From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V8 #160 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Monday, June 9 2003 Volume 08 : Number 160 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [AVALON] Roxy Music Live 2001 [philip77@tiscali.co.uk] Re: [AVALON] Roxy Music Live 2001 [Daniel Atterbom ] [AVALON] Re:Same Old Scene, gloves on/off/RMRM tree [Jocelynfiske@aol.com] RE: [AVALON] Dutchies in Hyde Park ["Anton van Lammeren" ] [AVALON] Roxy Music Live 2001 ["rmfyp" ] Re: [AVALON] Same Old Scene ["Tracy Connell" ] [AVALON] Hyde Park [InterEireann@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] Hyde Park [Go2Sweeney@aol.com] [AVALON] Hyde Park [InterEireann@aol.com] RE: [AVALON] Roxy Music Live 2001 ["Don Schultz, Jr." ] Re: [AVALON] Same Old Scene ["Mark Yates" ] Re: [AVALON] Re: Cry, Cry, Cry some more! ["Mark Yates" ] [AVALON] BOUNCE avalon@smoe.org: taboo header: /OT / (fwd) [Colleen ] [AVALON] While My Heart Is Still Beating [Chandla911@aol.com] To leave the list, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon-digest ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2003 10:14:18 +0100 From: philip77@tiscali.co.uk Subject: [AVALON] Roxy Music Live 2001 Ok, folks, its been out a week. Should I buy the damn thing? (I ask myself, why have I resisited. Normally I'd buy a Roxy/Ferry album the day its released.) Philip ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2003 11:43:05 +0200 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: Re: [AVALON] Roxy Music Live 2001 At 10.14 +0100 03-06-08, philip77@tiscali.co.uk wrote: >Ok, folks, its been out a week. Should I buy the damn thing? >(I ask myself, why have I resisited. Normally I'd buy a Roxy/Ferry album >the day its released.) It got a good review and *** in Q magazine. Mine is in the mail. Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2003 13:37:17 +0200 From: "Anton van Lammeren" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Roxy Music Live 2001 > -----Original Message----- > From: philip77@tiscali.co.uk > Sent: zondag 8 juni 2003 11:14 > To: avalon@smoe.org > Subject: [AVALON] Roxy Music Live 2001 > > Ok, folks, its been out a week. Should I buy the damn thing? > (I ask myself, why have I resisited. Normally I'd buy a > Roxy/Ferry album the day its released.) > > > Philip > Mine is in the mail too. Still can't believe it: a Roxy Music 2001 T-shirt, Phil Manzanera's Southern Cross, the Live 2-CD plus a Phil Manzanera Interviews-CD are coming to me for a mere 30 Euros! Delivered personally at my very own door. Tara, Anton. ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2003 08:15:39 EDT From: Jocelynfiske@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Re:Same Old Scene, gloves on/off/RMRM tree I've cutted about 25cm of my hair so not mutch to let down, but I am still a looney.(my hair still long enough) But Cor you'll lose all your super powers! I've made about 8 copy's of the CD of the first set to listmembers (excl > copies for bandmembers) > I had expected at least one 'tree' for the CD. I had to let a few people > down, in anticipation to a mad affair2 CD tree. > > I have a copy of this (minus ATAP and Beauty Queen) and am prepared to start > a tree if someone can remind me how it works. I've just got a new kit and > haven't burnt anything yet so please be patient with me. O'Brien describes me > as a techno numpty which is fairly accurate, so it might take as long as Roxy > did between the last concert and the release of Roxy Live. > I think it starts with the first five respondees will get the CD and pass it > on? > So replies off list please. And pondering Paula's suggestion of hats, my theory would only work if hats, big hair, and platforms were excluded. So in future if you are to attend you must shave your head, restrict yourself to 2inch heels, and were a uniform Mao suit (which come to think of it is very Roxy). But I love the idea of your hoverboard Richard - after all we are meant to be living in the 21st Century, I think you should patent it immediately. Jocelyn ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2003 14:58:50 +0200 From: "Anton van Lammeren" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Dutchies in Hyde Park Sorry, but I have to wait for my third child to arrive! [Hence this pic accompanying my posts at manzanera.com http://www.avl.dds.nl/Roxy2HB.jpg Stupid thing: but I forgot where I got it from. Anyone knows which child it is...?] Tara, Anton. But: Next time is the best time ... > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org]On Behalf Of > Robert Vinkenborg > Sent: vrijdag 6 juni 2003 10:14 > To: Avalon (E-mail) > Subject: [AVALON] Dutchies in Hyde Park > > > Ben benieuwd welke Nederlandse Avolonians naar Hyde Park gaan. > (I like to know wich Dutch Avolonians will be at Hyde Park). > > Robert Vinkenborg ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2003 15:13:11 +0100 From: "rmfyp" Subject: [AVALON] Roxy Music Live 2001 I've read with great interest the debate re the above being "flat". There are certain comments that I must agree with - in particular J O'B - the seeming lack of any rapport with the audience. I find it difficult to understand why no "Roxy" chant - which surely took place at every concert - and no band intros. I believe that on the pro side the packaging is very good (compare with Zep's How The West Was Won - same card style case but no booklet etc) and it is great to have all songs performed (overdubs included!). When compared with Viva! IMHO it comes a poor second for atmosphere (again - that should have been a double LP?) but is also much better than The High Road/While My Heart Is Still Beating. But to be honest, that was not my favourite Roxy period. A comparison of 4 recent-ish live releases: Pink Floyd . The Wall Live (Packaging 10 - content 7) Roger Waters . In The Flesh (Packaging 7 - content 9) Roxy Music . Live (Packaging 8 - content 5) Led Zeppelin . How The West Was Won (Packaging 3 - content 9) I'm glad I've bought the CD and look forward with great relish to Hyde Park - but I will be hoping for something more than a "Greatest Hits" gig (but already know that it won't be). ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2003 15:05:28 +0000 From: "Tracy Connell" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Same Old Scene >So much for democracy! The needs of the many should outweigh the needs of >the >few - and do, that's why people swing from chandeliers, stand on their >seats, >etc. But if people think my needs are outweighed by the needs of mob >mentality, why should BF be allowed to dictate? Let's hope he doesn't >demand major >Y-front uniforms and loping air guitar from everybody is all I can >say...Sounds >far-fetched but I remember Prince trying to set up a tour where he required >audience members to only wear peach and black clothing. I can see your side of the arguement - but each to his own! I think that would be quite funny to see, if Bryan tried to tell the audience what to wear. It would be interesting to see how many people would do it! Quite a funny thought that! Tracy _________________________________________________________________ Sign-up for a FREE BT Broadband connection today! http://www.msn.co.uk/specials/btbroadband ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2003 11:43:07 EDT From: InterEireann@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Hyde Park Some time ago, somebody posted a link to the seating chart at Hyde Park. I will now be in England, and recently deleted that email before finding out I would be there, but of course I cannot find it and the ticket website/line is not helpful. Anyone still got it? R ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2003 11:48:49 EDT From: Go2Sweeney@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Hyde Park In a message dated 08/06/2003 16:44:03 GMT Standard Time, InterEireann@aol.com writes: > Some time ago, somebody posted a link to the seating chart at Hyde Park. I > will now be in England, and recently deleted that email before finding out > I > would be there, but of course I cannot find it and the ticket website/line > is > not helpful. Anyone still got it? > > The seating plan is here, courtesy to Chris and Duncan: http://www.roxyrama.com/hydepark.htm Goodie ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2003 12:03:54 EDT From: InterEireann@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Hyde Park Does anyone have a Gold Circle ticket..Block B or C that they now cannot use? ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2003 12:15:51 -0400 From: "Don Schultz, Jr." Subject: RE: [AVALON] Roxy Music Live 2001 >> -----Original Message----- > >Mine is in the mail too. Still can't believe it: a Roxy Music 2001 T-shirt, >Phil Manzanera's Southern Cross, the Live 2-CD plus a Phil Manzanera >Interviews-CD are coming to me for a mere 30 Euros! >Delivered personally at my very own door. > >Tara, Anton. > I think I can live without the concert CD, having it on DVD will suffice... but where did you order the Roxy Music 2001 T-shirt from, Anton? My original's starting to show some wear. Sincerely frayed, Don n/p Robin Guthrie "Imperial" ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2003 12:46:09 -0400 From: "John Dillon" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Roxy Music Live 2001 Don That offer was from Phil's site. The new Live CD came signed by Phil himself with a Roxy Music Tour shirt, plus 2 CD's: Phil's Southern Cross and an interview CD. The offer was limited to the first 150 or so requests. You can check it out at: http://www.manzanera.com then http://www.manzanera.com/liveoffer.htm All the best John Dillon - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Schultz, Jr." To: Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2003 12:15 PM Subject: RE: [AVALON] Roxy Music Live 2001 > >> -----Original Message----- > > > >Mine is in the mail too. Still can't believe it: a Roxy Music 2001 T-shirt, > >Phil Manzanera's Southern Cross, the Live 2-CD plus a Phil Manzanera > >Interviews-CD are coming to me for a mere 30 Euros! > >Delivered personally at my very own door. > > > >Tara, Anton. > > > > I think I can live without the concert CD, having it on DVD will suffice... > but where did you order the Roxy Music 2001 T-shirt from, Anton? > My original's starting to show some wear. > > Sincerely frayed, > Don > > n/p Robin Guthrie "Imperial" > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2003 20:47:35 +0200 From: "Anton van Lammeren" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Roxy Music Live 2001 > -----Original Message----- > From: Don Schultz, Jr. > Sent: zondag 8 juni 2003 18:16 > To: avalon@smoe.org > Subject: RE: [AVALON] Roxy Music Live 2001 > ... > > but where did you order the Roxy Music 2001 T-shirt from, Anton? > My original's starting to show some wear. > > Sincerely frayed, > Don Hi Don, It was a manzanera.com Special Offer, and I'm afraid that the T-shirt was the 'free tour-merchandise' that's sold out now... There was some confusion about who was going to get what... Read more details on: http://www.manzanera.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=team;action=display;num =1054559056 (link on one line in browser...) Tara, Anton. ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2003 20:13:53 +0100 From: "Mark Yates" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Same Old Scene Richard. I fully understand your reasoning, and think you make a valid point. Unfortunately for me, I simply can't help myself, at the sound of the first note of an up-beat number I'm,on my feet singing and shaking my booty for all its worth, All etiquette forgotten, At the Frantic gig, for the first part of the set the semi-acoustic ballads, we sat and watched and listened and its was wonderful, not one person stood, everyone remained seated. But the seconded I heard the opening notes of "The Thrill Of It All".......BANG....all reasoning disappeared I was first on my feet, giving it my all, every word sang, shaking my booty like I've never shook before.....in fact I was that carried away by the end of the gig I ended up shimmying up and down the isle with a Lady I had never met before(or since) doing an improvised dance to "Lets Stick Together"..I remember the Roxy gigs when the line from Dream Home "But you blew my mind" was shouted in unison by the full crowd.......it made the hairs on the back of my neck stand on end.........Or the girl who stood next to me at the Mamouna gig who sang every word of Carrickfergus..the girl couldn't sing to save her life....but it didn't matter I liked to hear her sing, I like the fact that she knew the song as well as me, the fact that she was a true Ferry fan. I like to mix with other Fans, and I like them to express themselves..........At the Bowie Gig last year "open air" about an hour before Bowie was due on stage the heavens opened........we got soaked........completely sodden........then one voice from the crowd started singing "The sun machine is coming down and were gonna have a party" (From memory of a free festival) within minutes thousands were singing it, lifted everyone's spirits...That's the essence of a live audience, brining people together putting their interpretation on the event.........E.G. the Roxy chant..........on your feet chanting Roxy exhilaration that brings a feeling of togetherness that can't be matched by anything other than Live Music. Just for an hour or two your among friends, and the rest of the world and its troubles and go take a "run and jump" Its pure escapism, and just writing about it I can feel the excitement of the earlier Roxy gigs.......and makes wish i could turn back the clock. Alas on the Roxy re-union gigs i felt none of the togetherness the "WE'RE ROXY'S AND WE ARE HERE TO PARTY SO WATCH OUT" Thankfully it was alive and kicking at the Frantic gigs,and we partied to some tune. In defence of the south. I have friends scattered all over the country and know only to well that the London gang can "mix it" with best of them. Regards. Mark. - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2003 11:25 AM Subject: [AVALON] Same Old Scene > In a message dated 2003-06-07 09:05:32 GMT Daylight Time, simon g writes: > > > > >You've hit the nail on the head. Just within the UK, audiences OUTSIDE of > > >London are always more appreciative, attentive and responsive, end result, > > >you get a better show (usually). > > Well, we have been here before but when did the repetition of a topic ever > bother anyone much in Avalon? It's interesting that people would equate standing > in front of other people sitting down, dancing badly, shouting drunkenly, > singing along out of tune, waving your arms windmill-like (or P Townshend for > that matter), any of the above with "appreciative" or "attentive". > > Appreciative and attentive would most normally include listening, receiving, > not attempting to rival the performance... > > Don't get me wrong. I like dancing. I get excited by concerts (did you forget > my write-up of Bowie at Hammersmith last year?). But I'm 6ft 4ins tall: if > someone stands in front of me, I can stand also (but should I have to?) and see > over that person. If it's a standing venue, my very presence means that 98% of > the audience will regret standing behind me. At home, I can get pretty pissed > off if someone else stands or walks in front of the TV when I am watching > something I'm interested in - why should being 'attentive' at a concert be any > different? > > As for people bellowing out names of songs, names of artists or singing > along, getting words (and notes, and keys...) wrong, this helps my 'appreciation' > of the concert how? > > Sorry, especially in seated venues, if you want to be more appreciative or > attentive than fans outside the capital: learn some civilised manners, sit down > and shut up! > > Best wishes > Richard Mills > > n/p Jonathan Ross interviews Jimmy Carr, BBC Radio 2 > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2003 21:36:06 +0100 From: "Mark Yates" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: Cry, Cry, Cry some more! Thanks SJ. I make very few negative remarks about Ferry, In fact, over the past year or so I have continually Championed Frantic and will continue to do so.The only negative threads from me would be regarding Flesh and blood and Taxi, both of which I consider unworthy of the Man's great talent. Although.......Just the other day I was working through some tax returns, whilst listening to Taxi,,,,,,,and really got into it. I have no idea if you have the new Live CD but look forward to reading your thoughts on it. Regards. Mark. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "mt cafe" To: Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2003 1:59 PM Subject: [AVALON] Re: Cry, Cry, Cry some more! > Yes, you did make a positive comment on the new CD.....>> I already feel in the minority by stating that I feel it is a good and > almost true reflection of the tour. << After that you condemned the audiences at what seemed to be all gigs! My answer was that your comment was unfair! I obviously misinterprated your meaning and that it was one reply to several earlier questions. > I used your thread to hit back at those who use every opportunity to discredit everything Ferry has done lately. I apologise for that, I should have made a new post. > > Regards > SJ > > > From: "Mark Yates" > To: > Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 8:06 PM > Subject: Re: [AVALON] Cry, Cry, Cry! > If you could take the time to read my full post you would find I was > actually praising the CD. I gave full credit to the band for giving > brilliant performances to such poor audiences..........considering I have been a paying customer to every "Ferry/Roxy" tour since 1977 I have a right to criticise the recent Roxy audiences if I choose to do so. > FACT. > for the first Roxy gig in June we were situated on the MENA tier having a good vantage point of both stage and exit...we saw "for the first time > ever" at a Ferry/Roxy gig people leave........we counted between 70 and 80 people leave the Arena mid-way through the set........ > Fact > Later in the year Roxy played another gig at the same arena........they > only sold half the tickets. > Fact > I used the word "Flat" in regard to the cd in answer to KW'S post who > asked the question why does it seem flat in comparison to VIVA. > FACT > I received my copy of the CD on the doormat at precisely 8.30am on the 2nd of June. > FACT > Ididn't use the word asshole > FACT > I did not contradict myself, " mix of age and gender" (sex) never once > mentioning the class of person at the BOWIE gig. > ASSUMPTION > You don't go to many gigs. > ASSUMPTION > You get your "mt cafe" name from using a cyber cafe...........IF SO can I suggest that you ask the proprietor of said cyber cafe to invest in new hardware so you can get the chance to read the full script of the e-mails and enable you to follow a thread with a little more accuracy. > In ending Roxy were good but the audiences were poor.........its a good cd even though on this tour I consider that Bryan was feeding caviar to > PIGS...........not that I'm calling you a pig...cause like the word > asshole it might be deemed offensive. > Regards > Mark. > > > _____________________________________________________________ > http://www.lovemail.co.uk > > _____________________________________________________________ > Select your own custom email address for FREE! Get you@yourchoice.com w/No Ads, 6MB, POP & more! http://www.everyone.net/selectmail?campaign=tag > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2003 16:48:47 EDT From: Go2Sweeney@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] The live CD I originally wanted to buy the live CD in the shop, but then I read about the offer with the T-shirt, and went for that instead. Because of this, I am still waiting to hear the live CD, but I was one of the lucky ones who is going to get a T-shirt, hopefully it will be with me any day now. Somehow I can't understand why a live CD should sound flat, most live CDs I've listened to are just that, live and full of life. But, as I haven't got this one yet, I can't comment. Goodie ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2003 15:06:03 -0700 From: Karin Whitney Subject: [AVALON] Same Old Scene Well Good Lord! You folks have definitely got my attention and I've got a mouth full...of comments that is! Let's start with the concept of rock n' roll. American music at it's most defiant! Rules are meant to be broken and rock n' roll is meant to be danced to, regardless of the size of your arse or your head! Have you folks forgotten that music crosses all boundaries? And it is considered the language of the Gods! If you want to go to a rock n' roll concert(last I heard Bryan Ferry and Roxy Music played rock n' roll)and stand there and analyze the music, you are in the wrong place...go to the back, or better yet stay home and listen to a cd. Music is to be enjoyed on all levels. Music and dance have been partners since the beginning of time. The relationship between audience and band is also an integral one. It is a synergistic connection. I'm ashamed to think some people could consider themselves a fan of rock music and not want to dance. You must be getting old. Music and dance equal the joy of life and living. So shake your booty while you still can. Have some passion and a love affai ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2003 21:41:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Colleen Matan Subject: [AVALON] BOUNCE avalon@smoe.org: taboo header: /OT / (fwd) From: "Chris Turner" To: Subject: NOT just another high Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 02:38:33 +0100 What were you doing two years ago today? I was in Dublin for a certain reunion... I'm sure it wasn't technically very good (although it sounded sweet at the time, given that emotion and adrenaline can blur the senses), and I know the growling cavernous belly of The Point wasn't very full, but there were two moments in that concert that I will live with me forever, I'm sure of that. The first came as the tinkling cocktail party ended and the band ripped into the opening bars of Remake/Remodel; the curtain sweeping away to reveal Andy blowing for all he was worth; Phil, wearing the contented look of a man back in his rightful place; and as our eyes darted around, Ferry, hammering away at the piano, making some subtle point about 'Roxy as ensemble'. A wonderful hour and a half later came the second as Thompson beat out the opening of FYP to a chorus of gasps and cheers. Shivers. Just improbably, preposterously, irreplaceably wonderful... TOTP the week or so before just wasn't the same. Somehow that chance meeting had seemed like a hazy dream...too brief to be certain..had I really been there?...had it really been them? Dublin brought that reverie into sharp relief. Nineteen years of waiting to see them together again. I might see them perform a hundred times more, or hear those songs a million times over, but they'll never sound to my ears as they did that night. Being able to share that night with so many friends added to its euphoria; time spent well being, as we know, so rare. I'm doubtful that Roxy can ever hit that high again for me, indeed the thought of the latest outing leaves me less than inspired, but hey, at least for some of us, we'll always have Dublin. Chris ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2003 22:48:43 EDT From: Chandla911@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] While My Heart Is Still Beating kwjazz@comcast.net said: "Let's start with the concept of rock n' roll. American music at it's most defiant! Rules are meant to be broken and rock n' roll is meant to be danced to, regardless of the size of your arse or your head! Have you folks forgotten that music crosses all boundaries? And it is considered the language of the Gods! If you want to go to a rock n' roll concert(last I heard Bryan Ferry and Roxy Music played rock n' roll)and stand there and analyze the music, you are in the wrong place...go to the back, or better yet stay home and listen to a cd. Music is to be enjoyed on all levels. Music and dance have been partners since the beginning of time. The relationship between audience and band is also an integral one. It is a synergistic connection. I'm ashamed to think some people could consider themselves a fan of rock music and not want to dance. You must be getting old." Richard Mills replies: Actually, I don't think in 2003 Bryan Ferry (much as I love his music) represents a musical act of rebellion, American music at its most defiant. I think his solo concerts have become remarkably safe, almost cabaret with a neo-classical pretension at the beginning with harp solos, string quartets and the like. One can see how his show would suit corporate entertainment with workers not so fresh from the conference, wanting to clap hands along to the songs (that follow the harp solo). Roxy Music did innovate 30 years ago but the same guys playing the stuff now don't constitute anything radical, rebellious or defiant. Just a desire to straighten out the pension plan. Sure there's a connection between music and dance but, as someone suggested, we ought to consider what Bryan Ferry wants us to do/be. I see him hiring promoters who select seated venues and I wonder why Bryan isn't briefing them to book the Astoria or Brixton Academy instead? As for getting old, my picture is in the attic and I'm fighting off my eventual demise in every way I can think of. Possibly even by conserving energy. Best wishes Richard Mills n/p Asian Dub Foundation - 2,000 Mirrors ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V8 #160 **************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest