From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V7 #374 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Monday, November 11 2002 Volume 07 : Number 374 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [AVALON] Ferry back in studio in april? [Daniel Atterbom ] [AVALON] Re: avalon-digest V7 #373 [Chandla911@aol.com] [AVALON] Re: avalon-digest V7 #373 [Chandla911@aol.com] [AVALON] Tick tock [Chandla911@aol.com] [AVALON] Re: Soulless and Bible Black ["R. Jackson" ] Re: [AVALON] Re: re siren sucks [Holloholloway@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] rock and roll hall of fame et le vote ["mark shanahan" ] Re: [AVALON] Re: avalon-digest V7 #373 [William Sommers ] RE: [AVALON] rock and roll hall of fame ["Arnold Schulberg" ] RE: [AVALON] rock and roll hall of fame ["mark shanahan" ] Fw: [AVALON] Poll Results, Siren sucks??? ["Mark Yates" ] [AVALON] Canadian shows ["M" ] Re: [AVALON] rock and roll hall of fame [DEAGLERR@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] Re: re siren sucks [DEAGLERR@aol.com] To leave the list, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon-digest ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 10:27:51 +0200 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: Re: [AVALON] Ferry back in studio in april? At 23.26 -0500 02-11-10, Keith Shockley wrote: >Yes, but isn't there supposed to be a live album from the reunion tour at >some point in time? No, it was the DVD. I wrote after meeting PhilManzanera: "The good news from Copenhagen is that there might be an offical live album from this tour!" and I must have missunderstood och or the CD was changibng into a DVD. Mea culpa. NP Ian McCulloch, Jealous guy Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 10:37:39 +0200 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: Re: [AVALON] rock and roll hall of fame >On Sun, 10 Nov 2002, Daniel Atterbom wrote: > >> At 11.49 -0500 02-11-10, Colleen Matan wrote: >> >But the United States *is* the home of rock and roll and of the musical >> >styles (jazz, the blues) that gave birth to it. >> >> Ah, this is an intresting question. Yes, the man who invented jazz in >> New Orleans, his name escapes me for the moment, ended up in an asylum. >> And Robert Johnson made a deal with the devil and died. > >But jazz and the blues predate Robert Johnson and Scott Joplin (and Jelly >Rll Morton and Fats [Waller] and Billie and and and)--while all of them >might have put a stamp on both musical styles, jazz and the blues have >their roots hundreds of years earlier, in slave "hollers", in Stephen >Foster, in the call-and-response of gospel, and even in the line singing >of New England churches. You can't codify it down to 2 people, one for >each genre. True, but things can start if one single person or act. March 4, 1933 is a day that changed the US forever. Like the Beatles on the Ed Sullivan show 31 years later. As Michael Barone writes "Our Country -- The Shaping of America from Roosevelt to Reagan", "Personalities do matter." Barone also states, which is might be besides the point, but is intresting nevertheless, that in times of economical growth the US is split polically from cultural conflicts. >> But I would like to argue that without four moptops from Liverpool rock >> would have been a passing fad. The US top 20 having few rock tracks >> after Buddy Holly's death 1959 and before 1964. > >? The Brill Building writers, Mr. Ferry's heros Elvis Presley and Bob >Dylan, Bob Dylan's electric converstion, The Beach Boys (and the surf >music movement), Bobby Darrin, Ray Charles, Jerry Lee Lewis, and I'll stop >there. But were they rock? And did they have hits att that time? To me Booby Darin is more pop then rock, not that I dislike pop, but it is not the pop hall och fame,is it? >> To me the genuine American music is black and very few of them have been >> honoured in Cleveland. > >Huh? take a look at http://www.rockhall.com/hof/allinductees.asp and you >may need to modify your statement. You're right, they are all there, incl Solomon Burke and Holland, Dozier and Holland. I did not do meresearch, but wrote from memory. And there are non-American acts: The Beatles, The Rolling Stones,The Who, The Jimi Hendrix Experience (partly), The Yardbirds, Van Morrison, The Animals, The Band, Elton John, John Lennon, Bob Marley, Rod Stewart, Led Zeppelin, Neil Young, David Bowie, Pink Floyd, The Bee Gees, Fleetwood Mac (partly), Paul McCartney, Dusty Springfield and Queen excl the non-performers like sir George Martin. But not one one-English speaking native among them. But I am glad that some people were honoured while they were still alive. >Also to take that point of view is to deny the exchanges that went back >and forth between black and white musicians and to deny the bravery of >many white jazz musicians who defied Jim Crow and segregation to work on >stage with black jazz musicians. It's as limiting, and as untrue, as >saying that the only genuine American music is white. Or Duke Ellington who took to sleep on the train with his orchestra, when asked why, he replied that the president travelled in the same fashion. Or, on a another level, the bravery of Mr Brown from Topeka, Kansas. >p.s. The Talking Heads are there too--inducted this year. Yes indeed. But I still think that Ian Dury and the Blockheads was the most original act to come out of punk. Sex & drugs & rock-n-roll. NP Marianne Faithful, Working class hero Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 10:32:57 +0200 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: Re: [AVALON] rock and roll hall of fame >On Sun, 10 Nov 2002, Daniel Atterbom wrote: > >> Is Bob Marley honoured? > >Yes. Inducted in 1994. The whole list this year is: AC/DC, The Clash, Elvis Costello and the Attractions, The Police & The Righteous Brothers. Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 09:38:11 +0000 From: philipcadams@lineone.net Subject: [AVALON] this album's better than that album I always thought Ferry set out to produce a different feel to each record. He really doesn;t repeat himself, contrary to what some might say. Every album has its own style , mood, look, call it what you like - we all have, for our own reasons , our personal favourites and some of us have our own bete noirs ( evidenced by the poor showing of Manifesto and Flesh and Blood in the fave Roxy albums and track listings compiled by stevesiren ) but I really couldn't say that Ferry/Roxy have produced a bad record. Perhaps another time time I'll list my thoughts on each one, though I'm probably partisan. Philip ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 02:51:28 -0800 (PST) From: Aleks Kocan Subject: [AVALON] Bob Marley off-topic > On Sun, 10 Nov 2002, Daniel Atterbom wrote: > > Is Bob Marley honoured? - --- Colleen Matan wrote: > Yes. Inducted in 1994. Q How does Bob Marley like his doughnuts?... A With Jam In... Sorry - couldn't resist it Aleks U2 on LAUNCH - Exclusive greatest hits videos http://launch.yahoo.com/u2 ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 05:52:56 -0500 From: Chandla911@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Re: avalon-digest V7 #373 In a message dated 11/11/2002 4:05:02 AM Eastern Standard Time, holloholloway writes: > What do people like about this album [Siren], i'd > like to know. Only the fact that it's billiant and a much more cohesive album than Country Life which depended on soft porn covers or not soft porn edited covers to get a place in the market place, seeing as how it hadn't moved on anything like as fast as the 1st album to FYP or from FYP to Stranded. Roxy was on such a roll in the early 70s and each album moved ahead at frantic (no pun intended) speed, then Country Life seemed like a stalling, then Siren sets apace again. Not Roxy at their best (that was the 1st album and/or Stranded) but a pre-cursor to later works like Flesh And Blood and Avalon while not so soulless. Best wishes Richard Mills n/p Amplified Heart - Everything But The Girl ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 05:53:37 -0500 From: Chandla911@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Re: avalon-digest V7 #373 In a message dated 11/11/2002 4:05:02 AM Eastern Standard Time, owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org writes: > why pick a mediocre selling,geeky looking, British > Buddy Holly lookalike who was kept off of American TV after > changing the > song he wanted to play. What is the story about changing a song? Please reply offlist if this is known to many and just not to me... Best wishes Richard Mills n/p Amplified Heart - Everything But The Girl ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 06:06:17 -0500 From: Chandla911@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Tick tock Went to see Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets yesterday. It was actually much longer than Bryan Ferry's recent concerts and, courtesy of John Williams, a lot more music. Is this a record? Nope, it's a movie. Best wishes Richard Mills n/p Amplified Heart - Everything But The Girl (of course, it's a full-length album) ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 03:16:38 -0800 From: "R. Jackson" Subject: [AVALON] Re: Soulless and Bible Black You know, while the latter Roxy output may well *be* "soulless," I still get a lot of mileage out of some of those tunes. "The Main Thing" just popped up in the random-play rotation on my MP3 player a few minutes ago and I almost stopped working to listen to it. It's probably because I was in my mid-teens when those albums came out and they were my intro to Roxy, but I still love them dearly. - -Rob NP: Primus "DMV" On Monday, November 11, 2002, at 02:52 AM, Chandla911@aol.com wrote: > Not Roxy at their best (that was the 1st album and/or Stranded) but a > pre-cursor to later works like Flesh And Blood and Avalon while not so > soulless. > > Best wishes > Richard Mills ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 03:38:06 -0800 (PST) From: Aleks Kocan Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: Soul less and Bible Black - --- "R. Jackson" wrote: I > still get a lot of mileage out of some of those > tunes. It's probably > because I was in my mid-teens when those albums came > out and they were > my intro to Roxy, but I still love them dearly. Quite true, it's a shame that the poll doesn't indicate when people got into Roxy/Ferry. My favourite album is Siren, although I still like Manifesto, Flesh+Blood etc...I'd guess it's partially down to the fact that I got into Roxy/Ferry in the late 70's. I've never been able to get into the first Roxy album and it remains one of my least favourites (Richard - got any of that blue touch paper left to ignite?) Aleks U2 on LAUNCH - Exclusive greatest hits videos http://launch.yahoo.com/u2 ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 07:02:18 EST From: Alanandalyj@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Re: re siren sucks Siren is truly a roxy masterpiece contains arguably the best roxy single Both Ends Burning the classic Love Is A Drug. 3 of Roxy/Bryans most melancholic tracks End of The Line,Sentimental Fool,Could It Happen To Me? (helped me through my divorce). The brilliant Whirlwind Roxy really cooking .Nightingale with Bryans excellent vocals wonderful opening. The climatic Just Another High.She sells is the only flawed track and that's ok Alan music lover first & foremost ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 08:15:10 -0500 From: "Jean Lemay" Subject: [AVALON] MONTREAL CONCERT REVIEW (in french) MONTREAL CONCERT REVIEW (in french) : http://www.cyberpresse.ca/reseau/arts/0211/art_102110155828.html ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 08:11:18 -0500 From: "Jean Lemay" Subject: [AVALON] TORONTO CONCERT REVIEW http://www.canoe.ca/TorontoShowbiz/ts.ts-11-11-0072.html Monday, November 11, 2002 A smooth Ferry ride Roxy Music frontman puts on an elegantly glamourous show By JANE STEVENSON What would Bryan Ferry be on stage without a bevy of beautiful women? Frankly, pretty wonderful, but there's something so picture-perfect about the still-elegant 57-year-old crooner and sometime frontman for art-rockers Roxy Music being surrounded by a galaxy of glamourous gals. In this case, last night at the Hummingbird Centre, Ferry was joined by a total of five ladies: A harpist/percussionist and violinist/keyboardist -- part of an eight-piece band -- and three sartorially splendid backup singers. Their presence only added to the lovely lustre of the nicely paced show that clocked in at slightly over 90 minutes. It began with just Ferry on piano accompanied by his violin player, but by the time the eighth song rolled around -- the Roxy classic, The Thrill Of It All - -- the stage was teeming with a mighty ensemble of players including Roxy drummer Paul Thompson and local favourite Chris Spedding on guitar. Even some of the weaker covers from Ferry's latest album, Frantic, like Bob Dylan's Don't Think Twice, It's All Right and It's All Over Now, Baby Blue, worked much better in a live setting due to the singer's sheer charisma. And Ferry -- who appeared to have song lyrics on a music stand in front of him - -- certainly didn't scrimp in the covers department, including in his set such standards as Falling In Love Again, Will You Still Love Me Tomorrow? and Smoke Gets In Your Eyes, along with the John Lennon classic, Jealous Guy. Meanwhile, fans were obviously thrilled to hear so many Roxy songs including My Only Love and Slave To Love, along with older Ferry fare like Boys And Girls and Let's Stick Together. Of the new songs, Cruel -- co-written with Eurythmic Dave Stewart -- and A Fool For Love stood up well alongside Ferry's impressive songbook. The singer, who most recently performed here on the Roxy Music reunion tour at the Air Canada Centre last July, is obviously still warmed up from that experience . He even employed some of the same costumes -- a shiny silver suit that he wore for the second half of last night's concert -- and the fuschia-feathered, Las Vegas showgirl outfits, complete with headdress and train -- that two backup singers wore during the Roxy songs Love Is The Drug and The Strand. I'd seen both before, but certainly wasn't disappointed to see them again. BRIAN FERRY HUMMINGBIRD CENTRE 'Very ferry!' - -- JANE STEVENSON Sun Rating: 4 1/2 out of 5 ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 11:03:24 EST From: Holloholloway@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: re siren sucks I went on amazon.com reviews for siren and it got 15 five stars in fifteen reviews. I was shocked. Americans love Siren. Is it because it's a countrified album and is a continuation of the prairie rose style. We all know about Love is the Drug but the other single off that album "both ends burning" has more vitality on viva. Similarly, i thought end of the line lacked vitality and i prefer the version on concrete blonde's album.I too like the start of nightingale(bit like the beatles)and love ferry's self parody during the song.It's a good song to sing in the shower. peter ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 09:02:50 -0800 From: "mark shanahan" Subject: Re: [AVALON] rock and roll hall of fame et le vote >From: Colleen Matan >And I'm completely serious about Bobby Darrin--he was huge in the 60s and >was a significant influence on American rock and roll (and well worth >anyone's study if they don't know why). mack the knife; it's good that mr. darrin took this one. i couldn't really see sinatra pulling, i mean doing this one as well. probably just as well that he left 'ol man river' alone, though (unlike francis). this thread has been one of the most hilarious on avalon, but probably not in the way 'you all' think. i found it funny anyway. however, a bit disappointing that not a soul took the bowie bait. what the hell's the matter with you people anyway? bryan s. richards wrote: >Having read many discussions on this list I came to the conclusion that, >although diverse, there were many intelligent and tasteful people who aired >their views herein. How wrong could I have been???!!!! I cannot believe the >poor showing by The Bob (Medley) on the poll. I'm distraught!!! I'll never >be able to listen to the track in the same way again. Never mind it's nice >to be unique for a change. nevermind 'the bob' ... how in the heck did 'sfe' get to **#2**?? that's what i'd like to know. you call yourselves fans ... and you put 'strictly confidential' at _20_. *20*! my god, man - wake up! peaces/ms ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 09:04:50 -0800 From: William Sommers Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: avalon-digest V7 #373 At 05:53 AM 11/11/02 -0500, Chandla911@aol.com wrote: >> why pick a mediocre selling,geeky looking, British >> Buddy Holly lookalike who was kept off of American TV after >> changing the >> song he wanted to play. > > What is the story about changing a song? Please reply offlist if this > is known to many and just not to me... One recount can be found at http://www.ecostello.com/audience/990906.shtml. Links to the audio -- and probably video too, considering it's been rebroadcast a number of time -- are certainly out there. I don't know that it's ever been clarified as to whether the "no reason to do this song here" was in reference to the political content of the aborted one or to being (obviously ineffectually) prohibited from playing an anti-media one... or was perhaps simply ad lib. But do note Alan got it a little wrong, in that the ban was just SQL (well, maybe not "just", but I do recall many other subsequent appearances, even some on SQL's own network). And I think there's an enormous difference of impression between an artist having the first 3 albums of his 25-years-and-counting career go platinum/gold/gold (in the US) and one which did not reach such sales levels until their final one (and I believe that indeed only after they'd disbanded). -wfs ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 09:18:40 -0800 From: William Sommers Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: avalon-digest V7 #373 At 09:04 AM 11/11/02 -0800, William Sommers wrote: > But do note Alan got it a little wrong, in that the ban was > just SQL Er, SNL, of course. Stupid spell-checker! -wfs ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:01:51 -0500 From: "Arnold Schulberg" Subject: RE: [AVALON] rock and roll hall of fame This is just wishful thinking. I share in it but it is very unlikely to happen. Why do you think that they would perform if inducted? Arnie - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org]On Behalf Of Holloholloway@aol.com Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2002 11:33 PM To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: [AVALON] rock and roll hall of fame The police have been inducted into rock and roll hall of fame and will play three songs at the induction. Roxy were more influential than the police and it's only a matter of time before roxy will be inducted into hall of fame. maybe eno will get there before roxy. It would be interesting if roxy were inducted because they would most likely perform a set of songs.Roxy would be obligated to use its original members. It would be fantastic to see roxy perform with eno at such an induction. peter I ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:17:06 EST From: Holloholloway@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] rock and roll hall of fame If inducted Roxy Music would be asked to perform. The Police,Elvis Costello and the attractions and the clash have all been asked to perform at induction. Roxy would be asked to if they were inducted and as I guess as it's an honour to be inducted they would perform. Eno is integral part of roxy's legacy , I am sure he would perform with the band. I think that roxy will be one of the candidates for induction in the near future.. I hope the monkees get inducted. Mike Nesmith is a bloody good songwriter. peter ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:32:07 -0500 From: "Arnold Schulberg" Subject: RE: [AVALON] rock and roll hall of fame Agree as to Mike Nesmith but can you REALLY believe that the Monkees would be inducted? What is their unique contribution? Arnie - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org]On Behalf Of Holloholloway@aol.com Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 1:17 PM To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: Re: [AVALON] rock and roll hall of fame If inducted Roxy Music would be asked to perform. The Police,Elvis Costello and the attractions and the clash have all been asked to perform at induction. Roxy would be asked to if they were inducted and as I guess as it's an honour to be inducted they would perform. Eno is integral part of roxy's legacy , I am sure he would perform with the band. I think that roxy will be one of the candidates for induction in the near future.. I hope the monkees get inducted. Mike Nesmith is a bloody good songwriter. peter ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:28:07 +0200 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: Re: [AVALON] rock and roll hall of fame At 13.17 -0500 02-11-11, Holloholloway@aol.com wrote: >Eno is >integral part of roxy's legacy , I am sure he would perform with the band. Sorry, no way. Eno dislikes performing. He has been on a stage very few times after the 801 tour 1976. The passengers being the latest time to my knowledge. NP my wife watching the Swedish Pop stars murder The children of the revolution Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 13:36:02 -0500 (EST) From: Colleen Matan Subject: RE: [AVALON] rock and roll hall of fame On Mon, 11 Nov 2002, Arnold Schulberg wrote: > Agree as to Mike Nesmith but can you REALLY believe that the Monkees would > be inducted? What is their unique contribution? Because they were too busy singing to put anybody down, of course. Colleen ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 12:44:58 -0800 From: "mark shanahan" Subject: RE: [AVALON] rock and roll hall of fame <-----Original Message-----> >From: Colleen Matan > >On Mon, 11 Nov 2002, Arnold Schulberg wrote: > > Agree as to Mike Nesmith but can you REALLY believe that the Monkees would > be inducted? What is their unique contribution? > >Because they were too busy singing to put anybody down, of course. including industry people, evidently. no? oh, and they knew frank zappa - - and had jimi hendrix open for them. so, yeah - i think that should do it ... nice one, though ... :^) peaces/ms ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 21:06:21 -0000 From: "thom.wallace" Subject: Re: [AVALON] rock and roll hall of fame - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arnold Schulberg" To: Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 6:01 PM Subject: RE: [AVALON] rock and roll hall of fame > This is just wishful thinking. I share in it but it is very unlikely to > happen. > > Why do you think that they would perform if inducted? No doubt a tribute to Bobby Darrin to keep Coleen happy. Tom. You can also contact me at: TomWallace@vivaroxymusic.com ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 16:39:14 -0500 (EST) From: Colleen Matan Subject: Re: [AVALON] rock and roll hall of fame On Mon, 11 Nov 2002, thom.wallace wrote: > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Arnold Schulberg" > To: > Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 6:01 PM > Subject: RE: [AVALON] rock and roll hall of fame > > > > This is just wishful thinking. I share in it but it is very unlikely to > > happen. > > > > Why do you think that they would perform if inducted? > > No doubt a tribute to Bobby Darrin to keep Coleen happy. Wouldn't it be great! "somewhere...beyond the sea..." I was only a child but I cried the day I learned he had died in the middle of open-heart surgery. He was my first crush (and perhaps paved the way for my appreciation of Mr. Ferry). Colleen ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 00:09:15 -0000 From: "Mark Yates" Subject: Fw: [AVALON] Poll Results, Siren sucks??? - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Yates" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 12:08 AM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Poll Results, Siren sucks??? > Surely > Siren is the very spirit of Roxy, it embodies everything that Roxy were > about, innovative sounds, great production, great rock and ballads I > remember well the impact of "Both ends Burning" years a head of its time, > the intro alone is enough to make my hairs stand on end......... > ..personally I think the only track on Viva that is better than the studio > recording is "Out of the Blue" > Mark. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 3:52 AM > Subject: Re: [AVALON] Poll Results, Fave Roxy Tracks (pt.one) > > > > siren sucks as an album. It's marginally better than flesh and blood. On a > > long haul flight i had only stranded and siren to listen to. I couldn't > > listen to siren more than once. What do people like about this album, i'd > > like to know. > > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > > Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html > > US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 00:13:14 -0000 From: "Mark Yates" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Tick tock Yes but Richard, did you not find it terribly boring and tedious, Were you not praying for it to end,?(The film that is) Mark. - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 11:06 AM Subject: [AVALON] Tick tock > Went to see Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets yesterday. It was actually much longer than Bryan Ferry's recent concerts and, courtesy of John Williams, a lot more music. Is this a record? Nope, it's a movie. > > Best wishes > Richard Mills > > n/p Amplified Heart - Everything But The Girl (of course, it's a full-length album) > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html > US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 19:22:31 -0500 From: "M" Subject: [AVALON] Canadian shows Back from the Canadian shows. I had a hellish week last week at work and an exceptionally bad day at work on Friday. I had to rush out of the office, only to discover that my flight to Montreal was cancelled and I would have to take a later flight. I'm trying to waste an extra two hours and lo and behold, I see Bryan and Katie walking around. (Where was Duncan Watkins? He's the one who is always running into Bryan at airports.) They sit down by a tv. Katie heads to the restrooms and I approach Bryan. We talk for a few minutes and when Katie returns, take a couple of pics together. Bryan referred to Katie as the resident photographer. They were also scheduled to take the cancelled flight and then the later flight. I saw Colin on the plane. Afterwards, I ran into them again in the customs/immigration area. We get on the line together. Bryan is behind me. I was tearing apart my customs form and I hear him say, off you go! I look up and it was my turn. After my passport was stamped, I left to get my suitcase. The Montreal show was good but two songs shorter than the UK setlist. The crowd barely moved. We finally stood up and eventually, more people stood up. Phew! On to Toronto.... It was nice meeting more Avalonians - hello John, Brian and Rob! And of course, Helen! I wasn't impressed by the Toronto show. More of the same, nothing outstanding, and the crowd was even more lame than the Montreal one. No one stood up and if they did, they sat back down again after a few minutes. Helen, my friend Laurie and I tried to go up to the stage but the bouncer told us to go back to our seats. People finally stood up during the last song and went up to the stage. Outfits were documented. Now on to The Divine Comedy show on Wednesday, Bryan's NY show, and TDC AND Bryan in DC - Neil is playing in the afternoon and Bryan in the evening. What good timing - my two fave singers in one day! Altho' if they just played together that would make things easier for me. =P M ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ There was a young woman called M Who sat on Viggo Mortensen * He said, "Well M, my dear!" "Your waist brings such cheer" "I'll not look at another again!" ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ * A real-life event! ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 21:36:44 EST From: DEAGLERR@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] rock and roll hall of fame cjem@his.com writes: << Maybe in 25 years, after all of the obvious choices have been inducted, they will be. The way my taste usually meshes with POPULAR culture, the Harmonica Rascals or Alvin & the Chipmunks will be in the Rock & Roll Hall of fame before Roxy. The whole thang is about $$$$$$$$$$$$$$, people. The only reason it's IN Cleveland is cause they ponied-up the long green to put it there. Remember, Cleveland was so blighted that the lake caught on fire in the 70's, so they NEEDED a new image. A friend worked on the planning, & it was on-again off again for years because of cash problems. The R&RHOF is a toy of the music Biz. Add to this that the music business is full of weasels, (I apologize to the entire rodent population, but it's as close as I can get.) who gets in & who doesn't is about partisan politics, and $. I.E.: sales. I worked at Polygram a dozen years ago. We would assign the "designer" credit on the covers to secretaries, or whomever was handy, as you needed 5 credits to vote on the art awards for the Grammys. I.E.: 5 credits to a real designer, then 5 to a secretary, 5 to another secretary, etc. to make more voters. "call me Miss Ross" For a good party trick name the Jackson's, extra points if you can name em all including Papa Joe & the girls. 10 RE: Bobby Darin 'Oh the shark, has pearly teeth, Dear" Regards, R Deagle ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2002 21:37:49 EST From: DEAGLERR@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: re siren sucks In a message dated 11/11/02 12:04:09 PM, Holloholloway@aol.com writes: << Americans love Siren. Is it because it's a countrified album and is a continuation of the prairie rose style. >> What rubbish. R Deagle ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V7 #374 **************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest