From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V8 #339 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Thursday, December 11 2003 Volume 08 : Number 339 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [AVALON] Re: Seal/Ferry ["Linda Epstein" ] RE: [AVALON] Re: Scott Walker ["Arnold Schulberg" Subject: [AVALON] Re: Seal/Ferry So- does he do Future Love Paradise? I'm seeing him this Saturday at the 9:30 Club in DC. I'd be most pleased to hear him do Don't Stop the Dance- did he botch it or was it ok? Linda ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 12:29:04 -0500 From: "Arnold Schulberg" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Re: Scott Walker Anyone want to take "Looking Back with Scott Walker" off my hands? I'll make you a good deal. Arnie - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org]On Behalf Of Heather Marie Buch Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 7:54 AM To: SIMON GALLOWAY Cc: avalon@smoe.org Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: Scott Walker Hi, On Sun, 7 Dec 2003, SIMON GALLOWAY wrote: > I've been listening a lot to Scott Walker (and the Walker Brothers) > recently, rediscovering those first four solo albums (Scott 4 is the best > one to start with) and trying to get to grips with Tilt and Climate Of > Hunter (I'm slowly getting there). I've also just read a great biography > called A Deep Shade Of Blue which covers his life and career just prior to > the release of Tilt. You and me both. I just bought Scott Walker 4 today and am enjoying it. I like the supper-club atmosphere. I think Walker's is a biography that would be worth reading, like Ferry's. I love the fact that Walker "became" European, he adopted a set of characteristics based on a culture that fascinated him, part myth part reality. > > Walker is an acknowledged influence on many artists - Julian Cope, Marc > Almond, Bono, Jarvis Cocker, and undoubtedly an influence on David Bowie, > from early on in his career with the exploration of Jacques Brel, to the > more recent past, including a cover of Nite Flights and Bowie's increasingly > similar vocal style. Walker's Tilt and Bowie's Outside are very similar > works too. I was listening to Outside too with that in mind. Haven't gotten Tilt yet, but others say it is practically impenetrable. Another SW influence - Nick Cave, thinking of Henry's Dream or Let Love In. I definitely hear the Walker influence on Cocker. In fact I first learned about Scott Walker on the Pulp mailing list... > But listening to the classic 60s material, I wonder how much of an influence > Walker was on Ferry and Roxy? I've never heard Ferry talk about Scott > Walker, but it's obvious he is/was a fan, at the very least soaked up some > of Walker's European obsessions and influences. Definitely - Song for Europe. Also the way Ferry kind of modulates his voice (warbles?) is kind of Walker-esque, kind of gold-lame lounge singer. > > Just listen to Chance Meeting (especially the solo version), For Your > Pleasure, A Song For Europe, Bitter Sweet - Ferry's dramatic, resonant croon > closely echoes Walker's style. > Croon - perhaps that is better than warble. But it's not an American style croon. It's not Bing Crosby or Frank Sinatra. It's a European type of croon that Ferry and Walker have, in my opinion. > In the biography it mentions the sessions with Fripp, Eno and Daniel Lanois, > recorded at Phil Manzanera's studio. It was just after Eno and Lanois had > produced U2's Unforgettable Fire album. Walker was signed to Virgin records > mainly because of Eno's enthusiasm, and there had been talk of a > collaboration for several years leading up to those sessions (David Bowie > made an approach to produce Walker in the late 70s too). > > Before any vocals were laid down, Walker pulled out of the project, giving > the reasons that he didn't like Eno and Lanois' heavy use of programmed > synths, stating that the technology was driving the sessions. He also didn't > like Daniel Lanois because he looked like a gypsy! > Wow. Yeah Walker is supposed to be a real enigma. I hear he only ventures out of his London apartment occasionally to see a movie, etc. > To try and salvage something from the sessions, Virgin intended to release > the backing tracks as a Fripp/Eno album, but that was blocked. As far as I > know they remain unreleased, but Walker's then manager (Ed Bicknell) and the > head of A&R at Virgin (whose name I've forgotten) claimed it was some of the > most beautiful music they'd ever heard and were deeply disappointed at > Walker's decision to pull out. What a story! I am sure it is beautiful music. > I have "It's Raining Today" (Rhino). Thanks for the great information, Simon! Heather ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:22:04 EST From: KWil632057@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Ferry mentioned at comedy awards Joan Collins just said that Jonathan Ross looked 'Very Bryan Ferry' at the UK Comedy Awards. I think that was the look he was aiming for. The never popular Chris DeBurgh was there as well. J n/p 'Fat Bottomed Girls' Queen ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 00:43:03 +0000 (GMT) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Chris=20Turner?= Subject: [AVALON] Newsflash: KBPorter's dictionary stolen... Longtime Ferry collaborator (and University housemate I think) Nick de Ville has written a history of record cover art, simply called 'Album' (Published by Mitchell Beazley) Priced at an eye-watering #35, the tome offers the following thoughts about BF... (He was) 'a self-conscious persona surrounded by an already delineated constellation of signification' I'm sure I speak for many here when I say...huh...what? Chris ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 08:09:57 +0000 From: "Tracy Connell" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Newsflash: KBPorter's dictionary stolen... >(He was) 'a self-conscious persona surrounded by an already delineated >constellation of >signification' > >I'm sure I speak for many here when I say...huh...what? Well, he's got me on that one (and I have a degree in English)! Definitely a 'huh...what?' sort of thing!! Tracy _________________________________________________________________ Find a cheaper internet access deal - choose one to suit you. http://www.msn.co.uk/internetaccess ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V8 #339 **************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest