From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V8 #247 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Tuesday, September 2 2003 Volume 08 : Number 247 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [AVALON] Olden but golden ["Nigel Hollis" ] [AVALON] Re: Thank you! [] [AVALON] Re: Approved [] [AVALON] Re: Wicked screensaver [] [AVALON] Re: Your application [] [AVALON] no need to panic [Colleen Matan ] [AVALON] This virus thing [Go2Sweeney@aol.com] [AVALON] The avalon virus - Run for the Hills!!! ["John Dillon" ] [AVALON] Re: Thank you! [] [AVALON] BT user ["frantic22" ] Re: [AVALON] no need to panic [Colleen Matan ] [AVALON] the worm ["Paula Brown" ] Re: [AVALON] the worm [Colleen Matan ] [AVALON] RE: [BFRM] restoring my pc ["John Dillon" Subject: [AVALON] Olden but golden The following is an article titled "Perfect Gentleman" in last weeks copy of the Spectator magazine :- On the rare occasions when I dip a tentative foot into the social whirl I always expect to regret it. In the old days I almost invariably got embarrassingly drunk, and in sobriety I find it damn near impossible to get into the party spirit. There is something about sparkling mineral water that puts a dreadful dampner on things. Was anyone ever witty on Perrier? But at least I no longer wake up in a panic at five in the morning with a dry mouth, a pounding heart and mortifying, if blurry, recollections of the night before. I suspect all reformed drunks have their own particular memories of appalling behaviour under the influence of alcohol that still bring them out in a cold sweat years after the event, and one of mine concerns Bryan Ferry, once memorably described as the " coolest living Englishman". The Daily Telegraph had taken a table at a ridiculously lavish, star-laden fund-raiser for the Royal Court. I think Madonna was there, and Mick Jagger, and the whole event was being sponsored, rather implausibly, by the terrifying ice-maiden Tina Brown, then in her Queen of Manhattan heyday as editor of the New Yorker. I`d written a mildly mocking preview piece about the bash, wondering what the Royal Court`s lefty playwrights would make of such a glitzy occasion, and when I was introduced to Ms Brown she regarded me as if I were something nasty she`d just trodden in. Worse still, the event had been organised by Nicholas Hytner`s mother, and I`d been rude about her too.My deputy editor was at the same table as Hytner, now director of the National Theatre, and he told her in no uncertain terms that he wanted to punch me on the nose. In those days when the going got tough, I got on the bottle, and with several litres of red wine on board I was bursting with boozy bonhomie. Spotting Ferry across the crowded room, looking as cool and immaculate as ever, I decided that what he really needed now was the benefit of my career advice. "Where did it all go wrong, Bryan? I slurred, bathed in sweat and with my vast belly bursting out of my too-tight dinner jacket trousers. Ferry looked modest and concerned, "I mean those first three terrific albums with Roxy Music, then the great comeback with Avalon, and since then overproduced dross. Since Ferry had somehow resisted the temptation of either telling me to sod off or kicking me in the balls, I blundered on. "I think your problem, Bryan, I added with horrid intimacy, "is that you`re too much of a perfectionist. All that time fiddling around in the studio, when what you really need to do is just get a few good tunes together and simply bash them out. I mean you did the first two Roxy albums in less than a year". Ferry smiled with sad tolerance and conceeded that perhaps I had a point. In fact, he couldn`t have been more charming, and after a few more minutes of offensively drunken babbling on my part, and heroic good manners on his, I sauntered cheerily away in the firm conviction that I`d done him a good turn. The memory has returned to haunt me again in recent weeks, because I`ve been listening to Roxy Music Live, a double CD set culled from their recent world tour, and it`s absolutely blinding. Most reunion tours are take the money and run affairs, but the musical standards here are incredibly high, with many of the songs sounding better in these new live versions than they did on the original albums thirty years ago. Roxy Music brilliantly married retro pop with futuristic electronis to create music that is still fabulously exciting, and eerily undated, today. And, my God the tunes were good. Has there ever been a more exuberantly fresh and original debut single than "Virginia Plain"? Or the more recklessly exciting debut album opener than "Re-make Re-Model"? Or a more brilliant pop portrayal of chilling decadence than "In Every Dream Home a Heartache", in which the narrator has fallen in love with his inflatable doll? Not in my book there hasn`t. And as well as full-on avant rock, there is also that lovely vein of wistful romantic melancholy in Ferry`s work, a worldly-wise, lounge lizard crooner who has seen it all yet somehow retains a touching vulnerability. There are twenty two songs on the new album, all but one of them written or co-written by Ferry and not a single dud among them. Phil Manzanera`s brilliantly versatile guitar playing and Andy Mackay`s wonderful work on sax, ranging from aching sadness to euphoric yelps, have never sounded better and Ferry is in tremendous voice throughout and clearly having the time of his life. The whole experience, to borrow from one of his own lyrics, is, "deluxe and delightful" and I cannot recommend the album too highly, even though it does make me feel more of a prat then ever. Charles Spencer (Theatre critic of the Daily Telegraph) A few of our own sentiments in there I think? Regards to all, Nigel. ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 10:40:21 +0100 From: Subject: [AVALON] Thank you! See the attached file for details [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type application/octet-stream which had a name of details.pif] ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 14:09:52 +0100 From: Subject: [AVALON] Re: Thank you! Please see the attached file for details. [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type application/octet-stream which had a name of thank_you.pif] ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 17:49:12 +0100 From: Subject: [AVALON] Re: Approved See the attached file for details [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type application/octet-stream which had a name of details.pif] ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 18:43:38 +0100 From: Subject: [AVALON] Re: Wicked screensaver Please see the attached file for details. [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type application/octet-stream which had a name of wicked_scr.scr] ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 19:04:39 +0100 From: Subject: [AVALON] Re: Your application Please see the attached file for details. [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type application/octet-stream which had a name of document_all.pif] ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 14:14:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Colleen Matan Subject: [AVALON] no need to panic First, what's happening is that someone on Avalon (using btopenworld.com) is infected so the messages with faked headers of people subbed to the list (you have to be subbed to the list to post to it) are getting through (stripped of the virus attachment). Let me repeat: the "To" lines are forged and the messages do not carry the infected attachment, so don't blame those folks and don't panic. Second, I am reconsidering my harsh assessment of the Roxy reunion and the possible-yet-only-rumored album of new material. Richard kindly sent me the Jones Beach and Radio City shows and I have to say that the band sounds great on the Radio City show (the only one I've had a chance to listen to so far), so now I'm thinking that maybe there's some creative life there yet (but I can't imagine what the new material would sound like--any ideas?). I don't know if it's because I haven't really been listening to any music over the last few months, but since I'm enjoying it, I'm not going to examine it any further! Please don't panic at my sudden change of heart: I'm relatively sure it's not a sign of the apocalypse. Hope all of the North Americans are enjoying the traditional good-bye to summer this weekend. Even though I missed the NY Roxy shows, I have to say it was a superb summer. Colleen ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 14:17:22 EDT From: Go2Sweeney@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] This virus thing I seem to be getting a lot of emails from Avalon members with "thank you" "your application" and "wicked screensaver" in the title. I presume this is the virus that is currently going around, and I will not read or open anything with that sort of thing in the title. I guess other members of this group are getting the same sort of of thing, and I would suggest none of you open these things. Cheers, Goodie ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 14:22:09 -0400 From: "John Dillon" Subject: [AVALON] The avalon virus - Run for the Hills!!! Hello all. I am also getting e-mail's from the Avalon list with addresses from Paula, Chris Turner ( Roxyrama ) and Pauline O'Keefe. Strangely this does not exactly mean that these letters originated from their mail boxes. As of lately some of the newer viruses can disguise where they have come from by borrowing names and extensions that they have gathered during their travels and then mixing and matching them on the fly as they move on. This is evidenced by receiving two separate letters from Paula: One from her Paula Brown moniker and then later from the actual losttribe@msn.com address. What is for sure is some one on the list is infected. Thankfully the Avalon server usually is 99.99999% capable of stripping off any attachments, usually a graphic, but also any infected attachments. It goes without saying: You simply must have a good Anti Virus Program up and running and it must be fully current / updated. Best for now John Dillon By the way...A Great Show at Radio City & great to meet everyone again. - ----- Original Message ----- From: Paula Brown To: bryanferryroxymusic yahoogroups Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 11:25 AM Subject: [BFRM] The avalon virus If you're on Avalon, you've seen the warnings already. I got something today that looked like it was from majordomo@smoe.org, Avalon's domain, and it said "Thank you" in the subject somewhere. I also got a "Thank You" from Roxyrama, and then I got a bunch of failed delivery messages with attachments where it tried but failed to use my address book, probably. If you see anything like that in your mail or junk mail, do NOT open it. Just delete it and then empty your trash. I am fairly sure my McAfee virus software,which is also on Hotmail, kept it from getting through, plus I didn't open it. But don't even open that stuff at all, even if there IS no visible attachment, because I don't know exactly how it works. The ones I got that said Thank You had no visible attachment, so it's possible they were smoe telling me there was somethign wrong with my email that failed to get delivered or something. But the failed deliveries had 100kb attachments. Paula Yahoo! Groups Sponsor To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: bryanferryroxymusic-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 21:15:53 +0200 From: Bahi Para Subject: Re: [AVALON] no need to panic Colleen Matan wrote: >so don't blame those folks and don't panic. John Dillon wrote: >lately some of the newer viruses can disguise where they have come >from by borrowing names and extensions that they have gathered I was really hoping that we were seeing an amusing roll-call of the carefree so the above came as a disappointment. (Good to hear +ve reports of the Radio City Roxy show, though.) ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 20:19:01 +0100 From: Subject: [AVALON] Re: Thank you! Please see the attached file for details. [demime 0.97c-p1 removed an attachment of type application/octet-stream which had a name of your_document.pif] ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 21:44:37 +0100 From: "frantic22" Subject: [AVALON] BT user Just done full virus update/check and I'm clean. Terry "O" ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 16:45:45 -0400 (EDT) From: Colleen Matan Subject: Re: [AVALON] no need to panic On Mon, 1 Sep 2003, Bahi Para wrote: > I was really hoping that we were seeing an amusing roll-call of the > carefree so the above came as a disappointment. (Good to hear +ve Ahahaha! Well, we can all be a bit carefree now a virus scanner is now installed at smoe.org (although everyone should still have up-to-date virus protection on his/computer). Colleen ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 16:55:29 -0500 From: "Paula Brown" Subject: [AVALON] the worm I run McAfee, set to default, plus a firewall, and I didn't open ANY attachments, and I still got the virus, which you can identify by going to Windows Update 'welcome' screen. I get a little 2 inch box telling me it's shutting my computer down if I drop the firewall, which I did momentarily to download. Don't drop your firewall. I called McAfee because their updated software IS NOT DETECTING THIS VIRUS. They told me to download Stinger, which you can get through www.mcafee.com. Stinger didn't detect it either, but I know I have it because of the aforementioned window box as well as the obvious "failed delivery" emails with attachments plus the ones from smoe.ord and roxyrama, etc. I'm afraid I'm out of ideas. I think this is a new strain. I already downloaded the Windows Update (#823908) which is says you need for XP, but in there it says after that, you still have to run the virus software and remove it. Unfortunately, that doesn't work since it's not detecting it. I may try Symatec next. Paula ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 18:02:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Colleen Matan Subject: Re: [AVALON] the worm On Mon, 1 Sep 2003, Paula Brown wrote: > I run McAfee, set to default, plus a firewall, and I didn't open ANY > attachments, and I still got the virus, which you can identify by going to > Windows Update 'welcome' screen. I get a little 2 inch box telling me it's > shutting my computer down if I drop the firewall, which I did momentarily to > download. Don't drop your firewall. Please note: 1. The Worm of the Day on Avalon is: Sobig. 2. You cannot get Sobig through the list. 3. If you get "failed delivery" messages it is because the worm forged your addresses on the header of a message. (the software in question does not read the full headers in order to ascertain where the message really came from; the result is much the same as if you had been 'joe-jobbed' by a spammer: "failed delivery" messages regarding messages you did not send). 4. You cannot get Sobig, or any other virus or worm that runs as an attachment, via the list, that is via messages sent via smoe.org. 5. There is no need to panic. I'm joining John in the hills. Colleen ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 18:32:47 -0400 From: "John Dillon" Subject: [AVALON] RE: [BFRM] restoring my pc Paula I am not 100 % sure if Restoring your System to a Prior Date will help as that normally re-sets the Windows Registry to a prior date and does not get rid of the virus that causes the damage. Resetting to the earlier date means the registry will no longer will have been altered by the result of the worm but once the worm sees your system registry is clean it will zap it again. If any one has any info to add to this please do. Thanks John Dillon - -----Original Message----- From: Paula Brown [mailto:lostribe@msn.com] Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 6:18 PM To: bryanferryroxymusic yahoogroups; cjem Subject: [BFRM] restoring my pc I decided the only thing to do is to restore my PC back to last week since none of the detectors are working. That means I'll have to re-download the Windows Update, but at least I know which one now. If you have XP, my best advice is to restore to an earlier date and then run spyware to get some of that off, because I didn't get mine by opening attachments, and McAfee thought it might have been through spyware. Tara had me download Spysweeper (free), so I'll run it. You can get that by doing a search on it. Paula Yahoo! 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Terms of Service . ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2003 01:39:14 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Kenneth_Nystr=F6m?= Subject: Fw: [AVALON] the worm Hi Paula, I use the symantec norton antivirus program with a live update from internet + a software firewall and so far it has kept me safe, it also puts files that are unrepairable in a quarantine mode. /rgds Kenneth - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paula Brown" To: "avalon" Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 11:55 PM Subject: [AVALON] the worm > I run McAfee, set to default, plus a firewall, and I didn't open ANY > attachments, and I still got the virus, which you can identify by going to > Windows Update 'welcome' screen. I get a little 2 inch box telling me it's > shutting my computer down if I drop the firewall, which I did momentarily to > download. Don't drop your firewall. > > I called McAfee because their updated software IS NOT DETECTING THIS VIRUS. > They told me to download Stinger, which you can get through www.mcafee.com. > Stinger didn't detect it either, but I know I have it because of the > aforementioned window box as well as the obvious "failed delivery" emails with > attachments plus the ones from smoe.ord and roxyrama, etc. I'm afraid I'm out > of ideas. I think this is a new strain. I already downloaded the Windows > Update (#823908) which is says you need for XP, but in there it says after > that, you still have to run the virus software and remove it. Unfortunately, > that doesn't work since it's not detecting it. I may try Symatec next. > > Paula > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V8 #247 **************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest