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avalon-digest        Thursday, February 5 2004        Volume 09 : Number 031



                               Today's Subjects:
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  RE: [AVALON] it was the best of times, it was the worst of  times  ["Anton]
  Re: [AVALON] it was the worst of  times  [Joel Hurd <endofthelinejoel@yaho]
  [AVALON] Aussie articles                     [Scotty <ascott146@yahoo.com>]
  Re: [AVALON] New Book          ["Dave Taylor" <sales@carltonscreens.co.uk>]
  [AVALON] Link        ["Caledonia Controls Inc." <caledoniaci@sympatico.ca>]
  [AVALON] Silly Australian Interview                [LottieStreeter2@cs.com]
  [AVALON] Dream ticket                                  [Go2Sweeney@aol.com]
  Re: [AVALON] Link                                      [KWil632057@aol.com]
  RE: [AVALON] Silly Australian Interview  ["Anton van Lammeren" <avl@dds.nl]
  Re: [AVALON] Dream ticket      [Daniel Atterbom <daniel.atterbom@odata.se>]
  Re: [AVALON] Dream ticket                              [Go2Sweeney@aol.com]
  Re: [AVALON] it was the best of times, it was the worst oftimes  [KB Porte]
  Re: [AVALON] it was the best of times, it was the worst oftimes  [Joel Hur]
  [AVALON] Re: avalon-digest V9 #30      [Bruce MacQueen <macq5@comcast.net>]
  RE: [AVALON] Silly Australian Interview  ["Theresa Fagan" <tfagan@neo.rr.c]
  Re: [AVALON] Silly Australian Interview  ["s clarke" <mercury3@webone.com.]
  [AVALON] all the silly people, where do they all come from  [Colleen Matan]
  Re: [AVALON] all the silly people, where do they all come from  [DEAGLERR@]
  Re: [AVALON] all the silly people, where do they all come from  [DEAGLERR@]
  Re: [AVALON] all the silly people, where do they all come from  ["Paula Br]
  [AVALON] Re: Taboo                                      [Avalon887@aol.com]

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Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 10:37:34 +0100
From: "Anton van Lammeren" <avl@dds.nl>
Subject: RE: [AVALON] it was the best of times, it was the worst of  times

Hi all,

This multimedia is still beyond most of us. I don't understand much of
it either, but perhaps some of you can listen to the sound on:
www.avl.dds.nl/Avalonia.htm


Tara, Anton.

some Old Roxy Follie: http://www.avl.dds.nl/roxymusic.htm
"Strange how that futuristic year 2000 is now in the distant past"

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Theresa Fagan
> Sent: woensdag 4 februari 2004 4:59
> To: avalon@smoe.org
> Subject: RE: [AVALON] it was the best of times, it was the worst of
> times
>
>
> Mostly "uh, erm, uh, oh really,<squirm>, heh heh..." almost
> couldn't get
> a word in edgewise!!!
>
> -----Original Message-----
>  DEAGLERR@aol.com
>
> Subject: Re: [AVALON] it was the best of times, it was the worst of
> times
>
>
> OK, I give up.
> what does Ferry say?
> after 1/2 hour of multimedia masturbation it still won't play on my
> machine.
> Regards R Deagle


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Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 02:12:29 -0800 (PST)
From: Joel Hurd <endofthelinejoel@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [AVALON] it was the worst of  times

- --- Bahi <bahi@macnet.co.uk> wrote:
> I haven't seen or heard Ferry subjected to anything like this
> recently. For viewers, it's a year's worth of cringe-inducing horror
> in 6 minutes and you should, in some senses, be nothing but thankful
> that you haven't watched it. On the other hand, it's interesting to
> see what happens when Ferry is interviewed by someone so oblivious to
> regular social etiquette and to the rather painful signs of alarm and
> tacit disapproval emanating from her interviewee. It must be a 
> relatively rare occurrence. Bryan has often seemed very good at 
> getting people to avoid certain subjects and certain questions - it's

> just something in his manner making it clear that a breach would be 
> unforgivable and treated as such. It's an admirable technique, 
> entirely and hopelessly defeated by the personality of the 'top NZ 
> designer'. 6 amazing minutes.

Ughhh. Whoever she is, she seemed determined to stamp her 'brash and
zany' personality all over the 'interview'. Fucking awful. Ferry sure
has some scary fans.

On the other hand, I couldn't help but find it interesting viewing,
the questions and comments were still as bland as ever "you're known
as the coolest man in britain" etc. etc., but the 'interview style'
was something new, that's for sure.

In summary: Aaaaaargh!

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Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 03:28:19 -0800 (PST)
From: Scotty <ascott146@yahoo.com>
Subject: [AVALON] Aussie articles

Hi everyone,
Apologies if these have been previously
submitted....a couple of articles from Australia.
Interesting - Bryan to go back to the studio when
he gets home. As far as the Nicole Kidman story
goes.....there must be a good publicist on the
tour!
Bye for now,
Scotty in Melbourne

http://entertainment.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4459,8580480%255E7484%255E%255Enbv,00.html

http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5478,8569144%255E10431,00.html



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Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 11:16:55 -0000
From: "Dave Taylor" <sales@carltonscreens.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [AVALON] New Book

- ----- Original Message -----
From: Bahi <bahi@macnet.co.uk>
> And here's a vaguely related link to an interview with Bryan's friend
> from University days Mark Lancaster, who shot This is Tomorrow (a
> programme about Hamilton and Ferry) a few years back. He notes the book
> and mentions Ferry in a paragraph quoted below.
>
> <http://www.warholstars.org/andywarhol/interview/mark/lancaster.html>

Does anyone have further info. about this programme re. Hamilton and Ferry ?

I'd be interested to learn more........

Dave.


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Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 08:30:54 -0500
From: "Caledonia Controls Inc." <caledoniaci@sympatico.ca>
Subject: [AVALON] Link

This link worked OK for me and opened in Windows Media Player format.

http://video.nzoom.com/winvideo_56k/0,,bryan_300104-holmes,00.html

John


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Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 08:30:55 EST
From: LottieStreeter2@cs.com
Subject: [AVALON] Silly Australian Interview

Theresa wrote :

> Mostly "uh, erm, uh, oh really,<squirm>, heh heh..." almost couldn't get
> a word in edgewise!!!

It was just silly. The female interviewer and her girlfriend had been Roxy 
fans in London in '73 when they were both about 13 years old , and would stalk 
and harass Bryan.  She described where his apartment was, and told him they 
would ring the buzzer, and he would "pick up the phone...and there was no one 
there".  So she said she and her friend must have been the inspiration for that 
line in "Street Life", and he said "of course...of course you were."  

And then they stalked him at EG Management, too. She described the offices 
and the receptionist, whom Bryan said had married Bryan Eno. The last thing she 
said was that Bryan had inspired her to go to art school, but when the art 
teachers didn't look like Bryan Ferry, she switched to fashion. And then she 
plugged her store in Sydney, and he obligingly albeit uncomfortably said "well, 
we'll have to have a look then."

It wasn't so much an interview as a demonstration of what it must be like to 
be a celebrity and have a typical conversation with a fawning fan.  Bryan 
aquitted himself very well, I thought.  He was patient and kind, and tried to stay 
engaged.

I think Bryan is funny because when he's uncomfortable he puts his hands up 
to his mouth, which in police interviews is a sign that the person is being 
deceptive.  So in his case I suppose it means "I'm being so polite but really I 
can't stand this!"  But you have to give him credit for his humility, not 
putting the fan in her place, or thinking he's better than other people. And he is 
empathetic, remembering when he himself was a fawning fan of Otis Redding or 
Bob Dylan, for example, and realizes if he had 5 minutes with his idol, he'd be 
hopelessly uncool, probably, too.  

You gotta love him.

Lottie


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Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 08:35:49 EST
From: Go2Sweeney@aol.com
Subject: [AVALON] Dream ticket

Roxy Music will be on Dream ticket on BBC6 on Feb. 9, 2004:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/6music/music/dream_ticket.shtml


Cheers,

Goodie


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Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 08:49:59 EST
From: KWil632057@aol.com
Subject: Re: [AVALON] Link

Pure genius!!!

Give that woman her own show...


J



In a message dated 04/02/2004 13:33:42 GMT Standard Time, 
caledoniaci@sympatico.ca writes:

> This link worked OK for me and opened in Windows Media Player format.
> 
> http://video.nzoom.com/winvideo_56k/0,,bryan_300104-holmes,00.html
> 
> John


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Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 14:59:54 +0100
From: "Anton van Lammeren" <avl@dds.nl>
Subject: RE: [AVALON] Silly Australian Interview

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-avalon@smoe.org
> [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org]On Behalf Of
> LottieStreeter2@cs.com
> Sent: woensdag 4 februari 2004 14:31
> To: avalon@smoe.org
> Subject: [AVALON] Silly Australian Interview
>
>
> Theresa wrote :
>
> > Mostly "uh, erm, uh, oh really,<squirm>, heh heh..."
> almost couldn't get
> > a word in edgewise!!!
>
> It was just silly. The female interviewer and her
> girlfriend had been Roxy fans in London in '73 when
> they were both about 13 years old , and would stalk
> and harass Bryan.
> She described where his apartment was, and told him they
> would ring the buzzer, and he would "pick up the
> phone...and there was no one there".  So she said she
> and her friend must have been the inspiration for that
> line in "Street Life", and he said "of course...of course
> you were."
>
> ...
>
> And he is empathetic, remembering when he himself was a
> fawning fan of Otis Redding or Bob Dylan, for example,
> and realizes if he had 5 minutes with his idol, he'd be
> hopelessly uncool, probably, too.
>
> You gotta love him.
>
> Lottie
>


From:
http://tvone.nzoom.com/programmes/holmes/story.html?story_about_the_sh
ow.inc

About Holmes

April 3 2004 marks the 15th anniversary of the Holmes programme making
it New Zealand's longest running news and current affairs programme.
For the past 15 years the Holmes Programme has sold itself as being a
"champion of the people", a voice for those who don't have a voice.

Some of the greatest political moments have been recorded live on the
Holmes Programme. We have taken our viewers through some of the great
political eras from Roger Douglas through to Jim Bolger and now Helen
Clark.

The Holmes programme's mission is to provide a day to day mix of
information and entertainment. We aim to break stories, deliver the
newsmakers and reflect the stories of the day both nationally and
internationally.

We want this our 15th year on air to be our best. We also want to get
out and about. Holmes has reporters and producers based in Auckland,
Wellington and Christchurch. We value your story ideas and your
feedback. If you want us to tell your story or if you have an idea for
a story pitch it to us!


;-)))  Tara, Anton.


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Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 15:29:41 +0100
From: Daniel Atterbom <daniel.atterbom@odata.se>
Subject: Re: [AVALON] Dream ticket

At 08.35 -0500 04-02-04, Go2Sweeney@aol.com wrote:
>Roxy Music will be on Dream ticket on BBC6 on Feb. 9, 2004:
>http://www.bbc.co.uk/6music/music/dream_ticket.shtml

I like the company:


Monday 09 February

Roxy Music
Human League
Sparks
Japan

Someone made an editorial decesion here.
- -- 

Daniel


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Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 09:55:50 EST
From: Go2Sweeney@aol.com
Subject: Re: [AVALON] Dream ticket

In a message dated 04/02/2004 14:38:53 GMT Standard Time, 
daniel.atterbom@odata.se writes:

> I like the company:
> 
> 
> Monday 09 February
> 
> Roxy Music
> Human League
> Sparks
> Japan
> 

Let's only hope it will be early Human League rather than their later output!
Cheers,

Goodie


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Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2004 10:16:29 -0500
From: KB Porter <kbporte@attglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [AVALON] it was the best of times, it was the worst oftimes

It Was Stunning!!!

Granted, not the usual professionally conducted interview
that we've all come to expect, but it was very interesting
to watch Ferry's management of the event.

He did not control the flow of the discussion, it was more
discussion than it was interview.  BF did quite well with
'Ms. Ramrod', a most obnoxious 'interviewer'.  He's only
fortunate that she didn't offer him sex while on camera (or,
indeed, decades ago as she spied on him at home).  Still,
the interview was entertaining, and Mr. Ferry faired very
well.

I thought his comment 'you were looking through your
binoculars, no doubt' was very funny as she prattled on
about the 'postage stamp' hanging in his office which she so
coveted but was never able to obtain.

Head 'em up.
Move 'em out.

Best wishes.   KBP


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Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 07:33:04 -0800 (PST)
From: Joel Hurd <endofthelinejoel@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [AVALON] it was the best of times, it was the worst oftimes

> I thought his comment 'you were looking through your
> binoculars, no doubt' was very funny as she prattled on
> about the 'postage stamp' hanging in his office which she so
> coveted but was never able to obtain.

Hah ha. Yes indeed.

And maybe this 'interview' will stick in Ferry's mind such that it
does indeed inspire him to write some (more?) lyrics about her. Then at
least her suggestion that Street Life was a reference to her would be
half 
right! That's one lady he couldn't romanticize in song.

:)


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Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2004 11:24:02 -0500
From: Bruce MacQueen <macq5@comcast.net>
Subject: [AVALON] Re: avalon-digest V9 #30

*That* was unbelievable! Like a bad accident. You coldn't avert your eyes!!
How a producer would allow that to pass as an interview, let alone be 
aired on t.v. is beyond me.
This woman was completely oblivious to anything except prattling on 
about her 30 yrear old belief that her schoolgirl prank phone calls to 
Bryan were the genesis for the lyrics to Street Life. Then she asked him 
to sing it for her!!!!  What a cringe-fest!!!

It brought to mind Bill Murray's line in Lost in Translation when asked 
if he drank... "I will after this!"

Best Regards,
Bruce

avalon-digest wrote:

>Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2004 19:42:40 -0500 (EST)
>From: Colleen Matan <cjem@his.com>
>Subject: [AVALON] it was the best of times, it was the worst of times
>
>This from a friend in New Zealand:
>
>  
>
>> Also, is this the worst interview Mr Ferry has ever had to
>> endure? (click the "Top NZ designer talks to Bryan Ferry")
>> link here;
>>
>> http://tvone.nzoom.com/programmes/holmes/
>>    
>>
>
>I can't get it to work myself...
>
>Colleen
>
>  
>
>  
>
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Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 18:45:19 -0500
From: "Theresa Fagan" <tfagan@neo.rr.com>
Subject: RE: [AVALON] Silly Australian Interview

What about inspiring "Wish everybody would leave me alone, yeah..."?

- -----Original Message-----
LottieStreeter2@cs.com

It was just silly. The female interviewer and her girlfriend had been
Roxy 
fans in London in '73 when they were both about 13 years old , and would
stalk 
and harass Bryan.  She described where his apartment was, and told him
they 
would ring the buzzer, and he would "pick up the phone...and there was
no one 
there".  So she said she and her friend must have been the inspiration
for that 
line in "Street Life", and he said "of course...of course you were."  


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Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2004 11:11:03 +1100
From: "s clarke" <mercury3@webone.com.au>
Subject: Re: [AVALON] Silly Australian Interview

why silly australian interview?
why not silly new zealander interview?


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Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 19:44:19 -0500 (EST)
From: Colleen Matan <cjem@his.com>
Subject: [AVALON] all the silly people, where do they all come from

On Thu, 5 Feb 2004, s clarke wrote:

> why silly australian interview?
> why not silly new zealander interview?

Technically it's a silly British interview(er), so let's call off the war.


On Wed, 4 Feb 2004, Bahi wrote:

> I haven't seen or heard Ferry subjected to anything like this recently.
> For viewers, it's a year's worth of cringe-inducing horror in 6 minutes
> and you should, in some senses, be nothing but thankful that you
> haven't watched it. On the other hand, it's interesting to see what
> happens when Ferry is interviewed by someone so oblivious to regular
> social etiquette and to the rather painful signs of alarm and tacit
> disapproval emanating from her interviewee. It must be a relatively
> rare occurrence. Bryan has often seemed very good at getting people to
> avoid certain subjects and certain questions - it's just something in
> his manner making it clear that a breach would be unforgivable and
> treated as such. It's an admirable technique, entirely and hopelessly
> defeated by the personality of the 'top NZ designer'. 6 amazing
> minutes.

I've heard it and I've seen it, but I've not heard it with the video, and
for that I am extremely grateful.  I heard it first, and I have to say
that I was sure that she was, well, blonde.  It was only when I saw the
video that I saw that Mr. Ferry was not merely humoring her like a child
(which is what his "hmmmmm?"s sound like minus his staring into space.

On the other hand, in the hands of some other performer, this interview
could have been truly hilarious.*

Colleen
*in the good way.


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Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 23:17:19 EST
From: DEAGLERR@aol.com
Subject: Re: [AVALON] all the silly people, where do they all come from

cjem@his.com writes:
> I heard it first, and I have to say
> that I was sure that she was, well, blonde.
> 
This CREATURE would be make the stereotypical blonde bimbo cringe.
I am so glad I wasn't able to see it, hearing it was enough trauma.
- -----------------
Any news about Mr. Green?
- -------------------
Thanks to all who sent me info on The Gas Board.
Now an even more arcane request.
What sort of Ceramics classes did BF teach at that girl's school while 
writing & waiting for Roxy to flower?
Is he a wheel thrower, a hand builder, or a dreaded "paint forms made from 
molds" sort of guy?
Apparently he showed work during this period, I'm assuming not only 
paintings, but the pottery he was making.
And... anyone got a line on the image of Bryan's much mentioned "Virginia 
Plain" Painting?
(VP as a person, a product and a place.)
This came up sometime past, but no image was forthcoming.
Regards R Deagle


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Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 23:19:24 EST
From: DEAGLERR@aol.com
Subject: Re: [AVALON] all the silly people, where do they all come from

cjem@his.com writes:
> I heard it first, and I have to say
> that I was sure that she was, well, blonde.
> 
This CREATURE would be make the stereotypical blonde bimbo cringe.
I am so glad I wasn't able to see it, hearing it was enough trauma.
- -----------------
Any news about Mr. Green?
- -------------------
Thanks to all who sent me info on The Gas Board.
Now an even more arcane request.
What sort of Ceramics classes did BF teach at that girl's school while 
writing & waiting for Roxy to flower?
Is he a wheel thrower, a hand builder, or a dreaded "paint forms made from 
molds" sort of guy?
Apparently he showed work during this period, I'm assuming not only 
paintings, but the pottery he was making.
And... anyone got a line on the image of Bryan's much mentioned "Virginia 
Plain" Painting?
(VP as a person, a product and a place.)
This came up sometime past, but no image was forthcoming.
Regards R Deagle


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Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2004 22:27:05 -0600
From: "Paula Brown" <lostribe@msn.com>
Subject: Re: [AVALON] all the silly people, where do they all come from

>Is he a wheel thrower, a hand builder, or a dreaded "paint forms made from
molds" sort of guy?
Apparently he showed work during this period, I'm assuming not only
paintings, but the pottery he was making.<



There is a table full of his pottery in the September '91 Vogue.  I don't have
that particular photo scanned in and at the ready, but I will try to do so
soon so you can at least have a peek at his handiwork.  I would describe it as
whimsicle.

Paula


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Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2004 00:22:12 EST
From: Avalon887@aol.com
Subject: [AVALON] Re: Taboo

Hi I just returned from the theater in NYC; saw "Taboo" the story of Boy 
George's life in the 80s. It didn't do so well here in the city; glad I saw it 
before its closing this Sunday. He's in it but plays the character Leigh Bowery 
and another actor plays Boy George. It was very enjoyable; lots of good music 
(all written by George) and sensational costumes.  My reason for writing this 
is to share this little tidbit:  George is talking about the club Taboo and 
musicians who played there and he says,
"....Mick Jagger and Bryan Ferry..."  how exciting is that?

Regards to all, Eileen in Kew Gardens   


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