From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V8 #14 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Wednesday, January 15 2003 Volume 08 : Number 014 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [AVALON] Pete Townsend Off Topic ["Mark Stephens" ] [AVALON] Pete Townsend Off Topic ["Mark Stephens" ] [AVALON] AMA2 ["M" ] Re: [AVALON] Another conundrum ["Doug Walsh" ] RE: [AVALON] brYan ???????? (AVALON)Bryan Eno article from CounterPunch ["Arnold Schulberg" ] [AVALON] white light/white heat ... white house ;-))))))))))))))))))) ["] Re: [AVALON] Another conundrum ["mark shanahan" Subject: [AVALON] Pete Townsend Off Topic Although I agree with his comments entirely just like to let you all know that this guy is not me !!!!!!!!!! Mark ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 11:04:40 -0000 From: "Mark Stephens" Subject: [AVALON] Shooting Stars If like me you are really annoyed at missing Shooting Stars last night, you can catch the repeat on digital, BBC Choice Thursday night 9.30pm Get those VCR'S at the ready! Regards, Mark ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 12:21:30 -0000 From: "Mark Stephens" Subject: [AVALON] Pete Townsend Off Topic Silly me , forgot to paste the quote about Mark Stephens, funny seeing my namesake in such controversy as I said "it's not me". Roger Daltry, Townshend's bandmate from The Who, said: ``My gut instinct is that he is not a paedophile and I know him better than most.'' Internet watchdogs have dismissed Townshend's explanation for entering an Internet site dealing with child pornography. Mark Stephens, a lawyer and vice chairman of the Internet Watch Foundation said: ``It is wrong-headed, misguided and illegal to look at or download or even to pay to download pedophiliac material and if you do so, you are likely to go to prison.'' Townshend was one of The Who's four founding members, along with bassist John Entwistle, singer Daltry and drummer Keith Moon. Moon died in 1978 and Entwistle died last year. ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 12:19:48 -0000 From: "Fiske, Jocelyn" Subject: [AVALON] Another conundrum Reported in today's Wicked Whispers in the Daily mail (which seems to be on a bit of a Ferry witch hunt these days): Which middle-aged stylish rock star likes his young girlfriend to dress up as Little Red Riding Hood so he can be the Big Bad Wolf? Anyone care to open the betting? Jocelyn ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 07:28:37 -0500 From: "M" Subject: [AVALON] AMA2 > gigs are in England during that week in March? Just a question. Will there be > an additional Amsterdam date? Are many Avalonians attending? I bet it's a > great party! I mentioned it to my boyfriend and he's willing to go to that as well if the airfare isn't too expensive. I have to do some research. Poor guy. I'm dragging him around to all this Bryan/Roxy stuff. M ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ There was a young woman called M Who sat on Viggo Mortensen * He said, "Well M, my dear!" "Your waist brings such cheer" "I'll not look at another again!" ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ * A real-life event! ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 23:39:33 +1100 From: "Doug Walsh" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Another conundrum > Reported in today's Wicked Whispers in the Daily mail (which seems to be on > a bit of a Ferry witch hunt these days): > Which middle-aged stylish rock star likes his young girlfriend to dress up > as Little Red Riding Hood so he can be the Big Bad Wolf? > Anyone care to open the betting? The Bogus Man indeed! - -Doug ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 08:07:52 -0500 From: "Arnold Schulberg" Subject: RE: [AVALON] brYan ???????? (AVALON)Bryan Eno article from CounterPunch Just take this offlist. It has no place here. Arnie - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org]On Behalf Of danyellow Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 1:48 AM To: avalon Subject: [AVALON] brYan ???????? (AVALON)Bryan Eno article from CounterPunch Well THis is not a peace&love&nowar list i can agree.... but I don't think U can call this shit..... shit is just the WAR and the (political)LIFE OF THAT GHOST OF BUSH hehehehehehe make-love-please-instead-of- DAN :-D - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arnold Schulberg" To: "AVALON" Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 5:48 AM Subject: RE: [AVALON] Fw: (AVALON)Bryan Eno article from CounterPunch > What is this shit doing on the list? > > Arnie > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org]On Behalf Of > Karin Whitney > Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 3:50 PM > To: avalon@smoe.org > Subject: [AVALON] Fw: (AVALON)Bryan Eno article from CounterPunch > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Karin Whitney > To: daniel.atterbom@odata.se > Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 12:49 PM > Subject: (AVALON)Bryan Eno article from CounterPunch > > > PLEASE!!! Quiet down in the Republican front! The majority of Americans did > not vote for George W. As for his forefathers, annihilating warmongers can > be > bred, and the South has always loved a good war. The problem being that war > should not be the answer to any countries financial solution, all in the > name > of OIL and control. And this time it will bloody well be a GLOBAL war with > nuclear capabilities, something I for one would not wish on anyone. > > PEACE IN THE NEW YEAR!! > > Karin > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html > US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html > US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 06:33:54 EST From: KWil632057@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Reeves/ Mortimer and Ferry..... If anybody wants to see a classic picture featuring Reeves/Mortimer and Ferry please mail me off list.......... Jonathan ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 08:13:22 -0500 (EST) From: Colleen Matan Subject: Re: [AVALON] brYan ???????? (AVALON)Bryan Eno article from CounterPunch On Tue, 14 Jan 2003, danyellow wrote: > Well THis is not a peace&love&nowar list i can agree.... but > I don't think U can call this shit..... > shit is just the WAR and the (political)LIFE OF THAT GHOST OF BUSH > hehehehehehe But I can call this shit and I have asked, repeatedly, that it be taken off-list. Take it off-list. Colleen ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 08:28:03 -0500 From: "Arnold Schulberg" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Another conundrum Well, the Sam the Sham and the Pharaohs reference is obvious and since Bryan has been doing "Wooly Bully" in concert it seems only natural to include Sam's other big hit in his life. Arnie - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org]On Behalf Of Fiske, Jocelyn Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 7:20 AM To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: [AVALON] Another conundrum Reported in today's Wicked Whispers in the Daily mail (which seems to be on a bit of a Ferry witch hunt these days): Which middle-aged stylish rock star likes his young girlfriend to dress up as Little Red Riding Hood so he can be the Big Bad Wolf? Anyone care to open the betting? Jocelyn ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 14:26:03 -0000 From: "Fiske, Jocelyn" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Another conundrum Well, the Sam the Sham and the Pharaohs reference is obvious and since Bryan has been doing "Wooly Bully" in concert it seems only natural to include Sam's other big hit in his life. Arnie Not just a single but a 1966 album too, L'ttle Red Riding Hood also contains tracks called Hanky Panky, Mary is My Little Lamb and Little Miss Muffet. The mind boggles. ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 15:47:55 -0000 From: "Mark Stephens" Subject: [AVALON] More For Your Pleasure Mirrors So we have broken through into double figures, and currently there are twelve confirmed list members with the full size mirrors, 6 were bought in Scotland, one of them for the amazing price of #5.00 at an Edinburgh flea market. It's sad to hear one or two stories of broken mirrors, one which cost #200 and was broken by the Post Office, I wonder how the one in New South Wales, Australia got there in one piece, obviously they didn't use the post office to send it.One or two smaller mirrors around, but the For your Pleasure Ashtray seems even more scarce with only about 2 or 3 so far. As a rule nobody will let any other person clean them. Congratulation to everyone who has managed to treasure these prized possessions and keep them in one piece for thirty years !! Anymore? Let me know off list Regards, Mark ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 12:33:45 -0500 From: KB Porter Subject: Re: [AVALON] Another conundrum "Not just a single but a 1966 album too, L'ttle Red Riding Hood also contains tracks called Hanky Panky, Mary is My Little Lamb and Little Miss Muffet." (The following is a one-line parody. Its model is a post from the recent Shakespeare shake-up:) OH MY GOD!!! I'll never be able to read Mother Goose again! I always knew those red feather props were nothing but ... props! ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 19:46:50 +0100 From: "danyellow" Subject: [AVALON] white light/white heat ... white house ;-))))))))))))))))))) well this could be the topic of the day hahahahahaah place or not place??? seeya kids the bogus dan now plaiyng J tull war child :-)))))))))))))))))))))))))) > > > Just take this offlist. It has no place here. > > > > Arnie ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 10:48:01 -0800 From: "mark shanahan" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Another conundrum i just breathe a hugh sigh of relief; knowing our man still has his sense of humor. phew! deft sam the sham 'catch' there as well. so, just exactly *how* does the daily mail get their news? and - how will this work its way into the new album? that's what i really want to know. well, that - and whether there's some miss muffet type stuff going on there too. which would have to be a spider-thing, right? ms >From: Fiske, Jocelyn;Fiske, Jocelyn > >Reported in today's Wicked Whispers in the Daily mail (which seems to be on >a bit of a Ferry witch hunt these days): >Which middle-aged stylish rock star likes his young girlfriend to dress up >as Little Red Riding Hood so he can be the Big Bad Wolf? >Anyone care to open the betting? _______________________________________________________________ Get the FREE email that has everyone talking at http://www.mail2world.com ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 19:48:43 +0100 From: "danyellow" Subject: [AVALON] british sixth sense of h... .-)) jeezes I always thought Colleeeeeeeeen got a real british sense of understatement humour it seems like i was wrong hahahaha Charlton EASTon bogus Dan PS the daily topic could be what do ya think about the white underweare Mr Ferry was showing off at Barbados islands ??? ok ok it's not so funny :-))))))))))))))))))))))) > > But I can call this shit and I have asked, repeatedly, that it be taken > > off-list. > > > > Take it off-list. > > > > Colleen > > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > > Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html > > US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 13:57:20 -0500 (EST) From: Colleen Matan Subject: Re: [AVALON] british sixth sense of h... .-)) On Tue, 14 Jan 2003, danyellow wrote: > jeezes > I always thought Colleeeeeeeeen > got a real british sense of understatement humour > it seems like i was wrong hahahaha Actually, I still do. And believe me, I was amused by everyone falling over themselves to agree with Mr. Eno. I could write a dissertation length post highlighting of the factual errors and omissions in Mr. Eno's account of American history. Except I don't have time to do so as I'm already writing a dissertation in American history. So take these words from the wise: "question everything." For Mr. Eno may have raised the rabble but he showed his great ignorance as well. Follow such leaders at your own (intellectual) risk. Colleen ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 22:32:47 +0100 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: Re: [AVALON] british sixth sense of h... .-)) At 13.57 -0500 03-01-14, Colleen Matan wrote: >Follow such leaders at your own (intellectual) risk. After spending a day or two in Stockholm, one of the most frequent cell phone cities in the world, I'd say: Watch the parkin' meters. And as Tip O'Neal said: All politics are local. NP Everything but the girl, Walking wounded Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 21:07:44 -0500 From: "Pete Seely" Subject: [AVALON] Why does Eno hate America so much? Well.... As someone who was "falling all over themselves to agree with Mr. Eno," I certainly would like to be enlightened by a "dissertation length post highlighting the factual errors" in Eno's essay. Since there was hardly an historical fact mentioned, we must be talking about the American values contained within. And which would those be? How about: "The America I lived in...was an act of faith-the faith that "otherness" was not threatening but nourishing, the faith that there could be a country big enough in spirit to welcome and nurture all the diversity the world could throw at it." Or perhaps you're referring to what he admires about America: "a vigorous originality of thought, and a confidence that things can be changed for the better." Or, maybe it's that America was founded to be different, and better, than other empires that preceded it. I have searched, but I'm still looking for those factual errors. Pete S. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colleen Matan" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 1:57 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] british sixth sense of h... .-)) > On Tue, 14 Jan 2003, danyellow wrote: > > > jeezes > > I always thought Colleeeeeeeeen > > got a real british sense of understatement humour > > it seems like i was wrong hahahaha > > Actually, I still do. And believe me, I was amused by everyone falling > over themselves to agree with Mr. Eno. > > I could write a dissertation length post highlighting of the factual > errors and omissions in Mr. Eno's account of American history. Except I > don't have time to do so as I'm already writing a dissertation in American > history. So take these words from the wise: "question everything." For > Mr. Eno may have raised the rabble but he showed his great ignorance as > well. Follow such leaders at your own (intellectual) risk. > > Colleen > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html > US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 23:09:54 +0000 (GMT) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Cathy=20Lennon?= Subject: [AVALON] Newbie hi and tix for sale Hi all Have been receiving the digest since Bryan's Manchester gig in October. It's been brilliant to find people as enthusiastic about the great man and his work as I am. Finally found out how to post messages today (thanks Colleen). Thanks to advance warning on list I managed to be second in queue for tickets for Bryan's Preston Guild Hall gig on 7th March (bad timing for many of you lucky people off to the Amsterdam meet I know). Anyway, I bought 4 front row thinking this was too good to miss but the friend I had in mind for 2 of them (a supposed fan!) doesn't fancy 'standing up for 2 hours'. They cost #28.50 each (which I thought wasn't bad compared to the last sets I've bought) and I would be very happy to pass them on at cover price (plus cost of recorded delivery) to an Avalonian who might want them. They are front row but over to the right of the stage, though not at the end I don't think. Would be nice to meet another Avalonian on the night! Anyway, if anyone is interested, please mail me off list and we can try and sort something out. Looking forward to it already! What a lovely surprise and great start to 2003! Cheers Cathyx Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V8 #14 *************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest