From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V8 #51 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Sunday, February 23 2003 Volume 08 : Number 051 Today's Subjects: ----------------- FW: [AVALON] Message to the old Dutch Roxy fans .... [Robert Vinkenborg <] Re: [AVALON] Great song, but... [Stevesiren@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] Great song, but... ["Rob Whiteford" ] Re: [AVALON] Scandinavian music ["Heather Buch" ] [AVALON] The News ["Paula Brown" ] Re: [AVALON] Scandinavian music [Daniel Atterbom ] [AVALON] deconstructing she sells ["Heather Buch" ] [AVALON] The new members ["Paula Brown" ] Re: [AVALON] deconstructing she sells [JFROXY@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] The new members [OBrienFerry@aol.com] [AVALON] Sarah Brown [OBrienFerry@aol.com] [AVALON] She Sells [atoman@uku.co.uk] To leave the list, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon-digest ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 10:38:49 +0100 From: Robert Vinkenborg Subject: FW: [AVALON] Message to the old Dutch Roxy fans .... From Jim I got these scans of same pages of Ferry Nice the magazine from the old Dutch Roxy-fans. Thaks so much Jim. Robert Vinkenborg - -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: Jimbo [mailto:jimbo@zeelandnet.nl] Verzonden: donderdag 20 februari 2003 18:47 Aan: Robert Vinkenborg Onderwerp: Re: [AVALON] Message to the old Dutch Roxy fans .... Hallo Robert, Ik heb de blaadjes nog wel. Hier is de 1e. Als jij hem online kan krijgen, kunnen we kijken of er interesse in is. Stelt eigenlijk niet veel voor hoor, maar het was wel een ontzettend spannende tijd toen, dat weet ik nog wel. Groeten, jim. - ----- Original Message ----- From: Robert Vinkenborg To: 'Jimbo' Cc: Avalon (E-mail) Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 10:01 AM Subject: RE: [AVALON] Message to the old Dutch Roxy fans .... > Hoi Jimbo, > > Ik was destijds ook lid van de fanclub, ook in een heel vroeg stadium. IK > heb met twee vrienden Peter Geel nog eens opgezocht in Rozendaal. Ik vond de > titel niks, maar het blad inhoudelijk erg leuk ondanks de beperkte middelen. > Zijn er nog bladen overgebleven? Het is misschien een idee wat blaadjes > online te krijgen. Hoeveel leden telde de fanclub trouwens? > > Groeten en bedankt voor het leesplezier van destijds. > > > Met vriendelijke groet, > Mediapunt > > Robert Vinkenborg > > Mediapunt > De Corantijn 27L > 1689 AN Zwaag > Tel.: 0229 - 28 39 77 gsm: 06 - 538 11 928 Fax 0229 - 28 39 70 > www.mediapunt.nl r.vinkenborg@mediapunt.nl > > > De informatie opgenomen in dit bericht kan vertrouwelijk zijn en is > uitsluitend bestemd voor de geadresseerde. Indien u dit bericht onterecht > ontvangt, wordt u verzocht de inhoud niet te gebruiken en de afzender direct > te informeren door het bericht te retourneren. > ================================================ > > > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: Jimbo [mailto:jimbo@zeelandnet.nl] > Verzonden: woensdag 19 februari 2003 17:54 > Aan: Robert Vinkenborg; Avalon (E-mail) > Onderwerp: [AVALON] Message to the old Dutch Roxy fans .... > > > Hallo, > > Ik kan wel wat vertellen van de Nederlandse Roxy Music fanclub. > Hij is inderdaad opgericht door Peter Geel uit Roosendaal, ergens in 1973. > De preciese datum ontbreekt mij helaas. > Ikzelf ben er een half jaar na het begin bijgekomen.. > We hebben in totaal 35 uitgaven van het fanclubblad "Ferry Nice" uitgegeven. > Per 1-1-80 is de fanclub opgeheven door verschillende redenen. > > Groeten, > jim. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Robert Vinkenborg > To: Avalon (E-mail) > Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 12:37 PM > Subject: [AVALON] Dutch Royy fanclub > > > > In the 70's there used to be a Dutch Roxy Music-fanclub. I was a member > then > > and recieved the magazine with the forrible name 'Ferry Nice' . Chairman > in > > those days was a guy called peter Geel, I recall. Since I moved a fes > times > > I lost contact. Does anybody know what happened to this fanclub? > > > > Robert > > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > > Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html > > US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html > US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) [demime 0.97c removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of 01.jpg] [demime 0.97c removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of 02.jpg] [demime 0.97c removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of 03.jpg] [demime 0.97c removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of 04.jpg] [demime 0.97c removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of 05.jpg] ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 05:40:44 EST From: Stevesiren@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Great song, but... In a message dated 2/21/03 11:34:14 GMT Standard Time, OBrienFerry@aol.com writes: > Sea Breezes (Roxy version) > > I love that track during the verses with Bryan's chorister vocals and > Andy's > haunting oboe but the middle section "now that we are lonely" sounds so > amateurish. It sounds as if it was the last thing they were working on when > > they made the album and hadn't time to finish it. > > I've got to take the opposite view on this one, the "now that.." is the part the song that turns an average tune into a great one. the live version on "champaigne & novacaine" (or is it "foolproof"?) is my favourite "live" Roxy track. Yes it does sound amateurish, but isn't it meant to be that way? Steve Up the Fosse ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 11:03:22 -0000 From: "Rob Whiteford" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Great song, but... Good thread idea this one I LOVE Fool for Love - but the next track skip button is hit as soon as Ferry sings his last "and love is blind" bit. The rest is bloody awful time wasting along the lines of The Name of the Game and Which way to turn - none of which need to be 5 minutes plus. Fool for Love would be so much better, as would Nobody Loves Me - without the overblown guitar. Any chance of "sign of the times" or "Casanova" at the Folkestone Gig please !!!!? Cheers Rob Cheers ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 11:11:02 -0000 From: "Rob Whiteford" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Great song, but... Does anyone know how ticket sales have gone for this tour ? Folkestone are still on sale - thought it might have sold out by now ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 15:00:51 +0100 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: Re: [AVALON] Great song, but... I must say that I either like or dislike a song. I like or dislike an album too. I prefer the Viva! versions to the studio versions, since 70's Roxy was a great live band, as was the 1982-83 and 2001 versions. My house is decorated in black and white... Not. We have one black and one black and white dog though. I love them both. NP Pink Floyd, Dogs Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 15:58:09 +0000 From: "Duncan Watkins" Subject: [AVALON] shame,shame,shame Shock Horror:no Lucy,Sarah,Katie & Anna on upcoming british leg of tour! They will all be missed-especially Lucy, her stage presence really added to the show! Duncan. _________________________________________________________________ Surf together with new Shared Browsing http://join.msn.com/?page=features/browse&pgmarket=en-gb&XAPID=74&DI=1059 ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 18:15:29 +0100 From: "Heather Buch" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Scandinavian music On Sat, 22 Feb 2003 06:22:10 +0100, Kari Solberg wrote That sounds excellent. Being from California, Kerovuac has been a favorite since visiting San Francisco with my parents at 13. Maybe he is something like Sebastian? Sounds a bit like it. We have a Sebastian CD, I think it's some Kurt Weill stuff. It's very good. > >Well the Swedish artist to listen to to learn the language is Ulf >Lundell. > >If you could imagne Bruce Springsteen, Jack Kerovauc and Kurt >Vonnegut all > >rolled up in one and singing in Swedish, you'd have Ulf Lundell. >Lundell is > >also a leading fiction writer, his first novel is one of the bestselling > >first books ever. Start with the album "Kar och galen" and take >from there, > >you have a back catalogue of 30 years to discover. > Heather, I'm sure you will find wonderful artists singing in Danish, > but I guess it's almost the same promblem in Denmark and Norway, > that the artists chose to sing in English, so the assortment is limited. > I like soul singer Hanne Boel among others, but she has no Danish > CDs! I can't see how you can learn Danish by listening to Norwegian > or Swedish music either! I have seen Danes and Swedes prefer to > speak English together! Hanne Boel..she reminds me a lot of Alison Moyet. And Odd Borretzen, ok. Too bad more don't sing in their own languages. Heather ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 11:29:42 -0600 From: "Paula Brown" Subject: [AVALON] The News FFor those who haven't seen it, here's todays news copied from www.bryanferry.com. I expect I'll get a whole rash of avalon mail later in one lump where it's obvious everyone already had seen it, but just in case you haven't: New line-up "posted 22.02.03 We can now confirm that Louise Peacock will be replacing Lucy Wilkins on violin and keyboards for the British leg of the tour starting a week today in Guildford. Also Michelle John-Douglas and Sharon White will be replacing Sarah, Katie and Anna on backing vocals. Bryan is also beginning another round of press in the UK and I will keep you up-to-date with details as I have them." Paula ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 19:19:37 +0100 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: Re: [AVALON] Scandinavian music At 18.15 +0100 03-02-22, Heather Buch wrote: >That sounds excellent. Being from California, Kerovuac has been a favorite >since visiting San Francisco with my parents at 13. Maybe he is something >like Sebastian? Sounds a bit like it. We have a Sebastian CD, I think it's >some Kurt Weill stuff. It's very good. I would not compare Ulf Lundell to Kurt Weill, do buy Kar och galen och judge for yourself, >Hanne Boel..she reminds me a lot of Alison Moyet. And Odd Borretzen, ok. >Too bad more don't sing in their own languages. I like Hanne Boel, she has a good voice. NP Something awful Swedish on the telly while my wife looks at dog ads on Text-TV Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 21:07:04 +0100 From: "Heather Buch" Subject: [AVALON] classical music a ferry query: Bryan Ferry is cultured and refined. Many cultured and refined people are classical music fans. Does Ferry know classical music? Does he like it? * I like classical music, but I can only listen to it when it is cold out, and I don't know anything about it. Heather Buch ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 21:33:42 +0100 From: "Heather Buch" Subject: [AVALON] deconstructing she sells OK, all this talk about She Sells. I had to listen again. I haven't heard it in a while. Not recollecting anything that I hated on Siren, I was pretty sure I was among the likers. I think she sells is boring until he says "9 to 5", then it gets kind of fun and campy. So it's a half and half song for me. But man, do I ever love Sentimental Fool! NP She Sells Heather Buch ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 16:22:35 -0600 From: "Paula Brown" Subject: [AVALON] The new members I was unable to find any photos except for a tiny thumbnail on the new band members. Louise Peacock was with Tarras, Lisa Stansfield and Ben & Jason. Primarily Scottish folk work with a classical training on violin. The only Sharon White I found probably is not the right one, as she was a singer married to a country artist, Ricky Skaggs. I'm assuming not the right person. Michelle John-Douglas has a gospel background and dances. Surely someone has photos and all the pertinent info they'd like to share?? Paula ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2003 20:34:40 EST From: JFROXY@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] deconstructing she sells In a message dated 22/02/03 20:34:52 GMT Standard Time, hbuch@www.thebuchs.dk writes: > <> I think "She Sells" is an excellent song, one of the best on "Siren," BF's singing is great and there is a lot of excellent playing by EJ going on in the background. Why didn't BF wrote more songs with Jobson, maybe because it would have pissed Manzanera and Mackay off? Talking of deconstructing songs, what about "I though"? I honestly cannot see what all the fuss is about on this one, it's just a simplistic little song that plods along and goes nowhere, the music is also very similar to the song "The River" which appears on the Eno/Cale album "Wrong way up." When you consider who wrote it, then you have to think, surely they could have come up with better than this, (although it is a million times better than "Wildcat days"). So, lay off "She Sells" JF np. "Kiss Alive" ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 03:02:00 EST From: OBrienFerry@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] The new members I have added some info on vivaroxymusic.com on the new members of the band though I haven't found any pictures yet. One interesting thing I found was that Louise Peacock has worked with Lucy Wilkins before. J.O'B. ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 03:06:19 EST From: OBrienFerry@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Sarah Brown Sarah Brown was on Parkinson last night with Simply Red whom she had worked with before Roxy. She was probably committed to working with them before these additional dates were added to the Ferry tour. J.O'B. ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 08:34 +0000 From: atoman@uku.co.uk Subject: [AVALON] She Sells Anyone mince along to the Dicky Hamilton retro'? I was just flipping the "She Sells"/ Hamilton line; "Slip it to me..." around m' noggin, and it, again reminded me of Duchamp, the old rogue! Lots 'o times the BF employs the Pop Art adage of "The found..", another amusing occasion of its use. The Hamilton thing was fun, quite witty, felt like signing a few things m'self! ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V8 #51 *************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest