From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V9 #25 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Friday, January 30 2004 Volume 09 : Number 025 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [AVALON] Norfolk and good... [Daniel Atterbom ] Re: [AVALON] Norfolk and good... [KB Porter ] [AVALON] All new Tour dates online!! [KWil632057@aol.com] [AVALON] All new Tour dates online!! [Daniel Atterbom ] Re: [AVALON] Boring Bryan? [Daniel Atterbom ] [AVALON] from my bryan ferry news clipper ["Theresa Fagan" ] [AVALON] BF shows ["Tracy Connell" ] To leave the list, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon-digest ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 12:34:13 +0100 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: Re: [AVALON] Norfolk and good... At 21.15 -0500 04-01-28, KWil632057@aol.com wrote: >Hooray! New tour dates... > >Anyone else thinks he's flogging a dead horse? He's making a living out of giving concerts, something he told me when we spoke 2002 that the re-union tour resparked an intrest in and a liking for. I am one that did not like ATGB as much as Frantic. Do I want a new Ferry album? Yes. But I want mr Ferry to be happy. How many other 59 year old gentlemen are out there giving good concerts? The man have more songs to perform then one concert can contain. - -- Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 06:53:27 EST From: Go2Sweeney@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Norfolk and good... In a message dated 29/01/2004 11:49:33 GMT Standard Time, daniel.atterbom@odata.se writes: > How many other 59 > year old gentlemen are out there giving good concerts? The man have > more songs to perform then one concert can contain. > Unfortunately, he does not perform the songs. The setlists appear to me always to be very similar. Cheers, Goodie ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 13:28:48 +0100 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: Re: [AVALON] Norfolk and good... At 06.53 -0500 04-01-29, Go2Sweeney@aol.com wrote: >Unfortunately, he does not perform the songs. The setlists appear to >me always to be very similar. True, I'd settle for a 1976 or a 1983 Roxy setlist. I quite liked the 2001 Roxy setlist, but I am not as much of Ferry fan as I am a Roxy fan. But Ferry's 80's albums and Mamouna are quite good imho. - -- Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 08:33:49 -0500 From: "Arnold Schulberg" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Norfolk and good... Sorry, folks, but with no new album on the horizon, I fear that our Mr. Ferry is heading for the Steve Miller/Jimmy Buffett circuit. Folks in the States who live near "shed" venues will know what I mean. Arnie - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org]On Behalf Of Daniel Atterbom Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 6:34 AM To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: Re: [AVALON] Norfolk and good... At 21.15 -0500 04-01-28, KWil632057@aol.com wrote: >Hooray! New tour dates... > >Anyone else thinks he's flogging a dead horse? He's making a living out of giving concerts, something he told me when we spoke 2002 that the re-union tour resparked an intrest in and a liking for. I am one that did not like ATGB as much as Frantic. Do I want a new Ferry album? Yes. But I want mr Ferry to be happy. How many other 59 year old gentlemen are out there giving good concerts? The man have more songs to perform then one concert can contain. - -- Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 08:43:53 -0500 From: "Arnold Schulberg" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Norfolk and good... And I was quite disappointed with the Aberdeen concert. Apparently it is now quite the thing for the crowd to sing along on the "greatest hits". How soon til Bryan drops out a verse so the crowd can hear itself and then he can yell out, "C'mon, you can do better than that"? Arnie, who's going to pull out the Wolverhampton gig with Robin Trower right now and listen to it. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org]On Behalf Of Go2Sweeney@aol.com Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 6:53 AM To: daniel.atterbom@odata.se; avalon@smoe.org Subject: Re: [AVALON] Norfolk and good... In a message dated 29/01/2004 11:49:33 GMT Standard Time, daniel.atterbom@odata.se writes: > How many other 59 > year old gentlemen are out there giving good concerts? The man have > more songs to perform then one concert can contain. > Unfortunately, he does not perform the songs. The setlists appear to me always to be very similar. Cheers, Goodie ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 08:55:06 -0500 From: KB Porter Subject: [AVALON] Rescue Me News: "FX Places Signs Up for 13 Episodes of 'Rescue Me,' a One-Hour Drama Starring Denis Leary". I wonder if the Fontella Bass or Bryan Ferry version of 'Rescue Me' will be utilized... (Anyone remember 'The Job'? ... 'All my friends drive low-riders...'). Bet this new series is decent (but not without some 'moral decay' and obscene language, of course). Stay tuned, next commercial to air later. Best wishes. KBP ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 09:06:04 -0500 From: KB Porter Subject: Re: [AVALON] Norfolk and good... "Hooray! New tour dates... Anyone else thinks he's flogging a dead horse?" I suppose the three month break (March - May) is slated for 'the "new" album's production'? Of, the joy of it all! Where Does He Find The Time??? KBP PS. Daniel, thanks for the 'furry' info! ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 10:33:16 EST From: KWil632057@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] All new Tour dates online!! Comprehensive news on the flogging of dead horses has just gone up at... www.vivaroxymusic.com Now...where's my credit card.... ;0) J ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 17:03:17 +0100 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: [AVALON] All new Tour dates online!! I think you are unfair to Mr Ferry. Should he make another album? Of course, but with the rate of 6 solo albums (two of them covers) since 1985 (Boys And Girls, 1987 Bjte Noire, 1993 Taxi, 1994 Mamouna, 1999 As Time Goes By and 2002 Frantic) that's a pretty slow pace. It's nice that he supports Forestry Commission venues in England. - -- Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 11:04:42 -0500 From: "Theresa Fagan" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Bryan in June (the text) Bryan Ferry signs up for forest ISABEL COCKAYNE 29 January 2004 14:13 Seventies icon Bryan Ferry has signed up for an open-air concert in Norfolk. Former front man for Roxy Music, the band renowned for pushing the boundaries of rock music, Ferry will be on stage at Thetford Forest Park on Saturday June 12 as part of a nationwide tour. Last week the EDP revealed that glamorous chart-toppers the Sugababes and New York blues-rockers the Fun Lovin' Criminals will be headlining this summer's concerts at High Lodge. There is another act due to confirm a visit to the forest on June 13, clinching one of the Forestry Commission's most exciting musical line-ups. Tickets for the Sugababes, who will play on July 31, and Fun Lovin' Criminals, playing the next day, August 1, are set to go on sale on February 2. Bryan Ferry is visiting as part of a larger tour of Forestry Commission venues, including Sherwood Forest in Nottinghamshire. Best known for Roxy Music songs, Virginia Plain and Love is a Drug, and solo work Let's Stick Together, Bryan Ferry is a singer/songwriter who has influenced many bands. Although Roxy Music folded in 1982 after ten years, its legacy was to influence musicians genres from new romantics to dance, such as Radiohead, Moby, Suede and Pulp. Giles Brockman, district forester at the Forestry Commission, said: Every year we try to find new and exciting acts to perform and this year's programme already boasts some top names. I'm sure music lovers will have a great time at the shows. Tickets can only be bought from from the Forestry Commission ticket hotline on 01842 814612. ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 11:40:29 EST From: KWil632057@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Boring Bryan? (Was All new tour dates online) Hardly. He's not the kind of artist who should be relying as heavily as he does now on past glories. Simple as that. Yes, he has realeased albums at a slow pace but time waits for no man and if he musically has anything left to say he really should get himself into gear (not a drug reference). However. If he must tour then lets have a bit of a change to the set list incliuding some or unreleased material (a preview of something forthcoming?) rather than the 'set list in stone' itinery of this tour. It's lovely that he supports Forestry Commission venues, I'm sure he's nice to small children and generously tips his tailor, however this is of little consequence really. He could do a show in the Amazon Rainforest to benefit the lesser spotted Moncur, but what we (and he) really needs is a half decent album. Neatness In Pop, J I think you are unfair to Mr Ferry. Should he make another album? Of course, but with the rate of 6 solo albums (two of them covers) since 1985 (Boys And Girls, 1987 Bjte Noire, 1993 Taxi, 1994 Mamouna, 1999 As Time Goes By and 2002 Frantic) that's a pretty slow pace. It's nice that he supports Forestry Commission venues in England. ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 12:20:28 EST From: Jocelynfiske@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Bryan in June (the text) > Bryan Ferry is visiting as part of a larger tour of Forestry Commission > venues, including Sherwood Forest in Nottinghamshire. > > Well, if he's performing in green tights and a feather in his cap, I may put > aside my "greatest hits ennui" and go and check if it's a dafter look than > the Goucho outfit. By the way, does anyone know who maid Marion? The Sheriff of Byker ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 12:24:00 EST From: KWil632057@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Bryan in June (the text) As long as we don't get a glimpse of Little John... J In a message dated 29/01/2004 17:22:06 GMT Standard Time, Jocelynfiske@aol.com writes: > >Bryan Ferry is visiting as part of a larger tour of Forestry Commission > >venues, including Sherwood Forest in Nottinghamshire. > > > >Well, if he's performing in green tights and a feather in his cap, I may > put > >aside my "greatest hits ennui" and go and check if it's a dafter look than > >the Goucho outfit. By the way, does anyone know who maid Marion? > > The Sheriff of Byker ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 15:25:11 -0500 From: "Arnold Schulberg" Subject: [AVALON] Pardon the Interruption Duarte- I have tried responding to your e-mail twice and both times the reply was bounced. Please try me again. Arnie Now back to our regularly scheduled discussion. ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 12:35:59 -0800 (PST) From: Joel Hurd Subject: Re: [AVALON] Boring Bryan? - --- KWil632057@aol.com wrote: > Hardly. He's not the kind of artist who should be relying as heavily > as he does now on past glories. Simple as that. Well said. > Yes, he has released albums at a slow pace but time waits for no man > and if he musically has anything left to say he really should get > himself into gear. And again, that's exactly what I was thinking. . __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/ ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 22:08:33 +0100 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: Re: [AVALON] Boring Bryan? Ok, what do you want from Mr Ferry? He's done some of the most intresting albums from the last 30 years, the last one in my book was ten years ago. Very few brits born in the 40's make music that moves me in any shape or form these days. If he calls it quit nopw, he's done more then we have the right to expect imho. - -- Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 18:21:33 -0500 From: "Theresa Fagan" Subject: [AVALON] from my bryan ferry news clipper No Doubt's Kanal Reworks '80s Cuts for Sandler By Melinda Newman LOS ANGELES (Billboard) - While No Doubt takes a brief hiatus to work on various projects, bassist Tony Kanal has just completed work on music for Adam Sandler's new movie, "50 First Dates." "The soundtrack is all '80s songs done reggae style," says Kanal, who produced three tracks. "I did the Psychedelic Furs' 'Ghost in You' with Mark McGrath singing, 'Hold Me Now' by the Thompson Twins with Wayne Wonder singing, and then I did Bryan Ferry's 'Slave to Love' with Elan singing." Kanal is also working on Elan's album. Wonder's tune will be the first single from the Maverick Records soundtrack, which goes on sale Feb. 3. The movie opens Feb. 13. ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 19:34:37 EST From: KWil632057@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Boring Bryan? Well David Bowie manages to record a new and interesting album every couple of years and then tours it with shows that while feature plenty of well worn hits also contain ever changing set lists and plenty of surprises. Ferry on the other hand give us a new album almost every decade and is now into his fifth consquetive year touring with fairly minimal changes to the set list. Its a waste of talent and he should bloody well pull his finger out. We, after all, pay his wages! J In a message dated 29/01/2004 23:50:30 GMT Standard Time, daniel.atterbom@odata.se writes: > Ok, what do you want from Mr Ferry? He's done some of the most > intresting albums from the last 30 years, the last one in my book was > ten years ago. Very few brits born in the 40's make music that moves > me in any shape or form these days. If he calls it quit nopw, he's > done more then we have the right to expect imho. > -- > > Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 21:59:44 -0500 (EST) From: Colleen Matan Subject: [AVALON] and I haven't got time for the waiting game I probably have a long post about this subject somewhere inside me, but I'm too wiped out by the events of this week to go on at length (oh hush, I can hear your sighs of relief), so I'll offer this only: I think we're being too hard on Mr. Ferry. A career, even one you love, which spans 4 decades can be a burden that only the bearer can truly feel. And when the primary activity demanded is writing, and intense pressure and scrutiny is applied, the result can be paralysis and the attendant desire to do what is familiar, and comforting, and comfortable. (Ask me how I know.) Yes, it'd be wonderful to hear something new from Mr. Ferry on disk, especially as so much of _Frantic_, and _Alphaville_ before it, showed so much promise. But maybe there is no life on Mars, y'know? Colleen p.s. For it's a long, long time from May to December And the days grow short when you reach September And the Autumn weather Turns the leaves to flame And I haven't got time For the waiting game And the days dwindle down to a precious few September November And these few precious days I'd spend with you These golden days I'd spend with you When you meet with the young man early in Spring They court you in song and rhyme They woo you with words and a clover ring But if you examine the goods they bring They have little to offer but the songs they sing And a plentiful waste of time of day A plentiful waste of time ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 01:37:20 EST From: DEAGLERR@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] from my bryan ferry news clipper While I'm happy that Mr. Ferry will get a few bucks off having his song covered, I probably will not see the film, or buy the cover as I hate and LOATHE both Adam Sandler & No Doubt. As to the BORING BRYAN THREAD... Is that all this list has become, yet again, a BF bitch session? Yes, I'd like to hear more, yes I gripe about his output, the set-list, etc., but ...what is the result? The only way we can MAKE Mr. Ferry do what we want is to kidnap him and make him write/record/perform/pick new girlfriends at gunpoint. (A la John Waters' Eat Your Make-Up) Even then certain list members would gripe because THEY weren't calling the shots. (or weren't the future Ex Mrs. Ferry, or whatever) We are fans of Mr. Ferry because of what he does, has done or has not done. Otherwise we might as well be fans of say... No Doubt or Rod Stewart or.... I was out of town last week & did not comment on the perfect BF/RM moment. As with some other list members I'd have to pick A Song For Europe. The echt moment for me is where Mr. Ferry channels Charles Aznevour, & starts singing in French & whistling. Tous ces moments Perdus dans l`enchantement Qui ne reviendront Jamais Pas d'aujourd'hui pour nous Pour nous il n'y a rien A partager Sauf le passi Porquoi you might ask? Here BF is simultaneously serious and campy, taking an out of favor music style & using it for his own purposes. Since the song is about Europe, I.E., Paris (& Venice), his choice of French makes sense thematically he takes us from modern 70s Britain to an older more elegant, exotic if somewhat faded scene. Dead serious profound and winkingly banal he croons for lost amour while the music builds to a perhaps overblown end. In otherwords All the facets of RM that made them so special to begin with. Next time is the best time. Regards R Deagle ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 09:43:57 +0100 From: Ernesto Subject: [AVALON] ferry aberdeen after a week i consider my side of the weed closed. kenneth is the non burner and look out for stepehn to re weed (if necesary) ciao ernest ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 08:53:20 +0000 From: "Tracy Connell" Subject: [AVALON] BF shows Ok, just need to get a little gripe out of my system... Everyone seems to be slating BF for doing the same old set list and 'relying on his past hits' etc. Yes, we all want some new stuff - that would be fantastic, but I think we should count ourselves lucky that we can go and see him live in concert!! I don't really care what he sings (well, apart from 'Slave to Love' being a must!) Come on folks - no more complaining! Just enjoy the concerts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Tracy _________________________________________________________________ Use MSN Messenger to send music and pics to your friends http://www.msn.co.uk/messenger ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V9 #25 *************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest