From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V7 #416 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Saturday, December 21 2002 Volume 07 : Number 416 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [AVALON] Re: how i got into roxy [Alanandalyj@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] How did you get into Roxy and Ferry? ["Colette Robertson" ] RE: [AVALON] How did you get into Roxy and Ferry? ["Arnold Schulberg" Subject: Re: [AVALON] How did you get into Roxy and Ferry? The first time I saw and heard them was the 1972 Virginia Plain TOTP performance. No cash to buy records in those days but I used to try and tape songs from TOTP by using and old cassette recorder placed in front of the TV. No doubt you will all remember how useless that technique was but it was better than nothing. Later on my pals big sister had RM and FYP and we used to play it to death when round at her house. I picked up a few singles in th early days but then when I started working and earning my own cash I went straight out and bought the back catalogue. Colette - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Theresa Fagan" To: Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 2:41 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] How did you get into Roxy and Ferry? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pete Seely" > > > | Ironically, I got into Roxy through a very back door route...through Eno. > > > I, too, first bought Eno records. Thank God there was a radio station in > Cleveland that played Eno in the early 70's! The Eno fascination led to > buying some Roxy Music records (everything an import!). They were also > played a lot on the same radio station (WMMS-FM). So when I heard that Roxy > Music were coming to Akron, Ohio in March of 1975, I thought I'd go see them > all by myself. After that first concert, it was Bryan Ferry for me for the > rest of my life (he unseated Bowie who was my current fab rave at that > time...). > > --TriTri > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html > US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 11:15:07 -0000 From: "terrypaulrigz8c" Subject: [AVALON] Sorry Off Topic Will anyone be recording the David Gray concert on Radio 2 on Saturday evening?, I'm not around but would like a copy. Terry "O" Will do swaps etc: ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 07:18:18 -0500 From: "Arnold Schulberg" Subject: RE: [AVALON] How did you get into Roxy and Ferry? Cleveland was a real Roxy Music hotbed which makes it puzzling that on last year's Roxy tour and this year's Ferry tour, he ignored that town. Well, I'm off for warmer climes for the holidays. Ferry Christmas and Happy New Year. Arnie - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org]On Behalf Of Theresa Fagan Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 9:42 AM To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: Re: [AVALON] How did you get into Roxy and Ferry? - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pete Seely" | Ironically, I got into Roxy through a very back door route...through Eno. I, too, first bought Eno records. Thank God there was a radio station in Cleveland that played Eno in the early 70's! The Eno fascination led to buying some Roxy Music records (everything an import!). They were also played a lot on the same radio station (WMMS-FM). So when I heard that Roxy Music were coming to Akron, Ohio in March of 1975, I thought I'd go see them all by myself. After that first concert, it was Bryan Ferry for me for the rest of my life (he unseated Bowie who was my current fab rave at that time...). - --TriTri ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 12:30:00 -0000 From: "richard-mandy" Subject: [AVALON] MERRY CHRISTMAS Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year Everyone. Re: Into Roxy I went to a festival to see Rod Stewart and the Faces. Came back a Roxy fan, been there ever since. Still a Rod fan too, except for the latest album....doesn't work at all for me. Have a great time all. Mandy ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 13:44:41 +0100 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: RE: [AVALON] How did you get into Roxy and Ferry? At 07.18 -0500 02-12-20, Arnold Schulberg wrote: >Cleveland was a real Roxy Music hotbed which makes it puzzling that on last >year's Roxy tour and this year's Ferry tour, he ignored that town. They did not book it. That's why Roxy Music hotbeds Cleveland and stockholm were left out. NP Prince, Purple rain (a song like Walk on the wild side passed censorship) Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 13:35:54 -0000 From: "Guy Lawley" Subject: RE: [AVALON] How did you get into Roxy and Ferry? HOW I GOT INTO ROXY AND FERRY By Guy Lawley, aged 16 (Well, I was then!) Way back in the early 1970s, some parents of English teenagers (mine included) were very wary indeed of pop music and other aspects of popular culture. This was a hang-over from the 60s when yoof culture had spawned rioting on the streets and the use of mind-destroying drugs, and was largely a plot by the Russians to soften up the young people of the West for invasion later. (This point of view, no word of a joke, was propounded by a woman called Mary Whitehouse when she came to lecture in my school hall about 1974, and my parents thought there was a lot in it. I thought Mrs W was certifiably insane.) In our house hours of TV watching were closely rationed and certain programs (Top Of The Pops, especially!) were banned outright. But I was exposed to the evil pop music every morning for about 15 minutes on the coach to school, from about 1973 onwards. I started to pick up a liking for people like Elton John and David Bowie. But this only got into my consciousness in a very small way. Mainly I was a good student who wanted to please the older generation. Very occasionally, when my parents were out of the house, I would re-tune the family radio away from Radio 4 (news, current events and serious drama) to one of the pop stations. Picture me sitting in a small kitchen, at a pale blue formica-topped table, experimenting with this guilty pleasure! Mostly I was indifferent to what I heard. I wanted to hear an Elton or Bowie tune I suppose, and they didn't come up very often during these short sessions. I can't remember liking anything else very much, and I wasn't really seduced into pop music with any degree of obsession, until... These Foolish Things by Bryan Ferry came on one day. That was IT. I won't attempt to describe my reaction, the feelings I had, in any detail. I can't remember them in detail anyway. But I still recall how much I loved TFT, how I had to hear that song again. (I don't remember which DJ played it, which is just as well, or I might find myself owing a debt of gratitude to some moron like Noel Edmonds.) I had my first summer job that year, 1974, and a little cash in my pocket for the first time. The local record shop had the album in stock. It became the thin edge of a wedge, the infiltration of pop music into our household. The poor old parents had to accept that Ferry clearly wasn't a hippy, wasn't exhorting his fans to bring down society, was even singing an old-time jazz standard (albeit in a somewhat new-fangled way). TFT had been recorded by Lester Young, a favourite artist of my dad's. As I learned more about Ferry, I was able to tell my father that he was a fan of Charlie Parker and Billie Holiday. As a jazz fan of long standing, my dad had to grant the man some credit for that. He also helped open my eyes to the humour and irony in some of Ferry and Roxy, at a time when I was inclined to take things too seriously. I didn't even know the old man was paying any attention when I played the records. Nice one, dad! And so the family straitjacket was loosened. My younger brother soon brought home Good-Bye Yellow Brick Road, I discovered the delights of Country Life, and worked my way back to Stranded, FYP and the First Album as soon as I could. If TFT (the album) and Country Life had solidified my liking for Ferry and a pop music sound, the first two Roxy albums were an even bigger revelation. I was immediately hooked by the combination of high energy and downright weirdness in that unique product of Ferry, Manzanera, Mackay and especially Eno. A love of Bowie followed, with side-tracks into Sparks, Be-Bop Deluxe and others whom I still like now. Through the storms of Punk (which I loved partly because I was ready for more of that sheer energy in music that I'd found in Roxy) and all that has followed, the first two Roxy albums remain touchstones of excellence for me. Later Roxy/Ferry work does not leave me cold, mind you. I'm sorry, Colleen, not to have found time to join the discussion of More Than This, for example, which I have always thought to be a very rich, mature and beautiful piece of music and lyric-writing. I'm on record as being a late convert to the brilliance of Mamouna, and Taxi, ATGB and Frantic all contain true gems which I will treasure as long as I'm around. Actually, just writing and thinking about how much pleasure Roxy and Ferry have brought to me over the years is bringing tears to my eyes! What a sentimental old Hector! Thanks very much, Daniel, for prompting this little tribute from me. And a merry Christmas and excellent New Year to all our readers! Guy Lawley London England NP: Christmas - The Players - -----Original Message----- From: Daniel Atterbom Sent: 19 December 2002 10:04 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: [AVALON] How did you get into Roxy and Ferry? At 09.52 -0500 02-12-18, Jonathan aka KWil632057@aol.com wrote: >I hate to stamp on the tide of good will that's flooding the last (my moneys >on her staying) but is there any chance we might go back to using the list in >order to discuss the music of Bryan Ferry and Roxy Music? You and everybody else can start by answerng my question: How did you get into Roxy and Ferry? NP Peter Nordahl Trio, Bill Strayborn's Lust Life Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 09:59:51 -0500 From: Bobby Subject: RE: [AVALON] How did you get into Roxy and Ferry? It was December 8th, 1972 and my friends and I went to see Jethro Tull at Madison Square Garden where Roxy was the opening act. Most of the crowd were not into Roxy and they didn't fair too well, but I really enjoyed them. The rest as they say is history. It was interesting going back to the Garden (Madison Square Garden Theatre) almost 30 years later for the reunion show with the same group of friends from 1972. Bobby NP Steve Harley - Timeless Flight ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 07:08:55 -0800 From: "R. Jackson" Subject: [AVALON] How did you get into Roxy and Ferry? I got in late, compared to most of you. My best friend when I was a kid had just bought his first car. It was a European Ford Capri and he had never tried to drive stick before. I took him out every day for about a week trying to teach him to drive his car and he'd just bought the new Roxy cassette (Flesh+Blood). I couldn't get enough of it. By the end of the month I owned a copy of it on vinyl as well as Manifesto. I listened to those two for ages before getting into the older stuff. I didn't own them all until Avalon came out and I went on a buying spree. Oh, by the way, he wrecked the Capri while we were out that week. He panicked while downshifting into a turn and drove straight off the road and into the brush. We spent the next four hours listening to Roxy while I tried to get the scratches out with rubbing compound before his parents could see what had happened. - -Rob ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 09:13:54 -0600 From: "Paula Brown" Subject: [AVALON] Article: Bryan's charity project hits target I'll only print a small portion here since it's mostly medical mumbojumbo, but if you'd like to read the whole thing, here is the link: http://www.thisisbrightonandhove.co.uk/brighton__hove/news/NEWS18.html Paula Hospital appeal hits #1m target A major appeal to buy vital hospital equipment has smashed its #1 million target weeks ahead of schedule. Christmas celebrations have now started early at the MRI scanner appeal office at St Richard's Hospital, Chichester. Fund-raisers were hoping to hit the target some time in the new year but donations have been flooding in over the last couple of months. The appeal was launched 19 months ago by Roxy music star Bryan Ferry and the appeal president, the Countess of March. A host of famous faces threw their support behind the campaign, including doctors and former All Creatures Great and Small Star, Christopher Timothy. A Magnetic Resonance Imager (MRI), is a diagnostic machine which can help people with a huge range of problems from cancer and stroke to back pain, sports injuries and circulation disorders. ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 16:17:17 +0100 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: RE: [AVALON] How did you get into Roxy and Ferry? At 09.59 -0500 02-12-20, Bobby wrote: >It was December 8th, 1972 and my friends and I went to >see Jethro Tull at Madison Square Garden where Roxy was the opening act. >Most of the crowd were not into Roxy and they didn't fair too well, but I >really enjoyed them. Have you read the description of the gig in Ian Hunter's Diary of a rocknroll star? NP Solomon Burke, If you need me Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 13:02:27 -0800 From: "mark shanahan" Subject: [AVALON] Fw: Re: bryan ferry in january or february thought i'd forward this mail from the keswick in philly. [not that this is tremendous info that you people don't already have. but - another avalonian reminded me of this thing called the internet ... and so i signed up for their updates (and also have started the long tortuous process of bugging them i little bits here and there).] it's my personal opinion that as many avalonians who can go to this gig should. just because meeting avalonians is half the fun. and - *you know* the setlist is going to be _exactly the same_, right? right?? ms _______________________________________________________________ Get the FREE email that has everyone talking at http://www.mail2world.com <-----Original Message-----> From: orders Sent: 12/20/2002 9:59:51 AM To: m_shanahan@mail2batman.com Subject: Re: bryan ferry in january or february We have not gotten any offical word from the Ferry camp. We have been told that it shall be rescheduled early next year. Whenever we get a new date we will inform those who bought tickets through us via snail mail. We also have an update on our website. When it does become offical we will also start re-selling tickets. Sorry for any problems. Keswick Theatre Box Office ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 20:57:12 EST From: InterEireann@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: how i got into roxy..and some additional off topic stuff TOTP 1972, although strangely enough VP was not my first single purchase. During the summer I purchased my first single (s), four in one day...Alice Cooper ..School's Out, Back Off ( Up ? )Boogaloo..Ringo Starr...ugh. Jo Jo Gun ..Run Run Run and ELO's 10578 (?) Overture..Virginia Plain was purchased some time after it left the charts..I was only 11 then so albums were out of reach until Stranded and TFT, my first ever album purchases ( again on the same day )..quickly followed by FYP and then RM I was not particularly into the arty/ fashion element of RM, but just found the sound so different..not being a fan of what then was termed as progressive music ( funnily enough I play Pink Floyd's "Echoes " over and over now ) or hard rock..RM was a sound that distinguished itself from the pop music of the day which anyone who was around will remember was quite dire. On the link to punk mentioned by several people, after RM version 1 punk came along and I liked it, visiting the Hope and Anchor in Islington sometime before reaching the legal drinking age to see The Damned..Roundhouse to see The Hot Rods..etc ..has anyone really worked out why there seems to be this link between RM and punk (as stated by artists and fans ) because on the face of it they are opposites..saw the link more obviously to the new romantics that followed.. These days I am retroed back to early RM..and sacrilege for this list perhaps but have a healthy respect for The Stones pre 1971..Gimme Shelter and Under My Thumb being two of the greatest tracks of all time IMHO Merry Xmas to you all!! ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 22:56:04 EST From: Chandla911@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] How I got into BF/Roxy In 1972, I was 14 and waking up fast to the new glam rock wave that was ushering in a new era. Bowie, you will be surprised to hear, was my first and foremost influence (Marc Bolan felt a bit passe once Bowie had geared up). There was this friend of mine, the younger brother of a boy from my school, who was also 14 and we would exchange news and gossip about pop music, rock music, call it what you will. His name was Steve Grey. He was the first person to point out Roxy to me when VP came out. I can't quite put my finger on it but there was something too grown up, too decadent, too stylish for me about Roxy. I loved the music, but the way they looked, the whole imagery thing made me feel self conscious. Can't really explain it. Anyway, I borrowed his LP records and bought the singles. I also demurred from going to concerts, believing the crowds that attended would be too stylish and I'd look too plain and stand out. Appalling thinking, I now see, but it's how I thought as a 14-yr-old. I did go to see Bowie at Earls Ct, London in 1973 and the crowd there was VERY glamorous and androgynous, but somehow I found Roxy more forbidding. Only when Stranded came out did I invest in the albums (including the two I 'missed'). For some reason, I didn't go to any of the tours until the Manifesto concerts. I feel a chump now, but that was how it was when I first got into Roxy/BF. Anyone even vaguely identify with that experience? Best wishes for Christmas and the New Year Richard Mills n/p Margaret Thatcher interviewed by Jimmy Young on BBC internet (strange but true) ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 23:16:00 EST From: Chandla911@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] BF on Later In a message dated 2002-12-20 09:05:51 GMT Standard Time, obrienferry writes: > what songs has Ferry played live on later? anyone? > > Will You Love Me Tomorrow (May 1993) > > As Time Goes By > Falling In Love Again (September 1999) > > Let's Stick Together > Where Or When > Love Is The Drug > Midnight Special (With Van Morrison & Lonnie Donigan) December 1999 > > Goodnight Irene > Don't Think Twice It's All Right (2002) Almost 10 songs, but just one original track among all those covers... Best wishes Richard Mills n/p 1996 Tony Blair interview by Jimmy Young on BBC Internet (sad but true) ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V7 #416 **************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest