From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V8 #7 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Wednesday, January 8 2003 Volume 08 : Number 007 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [AVALON] Out of the blue ["Nigel Hollis" ] Re: [AVALON] New Bryan Ferry Tour Dates [Go2Sweeney@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] Out of the Blue (Fairly short post) ["Tim Kendrick" ] Fw: [AVALON] Out of the Blue ["Paula Brown" ] Re: Fw: [AVALON] Out of the Blue ["Andrew Shearer" ] Re: [AVALON] subterranean homesick blues ["Tim Kendrick" ] Re: [AVALON] Out of the Blue (Fairly short post) [Colleen Matan ] Re: [AVALON] subterranean homesick blues ["Paula Brown" ] Re: [AVALON] subterranean homesick blues ["thom.wallace" ] [AVALON] re: subterannean ["Paula Brown" ] Re: [AVALON] New Bryan Ferry Tour Dates ["M. Taylor" ] Re: [AVALON] career planning [Colleen Matan ] To leave the list, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon-digest ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 10:17:07 -0000 From: "Nigel Hollis" Subject: [AVALON] Out of the blue Tom wrote :- From speaking to fans over the last couple of months there seemed to be the feeling that their wallets could be doing with a break and that the earliest that they would have liked to have seen a tour coming along was either in the autumn or the start of 2004 Quite agree Tom. In my opinion I think that all Avalonians should concentrate any spare cash on getting themselves to AMA2, partly in support of Johnny/Jocelyn`s continued dedication and hard work and because of course, with Remake the attraction it`s guaranteed to be one hell of a weekend - plus prizes!! As far as the new Ferry tour is concerned, I think he has milked (skimmed) this cow enough. I too will not go out of my way to see another Ferry gig unless there is a major change in the set list. If I am exposed to one more rendition of JG - contract or not - I think I shall demand my money back. This may all sound unappreciative, it`s not and I have so much enjoyed the last tours, meeting fellow fans etc, it`s just that I feel we need a bit of a break. To put it bluntly, don`t start taking the p*ss Bryan!! Happy New Year to all. Nigel ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 11:54:28 -0000 From: "terrypaulrigz8c" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Out of the Blue (Fairly long post) Subject: [AVALON] Out of the Blue (Fairly long post) > Ferry has toured quite a bit over the last three years and I wonder if there > is really the demand to merit a tour which doesn't seem to be promoting > anything other than an album that has probably sold as many copies as it > will. Although I shall go and see this (probably try Oxford this time), the thought of this tour, although a surprise, fails to fill me with excitement like it should, if it is a different show then I might take in another show or two, if not then I'll stick to the one. The thought of DTS/JG/LITD and now (I never thought I'd say it) LST again does not fill me with hope. LMMA should deffinatly be included. Terry "O" ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 13:28:15 -0000 From: "Philip Adams" Subject: Re: [AVALON] New Bryan Ferry Tour Dates what I meant was , how do you get this information? I was very surprised to see a Ferry tour listing like that. The Shepherds Bush gigs intrigued as it is such an intimate (Small, standing room only) venue. I thought that he was going to do an unplugged tourbut some of the other venues are much bigger. So, John and the others , I remain sceptical. Until I see an official tour ad I 'm not convinced that this tour will happen. With much respect Philip > >how do you guys do it? > > Philip > > I'm not sure actually but there does seem to be a rather large beverage intake > involved in the overall process, but then after that, it gets a bit foggy. > Hope you are well. > > Cheers > John Dillon ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 08:47:48 -0500 (EST) From: Colleen Matan Subject: Re: [AVALON] New Bryan Ferry Tour Dates On Wed, 8 Jan 2003, Philip Adams wrote: > So, John and the others , I remain sceptical. Until I see an official > tour ad I 'm not convinced that this tour will happen. Would this do?: http://www.bryanferry.com/tour.html Colleen ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 09:03:51 EST From: Go2Sweeney@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] New Bryan Ferry Tour Dates In a message dated 1/8/03 01:32:56 GMT Standard Time, philipcadams@lineone.net writes: << So, John and the others , I remain sceptical. Until I see an official tour ad I 'm not convinced that this tour will happen. >> But some of the tickets for some of the venues are already on sale. Goodie ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 08:02:20 -0500 From: "Tim Kendrick" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Out of the Blue (Fairly short post) >anything other than an album that has probably sold as many copies as it >will. Does anyone - John O'Brien perhaps - know anything about final sales figures for 2002 on FRANTIC, both in the UK and internationally? It may be that Bryan's unending tour (shades of Bob Dylan) has helped shift a lot more copies. By the way, belated happy new year to you all. So glad Colleen will be here to keep AVALON buzzing through 2003.( And even more belated happy Christmas, Hannukah, whatever. Spanish Avalonians apparently also get Epiphany on Jan 6th, when the three wise men bring gifts to all good children. Didn't know that, didya?) Tim ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 14:23:49 -0000 From: "Philip Adams" Subject: Re: [AVALON] New Bryan Ferry Tour Dates So, John , you better start shipping over that humble pie as I 'll have eaten all my words pretty soon. Sincerest of apologies. Unfortunately, a call to the credit card hotline for the tour produced no results. No listing for Ferry tickets. www.bryanferry.com has misled us before but I guess its there in b&w. Tour dates for 2003. This is so unlike Ferry - another hefty British leg to the tour. Is he imitating his idol, Dylan, by touring endlessly as he reaches real maturity? is it possible to have too much of a good thing? has anyone secured tickets? Philip , less sceptical, more puzzled - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: 08 January 2003 14:03 Subject: Re: [AVALON] New Bryan Ferry Tour Dates > In a message dated 1/8/03 01:32:56 GMT Standard Time, > philipcadams@lineone.net writes: > > << So, John and the others , I remain sceptical. Until I see an official tour > ad I 'm not convinced that this tour will happen. >> > > But some of the tickets for some of the venues are already on sale. > Goodie > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html > US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 09:38:19 EST From: Go2Sweeney@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] New Bryan Ferry Tour Dates In a message dated 1/8/03 02:29:12 GMT Standard Time, philipcadams@lineone.net writes: << is it possible to have too much of a good thing? has anyone secured tickets? >> I rang the number given, and yes, they have tickets for sale, but not yet the ones I'm after, but they expect those for tomorrow. Goodie I ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 14:48:46 -0000 From: "Colette Robertson" Subject: Fw: [AVALON] New Bryan Ferry Tour Dates - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colette Robertson" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 2:43 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] New Bryan Ferry Tour Dates > They don't seem to be on sale yet! No luck with the number given on BF.com > and tried a couple of venues direct and they didn't have any information on > Ferry at all. > > Colette > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 2:03 PM > Subject: Re: [AVALON] New Bryan Ferry Tour Dates > > > > In a message dated 1/8/03 01:32:56 GMT Standard Time, > > philipcadams@lineone.net writes: > > > > << So, John and the others , I remain sceptical. Until I see an official > tour > > ad I 'm not convinced that this tour will happen. >> > > > > But some of the tickets for some of the venues are already on sale. > > Goodie > > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > > Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html > > US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 10:24:49 -0500 From: "Victor Hastings" Subject: [AVALON] Got a spare $1000? I love this: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=936279771&ssPageName=ADME :B:SS:US:1 For those who don't want to follow the link, it's a "For Your Pleasure" collectible mirror. Bidding starts at US$1,000.00. Fans who have been spending their money on Ferry tickets now have an alternative. ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 09:34:49 -0600 From: "Paula Brown" Subject: Fw: [AVALON] Out of the Blue > > Does anyone - John O'Brien perhaps - know anything > > about final sales figures for 2002 on FRANTIC, both in > > the UK and internationally? It may be that Bryan's > > unending tour (shades of Bob Dylan) has helped shift a lot > > more copies.< CD sales in general are so depressed that I'm pretty sure touring (and tour merchandise) is about the only way left for artists to make money, so we may see a lot more of it from everyone. Which worries me a little since Ferry recently said in an interview he can't write on the road. That's a bad situation. I thought everyone wrote on the road. I mean, what else is there to do on the road?? Personally, especially since he never comes within a thousand miles of Texas, I was rather hoping he'd go sequester himself or whatever it is he does and write some Roxy-friendly lyrics and music. But if I was in UK, I'd go, of course. Paula ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 16:12:15 +0000 From: "Andrew Shearer" Subject: Re: Fw: [AVALON] Out of the Blue It strikes me as a good marketing ploy. They've hit the fans who are prepared to travel some distance and now they're going for the people who don't want to travel quite so far in the provinces. It might garner some more interest in the album and increase revenues from tickets and merchandise. Maybe it'll also create a larger audience for a forthcoming box set? Andrew _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM: Try the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 11:20:11 -0500 (EST) From: Colleen Matan Subject: [AVALON] subterranean homesick blues Am I the only person who thinks this tacked on tour is less about the money and more about not wanting to face reality? Isn't life on the road--indeed all travel-- a kind of parenthesis, always moving, everything up in the air until the last minute (barring the set list, of course, in Mr. Ferry's case, unless it's which song to drop), no routine, no mundane responsibilities, all relationships in a kind of here and now limbo-voodoo-warning-is-calling? Colleen ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 12:08:50 -0500 From: "Tim Kendrick" Subject: Re: [AVALON] subterranean homesick blues >no mundane responsibilities, all relationships in a kind of here and now >limbo-voodoo-warning-is-calling? > >Colleen > If only all of us could go on a world tour for three years to put off the messy reality of a relationship that's over! Tim ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 11:29:06 -0500 (EST) From: Colleen Matan Subject: Re: [AVALON] subterranean homesick blues On Wed, 8 Jan 2003, Tim Kendrick wrote: > >no mundane responsibilities, all relationships in a kind of here and now > >limbo-voodoo-warning-is-calling? > > > >Colleen > > If only all of us could go on a world tour for three years to > put off the messy reality of a relationship that's over! I agree! It's just the matter of playing the (right) angles! Colleen ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 11:30:07 -0500 (EST) From: Colleen Matan Subject: Re: [AVALON] Out of the Blue (Fairly short post) On Wed, 8 Jan 2003, Tim Kendrick wrote: > more belated happy Christmas, Hannukah, whatever. Spanish Avalonians > apparently also get Epiphany on Jan 6th, when the three wise men bring > gifts to all good children. Didn't know that, didya?) Polish Avalonians too (waving to Aleks). Colleen (my philosophy: the more presents, the better. Except we're not getting more Ferry dates here in the US) ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 16:37:23 -0000 From: "thom.wallace" Subject: Re: [AVALON] subterranean homesick blues - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colleen Matan" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 4:29 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] subterranean homesick blues > On Wed, 8 Jan 2003, Tim Kendrick wrote: > > > >no mundane responsibilities, all relationships in a kind of here and now > > >limbo-voodoo-warning-is-calling? > > > > > >Colleen And not to forget making lots of cash while doing it Tom. You can also contact me at: TomWallace@vivaroxymusic.com ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 10:41:11 -0600 From: "Forster, Scott" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Out of the Blue I've always wondered why he seldom ever tours in the southern US -- Texas in particular. There are a few of us that actually have taste in music. Very frustrating. He hasn't been here since the Mamouna tour if I remember correctly -- maybe it was Taxi. Scott - -----Original Message----- From: Paula Brown [mailto:lostribe@msn.com] ... especially since he never comes within a thousand miles of Texas ... ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 10:55:52 -0600 From: "Paula Brown" Subject: Re: [AVALON] subterranean homesick blues You could be right, a form of workaholism, making sure there's no time to think about things too much, though he doesn't strike me that way. Rather, he seems to dwell. But what do I know? As usual, I'm only projecting myself into it. I think it's probably at least equally about the money, though it may be easier to keep moving right now until all his personal stuff is settled and simply be pragmatic in that regard, especially with the paparazzi trailing him. A hypothetical example for why someone famous might not want to land at home for long could also be if a home or homes were on the market and being shown, too. I mean who knows what may be going on in the middle of the marriage breaking up. Whatever. Wish he'd bring it to TEXAS instead of trotting it around England for the third time (highly colloquial explitives omitted here). I can't imagine he has more ticket-buying fans in South America than the southern United States. Fuming, Paula > Am I the only person who thinks this tacked on tour is less about the > money and more about not wanting to face reality? No routine, > no mundane responsibilities, all relationships in a kind of here and now limbo-voodoo-warning-is-calling? > Colleen ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 11:16:30 -0600 From: "Paula Brown" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Out of the Blue > I've always wondered why he seldom ever tours in the southern US -- Texas in > particular. Forster< I think it's because our major cities are not close together like they are in New England, the northeaster US. It's like the easy tour for promoters to book and probably has the least overhead for the band. And of course, the midwest and south are not press hubs. But it infuriates me because every nobody new band that comes out and every washed-up old band manages to do a comprehensive tour of the U.S. one way or the other and I know that for a fact, so there's no excuse for it. I wouldn't advocate a lot of dates down south for Ferry's band, but I know the demographics and I believe they could support one date in Atlanta, one date in Miami, perhaps a date in New Orleans just for fun in a small venue, then play Houston and Dallas, go to Las Vegas, and then on to the West Coast. But you see their thinking. That's 6 dates, and it's taking them coast to coast, a lot of travel time. In northeastern U.S., they can do 6 dates in an area smaller than Texas. But it's still no excuse when they're going all over the world for two gigs, like Japan, and hitting South America and making the third pass at England. Unless he promises an entirely new set, I don't think this third UK pass is going to do all that well. I hope I'm wrong, of course. But I'm getting emails from people who go to every effing thing saying they're not going this time. We're out of $ and vacation time. For what a handful of us spent on going all over this past tour, we could have pooled our money and booked a private concert, I imagine. Paula ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 17:22:31 -0000 From: "thom.wallace" Subject: Re: [AVALON] subterranean homesick blues - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paula Brown" To: "Colleen Matan" ; Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 4:55 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] subterranean homesick blues > I can't imagine he has more ticket-buying fans in South America than the southern United States. > > Fuming, > Paula You might be surprised about that. It seems that if you hit certain areas of South America at the right time you can sell a heck of a lot of tickets. It's a bit like the north of Scotland in that not too many acts go there so when sombody does folk turn out more for a night out rather than any great admiration of the artist who is touring. The difference is of course in the north of Scotland you may be looking at an audience of between three to four thousand where in South America if you go to the right place at the right time you can attract an audience of ten to fifteen thousand if not more. I really doubt if he would attract the same number of folk in the south of the US as he would in the north of Scotland never mind the possible audience in South America. What will be of interest is whether or not the cancelled US show will go ahead if they aren't going to add any more. In the end it's all down to cash and contracts. Considerably less than fuming, Tom. You can also contact me at: TomWallace@vivaroxymusic.com ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 17:34:29 -0000 From: "terrypaulrigz8c" Subject: Re: [AVALON] subterranean homesick blues > Subject: Re: [AVALON] subterranean homesick blues > > > > On Wed, 8 Jan 2003, Tim Kendrick wrote: > > > > > >no mundane responsibilities, all relationships in a kind of here and > now > > > >limbo-voodoo-warning-is-calling? > > > > > > > >Colleen > > And not to forget making lots of cash while doing it > Tom. > > You can also contact me at: TomWallace@vivaroxymusic.com > Will he really make "lots of cash" from venues of this size?, I would of thought that the cost of a band with players like CS doesn't come cheap. I've now given it some thought and am looking forward to a great stripped down acoustic show. Wishful thinking Terry "O" ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 11:51:43 -0600 From: "Judy Kaufman" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Out of the Blue Scott pondered: > I've always wondered why he seldom ever tours in the southern US -- Texas in > particular. There are a few of us that actually have taste in music. Very > frustrating. He hasn't been here since the Mamouna tour if I remember > correctly -- maybe it was Taxi. Hey Scott, It was the Mamouna tour, December 4, 1994. The show was in Fort Worth and it sold out. The first Ferry/Roxy show ever in this part of Texas and it sells out. Not much reason to ever come back for more of our money is there? I'm far too complacent to travel to see Bryan Ferry in another state or country but if he played for two weeks straight in Texas, I'd see every show. Judy ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 11:57:35 -0600 From: "Paula Brown" Subject: [AVALON] re: subterannean Well, ALL RIGHT, if they're playing places in South America to hordes of people who don't even know or care who they are as Thom suggests may be the case, and may well BE the case, then that clarifies the motivation for this tour: $$$ Meanwhile, may I suggest Bryan have a care for his existing fans in TEXAS??? Sincerely, Paula ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 18:40:57 +0000 From: "M. Taylor" Subject: Re: [AVALON] New Bryan Ferry Tour Dates > > respect for ATAP festivities? I can see a few Avalonians running around > > like headless chickens ,wondering how to organise schedules ! And justifying why one should fly to the UK (again)! I mentioned the London shows to my boyfriend and he's open to going. I guess I'm due for a shopping trip in London (spring shoes and clothes!)and I can also meet his family. If we spend more time there, we could research wedding venues in the English countryside so that we're ready when that time arrives (not anytime soon). Although an Avalonian has offered to help research as well. =) M ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ There was a young woman called M Who sat on Viggo Mortensen * He said, "Well M, my dear!" "Your waist brings such cheer" "I'll not look at another again!" ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ * A real-life event! _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 12:46:25 -0600 From: "Paula Brown" Subject: [AVALON] Bryanferry.com tour revision/update From www.bryanferry.com, a tour update/revision: "Late Change to UK Tour Dates posted 08.01.03 / 17:42pm Due to a late alteration of the UK Schedule, the Reading and Cardiff = dates are... 20thMarch, Reading, Hexagon. 21st March, Cardiff, St. David's Hall. South American Tour Dates posted 08.01.03 South American shows we have to date are as follows... 11th February - Mexico City, National Auditorium, Mexico. 15th February- Sao Paulo, Credicard Hall, Brazil. 16th February - Sao Paulo, Credicard Hall, Brazil. 18th February - Rio De Janeiro, ATL Hall, Brazil." [demime 0.97c removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of spacer.gif] ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 10:52:12 -0800 From: "mark shanahan" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Out of the Blue (& into the Bank) _______________________________________________________________ Get the FREE email that has everyone talking at http://www.mail2world.com <-----Original Message-----> >From: thom.wallace >[cut]In fact the social gatherings before and after these shows almost >has more appeal than the announcement of the shows themselves. I just hope >that Ferry does use these shows to preview some new material and air some >stuff that hasn't been heard live for a long time. [cut] that's about where i am at this point. whilst the chicago gig was quite good (and in response to christian's post), i think i enjoyed the 'atgb' gig much more. getting together before & after the two gigs i went to on this tour - this was fun stuff. from colleen matan: >Am I the only person who thinks this tacked on tour is less about the >money and more about not wanting to face reality? yes. i was just thinking that too (upon hearing about the new dates). but - ah, what a way to go ... er, on the other hand -- if that's the case, why not change the setlist around. for cripe's sake. wake up. btw, from the keswick in philly: Still no word on a new date. The only word we have gotten about the show is that it shall be taking place early this year. If you wish to get a refund you can mail the tickets back with a note and we glady refund you. Sorry for any troubles. Keswick Theatre Box Office so, what's the deal, then - with this 'AMA2' thing?? is ferry playing - or just buying drinks for everyone at the bar? ms ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 21:47:13 +0100 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: Re: [AVALON] subterranean homesick blues At 11.20 -0500 03-01-08, Colleen Matan wrote: >Am I the only person who thinks this tacked on tour is less about the >money and more about not wanting to face reality? "But users, cheaters Six-time losers Hang around the theaters" Me? I am waiting for 801 reunion. "Don't follow leaders Watch the parkin' meters" NP Bob Dylan, Subterranean homesick blues Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 21:51:32 +0000 From: "Christian H. Soetemann" Subject: [AVALON] career planning I know many Avalonians do not favour JG (I'm not amongst those), but it was an example of a relatively spontaneous decision to record a single, albeit caused by a very sad event. Now, on a less existential scale, but not entirely without similarities, he has played 'Wooly Bully' on the Frantic tour. Why not go into the studio and record it as a single (which could be enhanced by rare tracks such as Let's Stick Together or Slave To Love, ha, ha)? I have yet to get to hear a version of WB from the tour, but people seemed to enjoy it, and it would at least mean one new track. As for hopes that the JG/LST/LITD section be dropped, I'd say: no chance. When you're surrounded by cognoscenti during the concerts, you'll easily get the impression everyone tires of the Greatest Hits section. But many conversations by BF concert goers I overheard suggested many hoped for Avalon, Jealous Guy, Let's Stick Together, Slave To Love rather than the "depressing slow stuff". So my bets are that much of it will persist during the next leg of touring. It's probably due to Ferry's strange position of partly being a mainstream pop star with a foot in more ambitious areas. I'm sure Ferry has many people around him suggesting what to do as next step, where to play etc., and the bigger the machine gets, the less you contribute to stuff like booking and so on. If I were allowed to give him advice, I'd suggest he record an album with just vox & piano, maybe with Robert Fripp on extraterrestial guitar on some tracks, Brian Eno doing treatments, backing vox and synths, and then give some intimate (solo?) concerts. Yes, I wrote that before... Christian NP: Lloyd Cole - Weakness ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 23:52:12 +0100 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Renate_Schr=F6der?= Subject: [AVALON] the thrill of it all!! Why doesn't anybody just say,"I'm looking forward to some more Frantic concerts"??! I must admit that my bank account is not in the best condition either, but nevertheless I've booked some concerts today (in the evening it worked...www.gigsandtours.com) and I'm going to travel to England again, hopefully meeting some of you at the shows! And so much criticism of Bryan....! Aren't we---as his fans---supposed to like and even understand him?? Most of the new venues are rather small and Bryan won't earn another million with them. And---what if he just enjoys performing on stage(he's said so very often!!) and getting a feedback from us, his audience??Or am I too blue-eyed and a little naive? I think Bryan loves doing concerts these days and the energy and the thrill of the shows help him to do his new album....which--I've read--he's going to begin with soon. Best wishes Renate ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 23:50:33 -0000 From: "Cassidy, Chris J (CPS)" Subject: [AVALON] New UK dates - set-list Hi Folks Well, what a surprise! Before I take out a fourth mortgage, does anyone know - is this in effect a continuation of the last year's tour and therefore likely to be more or less the same set-list? What with AMA2, March could be an expensive month! Regards Chris ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 19:04:20 -0500 From: "Arnold Schulberg" Subject: RE: [AVALON] career planning I'd suggest he record an album with just vox & piano, maybe with Robert Fripp on extraterrestial guitar on some tracks, Brian Eno doing treatments, backing vox and synths, and then give some intimate (solo?) concerts. Yes, I wrote that before... Christian Wow, does that sound great to me, Christian. I'd LOVE to see that happen although the chance is about zero or less. Arnie ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2003 20:43:36 -0500 (EST) From: Colleen Matan Subject: Re: [AVALON] career planning On Wed, 8 Jan 2003, Christian H. Soetemann wrote: > I know many Avalonians do not favour JG (I'm not amongst those), but it > was an example of a relatively spontaneous decision to record a single, > albeit caused by a very sad event. Now, on a less existential scale, but > not entirely without similarities, he has played 'Wooly Bully' on the > Frantic tour. Why not go into the studio and record it as a single > (which could be enhanced by rare tracks such as Let's Stick Together or > Slave To Love, ha, ha)? Or that Love is the Drug song. I mean, he never plays that one. > I have yet to get to hear a version of WB from the tour, but people > seemed to enjoy it, and it would at least mean one new track. I heard it and I did enjoy it, but based on my experienc I think it's a terrible idea for a single, and for a studio single at that. I think it's perfect as an on-again, off-again encore. > If I were allowed to give him advice, I'd suggest he record an album > with just vox & piano, maybe with Robert Fripp on extraterrestial guitar > on some tracks, Brian Eno doing treatments, backing vox and synths, and > then give some intimate (solo?) concerts. Yes, I wrote that before... An example of one man's meat is another man's poison: given this choice, I'd go for the studio Wooly Bully. ;-) Colleen ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V8 #7 ************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest