From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V8 #74 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Monday, March 17 2003 Volume 08 : Number 074 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [AVALON] Ferry Cheap cd's [Daniel Atterbom ] [AVALON] NIA Birmingham meet ["Mark Stephens" ] RE: [AVALON] ferry makes it into Sunday papers ["eRacerX" ] RE: [AVALON] Frantic - 1 year ["eRacerX" ] Re: Fw: [AVALON] Frantic 1 year on (Medium/Long post) ish ["Heather Buch"] Re: [AVALON] Frantic - 1 year [Colleen Matan ] Re: [AVALON] Avalon and Mamouna! ["Heather Buch" ] Re: [AVALON] Frantic - 1 year ["Heather Buch" ] [AVALON] AVALON album, etc. [LottieStreeter2@cs.com] [AVALON] SUNDAY TIMES ["richard-mandy" ] [AVALON] Mojo Mag [Chandla911@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] Mojo Mag [Daniel Atterbom ] [AVALON] Oxford Apollo ["terrypaulrigz8c" ] Re: [AVALON] Avalon and Mamouna! ["Rod LeCloux" ] Re: [AVALON] Avalon and Mamouna! ["Heather Buch" ] To leave the list, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon-digest ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 10:24:42 +0100 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: Re: [AVALON] Ferry Cheap cd's At 21.53 +0000 03-03-15, Mark Stephens wrote: >Checkout HMV giant clearout sale. I saw Viva Roxy Music and Mamouna Digitally >Re masterred versions for only #1.99 and most of the others at #4.99 Also >those twin packs in cardboard sleeves at #8.99 (Atlantic Years and Avalon). If anyone would be kund enough to buy them for me and exchange then for Scandinavian cds or plain cash I would be a bit less sad. My mother passed away Thursday 80 years old after suffering from blood cancer. These days it is easy to contact me off list. NP Ulf Lundell, Slutna rum Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 10:17:29 -0000 From: "Mark Stephens" Subject: [AVALON] NIA Birmingham meet Does anyone know the name of that pub, to the side of the NIA, next to the canal? It makes an ideal meet up place, I shall be there before the show with Steve Siren and co. I am in the process of moving my computer today, so it may be late before I can respond to any e-mails, we have a week to plan anyway, Regards, Mark ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 11:32:38 +0100 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: Re: [AVALON] Dream gig daniel.atterbom@odata.se writes: >Sympathy For The Devil > I Love How You Love Me > Baby I Don't Care > It's My Party > Help Me Make It Through The Night > Don't Worry Baby > Another Time, Another Place > Loving You Is Sweeter Than Ever > You Are My Sunshine > Fingerpoppin' > Tracks Of My Tears > You Won't See Me > Smoke Gets In Your Eyes > A Hard Rain's A-Gonna Fall > Funny How Time Slips Away > A Really Good Time > The 'In' Crowd > These Foolish Things Goodie > A case of "cover versions rule????????" No the set list of the 1974 solo tour. NP Ulf Lundell, Lycklig,lycklig Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 09:18:02 -0500 From: "eRacerX" Subject: RE: [AVALON] ferry makes it into Sunday papers >-----Original Message----- >Ferry's #10m divorce >by MARK REYNOLDS, Daily Mail >The settlement is likely to be one of the biggest in British legal history, >eclipsing the #7million paid by Mick Jagger to his former wife Jerry Hall. I really thought he was over her. 'Kiss and Tell' threw dirt in the grave. I guess Ferry just couldn't let go, and has found the final 'one upsmanship'. Your move, Jerry. - H. ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 06:24:07 -0800 (PST) From: mt cafe Subject: [AVALON] A Mad Affair! being new to the mail/post scene, can someone explain what "A Mad Affair" is? It sounds like a get-together of Roxy fans, but I'm only guessing. SJ _____________________________________________________________ http://www.lovemail.co.uk _____________________________________________________________ Select your own custom email address for FREE! Get you@yourchoice.com w/No Ads, 6MB, POP & more! http://www.everyone.net/selectmail?campaign=tag ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 09:28:46 -0500 From: "eRacerX" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Frantic - 1 year American, born in 1959. 1st Roxy: Stranded. Fave Roxy: FYP. Least Fave Roxy: Manifesto Avalon...?: My wife's fave, and 'To Turn You On' really grabs me. - H. NP: Robert Johnson: Red Hot Blues ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 15:27:25 +0100 From: "Heather Buch" Subject: Re: Fw: [AVALON] Frantic 1 year on (Medium/Long post) ish On Sat, 15 Mar 2003 10:42:38 +0100, Daniel Atterbom wrote > > Personally I also like the caption: > > The King of Sweden did not know his dead cousin. > oh you just reminded me....I must get in touch with my dead cousin! I saw a really great Danish headline a couple of weeks ago: The picture showed a couple having sex (not kidding, well they showed what they could)...and the headline said "SEX EXPLOSION!". It made me wonder if: a) there was an explosion in the rate of people having sex b) people were now having more "explosive" sex c) people were now blowing themselves up while having sex Heather ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 09:46:11 -0500 (EST) From: Colleen Matan Subject: Re: [AVALON] Frantic - 1 year On Fri, 14 Mar 2003, Heather Buch wrote: > Goddess of Love is a nice song, but the lyrics aren't convincing. > Besides, Elton John has already done an homage to Marilyn. Why Marilyn > anyway? She is just to mainstream to be a "Ferry girl." An homage to > Bergman or Audrey Hepburn would have been more convincing. A song about Do you know who Marilyn Monroe is? Colleen ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 15:46:40 +0100 From: "Heather Buch" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Avalon and Mamouna! I have to say I love Avalon. It is my favorite. I can listen to it anytime. For me it is perfect, timeless bliss. I was 10 when it was released, but about 15 when I started getting "into" the album. At that age, I couldn't really grasp the earlier stuff. I even bought a compilation of it and sold it back. Ferry's voice was just too strange at 15. Also, at that age I wanted Bauhaus, Nick Cave, Johnny Rotten, Robert Smith. 1993 - just graduated from college and met a very romantic guy. He taught me a lot about music. He loved two things - opera and Roxy Music. He played "If There is Something" for me and I suddenly understood. What an amazing song! The way it changes, and the way Ferry goes from being this cool lounge lizard to this desperate Heathcliff type "growing potatoes by the score." After that I bought For Your Pleasure, Mother of Pearl, Country Life, Stranded, Manifesto. Now (after meeting my '93 boyfriend whose heart I broke a couple of times until he finally got the last stab and the Mamouma concert and broke mine), I "got" the early music. Ferry no longer just sounded like a man with a funny uneven voice. I LOVE Roxy Music, For Your Pleasure, Stranded, Country Life, Manifesto, Flesh and Blood. My highlight songs on those albums - In Every Dream Home, If There is Something, Sea Breezes, Song For Europe, Mother of Pearl, Sentimental Fool, The End of the Line, Triptych (I was an art historian, I like Triptych), Bittersweet, A Really Good Time (I could go on) make me feel so intensely, much more intensely than Avalon. The lyrics sum up just about everything that I am passionate about - art, nostalgia, history, memories, decadence, stylized beauty "one thing we share is an ideal of beauty." But for me, those albums (all but Manifesto and F&B) are often too intense. I pull them out for special occasions. I can't just listen to them while looking at my computer or doing the dishes. Avalon is like a nice vacation for me. I can listen to it a little more frequently than the others..it makes me happy but the feelings it inspires are not quite as passionate and strange. Also I grew up with it. So there you have it - one Avalon fan's account. Heather On Sat, 15 Mar 2003 05:18:08 -0800 (PST), mt cafe wrote > I must confess that I'm quite offended by that certain "snobbery" > element that's being attached to the above. Perhaps you haven't > noticed but will now look for it and see the hypocricy?! For those > of us who came in at the beginning and found Roxy Music to be a new > and exciting experience in our musical lives found Avalon to signal > the demise of what we had come to expect from RM. The same goes for > Mamouna, with Ferry losing what had normally been fantastic solo > work. Through the years, nothing special 'til Frantic! I have seen > fans who would have thrown these albums on the fire suddenly raise > their arms and shout about how great they are, and that the rest of > us "don't get it"! Well, I don't and I never will no matter how > often I try to "experience" these albums. > > _____________________________________________________________ > http://www.lovemail.co.uk > > _____________________________________________________________ > Select your own custom email address for FREE! Get > you@yourchoice.com w/No Ads, 6MB, POP & more! http://www.everyone.net/selectmail?campaign=tag > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Heather Buch ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 15:52:21 +0100 From: "Heather Buch" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Frantic - 1 year On Sat, 15 Mar 2003 22:15:22 -0500, Keith Shockley wrote > Keith > NP: The Mercy Seat / Nick Cave > One of my all-time favorite songs! Heather ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 09:55:26 EST From: LottieStreeter2@cs.com Subject: [AVALON] AVALON album, etc. I agree with Karin! Avalon is an extremely romantic album. The realists out there need to understand that quixotism (idealism albeit lack of practicality, a word imspired by Cervantes' Don Quixote) has fueled some of the best art the world has seen, whether we are talking graphic art, sculpture, poetry, novels, or music. I think one of the reasons for appreciating Bryan Ferry is because his art encompasses so many media : poetry, music, graphic arts, performance arts. One thing about Avalon that makes it all the more poignant is that Bryan has said some of the songs (most notably "Take a Chance With Me") were inspired by his courtship and impending marriage. I was looking through the archives and found this article which gives his wife's perspective on their split. It is horrifying to say the least, and I'm wondering what the rest of you feel. http://www.femail.co.uk/pages/standard/article.html?in_article_id=133523& in_page_id=119 Also, Lucy is repeatedly referred to as a "former model". But I have yet to see a flattering picture of her... Lottie ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 15:58:20 -0000 From: "richard-mandy" Subject: [AVALON] SUNDAY TIMES Richard's just got home - brought back a copy of the Sunday Times. Bryan featured in article, Men With Style. Mmm - lovely. Mandy ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 11:15:26 -0600 From: "Judy Kaufman" Subject: Re: [AVALON] AVALON album, etc. Lottie Streeter wrote: > Also, Lucy is repeatedly referred to as a "former model". But I have yet to > see a flattering picture of her... Perhaps she modeled shoes for catalogues? Judy ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 19:10:42 +0100 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: Re: [AVALON] Frantic - 1 year At 09.46 -0500 03-03-16, Colleen Matan wrote: >Do you know who Marilyn Monroe is? "Writer Arthur Miller yesterday appeared before HUAC and revealed a past full of communist contacts and a future full of Marilyn Monroe." The New York Times 1956 (give or take a word or two translated back to English) I recommend "Norma Jean & Marilyn", the movie with Mira Sorvino and Ashley Judd Ashley Judd from 1996-97 or so. NP De La Soul, The magic number Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 13:23:57 EST From: Chandla911@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Mojo Mag In a message dated 2003-03-15 09:06:35 GMT Standard Time, terrypaulrigz8c writes: > > For UK readers, the April Edition of MOJO has feature called "Adventures in > HI-FI, Great Records and how they happened", this month it's Roxy Music. Terry omits to mention that, in the story, Pete Sinfield says, "Initially, Brian was a bit of a nuisance" before going on to say that eventually it was obvious that Eno was better at doing his job than Pete and the sonics thing was his thing. The sub-editor however was dozing and captions the article "Initially, Bryan Ferry was a bit of a nuisance". WRONG interpretation! Think that's bad? In the same issue, they match a review of the overly-researched but enjoyable book The Spider With The Platinum Hair biog of Mick Ronson with a pic of Bowie and the blonde guitar meister. Recently, I wrote a question to Ian Hunter at www.ianhunter.com and asked how reliable the book might be. I received a reply in the horses's mouth section (still there if you care to view) saying it's pretty much there. Unfortunately, despite the earnest photo caption that bills Bowie and Ronno together, the mag's own research lets them down -- they've actually used a pic of Bowie with make-up artist Pierre LaRoche. You so can't get the staff these days... Best wishes Richard n/p Today's official top 30 chart show on BBC Radio 1. Depressing... PS In the "100 singles You Really Must Own", they list Changes/Andy Warhol by DB and Virginia Plain/The Numberer by RM. Doesn't actually exhonorate them, does it? ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 20:30:59 +0100 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: Re: [AVALON] Mojo Mag At 13.23 -0500 03-03-16, Chandla911@aol.com wrote: > You so can't get the staff these days... Did not writers from Q and Mojo split to found Word magazine? www.wordmagazine.co.uk NP REM, The Wake-up bomb Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 00:19:30 -0000 From: "terrypaulrigz8c" Subject: [AVALON] Oxford Apollo Just back from Oxford, set list same as Brighton, two new vocalists add a lot to the overall sound, "Cruel" just gets better every time. "Tokyo Joe", great fun if a little shambolic. "Girls & Boys" also a highlight, loads of reverb on Bry's piano. Audience very sedentary until "LITD" when the whole place exploded. This show was MUCH better than the ones I saw last year, with the addition of the extra songs I felt I had value for money. BF on great form. If only they would drop "My Only Love & Limbo" (dreary dirges Live) & add "Love Me Madly Again". Terry "O" ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 21:10:57 -0600 From: "Rod LeCloux" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Avalon and Mamouna! >From: "Heather Buch" >Subject: Re: [AVALON] Avalon and Mamouna! >..." the album. At that age, I couldn't really>grasp the earlier stuff. I >even bought a compilation of it and sold it back. >Ferry's voice was just too strange at 15. Also, at that age I wanted >Bauhaus,>Nick Cave, Johnny Rotten, Robert Smith. Did I read this right? When you were 15 years old Ferry's voice was "just to strange". But, Bauhaus and Robert Smith's was not? Classic!! Rod _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 16 Mar 2003 22:43:26 -0500 From: "tmoq" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Frantic - 1 year - ----- Original Message ----- From: "eRacerX" To: "Avalon" Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 7:36 AM Subject: RE: [AVALON] Frantic - 1 year > I usually don't critique records too much, other than 'I like it' or I don't > like it'. > I just noticed , though, that I am not playing 'Frantic' much, at all. > 'Alphaville' is in the player quite often, however. > My sentiments as well. "I Thought" was a great surprise and worth the cost of the disc alone and I like Fool For Love every bit as much as the Alphaville version. However, the covers did nothing for me. All in all Alphaville ruled. Not that Frantic is a bad album and when you consider what else was out there, it looks even better. 2002 was a dreadful year for music across the board, IMO. There were a few bright spots.....Red Hot Chili Peppers' "By The Way" and the new Audioslave album just to name a few. So while I`m not quite ready to throw up my hands and declare "ROCK IS DEAD," I sure as hell can do without another year of ugly rappers spewing more ignorance/violence/misanthropy/misogyny and no-talent bimbo sluts. Gene ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 09:11:06 +0100 From: "Heather Buch" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Avalon and Mamouna! Yes, but when you are a 15-year old death rocker it can be hard to find things that are strange. Heather On Sun, 16 Mar 2003 21:10:57 -0600, Rod LeCloux wrote > >From: "Heather Buch" > >Subject: Re: [AVALON] Avalon and Mamouna! > >..." the album. At that age, I couldn't really>grasp the earlier stuff. I > >even bought a compilation of it and sold it back. > >Ferry's voice was just too strange at 15. Also, at that age I wanted > >Bauhaus,>Nick Cave, Johnny Rotten, Robert Smith. > > Did I read this right? When you were 15 years old Ferry's voice was > "just to strange". But, Bauhaus and Robert Smith's was not? > > Classic!! > > Rod > > _________________________________________________________________ > Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Heather Buch ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V8 #74 *************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest