From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V8 #194 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Friday, July 11 2003 Volume 08 : Number 194 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [AVALON] Re:Opinions & only opinions [MarlanaK@webtv.net (M.M.K.)] [AVALON] In defence of O'Brien ["S.Thomsen" ] Re: [AVALON] Re:Opinions & only opinions ["Mark Yates" ] [AVALON] Opinions & only opinions [OBrienFerry@aol.com] RE: [AVALON] Avalon SACD [philip77@tiscali.co.uk] To leave the list, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon-digest ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 17:44:09 -0500 (CDT) From: MarlanaK@webtv.net (M.M.K.) Subject: [AVALON] Re:Opinions & only opinions Mark you do make some valid "opinions" as everyone here does. All is intitled to do so. "Give Bryan a break" Anyone & I mean anyone who puts themselves in the public eye "is" aware they can't please everyone. In a sense they've made themselves to take some criticism now & then. Constructive or otherwise I think can make an artist try harder. Its not going to destroy them unless there just isn't anything left for the artist to give. That decision as all decisions are made by the artist themselves. Throw in the towel or strive as I said in the past to" re-invent oneself".One thing doesn't work try another, & I don't mean the same old song & dance. That brilliant mind can surely come up with something new. Shy, private, whatever, he doesn't mind being seen with girls half his age. Sure everyone goes thru hell at one time or another most likely half of this group. But you survive & so will Ferry, talk is talk & this forum is of that so you will see all kinds of opinions. Ferry is an artist but just like us he is human. He owes us nothing we owe him nothing, all irrelevant except we are the ones buying the merchandise. Just my few opinions, for today that is!!!! Marlana............................................................ ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 01:09:25 +0200 From: "S.Thomsen" Subject: [AVALON] In defence of O'Brien Hi! I have met John O'Brien a couple of times. He and his wife. They were extreemly nice, smiling and warm. I have never ever doubted his true devotion to Ferry/Roxy Music and the Avalon group. Bryan Ferry (to me, that is) is an extreemly shy and reserved person and I feel very lucky to have been able to have experienced his art. There are other artists who are better technically and more public...but isn't that part of the Ferry "Mystique"????? To me, the problem is that we compare the Ferry/Roxy universe with other artists. And I don't think that is fair. In that perspective it is disapointing that the latest releases of SACD lacks more new stuff. But belive me...listen to the albums on a good SACD compatible HI-FI and you will be amazed how good it is. The DVD-Audio of future release of old Ferry/RM stuff will be of unbelivable quality, I'm sure.If you buy the right equipment for SACD/DVD-Audio you will be amazed of the quality of the records. I can only have bigger expectation to re-releases of Pink Floyd, Bowie and Steely Dan (to name a few quality bands). So brighten up, folks. Let's welcome what we can from Ferry/RM future releases. Stefanzanera , Denmark ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 01:58:06 +0100 From: "Mark Yates" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re:Opinions & only opinions Mark you do make some valid "opinions" as everyone here does. I disagree. Not everybody does, its polite and populist to write this, but incorrect. > sense they've made themselves to take some criticism now & then. > Constructive or otherwise I think can make an artist try harder. Its not > going to destroy them unless there just isn't anything left for the > artist to give. AGAIN. I'm sorry but I beg to differ, the world of art is full of people who where destroyed by unjustified criticism. Shy, private, whatever, he doesn't mind being seen with > girls half his age. Again this is wrong, He doesn't like to be seen with her. he keeps himself to himself. talk is > talk & this forum is of that so you will see all kinds of opinions. surely I have the right to champion Bryan Ferry on a Roxy Music forum. He owes us nothing we > owe him nothing, Actually I feel I owe him allot. My life has been greatly enhanced by both Bryan and David. except we are the ones buying the > merchandise. sorry again but I really dislike this old chestnut. I could never repay the pleasure they have given me over many years. I don't think my life would have been the same without the music of Bryan. both he and David have been the catalyst for such much of what is good in my life. Not just the music but Friends, my appreciation of Art, Literature. I champion both men and shall continue to defend them when they are unjustly criticised. Regards. Mark. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "M.M.K." To: Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 11:44 PM Subject: [AVALON] Re:Opinions & only opinions > Mark you do make some valid "opinions" as everyone here does. All is > intitled to do so. "Give Bryan a break" Anyone & I mean anyone who puts > themselves in the public eye "is" aware they can't please everyone. In a > sense they've made themselves to take some criticism now & then. > Constructive or otherwise I think can make an artist try harder. Its not > going to destroy them unless there just isn't anything left for the > artist to give. That decision as all decisions are made by the artist > themselves. Throw in the towel or strive as I said in the past to" > re-invent oneself".One thing doesn't work try another, & I don't mean > the same old song & dance. That brilliant mind can surely come up with > something new. Shy, private, whatever, he doesn't mind being seen with > girls half his age. Sure everyone goes thru hell at one time or another > most likely half of this group. But you survive & so will Ferry, talk is > talk & this forum is of that so you will see all kinds of opinions. > Ferry is an artist but just like us he is human. He owes us nothing we > owe him nothing, all irrelevant except we are the ones buying the > merchandise. Just my few opinions, for today that is!!!! > Marlana............................................................ > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 22:00:11 -0500 (CDT) From: MarlanaK@webtv.net (M.M.K.) Subject: [AVALON] Re: Opinions & only opinions Again Mark, I do admire your compassion for what you believe in. But as I have loved Bryan Ferry's music for many yrs.For me my life hasn't changed one way or the other because I listen or see his concerts.My life just in the the last few yrs. had some tragedy that was almost more than one human could bare. One can survive or you can give up. I had Ferry's music which comforted me at times as I listened to it. But it never kept my tragedy from happening.I guess is what I'm trying to say.Marlana...................................................... ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 08:01:49 +0200 From: "danyellow" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: The Explorers Hi there Camden it is an original CD produced by Expression records I did put on the web something about explorers but I have no news about Wraiths sorry ciao danilo http://theexplorers.interfree.it/ - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 1:01 PM Subject: [AVALON] Re: The Explorers > Noticed a copy of Live at Camden Palace on UK E bay #3.00 is it any good is > it a boot ? I liked The Explorers and have the album and a couple of singles > thought James Wraiths voice was as near to Bryans as you could get with maybe > the exception of David Sylvian.What happened to James and The Explorers > project ? Topic discussion The Explorers????? Alan > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 02:46:30 EDT From: OBrienFerry@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Opinions & only opinions In a message dated 11/07/03 02:04:17 GMT Daylight Time, mark@myates19.fsnet.co.uk writes: > I > champion both men and shall continue to defend them when they are unjustly > criticised. > > Regards. > Mark. > Can I ask one thing before I put this subject to bed. Could Bryan ,Phil & Andy have added some decent liner notes that are an insight to the making of the album that would be an interest to the fans? Could the 'unseen' photos have been a lot better than 1 pixelated photo. Could the stereo mixes on here have been mixed in a way that they were different to the original? In my opinion the answer is yes and therefore the criticism is justified. The discs would have been better for fans and more marketable and everybody wins. Have a wee look at Bowie's Ziggy Stardust & Aladdin Sane 30th anniversary reissues and you will see what I was expecting. J.O'B. ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 08:58:08 +0100 From: philip77@tiscali.co.uk Subject: RE: [AVALON] Avalon SACD Thanks for your views , John, I'll save the cash. As for Roxy Music producing some new material why don't they just re-record "Roxy Music"? Philip ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V8 #194 **************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest