From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V8 #221 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Thursday, August 7 2003 Volume 08 : Number 221 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [AVALON] Re: avalon-digest V8 #220 ["SIMON GALLOWAY" ] Re: [AVALON] Re: avalon-digest V8 #220 [Go2Sweeney@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] Re: avalon-digest V8 #220 [Daniel Atterbom Subject: [AVALON] Re: avalon-digest V8 #220 > From: DEAGLERR@aol.com > Subject: Re: [AVALON] Roxy Music guitarist hails Latin music > Manzanera is not ruling out a reunion album. > "All of us have a sense that it`s worth a try. It would be an interesting > experience, coming back with more maturity and having worked with so many > people." > > One can only hope. > Regards, R Deagle ...that they don't! Why tarnish a perfect 10 years? I'm not against a collaboration, but not as Roxy Music. SimonG ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 07:12:32 -0500 From: "Jas" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: avalon-digest V8 #220 I vote YES for a reunion album. It couldn't hurt. Hey,Eno might show up.. again :) Jas - ----- Original Message ----- From: "SIMON GALLOWAY" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 4:56 AM Subject: [AVALON] Re: avalon-digest V8 #220 > > From: DEAGLERR@aol.com > > Subject: Re: [AVALON] Roxy Music guitarist hails Latin music > > > Manzanera is not ruling out a reunion album. > > "All of us have a sense that it`s worth a try. It would be an interesting > > experience, coming back with more maturity and having worked with so many > > people." > > > > One can only hope. > > Regards, R Deagle > > ...that they don't! Why tarnish a perfect 10 years? I'm not against a > collaboration, but not as Roxy Music. > > SimonG > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 08:18:54 EDT From: Go2Sweeney@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: avalon-digest V8 #220 In a message dated 06/08/2003 13:14:39 GMT Daylight Time, jas2347@comcast.net writes: > Hey,Eno might show up.. > again :) > Pigs might fly ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 15:21:10 +0200 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: avalon-digest V8 #220 At 07.12 -0500 03-08-06, Jas wrote: >I vote YES for a reunion album. It couldn't hurt. Hey,Eno might show up.. >again :) Sorry, I disagree. Buy the new Kraftwek album and you'll see why. It's ok, reviewers write, but previous albums are better. And Eno working in a group again, Why? It's like everybody asking Sting why he does not reform Police. Or David Byrne Talking Heads. Byrne said that it's like hanging out with your old girlfriend. :-) If Roxy Music came up with an original and excellent album I would love it. But I don't believe it until I hold the Cd in my hand. Btw, Wom magazine in Germany wrote about the live cd. My German is not that great, but I reckon they were mildly enthusiastic. Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2003 15:31:14 +0200 From: Edwin van der Ende Subject: [AVALON] Bryan Ferry 2002 pictures all online Hi there, Finally got time to get my Bryan Ferry pics of the 2002 concert in Amsterdam online. Feel free to have a look. They can be found at my totally new website at www.vanderende.net. If there you go to concerts you'll find the link to the Bryan Ferry pictures. Feel free to have a look at the other pictures as well of course. Greetz, Edwin ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 16:21:37 +0200 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: Re: [AVALON] Bryan Ferry 2002 pictures all online At 15.31 +0200 03-08-06, Edwin van der Ende wrote: >Finally got time to get my Bryan Ferry pics of the 2002 concert in >Amsterdam online. Feel free to have a look. They can be found at my totally >new website at www.vanderende.net. If there you go to concerts you'll find >the link to the Bryan Ferry pictures. Feel free to have a look at the other >pictures as well of course. That's a lot of great pictures, Edwin. Check this one out: http://www.vanderende.net/bryanferry2002amsterdam/pages/bryanferry2002amsterdam0 097.html Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 17:12:26 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Kenneth_Nystr=F6m?= Subject: Fw: [AVALON] Re: avalon-digest V8 #220 I think that it can be quite interesting to hear some new material from Roxy Music. I also think that Eno could be interested in taking part of the recording sessions, these guys are not "young artists" anymore so I think that they could set aside the prestige for a while and try to co-operate in making a new Roxy album. Also not all reuinions have been dissasters ;-) I saw Television in 1992 some 15 years after their heyday and liked it, they sounded almost as in the "old days" The new cd wasn't of course as good as Marquee Moon but still it felt good to hear some new material from them especially since the toured again. Kenneth - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Atterbom" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 3:21 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: avalon-digest V8 #220 > At 07.12 -0500 03-08-06, Jas wrote: > >I vote YES for a reunion album. It couldn't hurt. Hey,Eno might show up.. > >again :) > > Sorry, I disagree. Buy the new Kraftwek album and you'll see why. It's ok, > reviewers write, but previous albums are better. > > And Eno working in a group again, Why? It's like everybody asking Sting why > he does not reform Police. Or David Byrne Talking Heads. Byrne said that > it's like hanging out with your old girlfriend. :-) > > If Roxy Music came up with an original and excellent album I would love it. > But I don't believe it until I hold the Cd in my hand. > > Btw, Wom magazine in Germany wrote about the live cd. My German is not that > great, but I reckon they were mildly enthusiastic. > > > Daniel > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 20:20:53 +0200 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: Re: Fw: [AVALON] Re: avalon-digest V8 #220 At 17.12 +0200 03-08-06, Kenneth Nystrvm wrote: >I think that it can be quite interesting to hear some new material >from Roxy Music. >I also think that Eno could be interested in taking part of the recording >sessions, these guys are not "young artists" anymore so I think that >they could set aside the prestige for a while and try to co-operate in >making >a new Roxy album. Why should he? It's 30 years since Eno was kicked out the band. The last time he was with Roxy Music he was singing back-up vocals. If Eno participates I would be as surprised as if Bill Clinton is elected to a third term as US president. :-) Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 23:02:24 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Kenneth_Nystr=F6m?= Subject: Fw: Fw: [AVALON] Re: avalon-digest V8 #220 > At 17.12 +0200 03-08-06, Kenneth Nystrvm wrote: > >I think that it can be quite interesting to hear some new material > >from Roxy Music. > >I also think that Eno could be interested in taking part of the recording > >sessions, these guys are not "young artists" anymore so I think that > >they could set aside the prestige for a while and try to co-operate in > >making > >a new Roxy album. > > Why should he? It's 30 years since Eno was kicked out the band. The last > time he was with Roxy Music he was singing back-up vocals. Can't answer you on that one (I'm not a mind reader :-) but Eno managed to co-write "I Thought" with Bryan Ferry on Frantic so perhaps that is a sign that they can work together. But why are Manzanera, Mackay and Ferry leading people in the direction that there might some new recordings with Roxy Music? the obvious reason is perhaps to maintain an interest for Roxy Music during this Mini-tour and to "plug" for the new live album which by the way got excellent reviews in the UnCut Magazine. But let's not dwell about Eno being or not being part of new recordings, I would also be very surprised to hear some new material from Roxy Music. Music was my first love and it will be my last Music are the future and music are the past (John Miles - Music) Kenneth > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2003 03:46:33 +0100 From: "thom.wallace" Subject: [AVALON] Now the party's over (Long Post). Well the Roxy non-tour of the US has come and gone leaving us with some questions that will hopefully be answered over the coming months leading up to the release of Ferry's "new" album in the early part of 2004. 1) Once again the idea of Roxy recording again has been dangled like a carrot, will this really happen or is it just a ploy to help sales of the live cd? 2) It seems Ferry is eager to get to work on his new cd, will this actually be a new set of recordings or will it be another patch work quilt of older material given another turn round the mixing desk in the same mould as Frantic? 3) This leads to the important question, does Ferry still write new material? No matter if the next album is a solo effort or a Roxy album there won't be much to look forward to if there is no new material being written. My personal view is that there is more chance of something new coming from a Roxy album than one from Bryan. 4) Will any forthcoming concerts have a set list that is significantly different from those staged between 2001 and 2003? Over the last couple of weeks I've watched for the amount of postings coming in about the US shows, while there were a few it doesn't seem to have stirred up too much discussion. There was a time when I would have been really pissed off if Roxy were going on the road and not heading for Glasgow. This time round however I've had a feeling of total indifference to the whole thing, a feeling shared by the other fans I know locally. Basically it's down to the fact that we don't feel like we want to be part of a nostalgia thing if Roxy really were to record again at least it would provide some thing to get excited about I don't know what would come out of a new Roxy studio project, but I'd rather they tried it than use the excuse that it may not be up to their old standard, hell Avalon might have had a lot of studio polish but as far as material goes it was pretty thin. Just as the 2001 shows knocked the spots of the 1982/3 tour I'm pretty sure that any new material would be of a better quality than that offered by most of that on Avalon. On a personal note I must say that I've found the events of the last year or so fairly uninspiring. Yesterday I watched a couple of DVD's given to me by a friend, one was of the Tokyo '77 show and the other was of the Brussels show from last year. In the past I would have had a fair level of excitement about seeing some new Ferry/Roxy footage and while I was happy to see a clean copy of the '77 show I must say that I found the Brussels footage fairly dull with only the performance of I Thought raising my interest at the end of the show. It just seems sad that after 30 years of following the careers of Roxy/Ferry that the whole thing has become so damn uninspiring due to the lack of inventiveness in choosing setlists and the dumbing down the material being issued by Ferry. I know that Phil's recordings may have a limited audience within the members of the list, but at least when he does record an album it tends to take you somewhere new. I think it was Simon Galloway who said that he would rather Roxy didn't record again as roxy as they had ten perfect years. I'd have to say tha if this were the case then they wouldn't have made the comeback in '79 as the risked ruining the reputation they had built up between '72 and '75. Some will say that they never did record to their highest standard after '79, others will disagree but I'd rather they tried to create something new be it to my taste or not than become a nostalgia band living on past glories and touring the same set for the fear that change will chase away what they see as their main audience, people who only recognise Dance Away, Avalon, Love is the Drug and then can'y understand why they didn't play Let's stick together and Slave to love. Hope those who did go to the recent shows had a really good time even if it was just a nostalgia trip. Tom. You can also contact me at: TomWallace@vivaroxymusic.com ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V8 #221 **************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest