From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V9 #11 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Friday, January 16 2004 Volume 09 : Number 011 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [AVALON] Bryan Ferry Concert Photos Aberdeen - 16-11-03 ["Colette Roberts] [AVALON] Roxy Bryanised ["Carien Overdijk" ] [AVALON] Old lightbulb joke [Chandla911@aol.com] [AVALON] Willpower [KB Porter ] Re: [AVALON] Roxy Bryanised [Daniel Atterbom ] Re: [AVALON] Old lightbulb joke [Daniel Atterbom ] [AVALON] Re: Ferry's Willpower & staying power [MarlanaK@webtv.net (M.M.K] [AVALON] Re: Willpower [MarlanaK@webtv.net (M.M.K.)] [AVALON] Bryan Ferry Aberdeen Nov. 16, 2003 - UK Weed ["Tracy Elliott" ] Re: [AVALON] Willpower [Daniel Atterbom ] Re: [AVALON] Willpower or (will to power) [Daniel Atterbom ] To leave the list, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon-digest ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 12:10:49 -0000 From: "Colette Robertson" Subject: [AVALON] Bryan Ferry Concert Photos Aberdeen - 16-11-03 I finally added the Aberdeen concert to the album page. http://uk.f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/roxygal1959 Cheers, Colette ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 13:12:02 +0100 From: "Carien Overdijk" Subject: [AVALON] Roxy Bryanised Right, 2HB! When suggesting that Casanova was the only Roxytrack that was Bryanised in the studio, I was typing two floors above my record-collection and too lazy to go down and get a look, although I had a faint idea that there were more doubles. I only now realise that a good deal of Let's Stick Together (LST) was a funky make-over of Roxystuff. It proves that Bry definitely meant his two careers to merge. (Personally, I prefer the Roxyversions to the LST-ones...) Carien ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 09:42:45 -0500 From: Chandla911@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Old lightbulb joke Daniel wrote: "Bryan Ferry said when I met him in the early 80's that he liked to change a person before recording a new album." But surely, like a lightbulb, the person has to want to be changed? Best wishes Richard Mills n/p Bring It Back - McAlmont & Butler ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 11:02:36 -0500 From: KB Porter Subject: [AVALON] Willpower First, thanks to all who responded to my last post - I've lots of things to consider given your comments. Akin to that discussion, I was wondering if other list members find the beginning of Bryan Ferry's career remarkable. I do, and ensuing are some of my comments: When I think of BF's background, that of a coal miner's son (OK, the son of a coal mine's pony caretaker), who's main introduction to the 'outside world' was via Hollywood's golden era movies and 'non mainstream' music, I am primarily struck by the vast contrast that must have been evident to Mr. Ferry regarding his 'real' environment and the other 'imaginary' environment which he garnered from the 'outside world'. Set in place, that was the perfect scenario creating the need to escape a dismal life and propel one's self toward a 'fantastic' lifestyle. His need must have been great. We know that BF attended art school for a while, taught briefly at a girl's school, then did (I may be wrong here) odd bits of work while writing lyrics, teaching himself to play keyboards, composing songs (I assume without any formal training in music theory and practice), and searching around for like-minded aspiring musicians to play with plus a producer to take their music public. At some point (I wonder where or when), BF determined that he would make his mark upon the world as a musician/songwriter - no small feet, IMO, that his goal was achieved (especially when one considers BF's 'shyness'). It seems to me that Mr. Ferry lifted himself out of the pits and into the limelight by sheer force of will and determination, of course, aided by bits of luck here and there. A 'self-fulfilling prophesy'? Could this be a small part of the 'conscious cosmic predetermination of importance' that has been recently brought to our attention via Chris Turner? (BTW, I really am missing one of my dictionaries. And you are welcome, Richard, for the good use to which you put my Roget's :) I often wonder how strong, and in what direction, Bryan Ferry's will is today. Any ideas, comments, etc. from anyone? Best wishes. KBP ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 17:00:33 +0100 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: Re: [AVALON] Roxy Bryanised At 13.12 +0100 04-01-15, Carien Overdijk wrote: >When suggesting that Casanova was the only Roxytrack that was Bryanised in the >studio, I was typing two floors above my record-collection and too lazy to go >down and get a look, although I had a faint idea that there were more doubles. >I only now realise that a good deal of Let's Stick Together (LST) was a funky >make-over of Roxystuff. >It proves that Bry definitely meant his two careers to merge. >(Personally, I prefer the Roxyversions to the LST-ones...) LST was pieced together for the American market by using singles and an EP that Ferry recorded. With the exception of Casanova (which is said to be about Brian Eno), the alternative versions of Roxy songs were recorded prior to, and not for, LST if my memory serves me correct. They were there and could fill the album. The reason for Ferry recording them again in the first place was that he wanted to try them again -- without Eno I presume. - -- Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 17:00:42 +0100 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: Re: [AVALON] Old lightbulb joke At 09.42 -0500 04-01-15, Chandla911@aol.com wrote: >But surely, like a lightbulb, the person has to want to be changed? Well, the revolving door of bassplayers and other members switches were not always on a volunteer basis. - -- Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 11:33:19 -0500 From: KB Porter Subject: Re: [AVALON] Willpower "... no small feet, IMO,.." I reckon about a size twelve? ;) feet for feat - defeat of the feet. Sweet. KBP ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 10:33:15 -0600 (CST) From: MarlanaK@webtv.net (M.M.K.) Subject: [AVALON] Re: Ferry's Willpower & staying power Good points taken KBP. Anyone can & often do in a somewhat environment that is not really conducive to what you really want is to rise above it. Takes a lot of perseverance & some guts along with some talent. Ferry did it & IMO has somewhat had to live within the confines of the media reminding him of where he came from.----His marriage, his drive to never stop living the good life, the good schools for his boys. One has to see the stress or the reason to make Ferry tick. I imagine that now he's thinking where did it go wrong , what did I forfeit to really be where I am today? He can't help but fill bad about his failed marriage & what its done to his family. Did he not give enough of himself to home? So many facets that all add up to Bryan Ferry the good-looking singer-writer that has fans always wanting more. But is he in the state to give us more or will it be forever more of the usual? Comments anyone is most welcome. Always, Marlana ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 10:39:12 -0600 (CST) From: MarlanaK@webtv.net (M.M.K.) Subject: [AVALON] Re: Willpower The old saying, can tell a lot about a person by his shoes & my added one "the eyes". And we know Ferry has both excellent taste in shoe attire or any attire for that matter. Has the eyes too. Always, Marlana ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 18:01:08 -0000 From: "Tracy Elliott" Subject: [AVALON] Bryan Ferry Aberdeen Nov. 16, 2003 - UK Weed Thanks to Goodie, I now have the above disks to re-offer. I'll take 4 people (including one non-burning person) to carry on this weed and these will be listed in my next mail so that everyone else knows who are the next re-weeders. So, for the UK based people, don't be shy! Regards. T - --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.528 / Virus Database: 324 - Release Date: 16/10/2003 ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 13:49:39 EST From: DEAGLERR@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Willpower or (will to power) The part missing from Ms. Porter's history is Mr. Ferry's tenure with The Gas Board. As no recordings of that outfit exist (I know I'll be corrected if wrong) the usual description is it was a sort of soul-review cover-band, with our boy in the frontman spot. (keyboards at this point? One of this group will know.) This experience would have been the place where BF figured the "dream" was within grasp, or at least that the musician's life was fun and/or good for pulling in the dolly-birds. However, all the Welt als Wille, anyone could muster wouldn't have made for a career without SOME talent. Also those Hollywood screen-dreams of Luxe, Calme et Voluptee. (or more likely Rita Hayworth as Gilda on satin sheets, I.E., Kari-Anne) seem more & more key to me. You must admit that Roxy was just about the strangest mutant out there when they first dropped. And that strangeness of vision was all about the cinema in Bryan's head. (Bette Midler grew up as the only Jewish girl in Hawaii, watching those same old movies on TV. While it colored her outlook, & persona, her camp/ironic sensibility & lack of song writing ability, make her a decidedly different artist. There are probably other and better careers to reference.) As to BF's will today? Well, when you've been around what's left to do? As annoying to us back-seat career drivers as Ferry's choices are, Ferry has what some Christian dogmas call FREE WILL, I.E., he will do what he will do. (List readers will have heard this from me before) Would you have it any other way? If some of the suggestions from the list were followed he'd be a Bowie clone. Others would render him an Elton John manqee. (this list strips out accents) I'm glad he's not ENO, much as I admire him, who seems to have thrown a considerable gift away. I for one am glad BF's not any of those (especially Ms. Elton). And at least he's working. Like many of his generation & fame he could sit home & gain weight, snort coke & chase nymphets. (Well, two out of three ain't bad.) Regards, R Deagle BTW, Rita Heyworth said the problem with her marriages was that all her husbands married Gilda, but woke up with Rita Hayworth. ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 22:45:45 +0100 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: Re: [AVALON] Willpower At 11.02 -0500 04-01-15, KB Porter wrote: >I often wonder how strong, and in what direction, Bryan >Ferry's will is today. He's amazed that people are still intrested in him. Ian Hunter and Paul Rodgers do not get much ink or sales these days, do they? - -- Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 22:49:44 +0100 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: Re: [AVALON] Willpower At 11.33 -0500 04-01-15, KB Porter wrote: >feet for feat - defeat of the feet. Sweet. It's the same joke as in the band name Little Feat. - -- Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 22:51:26 +0100 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: Re: [AVALON] Willpower or (will to power) At 13.49 -0500 04-01-15, DEAGLERR@aol.com wrote: >The part missing from Ms. Porter's history is Mr. Ferry's tenure with The Gas >Board. >As no recordings of that outfit exist (I know I'll be corrected if wrong) the >usual description is it was a sort of soul-review cover-band, with our boy in >the frontman spot. (keyboards at this point? One of this group will know.) I do not believe that Mr Ferry was the frontman of The Gas Board as in Mr Plant being the frontman of Led Zep. - -- Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 17:48:42 EST From: Go2Sweeney@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Willpower In a message dated 15/01/2004 21:50:36 GMT Standard Time, daniel.atterbom@odata.se writes: > He's amazed that people are still intrested in him. Ian Hunter and > Paul Rodgers do not get much ink or sales these days, do they? > But that doesn't mean their music isn't good, does it? The record-buying public is changing and not really that interested in brilliant output. The best album of 2003 was ignored by the general public, so I am not really surprised. All people nowadays seem to want is good looks and a "show". No wonder David Bowie is so popular, but in my opinion he is really not quite as good as some of the ignored geniuses. It's all relative. I will keep on buying the music I like and not what is "popular". But I guess I'm in the minority, people are usually taken in by a pretty face. Cheers, Goodie ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 20:57:20 -0500 From: Helen Thorpe Subject: [AVALON] Re: avalon-digest V9 #10 If its a really, really dark green - it's nothing special. Canadian disk-pressing outfits used a lot of recycled vinyl. It wasn't unusual to find your new album on either dark green or dark grey vinyl. However, if it's a nice Forest Green colour - I have no idea! TTYL, and back to my lurking H (Hibernating in Hamilton, Ontario - with -25C weather!) ODate: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 11:01:39 +0100 > From: "Sjaak Versluis" > Subject: [AVALON] Avalon > > LeegI found a Canadian copy of Avalon on dark-green vinyl. > I never seen it or heard about it before. > Does somebody has more info? > > Sjaak ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V9 #11 *************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest