who are not able to tolerate any critical scrutiny of their idol, Bryan Ferry, as they defensively assume the critic is offensive. (Before anyone slings crap at me for the above statement, please consider that what is wine to one is vinegar to another - your 'not whining' wine is as acidic to those whom you whine about!) We all realize Mr. Ferry's immense creative capabilities, some of us have yet to come to grips with him limitations and mortality. Bryan Ferry has finite time on his side - it is our fortune to see him perform live, it would be our great fortune to be presented with new original work. Unfortunately, for us, BF is not able to tour and write/produce original work concurrently. I wish him well, I am happy he enjoys performing live, but I feel he contains a store of exciting goods if he would only take stock and sell. - It is difficult for some of us to accept that perhaps we are expecting too much from Mr. Ferry. And the inevitable degradation of that expectation is, at best, disguised dismissal of BF's potential. 'A mind is a terrible thing to waste.' KBP ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 15:14:28 +0000 From: "Tracy Connell" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Ferry artwork on display >From today's Times: > >Stars' artwork on display > >Eleanor Chapman, 17, a Stowe School pupil who features in the current issue >of Country Life, is >staging an exhibition at Christies, Hip Art, which features works by Tracy >Emin, Stephen Fry and >Bryan Ferry. It will help to raise #8 million for the restoration of Stowe >House, in >Buckinghamshire. Pupils work also features in the show. Does anyone live near this and could visit and let us know what is on display from Bryan Ferry? Would they let you take photos?? I'd be really interested to see some of his work. I have seen pictures of the odd ceramic he has produced, but apart from that I don't know how talented he is in this area. Anyone know of any pics on the web? Tracy _________________________________________________________________ Find a cheaper internet access deal - choose one to suit you. http://www.msn.co.uk/internetaccess ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 15:21:07 +0000 From: "Tracy Connell" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Pull your Finger Out Bryan! ( was Ticket Prices,another only fa... >Jonathan, I know your intentions are well placed. But >please try to remember there are fans subscribed to this >list who are not able to tolerate any critical scrutiny of >their idol, Bryan Ferry, as they defensively assume the >critic is offensive. Just want to say that I can tolerate critical scrutiny of Bryan Ferry. By all means no-one is perfect and he will never please everyone. It's just that the subject has been stretched to it's limit. Ok, we can delete post about it, but then we'd have nothing to read on the list. _________________________________________________________________ Stay in touch with absent friends - get MSN Messenger http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 15:39:51 +0000 From: Jane Fraser Subject: Re: [AVALON] Ferry artwork on display On Friday, March 5, 2004, at 03:14 PM, Tracy Connell wrote: > Anyone know of any pics on the web? There used to be an article on the Avalon site (I haven't been able to get into that for ages - has anyone else?) of a Ferry Residence circa 1990, I think, with some........ things on a table mentioned as being Bryan's work. For all I know they could be masterpieces, but they looked pretty nondescript to me. Should we be looking for the announcement of a show at Stowe House soon then? Jane ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2004 10:45:52 -0500 From: KB Porter Subject: Re: [AVALON] Pull your Finger Out Bryan! ( was TicketPrices,another only fa... Jane, I appreciate your sentiment, but "It's just that the subject has been stretched to it's limit." is your opinion, and it is not necessarily universally held. What is boring to one is not boring to another. Neither of us really has the right to tell the other what one may or may not talk about. - I believe only Colleen, as owner of this list, may tell any of us what is or what is not appropriate discussion. Do we really need censorship here? No offense intended. 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