From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V8 #52 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Monday, February 24 2003 Volume 08 : Number 052 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [AVALON] Sweet Tunes, Fast Beats and a Hard Edge [Daniel Atterbom ] Re: [AVALON] are you reading me? ["Heather Buch" ] [AVALON] She Sells [KWil632057@aol.com] [AVALON] favourites ["Carien Overdijk" ] Re: [AVALON] favourites [Go2Sweeney@aol.com] [AVALON] Michelle John-Douglas [OBrienFerry@aol.com] [AVALON] grammy consideration? [Mike Billmann ] Re: [AVALON] grammy consideration? [Colleen Matan ] [AVALON] Ferry related story from today's Sunday Mail ["Colette Robertson] [AVALON] New members ["Paula Brown" ] Re: [AVALON] Ferry related story from today's Sunday Mail ["Heather Buch"] Re: [AVALON] shame,shame,shame ["M" ] [AVALON] Production thoughts ["Paula Brown" ] Re: [AVALON] Production thoughts [Go2Sweeney@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] Production thoughts ["Paula Brown" ] Re: [AVALON] Production thoughts ["Rod LeCloux" ] To leave the list, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon-digest ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 10:50:37 +0100 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: [AVALON] Sweet Tunes, Fast Beats and a Hard Edge "People said I was king, but I was never king, and I say I'm the prime minister. Praise doesn't mean anything to me. I don't judge myself." - - CHUCK BERRY http://www.nytimes.com/2003/02/23/arts/23ROCK.html?th - - THE MUSIC THEY MADE - Sweet Tunes, Fast Beats and a Hard Edge The second installment of this series on the pioneers and innovators of rock 'n' roll features Chuck Berry. The article includes a slide show and audio clips of Mr. Berry's music. .................. THE GRAMMYS That Blob of Multiplying Genres? It's Music By JON PARELES The Grammys continue to add categories for more niches and subgenres in a delightfully futile quest that's something like mapping an amoeba. http://www.nytimes.com/2003/02/23/arts/music/23PARE.html?th NP Irma, Gor nagonting vackert Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 10:56:24 +0000 From: "Duncan Watkins" Subject: [AVALON] are you reading me? She Sells..... Great song, one that you could make up your own lyrics to, in the bits where Bryans singing made words indistinguishable.In fact today for the first time I actually looked up the lyrics on 'vivaroxy...'and was both surprised and impressed by them. In the days of 'musicassettes', cassette versions of albums often had different running orders to equal out the length of each tape side. This was the case with 'Siren' at least on my old 'island' copy: Side 1 Love is the drug/End of the line/Sentimental fool/Just another high. Side 2 She Sells/Could it happen to me?/Both ends burning/Nightingale/ Whirlwind. This was perfect for me back then, with my state of the art 'mono' mains/battery 'cassette recorder', no reverse play, in fact no rewind! (+ random tape chewing feature-but never 'Siren'). In my opinion,then and now; Nightingale & Whirlwind were 'average' tracks, so I would hit the FF button after BEB to get back(eventually!) to LITD. As 'She sells' starts both side 2 of vinyl and cassette version and given that in 'those days' people listened to whole sides of albums rather the picking tracks from a CD, I think Roxy must have considered it a strong track. Duncan. _________________________________________________________________ Use MSN Messenger to send music and pics to your friends http://messenger.msn.co.uk ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 12:41:06 +0100 From: "Heather Buch" Subject: Re: [AVALON] are you reading me? atoman wrote: >Anyone mince along to the Dicky Hamilton retro'? I was just flipping the >"She Sells";/ Hamilton line; "Slip it to me..." around m' noggin, and it, >again reminded me of Duchamp, the old rogue! Lots 'o times the BF employs >the Pop Art adage of "The found..", another amusing occasion of its use. >The Hamilton thing was fun, quite witty, felt like signing a few things >m'self! Yeah, I reread the lyrics to this one too...I like 'em too. Richard Hamilton...was he Ferry's art teacher? And he translated Duchamps notes, also the Boite en Valise notes, to English? There are elements of Duchamp in She Sells, and they actually hit at the heart of what I like about Roxy: Now you're fixing to fly me- Auto-erotic, please, On the break that you're gliding. Your lingerie's a gift-wrap Slip it to me Nine till five The daily grind Made-up lies Make up my mind Same machine consuming you Consuming you Oh why She sells I need Oh why love why She sells I need. - --------------- The "daily grind" - the chocolate grinder, right? The "same machine" could be the machine in "the large glass", the bride stripped bare...clever! And "Made-up lies", that's a bit of social marxist criticism of the commodification of people, beauty and entertainment. That's what I love about Roxy (and also Gang of Four, another British art school band who studied under marxist art critic T.J. Clark). They know that we consume each other, we work to consume and then consume entertainment and images. But they don't sing so overtly about it. Instead, they play along and make the images and the glamour. Roxy's image of glamour is the object of desire that we commodify, and that is what makes it so delicious. But it's also a reflexive image - it sees the shortcomings of the system that creates it, but doesn't make us suffer through the soapbox speeches about these systems. Well, sorry for the soapbox. But this song really hit a chord. Ciao, Heather On Sun, 23 Feb 2003 10:56:24 +0000, Duncan Watkins wrote > She Sells..... > > Great song, one that you could make up your own lyrics to, in the > bits where Bryans singing made words indistinguishable.In fact today > for the first time I actually looked up the lyrics on > 'vivaroxy...'and was both surprised and impressed by them. ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 08:24:06 EST From: KWil632057@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] She Sells Always reminds me of the kind of song that the Muppets would sing. (Not a bad thing) Jonathan n/p It Ain't Easy Being Green 'Brian Eno' ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 14:30:33 +0100 From: "Carien Overdijk" Subject: [AVALON] favourites New on this list, I'm happily surprised that so many peolpe share my RM/BF passion. I myself have a strong preference for all the early work: the first four RM Albums and the first three BF's are my absolute favourites. And funnily enough, the tracks from those albums that I originally disliked (like The Bogus Man) have crept their way up so that now I would really miss them if I could never hear them again. My experience is that you can grow into many of RM/BF's songs. Stranded was my first album, which I bought (at seventeen) in an impulse because I liked the title song. Back home, the rest seemed so weird that I initially regretted the expense. As I did not have many other records at the time, I played it nevertheless. It soon became a cherished and ever-surprising possession. So many athmospheres, so many poetic ideas, such romantic musicality... I am not so sure about the later work. Many later songs have become very dear to me as well, but I agree with earlier 'down'-votes for Amazing Grace (horrid song anyway), Goin' down and - sorry, whoever it was who said the opposite - I Thought. But as the latter two tracks are from Frantic, I might still grow into them... Have you Avalonians ever raised the topic of covers versus original work? There is no original track of BF's that I do not like, but I find I'm not happy with several covers. All the thirties' songs are okay for me, a lovely acquaintance with interesting music I would never have known otherwise. And the Dylan and Stones-covers from These Foolish Things are excellent, what's more, almost new in their presentation and arrangement. But I've never found that Bryan's version of Jealous Guy could equal John Lennon's...(even though it's great to hear and see him sing it live). One more thing as a follow-up on deceased fanclubs of the Dutchies among us. A long time back I bought a copy of the Bryan Ferry Magazine (1st issue, 1985), and only recently read it. It's very well made, with good black and white photography and interesting long articles on e.g. Boys and Girls and on the production of the Slave to Love-clip (earlier published elsewhere, I wonder?) It was apparently aimed at fans worldwide, considering the use of English and the pricelist for posting it to all continents... Maybe, Joep or Ron or whoever still has all three of them could make them available electronically to all Avalonians? Sorry for being so elaborate, Hoping to meet many of you on AMA2, Carien Overdijk p.s. What album is the disputed Cry,cry,cry on? I cannot find it. ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 08:43:25 EST From: Go2Sweeney@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] favourites In a message dated 23/02/2003 13:36:48 GMT Standard Time, c.overdijk@worldonline.nl writes: > p.s. What album is the disputed Cry,cry,cry on? I cannot find it. > Manifesto... And yes, cover versions. I'm okay with most of BF's cover versions apart from the one I keep mentioning, "All tomorrow's parties". If I had never heard the original, it would probably okay, I prefer Bryan's version to Japan's, but I still avoid listening to Bryan's version as much as possible. Now I'll shut up about this. Goodie ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 10:10:04 EST From: OBrienFerry@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Michelle John-Douglas Thanks to Colette, there are some pictures of Michelle John-Douglas at vivaroxymusic.com J.O'B. ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 07:14:13 -0800 (PST) From: Mike Billmann Subject: [AVALON] grammy consideration? I just saw on some entertainment news tv show that they are making a big hoopla about Rod Stewarts album and how he may get a grammy for it. Did Bryan get any such recognition with ATGB? Mike........PS. this is just a question. NOT trying to start another Rod vs. Bryan thread. Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, and more ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 10:33:24 -0500 (EST) From: Colleen Matan Subject: Re: [AVALON] grammy consideration? On Sun, 23 Feb 2003, Mike Billmann wrote: > I just saw on some entertainment news tv show that they are making a big > hoopla about Rod Stewarts album and how he may get a grammy for it. Did > Bryan get any such recognition with ATGB? _As Time Goes By_ was nominated in 2001 for the Grammy for Best Traditional Pop Vocal Album. Information courtesy of www.google.com. Colleen ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 18:12:38 -0000 From: "Colette Robertson" Subject: [AVALON] Ferry related story from today's Sunday Mail BURNED AT BOTH ENDS Feb 23 2003 #27.50 a ticket, #4 booking fee, #1.25 postage - and a phone bill for #16.05 Billy Paterson Exclusive JEAN TEESE is a devoted fan of superstar Bryan Ferry... but buying tickets to see his next Scottish gig tested her loyalty. It took her more than ONE HOUR on the phone - at a cost of #16.05 - to buy tickets to see him at Glasgow Academy on March 27. She bought four #27.50 tickets on husband Stuart's Switch card and by the time the #4 booking fee, #1.25 postal charges and phone bill were added, the bill was #143.30. Jean dialled a ticket hotline number set up by the McKenzie Group - who own the Academy - and operated by Ticket-master. And Jean, from Bearsden, Glasgow, is so angry she says she'll think twice about buying tickets for a gig from Ticket- master again. Last week, we revealed how English-based agencies such as Ticket-master are hiking up the price of concert tickets. We were flooded with complaints from angry readers who claimed they had been sold poor seats for concerts or ripped off by having to pay over the odds to see their favourite acts. Jean said: "The guy selling me the tickets was polite but he kept getting me to confirm and reconfirm the details. He said his computer wasn't working. I think he was just trying to keep me on the premium line." When we told concert organisers Regular Music - based in Edinburgh - they were shocked. A spokesman said: "We never gave permission for any of our tickets to be sold on a premium line number. The venue decided to do this. We will refund the cost of Jean's telephone call." Ticket-master said Jean had mistakenly phoned a premium-rate information line instead of a booking line. She added: "We would be happy to refund her if she gets in touch." Anne Cusack, of Cardonald, Glasgow, was also left feeling cheated when she bought three tickets to see Dolly Parton at the Clyde Auditorium in November. She phoned Ticket-master the day they went on sale to get good seats. But when the #20 tickets arrived they were for the poorest ones. She was so disgusted she stormed out. Anne said: "We were in the last row of the upper circle. Ticket-master said they'd give me good seats." Last week, we reported how fans queued for 18 hours for Eminem tickets at Hampden in June but left empty handed after a computer crashed at the Ticket-master outlet in Virgin Records, Glasgow. They were told the tickets had sold out. But London ticket agencies were selling them for a staggering #146.88. Joanne Michel from St Helens, Lancashire was charged #160 for a pair of #30 tickets - plus a #5 booking fee - by Dawson's Ticket Finder. Single mum Joanne said: "My 11-year-old son was heartbroken when tickets for the Hampden gig sold out. I got in touch with this agency who said they could get me tickets for Eminem's gig at Milton Keynes.It's ridiculous these people can get hold of tickets in the first place." Colette ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 13:07:53 -0600 From: "Paula Brown" Subject: [AVALON] New members Colette found a couple of photos yesterday of Michelle and I forwarded them to O'Brien so he could post them on www.vivaroxymusic.com. Can anyone say where Sharon White is from so we'll know if we have the right one before posting photos? Paula ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 20:53:51 +0100 From: "Heather Buch" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Ferry related story from today's Sunday Mail That really sucks. But "English-based agencies such as Ticket-master"? I thought Ticketmaster was an American company. I have hated them for years, but have purchased tickets through them as they were the only option. Heather On Sun, 23 Feb 2003 18:12:38 -0000, Colette Robertson wrote > BURNED AT BOTH ENDS Feb 23 2003 > > #27.50 a ticket, #4 booking fee, #1.25 postage - and a phone > bill for > #16.05 > > Billy Paterson Exclusive > > JEAN TEESE is a devoted fan of superstar Bryan Ferry... but buying > tickets to see his next Scottish gig tested her loyalty. > > It took her more than ONE HOUR on the phone - at a cost of #16.05 - > to buy tickets to see him at Glasgow Academy on March 27. > > She bought four #27.50 tickets on husband Stuart's Switch card and > by the time the #4 booking fee, #1.25 postal charges and phone bill > were added, the bill was #143.30. > > Jean dialled a ticket hotline number set up by the McKenzie Group - > who own the Academy - and operated by Ticket-master. > > And Jean, from Bearsden, Glasgow, is so angry she says she'll think twice > about buying tickets for a gig from Ticket- master again. > > Last week, we revealed how English-based agencies such as Ticket- > master are hiking up the price of concert tickets. ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 16:14:06 -0500 From: "M" Subject: Re: [AVALON] shame,shame,shame > Shock Horror:no Lucy,Sarah,Katie & Anna on upcoming british leg of tour! Makes me wonder why I am flying over for the London show. Bryan, right. After a long delay, my concert tickets finally arrived a couple of days ago. Phew! Back to watching The League of Gentlemen Series One DVD.... M ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ There was a young woman called M Who sat on Viggo Mortensen * He said, "Well M, my dear!" "Your waist brings such cheer" "I'll not look at another again!" ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ * A real-life event! ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 17:25:07 -0600 From: "Paula Brown" Subject: [AVALON] Production thoughts I've been listening to a lot of older music lately, and it seems to me that music production had pretty much reached 99% state of the art by 1973. Any thoughts? Paula ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 18:31:47 EST From: Go2Sweeney@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Production thoughts In a message dated 23/02/2003 23:26:14 GMT Standard Time, lostribe@msn.com writes: > it seems to me that > music production had pretty much reached 99% state of the art by 1973 On the whole, possibly yes. When I listen to all the new music that has come out recently, nothing really sounds "new". Punk started in '76/'77, but in a way, it had already been covered by Velvet Underground, but I still think all the punk music and the scene behind it was very exciting and interesting. Goodie ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 17:41:57 -0600 From: "Paula Brown" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Production thoughts Goodie: "On the whole, possibly yes. When I listen to all the new music that has come out recently, nothing really sounds "new". Punk started in '76/'77, but in a way, it had already been covered by Velvet Underground" Yes, and The Stooges as well. I thought 75's first Aerosmith, Jack Douglas, was a bit of a step forward, but still not that far away from what LZ had already done. I'm sure there were tons of small innovations, like the guitar layering Clink did on the first Guns N Roses in the late eighties, taking the front part of a note, the ragged part, setting it back to back with itself and layering that over long notes to get that particularly hard and jagged sound. There's a million little things, but even on the production-heavy music, guys like Eno had covered most of the bases by early seventies. Paula ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 17:46:43 -0600 From: "Rod LeCloux" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Production thoughts Um, Abbey Road came out before then.... Rod >From: "Paula Brown" >To: >Subject: [AVALON] Production thoughts >Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 17:25:07 -0600 > >I've been listening to a lot of older music lately, and it seems to me that >music production had pretty much reached 99% state of the art by 1973. Any >thoughts? > >Paula > > >___________________________________________________________________________ >To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon >Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html >US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 19:47:59 EST From: Avalon887@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Re: avalon-digest V8 #47 hi. I am here to say that 'Going Down" is one of my favorite songs on Frantic. I could live without his cover of "you are my sunshine." Overall, I like everything that comes out of his mouth. Regards to all, Eileen in Kew Gardens ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 21:37:31 EST From: DEAGLERR@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] are you reading me? Her's is a Lush Situation. Richard Hamilton often used (uses) advertising images as a basis for his art. The woman/car image, being particularly evident in the early days, Surely an idea he copped from Duchamp, who made a career of the sex as mechanism metaphor. (I.E. The Bride Stripped Bare By Her Bachelors, Even, Passage Of the Virgin To The Bride, etc., but surely not the Chocolate Grinder) ladytron? Headlights=pointy bras, Hips as fenders. Don't forget those disembodied smiling lips. If Hamilton had only made the proto-pop collage Just What Is It That Makes Today's Home So Different, So Appealing?, (1956) his reputation would be assured. Familiar sounding title? Here we are in an "everyday interior" collaged from LIFE, beefcake/pin-up magazines & comic books. A movie marquee out the window Hypes Al Jolson. The muscle boy uses a Tootsie Pop for a barbell. The girl on the Sears sofa sports a lampshade and pastie party attire. "Ordinary Vacuum cleaners only go this far" Just What Is It?, perhaps it's the Heartache? http://www.smcm.edu/art/arth100/smallworld/Pop/hamilton1img(b).htm She Sells is about seduction, personally, as Media and as a commodity. Remember the idea of Karri-Ann, a pretty girl can sell a commodity, why not Rock? A throw back to the Ray Connif Singers & their ilk, not selling the artist(e) but the sound. And a leap forward, trend setter to the covers of records in the future. Was there ever a cover girl the same AFTER the Roxy Music album? First verse is about girl as media, Headlines, up to the minute reports, mirror as looking glass and the Daily Mirror. Are you reading me or your own press? Better nouveau riche than nothing. The NEW has often been the IDEAL. ALL Styles served here, country, modern, western, eastern. Auto-sex. Autosex might help out in a pinch. FEAR OF FLYING, the Mile High Club, I'd imagine there's been a blizzard of tossed panties in BF's past. But then back to reality, put that Stroke Book down &head off to work, AGAIN. Work as a cog in the same machine that spits out our fantasy like. It puts out HER, it helps YOU get thru the tedium of life. Are you consuming or consumed? In the end, She Sells herself. Regards R Deagle At least list the full lyric! She Sells (Ferry/Jobson) Now you're talking in headlines Up to the minute and free Stop press, hold the front page Up as your mirror Are you reading me? Watch you walking in waltz time A jigsaw puzzle in tune Or are you faking a straight line To suit yourself too soon Rather nouveau than never Contemporary ideal Some natural kind of poet might slow it But she sells more my speed She sells country and modern Ancient western song Of oriental confusion You so right, me so wrong Now you're fixing to fly me Auto-erotic, please Of the break that you're gliding Your lingerie's a gift-wrap Slip it to me Nine till five the daily grind Made-up lies make up my mind Same machine consuming me Consuming you Oh why oh why she sells I need Oh why oh why she sells I need Oh why oh why she sells I need Oh why see why she sells I need Oh why love why She sells I need ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 22:09:54 -0500 From: David Neuhaus Subject: Re: [AVALON] are you reading me? Something about the lyrics listed didn't seem right to me, so I went up to the attic to the "Roxy" archives box, and found the "Roxy Music Fan Club" Lyric booklet from 1975. As per the booklet, the following lyrics: Now you're fixing to fly me Auto-erotic, please Of the break that you're gliding Your lingerie's a gift-wrap Slip it to me Are actually: Now you're fixing to fly me Auto-erotic pleas Off the record you're gliding Your lingerie's a "gift wrap" "slip it to me" And the second line from the next verse: Nine till five the daily grind Made-up lies make up my mind Same machine consuming me Consuming you is: Made-up eyes make up my mind... Mind you, I have gotten Ferry's lyrics wrong too. Memorably, "Oh, I was mooned by a string bean..." Dave N. ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V8 #52 *************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest