From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V8 #275 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Tuesday, September 30 2003 Volume 08 : Number 275 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [AVALON] Reality Check [KB Porter ] Re: [AVALON] Reality Check ["David Martin" ] [AVALON] Another Reason Why I Love BF's Solo Self-Penned Music... [KB Por] Re: [AVALON] Reality Check ["David Martin" ] [AVALON] College Textbook Mention of Eno ["Marcia Sexton" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Reality Check "but the Ian MacDonald thread was actually on topic." Agreed, Daniel, I did not consider this very sad news as 'off topic'. '"Better to light a single candle than curse the darkness"?' Pete, have you any comment on the second half of my post where I attempted to 'light a single candle'? Duncan, I was 'not offended' by your recent mention of Robert Palmer's death. As for my "endless intellectualising twaddle of your recent 'daylights' thread" at least that was on topic. "As for RM/BF I wasn't aware that much happened yesterday apart from the fact that it was Bryans birthday." HA! - And you tell me to "get real"? Enjoy Bonn! Now that I've got your collective attention, perhaps someone will be kind enough to offer insight to the following question: I am curious as to why Paul Thompson has never been considered a Roxy Music principle or founding member the way that BF, BE, PM, and AM are? Brian Eno stated in the Lester Bangs piece that Paul Thompson's drumming was the powerplant perfect for the band's need. So why has he been given second class membership and why was there ever any question about who would be the drummer for the Roxy Reunion 2001 tour? Best wishes, and testy as always. KBP PS. I don't remember where, but I last week I read something to the effect that Bill Murray's karaoke version to 'More Than This' was surprisingly good, soulful. ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 10:09:49 -0400 From: "David Martin" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Reality Check Naturally,because he refused to loose his accent or enter Saville Row. (Must have seen too many episodes of ' Are you being served ? ' ) Regards, DM - ----- Original Message ----- From: "KB Porter" I am curious as to why Paul Thompson has never > been considered a Roxy Music principle or founding member > the way that BF, BE, PM, and AM are? So why has he been > given second class membership and why was there ever any > question about who would be the drummer for the Roxy Reunion > 2001 tour? ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 10:13:12 -0400 From: KB Porter Subject: [AVALON] Another Reason Why I Love BF's Solo Self-Penned Music... ... It is notable not only for what sounds are employed constituting the music but also for what is not included. While many have stated a dislike for the intricate 'tapestry, painting effect' of Bryan Ferry's original solo post-Avalon work, it is the richness of this effect coupled with the absence of 'gratuitous' sound (or noise) that represents music composition at its best. True, he laid down fifty-plus tracks, for instance, in the creation of 'Mamouna' with the affect of a 'complete and atmospheric conveyance'. Listen carefully to the various sounds and you may become aware that the majority of those 50+ tracks contain very judicious and limited employment of sound - Ferry working for 'the exact effect' desired (And I do thank God for perfectionists.). How many artists can we name that are capable of attaining the pinnacle of 'perfect use of sound' utilizing dozens of tracks. Eno, perhaps? Refer to Susan S.'s comment about what particularly stood out in the Banks' article quoting Eno saying that it takes little time to learn the synth but many years to learn how not to use it. Truth in the pudding? Comments, anyone? KBP ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 12:11:29 -0400 From: "David Martin" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Reality Check You must be able to see me sitting at my computer in my Bath Robe! David, sometimes you really make me laugh! Thanks. KBP ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2003 18:55:20 -0700 From: "Marcia Sexton" Subject: [AVALON] College Textbook Mention of Eno My apologies for a topic dealing with Eno rather then Roxy Music proper. I saw the posting a couple of days ago alluding to the need to discuss the "off topics." Hope this helps. I took a class last winter on managing stress, and there was a mention of Eno in the textbook; I wrote to the author and received his enthusiastic permission to quote the section to Avalon Discussion Group. The book is "Managing Stress: Principles and Strategies for Health and Wellbeing" 3rd Edition, by Brian Like Seaward; Jones and Bartlett, publishers. ISBN: 0-7637-1462-3. Page 379 is in chapter 21, Music Therapy. "...Musicologists Andrew Watson and Nevill Drury trace the beginnings of New Age music to the 'psychedelic' counterculture period of the 1960's, when elements of rock, jazz, folk, Indian ragas, and meditative music were integrated to create repeated cycles of gentle "undulating sounds" for a relaxing effect. The band Pink Floyd is given credit for making this style of music popular with their "Meddle" album in which the entire second side, "Echos," is a single instrumental composition played on a synthesizer. The lineage of New Age musicians unfolded from Pink Floyd's inspirational work to include a collaborative effort by King Crimson's Robert Fripp and Roxy Music's Brian Eno entitled "Evening Star." Eno went on to record several albums, including "Music for Airports" and "Ambient Two," becoming a dominant force in the New Age genre. This style of music has now spread to all continents, giving rise to many other New Age and environmental musicians, including Kitaro (Japan), Andreas Vollenweider (Germany), Jean-Michel Jarre (France), Vangelis (Greece), Enya (Ireland), and Paul Horn, Philip Glass, Steven Halpern, David Lanz, and William Ackerman (North America), to name a few. Currently, sales of New Age CDs and radio programming of New Age selections suggest a growing interest in this style of music."... Phillip Glass was doing his thing well before Pink Floyd got together, but does anyone besides me feel that citing "Meddle" as a forerunner of Eno's stuff is a bit of a stretch? I find Pink Floyd's creation far more jarring than Eno's work. Opinions?
Marcia Sexton
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