From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V8 #246 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Monday, September 1 2003 Volume 08 : Number 246 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [AVALON] Stooges ["Guy Lawley" ] Re: [AVALON] Stooges ["Jimbo" ] [AVALON] Roxy tune plays starring role... ["Chris Turner" ] Fw: [AVALON] Stooges [=?iso-8859-1?Q?Kenneth_Nystr=F6m?= ] To leave the list, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon-digest ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 09:21:07 +0100 From: "Guy Lawley" Subject: [AVALON] Stooges Apologies if this has come up before, but does anyone: (a) think that the first two Stooges albums may have influenced the early Roxy sound (esp. Manzanera and Eno) and/or (b) remember any Roxy member name-checking the Stooges as an influence? (c) remember Iggy or any other Stooge remarking on Roxy at all? On the 2001 tour, "Editions of You" reminded me of "Now I Wanna Be Your Dog", but I just filed it away as a one-off. Recently I revisited the first two Stooges albums for the first time in many years, and I was struck by an overall resemblance in guitar and other, less identifiable (Eno-esque!), sounds. Also a general sense of musical or even "mood" similarity. Nothing I could pin down too easily, and I'm not a musician so I can't analyse chords or other structural details. Guy ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 10:55:19 +0200 From: "Jimbo" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Stooges Funny, First lp i ever bought was Raw Power, still like it. jim. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Guy Lawley" To: Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2003 10:21 AM Subject: [AVALON] Stooges > Apologies if this has come up before, but does anyone: > > (a) think that the first two Stooges albums may have influenced the early > Roxy sound (esp. Manzanera and Eno) > and/or > (b) remember any Roxy member name-checking the Stooges as an influence? > (c) remember Iggy or any other Stooge remarking on Roxy at all? > > On the 2001 tour, "Editions of You" reminded me of "Now I Wanna Be Your > Dog", but I just filed it away as a one-off. Recently I revisited the first > two Stooges albums for the first time in many years, and I was struck by an > overall resemblance in guitar and other, less identifiable (Eno-esque!), > sounds. Also a general sense of musical or even "mood" similarity. Nothing I > could pin down too easily, and I'm not a musician so I can't analyse chords > or other structural details. > > Guy > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 15:03:13 +0100 From: "Chris Turner" Subject: [AVALON] Roxy tune plays starring role... Actor Bill Murray sings More Than This in the new movie 'Lost In Translation', in a performance that is acclaimed as one of his finest. Sounds unlikely but it's true. http://www.nytimes.com/2003/08/31/magazine/31COPPOLA.html?ex=1062907200& en=d1893e5518ca8dfc&ei=5062&partner=GOOGLE Chris ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 15:52:02 +0100 (BST) From: pauline.okeeffe@btopenworld.com Subject: [AVALON] Roxy gets a mention.... In todays Observer magazine: http://observer.guardian.co.uk/magazine/story/0,11913,1032649,00.html All the best Pauline ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 11:08:07 -0500 From: "Paula Brown" Subject: Fw: [AVALON] Stooges The Stooges are classic albums, and of course they were cited as a huge influence by every punk and new wave band that ever surfaced. I even like some of the more out of the way albums, like Metallic KO. I never heard any Roxy influence there, but certainly there's a fairly direct link back to them (or is it the other way around?), through Bowie. Paula ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 20:52:11 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Kenneth_Nystr=F6m?= Subject: Fw: [AVALON] Stooges Hi Guy, Yes I agree that there are similarities in "stooges - I wanna be your dog" and "Editions of you by Roxy Music" maily because of the descending guitar chords. But the chords aren't actually the same. In " I wanna be your dog" the chords goes F# - F - Eb (between the first and the second chord there is only a half step) and in "Editions of you" ie D - C - A (here you have a whole step between the first and the second chord) One connection beetween Roxy Music and Stooges could perhaps be that the First Album of the Stooges was produced by John Cale ex Velvet Underground Member. John Cale also recorded with both Brian Eno and Chris Spedding later on. /Kind Regards Kenneth - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Guy Lawley" To: Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2003 10:21 AM Subject: [AVALON] Stooges > Apologies if this has come up before, but does anyone: > > (a) think that the first two Stooges albums may have influenced the early > Roxy sound (esp. Manzanera and Eno) > and/or > (b) remember any Roxy member name-checking the Stooges as an influence? > (c) remember Iggy or any other Stooge remarking on Roxy at all? > > On the 2001 tour, "Editions of You" reminded me of "Now I Wanna Be Your > Dog", but I just filed it away as a one-off. Recently I revisited the first > two Stooges albums for the first time in many years, and I was struck by an > overall resemblance in guitar and other, less identifiable (Eno-esque!), > sounds. Also a general sense of musical or even "mood" similarity. Nothing I > could pin down too easily, and I'm not a musician so I can't analyse chords > or other structural details. > > Guy > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2003 09:00:01 +0100 From: "frantic22" Subject: [AVALON] test test ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V8 #246 **************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest