From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V7 #367 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Wednesday, November 6 2002 Volume 07 : Number 367 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [AVALON] Re: avalon-digest V7 #366 [Chandla911@aol.com] [AVALON] Re: avalon-digest V7 #366 [Chandla911@aol.com] [AVALON] RE: Twin Peaks/Jimmy Scott (Was Haunted) ["Bryan S. Richards" ] Re: [AVALON] Roger Bunn [Colleen Matan ] Re: [AVALON] Roger Bunn ["David Firmin" ] Re: [AVALON] strictly confidential - the perfect song?? ["mark shanahan" ] [AVALON] More Poll Results, Your Top Ferry Albums [Stevesiren@aol.com] [AVALON] Roxy Family Tree ["Bryan S. Richards" ] Re: [AVALON] More Poll Results, Your Top Ferry Albums ["Mark Yates" ] RE: [AVALON] Stockholm tv-show tonight setlist. Video-tree ["Tracy Elliot] [AVALON] 2000 hits [Edwin van der Ende ] RE: [AVALON] Stockholm tv-show tonight setlist. Video-tree [Daniel Atterb] [AVALON] artwork ["Jimbo" ] [AVALON] BF concert photos ["Tracy Connell" ] Re: [AVALON] Why in the World are you so Cool ? ["Mark Yates" ] To leave the list, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon-digest ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 04:30:48 EST From: Chandla911@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Re: avalon-digest V7 #366 In a message dated 2002-11-06 09:06:19 GMT Standard Time, owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org writes: > Ferry say last year > that Psalm was one of the first songs (if not the first) that he wrote? Yes, but on the Jools Holland show this year on Radio 2, he also says that he has chosen Windswept as an album track to be played because he is looking forward to playing it on the 2002 Frantic tour. Just how many times has that particular anticipation been rewarded? Best wishes Richard Mills n/p David Bowie - Kingston Polytechnic 1972 ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 04:33:38 EST From: Chandla911@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Re: avalon-digest V7 #366 In a message dated 2002-11-06 09:06:19 GMT Standard Time, owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org writes: > However, Bowie starred in the film, and his > concerts are longer, of course. I've decided. The concerts are probably the same length as BF's but, like multiple orgasms (something, rather infuriatingly, I've never had) they just seem to go on forever...and they are to die for. Best wishes Richard Mills n/p David Bowie - Royal Festival Hall 1972 (still going strong some 30 years later) ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 09:47:07 -0000 From: "Bryan S. Richards" Subject: [AVALON] RE: Twin Peaks/Jimmy Scott (Was Haunted) Wonderful series and some great music. On a similar theme (musically) has anyone here ever listened to This Mortal Coil and the album It'll End In Tears? Bryan ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 06:09:38 EST From: Alanandalyj@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Re: worst track personally i voted for Angel Eyes disco but having thought The Main Thing is one that gets me reaching for fast forward. You are my sunshine is well sung and reminds me of my childhood and Trash kind of fitted that punk/new romantic era. Alan ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 08:09:25 -0500 From: KB Porter Subject: Re: [AVALON] Announcing The WORST Roxy/ Ferry Track Ever... "So If they do ever do an album called "The Worst Of Roxy?Ferry" theres something there to go on." Golly gee whiz - I reckon this album would sell as well as any Roxy/Ferry release of the past twenty-five years! KBP ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 08:16:21 -0500 From: KB Porter Subject: Re: [AVALON] Why in the World are you so Cool ? I apologize for this tardy response: "Maybe that is another difference between us "I do listen" What did you say, Mark? - ------ "so why do you suddenly turn against San simeon?" I haven't turned against San Simeon, I wrote that it was pleasant! - ------ "On nearly every Ferry album there is at least one song about loneliness or isolation..... so why on earth do you refer to him as a lazy sod?" I believe every Ferry album is steeped with loneliness or isolation. That he is a 'lazy sod' are not my words - I do agree with the sentiment with in its given context, however. Cor assigned this term to Mr. Ferry with regard to the fact that "Frantic" is a compilation of songs that are either covers done much like the originals and pieces of Ferry music that is years old. Thom has confirmed the newest of the 'new' on "Frantic", 'I Thought' and 'Goddess of Love', date back to 2000. What has Ferry been doing these past two years - creatively writing? Yes, he has been touring, but that is outside the scope of consideration given the discussion. It is all about context, Mark. And in the context given, it does appear that BF hasn't been doing anything new for sometime now. You offer weak proof: "... its just another in a long line of songs with the same theme.......this proves that Ferry is not lazy." So in a similar vein, I offer this, your own words, as proof that Mr. Ferry is, as Cor wrote, 'a lazy sod': "with reference to wanting to "know what his artistic stature is now" you've just got it "Frantic". I noticed that I made a typo in the post to which you responded - I don't know if it will help you perceive that I had written a complementary post with respect to your writing "How different we are". I meant to write "Good thing, too ..." but what I sent was "Good think, too ...". - - 'Good thing' because it takes all sorts of people to make the world go round! I am sorry that you seem to have taken offense by what was sent. Best wishes. KBP PS - FIS: Amanda Lear IS and ALWAYS HAS BEEN FEMALE!!! ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 13:26:16 -0000 From: "Fiske, Jocelyn" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Why in the World are you so Cool ? PS - FIS: Amanda Lear IS and ALWAYS HAS BEEN FEMALE!!! Not true. Our Adam (as we called him) was always such a pretty little hermaphrodite before he ran off and got in with that "arty" crew. Amanda's Mum ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 08:33:36 EST From: KWil632057@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Why in the World are you so Cool ? In a message dated 06/11/02 13:31:20 GMT Standard Time, Jocelyn.Fiske@greyeu.com writes: > PS - FIS: Amanda Lear IS and ALWAYS HAS BEEN FEMALE!!! > > Not true. Our Adam (as we called him) was always such a pretty little > hermaphrodite before he ran off and got in with that "arty" crew. > > Amanda's Mum Euhh!! I had sex with her/him! Bryan ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 13:34:35 -0000 From: "Fiske, Jocelyn" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Why in the World are you so Cool ? >Euhh!! I had sex with her/him! Bryan So did I Amanda's Mum ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 13:56:03 -0000 From: "terrypaulrigz8c" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Why in the World are you so Cool ? - ----- Original Message ----- From: Fiske, Jocelyn To: Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 1:34 PM Subject: RE: [AVALON] Why in the World are you so Cool ? > >Euhh!! I had sex with her/him! > Bryan > > > So did I > Amanda's Mum Oh Mother Look What They've Done To Me Amanda's 12 inch. ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 14:25:58 -0000 From: "S.J.Batie" Subject: [AVALON] why in the world are you so toon took in the newcastle vs middlesborough football game on monday evening en-route from edinburgh to milton keynes. the toon announcer/dj (??) played a lonnie donegan track at the end of the game by way of tribute; nice touch. steve ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 17:00:08 +0100 From: "danyellow" Subject: [AVALON] AAAAA Amsterdam for southern Europe HI kiddies!! Still enjoying ur polls ??? I got the Amsterdam copy and I'm gonna burn someone... Who wants to be part of the tree ???? the bogus dan ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 08:11:07 -0800 From: "David Firmin" Subject: [AVALON] Roger Bunn I received an interesting note from ex-Roxy guitarist Roger Bunn. Please don't read if you don't like any negative Roxy talk. Typos left intact. - ----- Original Message ----- From: Roger Bunn To: Eddie Riff Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 11:41 PM As the first ever lead guitarist of Roxy I would like to thank you for your kind invitation. I will take a look at the website later in the day - perhaps we can work out a way I can post and receive info indirectly? So that I do not have to formalise the arrangement? You also doooo realise that I am an activist within the industry these days. A director of P@mra that is supposed to get #60,000,000 in recording royalties to those who deserve it the most. Your Roxy people may have to have a lesson or two about the econ-system and various criminally inclined parts of the music industry in the UK - if they want to understand that which I develop. You also have to realise that my experience with Roxy was also part of why Im n activist these days - And while such as Eno gains a reputation for doing "good deeds" - I'm still waiting for som sort of econ-reward from a supposed inntelligent Ferry and the gang - I also knew Alan Spenner and Neil Hubbard rather well from Cocker days - these guys worked for Ferry - as does Chris Spedding these days - in the 80s waaay after I left. If you can handle the whole Roger Bunn shebang instead of just some dodgy fanlike communications then maybe we can work together. I also have to tell you that - One track on the fist Roxy album contains an arrangeent that I developed with the band - for this I have never een paid a cent and some statute of limitation suggests that unlss Ferry dvelops an industril conscience - I will nevr get any econ-thanks. As with Bowie who sang my "Life is a Circus" for two years - One rarely gets what one deserves from neither the industry nor from its featured artists. The opinions expressed in this missive, exclusively reflect the views of the Music Industry Human Rights Association and none other.. http://www.mihra.org *** ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 11:14:41 -0500 (EST) From: Colleen Matan Subject: Re: [AVALON] Roger Bunn On Wed, 6 Nov 2002, David Firmin wrote: > I received an interesting note from ex-Roxy guitarist Roger Bunn. Please > don't read if you don't like any negative Roxy talk. Typos left intact. Just a reminder, please, that private emails should not be posted to Avalon without the explicit permission of the sender. Thanks, Colleen ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 08:17:42 -0800 From: "David Firmin" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Roger Bunn I think this important for everyone to read. I also said "Don't read" if you don't want to. It's up to you. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colleen Matan" To: "David Firmin" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 8:14 AM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Roger Bunn > On Wed, 6 Nov 2002, David Firmin wrote: > > > I received an interesting note from ex-Roxy guitarist Roger Bunn. Please > > don't read if you don't like any negative Roxy talk. Typos left intact. > > Just a reminder, please, that private emails should not be posted to > Avalon without the explicit permission of the sender. > > Thanks, > Colleen > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html > US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 10:48:29 -0800 From: "mark shanahan" Subject: Re: [AVALON] strictly confidential - the perfect song?? _______________________________________________________________ Get the FREE email that has everyone talking at http://www.mail2world.com <-----Original Message-----> >From: Christian H. Soetemann >[cut]I love it when Ferry covers the topic of death and >decay. And Strictly Confidential is one of his best songs ever. terry 'O' wrote: [cut] a despair or depression deeper than a lost love affair or just a time in >life when things are not going to plan. The lyric to this song might just >be one of the only real insights to Ferrys psyche, before he hit the lost >love vein of Siren onwards [cut] >So yes a wonderful song, not exactly easy listening and perhaps lost >amongst several other immaculate songs & performances on FYP. obviously, i agree on 'one of his best songs ever'. but - is it a topic of "death and decay"? i wonder if it isn't ferry having a conversation with himself (or is it that literal?). and who is/are the 'we' of the song? 'truth is the seed we tried to sow'. and what is the guilt/wound that's hard to heal? is it a very dark soliloquy where he's questioning himself? *is it* autobiographical? 'over the hills and down the valleys' ... varying depressive moods? or is he giving descriptive color to anguish within, giving it life, letting it take flight to release it? or possibly confrontation or just recognition of the shadow inside? you see, for me this song raises more questions than it answers. and, of course, always open to interpretation (perhaps that's the beauty of this piece in particular). i do find, part of the time, that too much analyzation of roxy/ferry's stuff takes away some of the mystery (which was one of the most attractive aspects of them/him in the first place). sometimes knowing too much _is_ too much ... lastly, i'd just say that i'm not convinced it's about suicide. very dark, but not a suicidal piece. so ... i.e. when han says the last verse takes away from any continuity, i would just say it also says 'there is no light here, is there no key?' it's not as if the protagonist has walked off into the sunset in a disney picture (actually, that's pretty depressing, isn't it??). although not easy listening, if i had kids, this would be hands-down the #1 lullaby nightly ... peaces/ms ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 14:49:12 EST From: Stevesiren@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] More Poll Results, Your Top Ferry Albums I've had several emails asking if I can release the Ferry/Roxy results before the Eno/Mackay/ Manzanera ones. As it is your votes, I bow to your wishes. So below are the results for your fave ferry albums. Remember that voting took the form of proportional representation, 5 points for your no. 1 album, down to 1point for your no.5 album, so here goes. 1.Frantic 112 points 2.Bride Stripped Bare 103 3.In Your Mind 94 4.Boys & Girls 81 5.Bete Noir 74 6.These Foolish Things 72 7.Mamouna 68 8.Lets Stick Together 42 9.As Time Goes By 26 10.Another Time/Another Place 18 11.Taxi 16 12. Slave To Love (Best Of) 5 ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:53:31 -0000 From: "Bryan S. Richards" Subject: [AVALON] Roxy Family Tree Having read with interest about Roger Bunn has anyone ever created a complete list of all people who have appeared on Roxy/Ferry albums or been part of the stage shows? Bryan ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 19:57:46 -0000 From: "Bryan S. Richards" Subject: Re: [AVALON] More Poll Results, Your Top Ferry Albums Hi Steve, No surprises there, especially with Frantic being so fresh in the mind. I thought Taxi might have put up a better fight as IMO some of his best cover work is on there. But there you go. Regards Bryan ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 14:05:17 -0600 From: "Paula Brown" Subject: Re: [AVALON] More Poll Results, Your Top Ferry Albums Well, that ought to make Bryan happy! Now maybe he'll add HIROSHIMA back onto the set list, realizing that we are seriously wanting to hear more of Frantic! Steve, thanks for all this. Paula > 1.Frantic 112 points ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 14:06:18 -0600 From: "Paula Brown" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Roxy Family Tree John O'Brien has a lot of that information compiled very nicely at www.vivaroxymusic.com, and I'm sure he'd love for you to visit his site! Paula - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bryan S. Richards" To: "Avalon" Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 1:53 PM Subject: [AVALON] Roxy Family Tree > Having read with interest about Roger Bunn has anyone ever created a complete > list of all people who have appeared on Roxy/Ferry albums or been part of the > stage shows? > > Bryan > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html > US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:03:49 -0000 From: "Mark Yates" Subject: Re: [AVALON] More Poll Results, Your Top Ferry Albums Great to see FRANTIC on top. Mark. - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 7:49 PM Subject: [AVALON] More Poll Results, Your Top Ferry Albums > I've had several emails asking if I can release the Ferry/Roxy results before > the Eno/Mackay/ Manzanera ones. As it is your votes, I bow to your wishes. > So below are the results for your fave ferry albums. Remember that voting > took the form of proportional representation, 5 points for your no. 1 album, > down to 1point for your no.5 album, so here goes. > > 1.Frantic 112 points > 2.Bride Stripped Bare 103 > 3.In Your Mind 94 > 4.Boys & Girls 81 > 5.Bete Noir 74 > 6.These Foolish Things 72 > 7.Mamouna 68 > 8.Lets Stick Together 42 > 9.As Time Goes By 26 > 10.Another Time/Another Place 18 > 11.Taxi 16 > 12. Slave To Love (Best Of) 5 > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html > US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:23:39 +0200 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: Re: [AVALON] Roxy Family Tree At 19.53 +0000 02-11-06, Bryan S. Richards wrote: >Having read with interest about Roger Bunn has anyone ever created a complete >list of all people who have appeared on Roxy/Ferry albums or been part of the >stage shows? Peter Frame did not do it, did he? I did one back in 1977-78, but I don't knowwhat became of it. NP Eric Gadd, Permission to love (and all of you that like soul ought to check this Swede out, he sings like Curtis Mayfield and writes songs with Leon Ware) Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 20:38:45 -0000 From: "Tracy Elliott" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Stockholm tv-show tonight setlist. Video-tree Thanks to the kindness of Stefan (thanks Stefan) I have received a copy of this. If anyone would like a copy please email me off list (fyi: I think this is the same t.v. show as Bryan has recently offered up). Regards. T *************** >Quite funny to watch...featuring the unknown Pauline Thompson, longhaired >blonde drummer sister of TGPT? >And Bryan Ferry...just back from military excersize. With no time to change >into civilian clothes. >Thrill of it all >("Great to be back in Stockholm..ouh") I wonder what he said on their >maiden tour :-) >Mother of pearl >Nightingale >Out of the blue >Streetlife >Diamondhead (instrumental) >Wild weekend (instrumental) >The incrowd >Virgina Plain >A hard rain's gonna fall - --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.394 / Virus Database: 224 - Release Date: 03/10/2002 ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 22:14:35 +0100 From: Edwin van der Ende Subject: [AVALON] 2000 hits Hi everybody, Today Re-make's website registered the 2000th hit. Totaal aantal pageviews tot nu toe 2000 (total page views till now 2000) 10. 6 november 22:05 America Online (10. November 6th 22.05h America Online) We would like to thank all of you who came to visit the site and hope to see you back again..... Greetz, Edwin Webmaster/Photographer, Re-make/Re-model www.remakeremodel.com ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 22:50:13 +0200 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: RE: [AVALON] Stockholm tv-show tonight setlist. Video-tree At 20.38 +0000 02-11-06, Tracy Elliott wrote: >(fyi: I >think this is the same t.v. show as Bryan has recently offered up). It is indeed. NP Eric Gadd, You gotta love someone Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 23:14:49 +0100 From: "Jimbo" Subject: [AVALON] artwork Hello, Is there someone who knows where i can find the artwork for the Ferry cd - The Price Of Love - New York Aug '77/Japan Sept '77 ? Thanx, jim. ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 22:25:56 +0000 From: "Tracy Connell" Subject: [AVALON] BF concert photos Hiya, For anyone who's interested I have uploaded some photographs of Bryan Ferry at his Glasgow, Edinburgh and 2 Newcastle shows which I took. They are at http://www.roxyferry.ic24.net They may take a couple of seconds to download, but let me know if you have any problems. Tracy visit my websites: http://www.jamesmason.ic24.net http://www.roxyferry.ic24.net _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 22:59:28 -0000 From: "Mark Yates" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Why in the World are you so Cool ? How can you call any artist LAZY ? Ferry is a songwriter/musician, as such he can only write when inspiration strikes....It's not like a factory worker turning out plastic mouldings or a Call centre operative try to achieve a set target. So what if some of Frantic dates back to 2000.....its been worth the wait.Quality not quantity surely that's what matters. Hydan wrote over 100 symphonies whereas Beethoven finished only 9 does this make Beethoven lazy??? of course not "Its in the quality" considering in the last two years Ferry has undertaken two gruelling world tours.......produced what I consider to be his finest solo work.....not to mention the countless radio and TV interviews, all this on top of the emotional strain that he must be suffering........only increases my admiration for the man...........Give him a break. There is no harm in constructive criticism but to call him lazy is a mindless and a step to far. Mark. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "KB Porter" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 1:16 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Why in the World are you so Cool ? > I apologize for this tardy response: > > > "Maybe that is another difference between us "I do listen" > > What did you say, Mark? > ------ > > "so why do you suddenly turn against San simeon?" > > I haven't turned against San Simeon, I wrote that it was > pleasant! > ------ > > "On nearly every Ferry album there is at least one song > about loneliness or isolation..... so why on earth do you > refer to him as a lazy sod?" > > I believe every Ferry album is steeped with loneliness or > isolation. That he is a 'lazy sod' are not my words - I do > agree with the sentiment with in its given context, > however. Cor assigned this term to Mr. Ferry with regard to > the fact that "Frantic" is a compilation of songs that are > either covers done much like the originals and pieces of > Ferry music that is years old. Thom has confirmed the > newest of the 'new' on "Frantic", 'I Thought' and 'Goddess > of Love', date back to 2000. What has Ferry been doing > these past two years - creatively writing? Yes, he has been > touring, but that is outside the scope of consideration > given the discussion. It is all about context, Mark. And > in the context given, it does appear that BF hasn't been > doing anything new for sometime now. > > You offer weak proof: "... its just another in a long line > of songs with the same theme.......this proves that Ferry is > not lazy." > > So in a similar vein, I offer this, your own words, as proof > that Mr. Ferry is, as Cor wrote, 'a lazy sod': "with > reference to wanting to "know what his artistic stature is > now" you've just got it "Frantic". > > I noticed that I made a typo in the post to which you > responded - I don't know if it will help you perceive that I > had written a complementary post with respect to your > writing "How different we are". I meant to write "Good > thing, too ..." but what I sent was "Good think, too ...". > - 'Good thing' because it takes all sorts of people to make > the world go round! I am sorry that you seem to have taken > offense by what was sent. > > Best wishes. KBP > > > PS - FIS: Amanda Lear IS and ALWAYS HAS BEEN FEMALE!!! > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html > US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 21:58:24 -0000 From: "terrypaulrigz8c" Subject: Re: [AVALON] More Poll Results, Your Top Ferry Albums 4: B&Gs 5: B N Did rather better than I would have predicted, TFT below these two, I guess I must have been there 1st time around. Terry "O" - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 7:49 PM Subject: [AVALON] More Poll Results, Your Top Ferry Albums > I've had several emails asking if I can release the Ferry/Roxy results before > the Eno/Mackay/ Manzanera ones. As it is your votes, I bow to your wishes. > So below are the results for your fave ferry albums. Remember that voting > took the form of proportional representation, 5 points for your no. 1 album, > down to 1point for your no.5 album, so here goes. > > 1.Frantic 112 points > 2.Bride Stripped Bare 103 > 3.In Your Mind 94 > 4.Boys & Girls 81 > 5.Bete Noir 74 > 6.These Foolish Things 72 > 7.Mamouna 68 > 8.Lets Stick Together 42 > 9.As Time Goes By 26 > 10.Another Time/Another Place 18 > 11.Taxi 16 > 12. Slave To Love (Best Of) 5 > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html > US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Nov 2002 15:24:41 -0800 From: "David Firmin" Subject: [AVALON] Roger Bunn controversy Okay, I got his permission ;-) - ----- Original Message ----- From: Roger Bunn To: David Firmin Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 3:17 PM Subject: Message to David Firman from Roger Bunn Dear David, Thank you for inviting me to add to your Roxy Music website. As the first guitarist with Roxy Music, back in the early days when Bryan Ferry was a fresh faced ex art student - who with Eno had attended a gig where I had played with Pete Brown and Piblokto - the band Pete had formed with the monies he had collected from being the lyricist for Jack, Ginger and Eric of the Cream days, and after Chris Spedding had ousted him from the Battered Ornaments just before the Park concert with the Stones. Now it seems strange that the self same Spedding is working as a Ferry mercenary, covering the job I did in the beginning. And I am back writing quality songs with Pete as Chris did in the beginning of his trade as a featured artist. I am basically a jazz musician- I love quality and unusual chords and scales, so having left Piblokto - with Laurie Allen, Jim Mullen, Rob Tait, Dave Thompson, all very credible musicians more involved in jazz than wishing themselves in a sort of free-form pop band on its way to glam. Bryan and I both knew that I was only there because I had nothing better to do at the time, and because he was keen on having a "stop gap" lead guitar in the band. Anyway, I wouldn't have shaved off most non-glam moustache for all the money in the world. We all - the whole band - of whom I am not in touch, had some good times in the early days. On a couple of occasions the music sounded almost convincing. I especially enjoyed the drummer and Andy's work. An enthusiastic Bryan used to pick me up at the flat I shared with my lady in Earls Court and then we would head for Eno's house to record in his little studio. That is where all the demo tracks for the Roxy first album were recorded. I am on every one of the tracks and contributed the arrangement mentioned herein Not that I can remember too much about those musical times, it took me 20 years and Mitchell to remind me that I once jammed with Jimi. A while ago at Metropolis Studios I met Phil, who after Dave O'List had decided he didn't want to know, had succeeded me as guitarist and recorded the first album on which I have a feeling that on one track - someone decided to use (as in ripped off?) one of my arrangements. But these things happen all the time in the music industry especially back then in 71 - Almost the same thing happened between Bowie and I, as he used my "Life is a Circus" for two years. Thank goodness David never called it his own and recorded it huh? But such incidences are one of the reasons that I am a director of the Music Industry Human Rights Association http://www.mihra.org While one can enjoy the superficial aspects of our heroes, t'is best they say and respectful to musicians, never to forget the whole featured artist / creative musician equationary picture. So, if there is anyone out there who just wants to talk about how Bryan manages to flick back his hair in such an elegent fashion, and not talk to me about what's more or less as important. Then I'm not your man, I have too much of a memory for you. However, when it comes to playing the guitar, the basses, and ballard singing in tune, and a few other things - then no prob. There is a lot of stuff on the 'net about Roxy and I - and it would be kind of you to establish a link to Mihra from your sites - or from any of the sites connected to which I write. Mihra is primarily an international human rights organisation based in London that runs a lobby group on the Hill and in the Commons when it can find itself effective. In fact it was us who threw the murderous Burmese military junta, (the world's 2nd largest dealer in heroin and meth.) out of the last FIFA World Cup and got the US a full compliment of nations at Atlanta 96 - Something for which the US diplo service could be a little more grateful - than of late? My good memory is probably also the reason I was the first activist to be banned fro S Africa by its minority goverment's FW De Klerk, after the UN had lifted sports sanctions. I used to run sports campaigns for the Anti Apartheid Movement. Almost finally - it takes intelligence to survive in the music industry. But - sometimes it takes even more intelligence to, if not get out of music for music's sake, to stay on the fringe with the awesome but salty power of being able to look in and see people for what they are. And finally, why don't you boys and girls try and set up a Roger Bunn Mihra gig in your local? That way my friends and I can come "lecture" and boogie ;-) Thanks from us all. Roger Bunn 1st lead guitar and arranger Roxy Music Director P@mra The opinions expressed in this missive, exclusively reflect the views of the Music Industry Human Rights Association and none other.. http://www.mihra.org ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V7 #367 **************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest