From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V8 #82 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Monday, March 24 2003 Volume 08 : Number 082 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [AVALON] play the track list game [chris.clare@bt.com] [AVALON] you are . . . . ["anotherphotographer" ] [AVALON] Ferry & Lucy's split [KWil632057@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] Re: Ferry & Lucy's split [Colleen Matan ] Re: [AVALON] you are . . . . [Daniel Atterbom ] [AVALON] Ferry & Lucy's split-Freedom of expression ["Jas" ] Re: [AVALON] Ferry & Lucy's split-Freedom of expression [Colleen Matan ] Re: [AVALON] Re: Top 3 album covers ["frantic22" ] Re: [AVALON] ceasefire [JFROXY@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] ceasefire ["John M. Gray" ] [AVALON] please [cjem@his.com] [AVALON] Flesh and Blood [KWil632057@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] Flesh and Blood ["Christian H. Soetemann" And mine are.... > > Roxy Music - ReMake/Re-model (end section still gives me a grin!) > For Your Pleasure - Beauty Queen > Stranded - Just Like You > Country Life - Out Of The Blue > Siren - Just Another High > Viva - Both Ends Burning > Manifesto - Trash > Flesh & Blood - My Only Love > Avalon - Ouch..... hate to say it but More Than This (first Roxy tune I heard!) Christopher Clare : BT Onebill : Base Telephony ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 10:57:57 -0000 From: "anotherphotographer" Subject: [AVALON] you are . . . . You are the odd one out . . . . WHY? . . You are N.P.ing something by Roxy ' I thought it was forbidden to N.P. to NP anything by Roxy/BF . . . . . . . Only weddings & funerals etc . etc ciao young ernie - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Atterbom" To: Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 7:11 AM Subject: [AVALON] jspellman shout out > If jspellman is stillon list ,please contact me of list. > > NP In every dreamhome... Viva version > > > > Daniel > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 13:35:53 +0100 From: "Heather Buch" Subject: [AVALON] Re: Ferry & Lucy's split On Mon, 24 Mar 2003 04:05:04 -0500 (EST), avalon-digest wrote: Perhaps it is that "Ferry and Lucy's Split" takes peoples minds off topics that are depressing and/or horrifying. Heather > > Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 21:41:38 -0500 (EST) > From: Colleen Matan > Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: Ferry & Lucy's split > > On Sun, 23 Mar 2003 LizzieJim@aol.com wrote: > > > I don't understand this whole Bryan/Lucy divorce dilemna. Didn't he > > leave her first for Katy or is it now the other way around? Because it > > Does it matter? How could this matter to any of us since none of us > are involved? The truth is that we don't know what happened, and, > more to the point, we never will since we will always be on the > outside of this relationship. Hell, I was in a relationship where I > adored him and he, me, and yet it fell apart, and I have no idea > why. So it's extremely presumptuous to expect we can divine > something about the Ferry's relationship. > > I'm absolutely amazed at the amount of time and thought people have put > into posts tearing into one or other of the principals, assigning > blame, etc., about something we know nothing about, really, except > what is presented in a few newspaper articles, and, which in my > opinion, is really none of our business. > > Colleen > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 08:11:58 +0100 > From: Daniel Atterbom > Subject: [AVALON] jspellman shout out > > If jspellman is stillon list ,please contact me of list. > > NP In every dreamhome... Viva version > > Daniel > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > > ------------------------------ > > End of avalon-digest V8 #81 > *************************** > > ======================================================================== > For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > info avalon-digest Heather Buch ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 07:39:58 EST From: KWil632057@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Ferry & Lucy's split I agree. Who really gives a stuff or has anything interesting to say on the subject? As i thought. No one. Jonathan n/p Fonzi Thornton 'Fonzi sings The Cure' > I'm absolutely amazed at the amount of time and thought people have put > into posts tearing into one or other of the principals, assigning > blame, etc., about something we know nothing about, really, except > what is presented in a few newspaper articles, and, which in my > opinion, is really none of our business. > > Colleen ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 07:48:01 -0500 (EST) From: Colleen Matan Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: Ferry & Lucy's split > > From: Colleen Matan > > Does it matter? How could this matter to any of us since none of us > > are involved? The truth is that we don't know what happened, and, > > more to the point, we never will since we will always be on the > > outside of this relationship. Hell, I was in a relationship where I > > adored him and he, me, and yet it fell apart, and I have no idea > > why. So it's extremely presumptuous to expect we can divine > > something about the Ferry's relationship. > > > > I'm absolutely amazed at the amount of time and thought people have put > > into posts tearing into one or other of the principals, assigning > > blame, etc., about something we know nothing about, really, except > > what is presented in a few newspaper articles, and, which in my > > opinion, is really none of our business. On Mon, 24 Mar 2003, Heather Buch wrote: > Perhaps it is that "Ferry and Lucy's Split" takes peoples minds off > topics that are depressing and/or horrifying. Personally for escapism from depressing and/or horrifying things I would recommend turning off the TV and/or computer, taking a walk in the sunshine, doing your spring cleaning, listening to some good music, spending time with your friends and family, &tc., as opposed to poring over the sordid and depressing details--including trying to assign blame (!)--of a divorce which doesn't involve you. ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 14:18:37 +0100 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: Re: [AVALON] you are . . . . At 10.57 +0000 03-03-24, anotherphotographer wrote: >You are the odd one out . . . . And proud of it too. :-) I also walk the dogs daily. I am listening to some good music, spending time with your friends and family. The spring cleaning I leave to the cleaner. (My wife bought a Superman costume for the pug that graces the cover of Roxy Manchester 2001. I've realized that comic book collectors -- and I've met a few -- and dog owners have a few things in common. I am just waiting to see what she buys for the tapdancing pug. Any suggestions?) NP Badly drawn boy, Have you fed the fish? Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 07:22:02 -0600 From: "Jas" Subject: [AVALON] Ferry & Lucy's split-Freedom of expression Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2003 21:41:38 -0500 (EST) From: Colleen Matan Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: Ferry & Lucy's split On Sun, 23 Mar 2003 LizzieJim@aol.com wrote: > I don't understand this whole Bryan/Lucy divorce dilemna. Didn't he > leave her first for Katy or is it now the other way around? Because it Does it matter? How could this matter to any of us since none of us are involved? The truth is that we don't know what happened, and, more to the point, we never will since we will always be on the outside of this relationship. Hell, I was in a relationship where I adored him and he, me, and yet it fell apart, and I have no idea why. So it's extremely presumptuous to expect we can divine something about the Ferry's relationship. I'm absolutely amazed at the amount of time and thought people have put into posts tearing into one or other of the principals, assigning blame, etc., about something we know nothing about, really, except what is presented in a few newspaper articles, and, which in my opinion, is really none of our business. Colleen The reason we did is because this is a list about Bryan Ferry, his bandmates, post Roxy Music life, community, and that WE care. I feel sorry for him, his wife, and his kids. I'm a child of divorce. I'm also one who has his heart broken. Yes it's none of OUR business, but we can express our opinion's right? Why can't we weigh in if we feel like it or has the focus shifted? Let me know if I missed that post. My .02 Jas ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 05:24:03 -0800 (PST) From: mt cafe Subject: [AVALON] Re: avalon-digest V8 #81 >From: Colleen Matan >Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: Ferry & Lucy's split >On Sun, 23 Mar 2003 LizzieJim@aol.com wrote: > >I'm absolutely amazed at the amount of time and thought people have put >into posts tearing into one or other of the principals, assigning blame, etc., about something we know nothing about, really, except what is presented in a few newspaper articles, and, which in my opinion, is really none of our business. > >Colleen > Thank goodness to hear some sense spoken on this much overrated topic, its so bloody boring. More than that, it seems it's mostly those single women that are doing all the moaning about poor Bryan and how his pride has kept him from speaking out sooner. Then Jerry gets dragged into the argument; what has she got to do with any of it, she's history, long forgotten. Does anyone really believe Ferry gives a damn about her! To imply that going with someone for 18 months warrants twenty years of longing/yearning is madness. Let it drop so that we can get back to what is important.........the music! SJ _____________________________________________________________ http://www.lovemail.co.uk _____________________________________________________________ Select your own custom email address for FREE! Get you@yourchoice.com w/No Ads, 6MB, POP & more! http://www.everyone.net/selectmail?campaign=tag ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 08:29:18 -0500 (EST) From: Colleen Matan Subject: Re: [AVALON] Ferry & Lucy's split-Freedom of expression On Mon, 24 Mar 2003, Jas wrote: > The reason we did is because this is a list about Bryan Ferry, his > bandmates, post Roxy Music life, community, and that WE care. I feel > sorry for him, his wife, and his kids. I'm a child of divorce. I'm also > one who has his heart broken. Yes it's none of OUR business, but we can > express our opinion's right? Why can't we weigh in if we feel like it or > has the focus shifted? Let me know if I missed that post. If you go back and read my message more carefully, you are bound to note that nowhere in it did I say that folks can't weigh in on it. In fact, some of you know me as someone who frequently holds unpopular "opinion's" on this mailing list, and as someone who constantly speaks up to defend the rights of others to speak freely. However, I was using my freedom of expression to weigh in that given we know basically nothing about the real details of this situation, I personally think it's inappropriate, and kind of, well, pathetic, that people are spending so much time trying to figure out who is to "blame" in this sad situation. Or do I not have the right to express my opinion on this subject? Colleen ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 08:32:55 EST From: KWil632057@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Ferry & Lucy's split zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 14:49:54 +0100 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Renate_Schr=F6der?= Subject: [AVALON] Bryan on Radio Capital Gold Hi there, Yesterday I listened to Bryan on Radio Capital Gold, in the show "Bottom To The Top". Unfortunately I missed the beginning - his comments on the songs 20-14. Could somebody please contact me off-list and tell me about it? No need to send a tape to me. I've just seen 5 of Bryan's concerts in England, so if you're interested I could tell you about them. Renate ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 09:42:11 EST From: LottieStreeter2@cs.com Subject: [AVALON] Ferry Breakup... Colleen, I always enjoy your posts. I'm a bit shy and don't always respond to stuff. But this one, I have to respond to. Did you know you just gave yourself away when you said you and your ex, though deeply in love, broke up and you have no idea WHY? And so based on (what I believe is) an astonishing premise, you are assuming "no one CAN know why" people break up. I broke up with an ex I dearly loved and I know EXACTLY why. I correctly figured him (and myself) out and the years have proved me right. Of course I was very young at the time and lacked confidence in myself, which caused me to refuse to believe what I knew about him in my heart. If I had paid attention to my instincts, if I had paid attention to what his eyes said rather than what his mouth said I would have not been so achingly hurt. Bryan Ferry is a public figure. And for his first serious relationship, he chose the very-public Jerry Hall. By all accounts he was devastated by the excruciatingly public way she left him for an even more public figure. When this occured, the three players in the drama became part of modern legend. Jerry Hall proceeded to tell her side in a very interesting book. She reveals that she deeply loved Ferry, but they had trouble connecting in the day-to-day world. She was very young, very brash, very materialistic, and if you read between the lines you can see that she was looking for an unattainable cheater like her father. Which is what she got. Bryan responded with the song, "Kiss and Tell" featuring a Jerry-lookalike cavorting in a cowboy hat in the video. Through his art, through his chosen profession, Bryan Ferry shares his feelings with us. He guards his privacy to avoid being hurt, because the world is filled with cynical individuals who would take what they learned and use it to profit themselves. He doesn't mind us knowing what he feels, or he would have chosen a far different career, wouldn't he? Did you hear Susan Sarandon's speech at the Academy Awards last night? Public figures are public figures because they want to share, they want to connect with large numbers of people, and they want to influence us. Bryan himself has said as much when he said he chose to become a rock star (for want of a better term) rather than a print artist, "whose work would maybe be seen by 12 people". And he also wrote in what may be his most self-revealing lyric, "a place in your heart, dear, makes me feel more real." Note that he dedicated a performance of this song to the person he was arguably the most close to after his parents died, Simon Puxley. And note the context of this lyric : he is saying this to a perceived soul-mate he has JUST MET. What is a performer, after all, without an appreciative audience? Bryan Ferry would undoubtedly be devastated if we all listened to his lyrics and said, "I don't get it, I can't relate....give me Bruce Springsteen". Or whomever. Don't you see? We Avalonians ARE Bryan's appreciative audience. The majority of us go beyond just enjoying his work, we put forth the additional effort to figure out what he's saying through his lyrics, his song choices, his choice of collaborators. We travel all over the place to see him perform in person, we push our way to the front. We understand him and we appreciate him. In so doing, we make him feel more "real". And if he hadn't had the guts, the talent, and the circumstances to step up to the plate, some one of us would have and Bryan would be a member of this list. Of course he would surround himself with a group of friends who are all Avalonians too, and he would discuss his opinion on people's private lives with his close circle. Bryan Ferry is constantly musing about people like Greta Garbo and Marilyn Monroe (No one cares like I do....), and he doesn't draw the line at their public lives, he wants to figure out what makes them tick. He was fond of telling interviewers that his wife shared her birthday with Greta Garbo. This is the sort of personal information not every Garbo fan would know. An artist wants to find out what makes people (including himself) tick. So if we qualify as one another's close circle (I think we do) and we are not discussing Bryan cynically but sympathetically, then why shouldn't we do so? Bryan would..... Lottie ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 09:16:03 -0600 From: "Paula Brown" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Ferry & Lucy's split-Freedom of expression Colleen > we know basically nothing about the real details of this situation< Not saying I'm one of them, but I think it's naive to presume that there isn't anyone on the list who knows anything more than what's in the papers. I know of at least 3 people on the list who have had some peripheral involvement (various points over the years) and interaction with them and/or their peers and/or associates. This is not to say they or anyone would necessarily know intimate details of their marriage or want to know intimate detail of their marriage, although I wouldn't rule that out, but you know people do gossip in real life, not just on the internet. England is a pretty small place, particularly the music and fashion community. You are certainly entitled to express your opinion and be uncomfortable. I do recall that you came to Lucy's defense a couple of years ago when she was under attack for being a Plain Jane, so it's not like you've totally had no comment on it. It's rare that art is completely excised from the individual, nor should it be. I know Bryan wishes everyone would love him without being curious about his private life and I do know that the press sometimes goes way too far and that certain fans get out of control, which has made him very weary and paranoid, and with good cause. But I don't think it's fair to put the bulk of fans into that category. Art appreciation=identification. There's nothing wrong with that. Paula ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 09:34:44 -0600 From: "Paula Brown" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Ferry Breakup... Many good points, Charlotte. And let's keep in mind that the subject is usually in the subject line. If you aren't interested in it, it's easy to avoid reading in most cases. Charlotte: Bryan would..... > > Lottie Many good points, Charlotte. And let's keep in mind that the subject is usually in the subject line. If you aren't interested in it, it's easy to avoid reading in most cases. I think it's great that not everyone has the same facets of interest in Bryan. He should be too, though I know it's often inconvenient for him. Don't think he'd be happy without it either. I would also note here that if worldwide press finds Ferry's private life newsworthy to the masses, it's little surprise that so would his core fans. He is a legend in the making. Paula ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 16:41:30 -0000 From: "frantic22" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: Top 3 album covers Heres mine, 1: FYP 2: Stranded 3: Siren, (just the thought of Jerry having her "fanny hairs stuck to the costume" makes it worth it). Quote from Antony Price. Terry "O"> - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Shockley" To: Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 1:05 AM Subject: [AVALON] Re: Top 3 album covers > easy... > > 1. Country Life > 2. Roxy Music > 3. Stranded > > keith > NP: Blood Promise / Swans > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 12:02:20 EST From: KWil632057@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Re: lostribe@msn.com's offlist message. Apparently the worldwide press disagrees with you. You know, I find many posts to the list on many subjects boring, such as the repetitive going over the same old thing in adfinitum or the predictable cynicism, but I'd never be so rude as to insult people over it or act like "I find this boring and don't like it, so you're pathetic if you don't stop." It's a Bryan Ferry fan list. If the entire world press thinks it's relevant, little wonder his fans would too. Regards, Paula Thanks for your offlist message Paula, lets keep it on list in future, eh? If you think the worlds press are fascinated by the Ferry/ Lucy split then you are clearly deluded. Making two pages of Hello magazine does not constitute fascination. We are not talking about Taylor and Burton here. Despite your protestations, it is boring as the whole thing seems to fall into a: he's to blame, shes to blame loop. Who really cares? Are you a personal friend of either of them? Thought not. This list is not called Avalongossip.org, so lets stop this dull tittle tattle. It's demeaning both to you and to people who you can only speculate about. Jonathan ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 11:24:25 -0600 From: "Paula Brown" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: lostribe@msn.com's offlist message. Just so this doesn't escape anyone, the post to Jonathan below was done off list and he decided to post it, without my persmission. Well, Jonathan, I wasn't so much attempting to privately debate the Ferry/Lucy question with you as the question of manners and being needlessly insulting, but I see you have once again chosen to offend. I'll thank you not to presume to tell me what to do. I speak up because a lot of meeker people who feel the same as I do WILL be run off by the insults, and I don't think that's fair. Paula - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Cc: Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 11:02 AM Subject: [AVALON] Re: lostribe@msn.com's offlist message. > Apparently the worldwide press disagrees with you. You know, I find > many posts to the list on many subjects boring, such as the repetitive going > over the same old thing in adfinitum or the predictable cynicism, but I'd > never be so rude as to insult people over it or act like "I find this boring > and don't like it, so you're pathetic if you don't stop." It's a Bryan Ferry > fan list. If the entire world press thinks it's relevant, little wonder his > fans would too. > > Regards, > Paula > > > Thanks for your offlist message Paula, lets keep it on list in future, eh? > > If you think the worlds press are fascinated by the Ferry/ Lucy split then > you are clearly deluded. Making two pages of Hello magazine does not > constitute fascination. We are not talking about Taylor and Burton here. > Despite your protestations, it is boring as the whole thing seems to fall > into a: he's to blame, shes to blame loop. Who really cares? Are you a > personal friend of either of them? Thought not. > This list is not called Avalongossip.org, so lets stop this dull tittle > tattle. It's demeaning both to you and to people who you can only speculate > about. > > Jonathan > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 12:31:48 EST From: KWil632057@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Re: lostribe@msn.com's offlist message. Paula, Seeing as you chose to mail me off list without my permission I believe I hold the moral high ground here. Jonathan (Trying to win the fight against terminal dullness) Just so this doesn't escape anyone, the post to Jonathan below was done off list and he decided to post it, without my persmission. ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 11:34:11 -0600 From: "Paula Brown" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: lostribe@msn.com's offlist message. Think again. - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Cc: ; ; Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 11:31 AM Subject: [AVALON] Re: lostribe@msn.com's offlist message. > Paula, > > Seeing as you chose to mail me off list without my permission I believe I > hold the moral high ground here. > > Jonathan > (Trying to win the fight against terminal dullness) > > > Just so this doesn't escape anyone, the post to Jonathan below was done off > list and he decided to post it, without my persmission. > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 17:35:48 GMT From: cjem@his.com Subject: [AVALON] ceasefire > Paula, > > Seeing as you chose to mail me off list without my permission I believe I > hold the moral high ground here. > > Jonathan > (Trying to win the fight against terminal dullness) Actually, the greater breach of etiquette is posting private email without permission. This is not permitted here, please. Thank you. Colleen - --------------------------------------------- This message was sent from webmail.his.com. http://www.his.com/ ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 13:02:15 EST From: KWil632057@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] RE: A word about Net Etiquette for Colleen and Paula Ladies, It is my firm belief that you should NEVER post off list without being invited to do so. I wouldn't dream of it and i'm sure i'm not alone. If I am sent a message uninvited then it's mine to do with what I want. Suppose for example that the message was one that caused extreme offence. Keep it to myself do I? I'm particularly amused by Paula's idea that she is an expert on manners when she is happily discussing the private lives of people she doesn't even known on an open forum. Bryan Ferry would be really thrilled to know he has fans like that. The phrase 'Get a life' has never seemed so appropriate. Jonathan ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 12:19:22 -0600 From: "Paula Brown" Subject: Re: [AVALON] RE: A word about Net Etiquette for Colleen and Paula An open Bryan Ferry forum. It was going on before I got here, and it will be going on long after I leave. All I've done onlist is wish him well in various ways, that I recall, and make press available. Paula > > I'm particularly amused by Paula's idea that she is an expert on manners when > she is happily discussing the private lives of people she doesn't even known > on an open forum. Bryan Ferry would be really thrilled to know he has fans > like that. The phrase 'Get a life' has never seemed so appropriate. > > Jonathan ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 14:00:42 -0500 From: "John M. Gray" Subject: Re: [AVALON] ceasefire Now, now children....Give it a break, I don't think that this forum is intended for us all to vent our personal frustrations at one and other. OK I know that's what I'm doing right now but enough is enough! PS: Did Celtic lose to Inverness Caley yesterday...Again? - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 12:35 PM Subject: [AVALON] ceasefire > > Paula, > > > > Seeing as you chose to mail me off list without my permission I believe I > > hold the moral high ground here. > > > > Jonathan > > (Trying to win the fight against terminal dullness) > > Actually, the greater breach of etiquette is posting private email without > permission. This is not permitted here, please. Thank you. > > Colleen > > > > > --------------------------------------------- > This message was sent from webmail.his.com. > http://www.his.com/ > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 14:08:47 EST From: JFROXY@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] ceasefire In a message dated 24/03/03 19:01:43 GMT Standard Time, caledoniaci@sympatico.ca writes: > Did Celtic lose to Inverness Caley yesterday...Again? > Yes, but we humped Liverpool in the UEFA cup and are now in the semi's,Plus we will win the league again this year. Fool! JF. ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 14:17:53 -0500 From: "John M. Gray" Subject: Re: [AVALON] ceasefire Now, now.....don't cry in your beer, Fool?? - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 2:08 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] ceasefire > In a message dated 24/03/03 19:01:43 GMT Standard Time, > caledoniaci@sympatico.ca writes: > > > > > Did Celtic lose to Inverness Caley yesterday...Again? > > > > Yes, but we humped Liverpool in the UEFA cup and are now in the semi's,Plus > we will win the league again this year. Fool! > > JF. > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 19:17:07 GMT From: cjem@his.com Subject: [AVALON] please Jonathan wrote: > It is my firm belief that you should NEVER post off list without being > invited to do so. I wouldn't dream of it and i'm sure i'm not alone. If I am > sent a message uninvited then it's mine to do with what I want. Suppose for > example that the message was one that caused extreme offence. Keep it to > myself do I? 1. It is not rude to send a private email to someone on the list--or indeed anywhere else--without a formal invitation to do so (although the content of such an email may of course be rude). I would wager that the vast majority of people on this list have sent and received friendly private, and "univited" emails without any ill-effects. (and how does this work anyway? is an "invitation" issued along ? And if so, how? via email (an "uninvited" one?)? telegram?) 2. The writer of a letter retains copyright. 3. If folks on the list think they are abused by other list members, please contact me, offlist. That's what I am here for. Please do not take your concerns to the list at large. Thank you. Colleen p.s. I am not exactly able to respond as quickly I would like to things this week, so please be patient. - --------------------------------------------- This message was sent from webmail.his.com. http://www.his.com/ ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 14:29:05 EST From: KWil632057@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Flesh and Blood Does anybody know the names of the cover models on the Flesh and Blood sleeve? Jonathan n/p Ednah Holt 'Ednah goes Goth' ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 20:40:42 +0000 From: "Christian H. Soetemann" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Flesh and Blood Waltraut, Kriemhild & Hildegard. Christian NP: King Crimson - Eyes Wide Open - ---------- >Von: KWil632057@aol.com >An: avalon@smoe.org >Betreff: [AVALON] Flesh and Blood >Datum: Mon, 24. Mr 2003 19:29 Uhr > >Does anybody know the names of the cover models on the Flesh and Blood >sleeve? > >Jonathan > >n/p Ednah Holt 'Ednah goes Goth' > > >___________________________________________________________________________ >To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 21:06:14 +0000 (GMT Standard Time) From: "Russ Brown" Subject: [AVALON] NIA Sunday Night Hi all,=0D =0D Just wanted to say had a great time at the NIA on Sunday night , it was n= ice to meet Mark and Steve (put faces to names) Hope its not too long before = we get the chance to see Bryan again,wether its Roxy or Just the great man himself(and of course The Great Paul Thompson!).=0D =0D Russ. [demime 0.97c removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of IMSTP.gif] ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 22:17:58 -0000 From: "Stephen Scott" Subject: [AVALON] Knowing Bryan Ferry.......Aha! Anyone else see Alan Partridge interviewing Bryan on tonights show? (BBC2 UK) I only caught the last few seconds as Alan asked Bryan to write out a cheque for Comic Relief. "Name and cheque card number on the back please" Cheers the noo! Stevie Only 3 sleeps to go! See you in Glasgow on Thursday! ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 14:24:26 -0800 (PST) From: Joel Hurd Subject: Re: [AVALON] Knowing Bryan Ferry.......Aha! - --- Stephen Scott wrote: > Anyone else see Alan Partridge interviewing Bryan on tonights show? > (BBC2 UK) I've seen this sketch before. I felt Bryan was underused - Coogan could have done more with him. On a related point - does anybody remember the Fast Show sketch featuring an Australian character called Bryan Ferry? Very funny sketch! :) - ---joel . Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2003 17:30:59 EST From: OBrienFerry@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Caley/Celtic Off Topic In a message dated 24/03/03 19:17:26 GMT Standard Time, caledoniaci@sympatico.ca writes: > > > > > Did Celtic lose to Inverness Caley yesterday...Again? > > Being an Invernesian and Celtic supporter, it was a bitter sweet result for > me, though my highlight was when my son got his football top signed by > Henrick Larsson at the team hotel. > > J.O'B. ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V8 #82 *************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest