From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V8 #100 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Friday, April 11 2003 Volume 08 : Number 100 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [AVALON] Manchester 2003 tree fruits ["danyellow" ] [AVALON] Re: Duets ["Anton van Lammeren" ] [AVALON] Fan Club Memberships [Chandla911@aol.com] [AVALON] Ticket prices (2) [Chandla911@aol.com] [AVALON] BF Manchester CD tree [Chandla911@aol.com] [AVALON] Re: 30 Yrs. & still going [MarlanaK@webtv.net (M.M.K.)] [AVALON] Clothes 30 years ago.... ["M. Taylor" ] Re: [AVALON] Fan Club Memberships [Johnny Reece ] [AVALON] The Numberer ["Theresa Fagan" ] Re: [AVALON] Fan Club Memberships [JFROXY@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] Clothes 30 years ago.... [Stevesiren@aol.com] [AVALON] Re. 2 years ago soon ["Kari Solberg" ] [AVALON] Aa'll tell ye 'boot the Worm [Karen Swenson ] Re: [AVALON] Fan Club Memberships [David Neuhaus ] Re: [AVALON] Aa'll tell ye 'boot the Worm ["thom.wallace" ] Re: [AVALON] Fan Club Memberships ["Judy Kaufman" ] Re: [AVALON] Fan Club Memberships [Aleks Kocan ] To leave the list, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon-digest ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 12:51:25 +0200 From: "danyellow" Subject: [AVALON] Manchester 2003 tree fruits Ciao Alan Just got ur parcel and my burner is already hot .-) i'll spread the stuff to the italian branches of the club and to my friend Zen in Japan grazie & take care I hope to be able to do something 4 ya 2 one day the bogus dan CIAO TO EVERYONE a kiss to Jocelyn ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 12:38:12 +0100 From: "Cassidy, Chris J (CPS)" Subject: [AVALON] How one's memory slips.....? Ooops....sorry, wrong year - it was 1973 not 1972! Chris Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2003 13:54:55 +0100 From: "Cassidy, Chris J (CPS)" Subject: [AVALON] 30 yr long service award Please add my name to the list with Johnny - 18 March 1972 - Birmingham Town Hall. ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 07:41:57 EDT From: Chandla911@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] BF teenie fans In a message dated 2003-04-10 09:06:29 GMT Daylight Time, owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org writes: > My own two daughters are both fans - not that they had a lot of choice as > they > were growing up mind you! And there's Katie Siren at 16 who is a devoted > fan. > And Chris Cassidy's daughter, Isabella who is even younger. I love all > this. > Not forgetting, of course, my 3 year old grandson who does a terrific > version > of The Strand! Catch them while they're young, I say. > > And not forgetting my own daughter Charlotte, aged 12, who adores Bryan Ferry and Roxy Music (although not as much as she likes Queen). So far she has seen three tours (2 x BF, 1 x RM) on 8 occasions, including our jaunt to see BF and Marianne Faithfull at an outdoor festival in Switzerland. Best wishes Richard Mills n/p Erasure - Make Me Smile (Come Up And See Me) - wonder why they didn't do a BF/Roxy cover? ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 07:48:05 EDT From: KWil632057@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] RE: BF Teenie Fans. n/p Erasure - Make Me Smile (Come Up And See Me) - wonder why they didn't do a BF/Roxy cover? Thank god they didn't. I notice that the current tour merchandise is geared to the under 12's. J n/p Bryan Ferry sings Def Leppard ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 07:56:06 -0400 From: Go2Sweeney@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] RE: BF Teenie Fans. In an email dated Thu, 10 Apr 2003 11:48:05 am GMT, KWil632057@aol.com writes: >n/p Erasure - Make Me Smile (Come Up And See Me) - wonder why they didn't do >a BF/Roxy cover? > > >Thank god they didn't. I have to agree with the last statement. G. np VU-Sunday morning >___________________________________________________________________________ >To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 13:31:38 +0100 From: "Heather Buch" Subject: [AVALON] ferry in Vegas On Thu, 10 Apr 2003 04:05:04 -0400 (EDT), avalon-digest wrote > Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 17:37:20 EDT > From: Jocelynfiske@aol.com > Subject: [AVALON] The Show must go on...and on....and on....and on..... > No, Mr Ferry thinks he's bloody Bob Dylan, and as > such he will be on the road until the daft old git pegs out. Who'll > drop dead first, us or him is anyone's guess. And I'd put big money > on him eventually attempting to emulate another idol of his, ending > up in Vegas doing years worth of extended cabaret. I can just see > Reecey and Ivor now, reaching out for the spotted silk scarf soaked > in sweat that he dangles tantalisingly infront of them. Me? I'm just > waiting for him to throw me his teeth. > > The Mecca Organisation. > Good post! But if Ferry were to do Vegas right now, would he still be a "new-wave parody of an old lounge lizard" doing Vegas, or would he really be the latter? If so, are we his fans "new wave parodies" of the hopeless barflys that go to see the old lounge lizards in Vegas, or are we the latter? (back to my temporary Nick Cave sabbatical) Heather ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 14:48:49 +0200 From: "Anton van Lammeren" Subject: [AVALON] Re: Duets > -----Original Message----- > From: frantic22 > Sent: woensdag 2 april 2003 11:48 > To: Avalon > Subject: [AVALON] Duets > > I do wonder whether Bryan could share the mike ...... > Recently I saw the Frantic Promo. During the introduction of Ja Nun Hons Pris, Bryan himself mentions that "It's good for me to have other voices on the album, it's good to have a contrast." You can listen to this 'soundbite' on: http://www10.brinkster.com/paarl18/avalonia.htm (265kB) Tara, Anton some Old Roxy Follie: http://www.avl.dds.nl "Strange how that futuristic year 2000 is now in the distant past" ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 09:05:37 EDT From: Chandla911@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Fan Club Memberships In a message dated 2003-04-10 09:06:29 GMT Daylight Time, Reecey writes: > My god, even my old 'Roxy Music Fan Club' membership > card was there. I'll bet there's a few of us on this > list with those cards lurking somewhere, no doubt. > Were they numbered? Any chance of an HONEST competition in which members declare their numbers and we see who joined earliest? Best wishes Richard Mills n/p Voyage To India - india.arie ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 09:18:48 EDT From: Chandla911@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Ticket prices (2) In a message dated 2003-04-10 09:06:29 GMT Daylight Time, Steve Siren writes: > Incidently in the 30th aniversary cd release of Bowies "Ziggy Live" from > Hammersmith Odeon there is a replica ticket stub stating that it cost 2 > pounds, now I went to see him on this tour only a month earlier at > Leicester > where the entry fee was only 60p. Did they really increase the prices by > over > 300per cent? or is it just someone guessing? Re my earlier mail...how lucky you were to see the 1973 tour TWICE! You'll see from my mail that the May 1973 Earls Ct tickets were #1.25 which demonstrates a leap to reach the Hammy Odeon figure of #2. Following my problems in getting rid of the second Earls Ct ticket, there was NO WAY my mother was going to let me go to the Odeon on the same tour ("you don't want to see him play the same songs all over again, it'll be exactly the same as at Earls Ct, there won't be anything special about the Odeon show..." she said), so I don't know what prices were being charged, but it's fair to assume they were higher than Earls Ct given that there were many fewer seats and they were trying to work back from a cancelled second date at Earls Ct (due to the poor press after the first show - totally uncalled for IMHO). Maybe Tony deFries charged what he thought the local market would bear? How things don't change. But the facsimile ticket is definitely wanting in one detail - the tickets all used to have the line: "General Manager - Phil Leivers" and it's missing on the one in the CD repackage. Now of course Phil Leivers was a *real manager*, running a successful venue without all this badging by greedy beer mass producers... Best wishes Richard Mills n/p Boys Are Back In Town - Thin Lizzy ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 09:37:57 EDT From: Chandla911@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] BF Manchester CD tree All five slots were filled - list members move like quicksilver! So my offer is now closed...Maybe you lucky people could offer some CD branches to the list when you have them? Best wishes Richard Mills n/p Vanilla Sky - Paul McCartney ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 08:56:12 -0500 (CDT) From: MarlanaK@webtv.net (M.M.K.) Subject: [AVALON] Re: 30 Yrs. & still going Looks like a lot of you were around from the start of Roxy's conception. When I look at the Video of Total Recall what a long way to have come---Question --- I heard on an oldies station yesterday morning while I was getting ready for work."Lay Lady Lay" by B. Dylan, beautiful ballad.I don't recall Ferry ever doing this song but sure wish he would. Is there a time when he ever sang this song? And if not wonder why he'd pass up a beautiful ballad like this over others he chose? Marlana......................................................... ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 14:07:08 +0000 From: "M. Taylor" Subject: [AVALON] Clothes 30 years ago.... >And 'M' - your beautiful dresses - reminds me that in the early days we all >used to get dressed up for a Roxy gig....... > Thanks! =) How did people dress up back in the day? (Since I collect 50's & 60's dresses) What did some of YOU wear to the shows????? =) M ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ There was a young woman called M Who sat on Viggo Mortensen * He said, "Well M, my dear!" "Your waist brings such cheer" "I'll not look at another again!" ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ * A real-life event! _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 07:43:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Johnny Reece Subject: Re: [AVALON] Fan Club Memberships - --- Chandla911@aol.com wrote: . > > > Were they numbered? Any chance of an HONEST > competition in which members > declare their numbers and we see who joined > earliest? > As far as I know, they were all numbered - so it's out with the boxes sometime to check mine, though I joined the Fan Club very, very late (late 74 I think ???). I do remember, in a horrifically 'anorak' way, that I lost my card for a while - and rejoined - and then got No. 5779. Shame though, when it all wound up - it was well run, friendly and efficient, with a few get togethers arranged, contributions and reviews to newsletters openly welcomed from Fans, and generally had a nice feel to it, with regular news bulletins and contact from the guy who ran it (excellently) from somewhere in Merseyside, Peter Leay. I always looked forward to the newsletters, which described foreign gigs in far off (and not so far off) places, and updates on Band activity, recording, and the like, without having the 'we are looking into', 'there may be a possibility of' and general list of news which were actually a horde of sentences with the word 'maybe' that seemed to replace it. It's different now, of course, what with the Net and split second info available and all that brings, but the 'personal' side disappeared with the winding up of the club, and seemed to be replaced by a kind of Band/Artist to Fans rabid paranoia which I've never really understood, and thought rather unfortunate, not to mention unnecessary. Still, times change, and we're not 17 anymore. Though just for a second or two at Dublin in June 2001, perhaps we were. Reecey... . . . Yahoo! Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more http://tax.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 11:26:49 -0400 From: "Theresa Fagan" Subject: [AVALON] The Numberer Speaking of memorabilia, I just amazed myself last week when I was on the website. I wrote to the gentleman that put it together, wondering if the first five hundred sets could be located (registered on the site). By looking at an old notebook that I used to keep my mail order records in, I was able to pinpoint the day I received my set (number 57): November 22, 1976! I had a lot of spare time back in THOSE DAYS -- anyone on the list have an original set? Number? Alas -- the email address of the site owner was no longer working. - --TriTri - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Johnny Reece" | | As far as I know, they were all numbered - so it's out | with the boxes sometime to check mine, though I joined | the Fan Club very, very late (late 74 I think ???). | I do remember, in a horrifically 'anorak' way, that I | lost my card for a while - and rejoined - and then got | No. 5779. | Shame though, when it all wound up - it was well run, | ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 12:43:08 EDT From: JFROXY@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Fan Club Memberships In a message dated 10/04/03 14:07:16 GMT Daylight Time, Chandla911@aol.com writes: > Were they numbered? Any chance of an HONEST competition in which members > declare their numbers and we see who joined earliest? My Roxy membership card number was 2804, my Eno membership card number was 280. JF. ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 13:08:21 EDT From: Stevesiren@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Clothes 30 years ago.... In a message dated 4/10/03 03:10:10 GMT Daylight Time, lebonster@hotmail.com writes: > What did some of YOU wear to the shows????? =) > > I think I might regret this but..... On the FYP tour I can remember wearing bright green loon pants, black t-shirt with a garish Asian pattern, topped of with a jacket that was grey with Red, Yellow & Green stripes down it, oh & green platform shoes.& yes I wore make up which my girlfriend applied on the 'bus as my father would have killed me if he saw it! I should point out that I was thinner & had a bit more hair then.There are pictures around, but the chances of any of you seeing them are nil! Steve ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 23:16:17 +0200 From: "Kari Solberg" Subject: [AVALON] Re. 2 years ago soon Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2003 18:29:46 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?jeanne=20louise?= Subject: [AVALON] 2 years ago soon >It looks as if even though I'm far from being the >youngest,I saw Roxy and Bryan for the first time later >than anyone.They had always been one of my favourite >bands,Bryan my favourite singer by far,I had all the >vinyl albums,cds,and videos,but had never seen them >live until the reunion gig at the BBC Riverside studio >in may 2001,so do I win an award for that?JL. No, you do not! My one and only Roxy concert was in Copenhagen 18 September 2001 and you woundn't believe how OLD I AM, Jeanne Louise! :) Kari ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 16:41:44 -0500 From: Karen Swenson Subject: [AVALON] Aa'll tell ye 'boot the Worm Better yet, hear The Lambton Worm for yourself at Click on the Bryan Ferry folder. I would have preferred a more traditional reading myself, and his voice seems a little weak. I'm glad to have it, but I'm thankful I'm fond of trad British Isles stuff, making the album (albums, as I bought both the anthologies) a worthwhile purchase. Karen NP: Alan Price, There's More to Life than Women and Beer ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 18:14:49 -0400 From: David Neuhaus Subject: Re: [AVALON] Fan Club Memberships I've found mine - #5833, I think from '76. Any other members from the US? Dave N. ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 23:47:59 +0100 From: "thom.wallace" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Aa'll tell ye 'boot the Worm - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen Swenson" To: Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 10:41 PM Subject: [AVALON] Aa'll tell ye 'boot the Worm > I would have preferred a more traditional reading myself, and his voice > seems a little weak. I'm glad to have it, but I'm thankful I'm fond of > trad British Isles stuff, making the album (albums, as I bought both > the anthologies) a worthwhile purchase. > > Karen First, many thanks to Karen for putting this on your site. Second, I thought "Goin Down" was pretty bad, but this is truly dreadful. Tom. ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 19:43:34 EDT From: Jocelynfiske@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: 30 Yrs. & still going Oh Malana, don't encourage him! The only Dylan song I've ever loved because the lyrics are soooooo venomous is Positively Fourth Street, maybe Ferry should cover that (the time seems to be right) but then Love War is his take on the same subject. ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 19:54:22 EDT From: Jocelynfiske@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Fan Club Memberships Oh Reecey will just say he was 001, and he probably had the bloody things printed and distributed and fixed!! I'd like to think I was 007 but from vague memory I think I was 200 and something around the 30's. I know, hang your head in shame. (I only joined to get a badge/pin) Oh just read Reecey's post. How right he is. Maybe it was the innocence of youth, but there was never any hidden agenda in the Roxy Club as was. It was run by Peter Leay out of Wallasey whom I visited regularly as he was practically a neighbour when I was at art college in Manchester at the time. We'd sit like too old dames with our big pots of tea discussing all things Roxy and on departure he' d suddenly stick an Eddie Riff red and white flocked sweatshirt in our hand (which I dragged out and wore out of respect to AM my all time favourite, betwixt gigs on the last Roxy tour) and say how nice it was to meet you. No quid pro quo. No big I am. It was in fact Peter who eventually wound up the club as EG was just letting it dwindle into obscurity, so doing himself out of a job, but thought it only far to the fans as they were receiving very little info at the time. A true gent, halcyon days indeed. Time to make sure my place in the Old People's Roxy Home is secure. Jocelyn ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 20:12:00 EDT From: Jocelynfiske@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Clothes 30 years ago.... Well Steve, I'm glad you sounded as terrible as I know I was for my first concert. Cloche hat, Etam powder blue tie belt coat. midi skirt and low-ish platform suede boots - it was the cheap Geordie slapper version of Biba. The next time it was nylon bomber jacket and 32 storey high platforms and I had the audacity to give Bryan Ferry a jacket I had made with Kari Ann emblazoned on the back in sequins (every one sewn on by hand!) He loved it (or pretended to) but then again I had no idea at the time that he adored the campness of ballroom dancing and never missed an episode of the BBC's classic Come Dancing. After that I blew my entire Saturday job savings on a chocolate brown three piece suit (like Lulu's Man Who Sold the World on TOTPs) from Bus Stop and my Mam bought me a trilby to go with it for my birthday! It looked great at the concert, but I couldn't see a bloomin' thing because being such a poser I'd propped it at such a ridiculous angle. We live and learn. Dress only for longevity and comfort these days and if I'd invented the Roxy Incontinence Trousers I could have made a mint out of you lot over the past few years. Antonio Half Price ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 20:42:15 -0400 From: "Victor Hastings" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re. 2 years ago soon : No, you do not! My one and only Roxy concert was in Copenhagen 18 September : 2001 and you woundn't believe how OLD I AM, Jeanne Louise! :) : : Kari That's me, Kari. I have been a fan since 1975 but my first concerts were in July 2001 (saw two in two days), and then I saw Bryan last November in Chicago. You probably wouldn't believe my age, either. ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 21:12:40 -0400 From: "Theresa Fagan" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Fan Club Memberships In 1988, my 4 month old car was totaled and my only regret is that I forgot to remove my "Roxy Music Club" decal from the windshield before it was junked! - --TriTri - ----- Original Message ----- From: | I'd like to think I was 007 but from vague memory I think I was 200 and | something around the 30's. | I know, hang your head in shame. | (I only joined to get a badge/pin) | | ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 20:19:26 -0500 From: "Judy Kaufman" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Fan Club Memberships - ----- Original Message ----- From: David Neuhaus > I've found mine - #5833, I think from '76. > Any other members from the US? I've got #3219. Judy ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2003 21:19:59 -0400 From: "Helen Thorpe" Subject: [AVALON] 30 Year club I first saw The Great God "Roxy Music" at Newcastle City Hall November 11, 1972. I saw them in Newcastle on every tour except the last one. However - I don't remember the set list at all. My uncle was meant to be babysitting me (I was really young), but didn't want to miss the show - so he took me with him. At the time I just thought it was really cool to be at a rock concert, and that my uncle was cool enough to take me. (Selfish, more like!) Thirty-odd years later, I'm still listening to Roxy. Oh yeah - it was lots of fun freaking out my family by singing along to Dreamhome. I didn't know what the lyrics were about, but the reaction I got was fabulous! Back to lurking... PS to JOB - which hair will you be washing in 2029? Or will you have any left? PPS to Jocelyn - How many of those Newcastle shows did we attend and missed each other, before we attended last year, and nearly missed each other? ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2003 00:03:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Aleks Kocan Subject: Re: [AVALON] Fan Club Memberships I think that the fan club folded when I applied to join. I guess that mine would have ended up being something like 4536728920 Aleks Yahoo! 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