From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V7 #358 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Wednesday, October 30 2002 Volume 07 : Number 358 Today's Subjects: ----------------- RE: [AVALON] Tick Tock ["Cassidy, Chris J (CPS)" ] Re: [AVALON] More than this? [JaniceJanroxy@aol.com] [AVALON] Re: avalon-digest V7 #357 [Avalon887@aol.com] [AVALON] Lucy Kaplansky [OBrienFerry@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] Tick Tock [Aleks Kocan ] RE: [AVALON] Tick Tock ["Fiske, Jocelyn" ] RE: [AVALON] More than this? ["Martin Stockman" ] [AVALON] What about York [=?iso-8859-1?q?jeanne=20louise?= ] Re: [AVALON] More than this? ["Mark Yates" ] Re: [AVALON] More than this? [Mats Andersson ] [AVALON] Re: More then This?? ["cor broersen" ] Re: [AVALON] RAH (long post) ["Andrew Shearer" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Tick Tock A friend went to see KD in Stafford recently. The show started at 7.30pm and they were still then at 1.00pm! KD said that no-one could leave as he'd had the doors of the threatre locked and was taking the mickey out of the audience by saying that there was a mob of irate taxi drivers waiting for them outside and that babysitters were phoning the theatre to see what time the show would end! Regards Chris > -----Original Message----- > From: KWil632057@aol.com [SMTP:KWil632057@aol.com] > Sent: 28 October 2002 11:00 > To: avalon@smoe.org > Subject: Re: [AVALON] Tick Tock > > In a message dated 28/10/02 10:49:42 GMT Standard Time, Chandla911@aol.com > > writes: > > > > > Even the people > > > questioning the length must be happy now, at around 105 > > > minutes!! > > and Ken Dodd does three hours plus on his tour!! > > J > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > _ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html > US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:06:25 +0000 (GMT) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Jeanne=20Louise?= Subject: [AVALON] Remake/Remodel Their site is getting better and better,fantastic pictures of the band and their fans?JL. Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 13:15:04 -0000 From: "thom.wallace" Subject: Re: [AVALON] More than this? - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Billmann" To: "avalon" Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 5:39 AM Subject: Re: [AVALON] More than this? > For those of you who have heard it on the reunion tour, do you think it was worth it and would like to hear it again? It was passable live and no more. Would I like to hear it again live? Not really, it's not much of a song at its best. Tom. You can also contact me at: TomWallace@vivaroxymusic.com ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:30:43 EST From: JaniceJanroxy@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] More than this? I heard 'More Than This' on the reunion tour and thought it sounded good. Maybe Bryan thinks he can't sing it! Anyway I'm sure on the TOTP special on UK TV before the tour he said this was one of his favourite songs but I could be wrong! Janice ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:52:01 EST From: Avalon887@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Re: avalon-digest V7 #357 In a message dated 10/29/02 4:06:33 AM Eastern Standard Time, owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org writes: > this from lucy kaplansky (sings back up on 'frantic'): > > what song does she do on "Frantic"? eileen in Kew Gardens ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 09:57:22 EST From: OBrienFerry@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Lucy Kaplansky In a message dated 29/10/02 14:53:24 GMT Standard Time, Avalon887@aol.com writes: > > this from lucy kaplansky (sings back up on 'frantic'): > > > > > > what song does she do on "Frantic"? > > eileen in Kew Gardens > Details on Lucy can be found here:- http://www.vivaroxymusic.com:8080/2250 J.O'B. ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 06:58:53 -0800 (PST) From: Aleks Kocan Subject: Re: [AVALON] Tick Tock - --- Chandla911@aol.com wrote: > Sorry to *keep* harping on about the lethargy in the > current tour camp, but 105 minutes is fine for > artists who have but a couple of albums to draw > upon. To go out and > charge the prices BF is charging and feel that folks > won't feel short-changed by 105 minutes, that it > somehow represents a show of effort, is miserly in > the extreme. 105 minutes may seem a bit short. Having said that the actual gig did seem longer than that, I really don't know why. I'm happy to advocate a longer set-list but I thought it all fitted together pretty well on this tour. I think that the Ferry tickets were priced correctly at #28. Morrisey is charging about the same amount, I've seen him before and he played for just over an hour. Ticket prices for Prince at the Manchester Apollo were something like #60, twice as much as Ferry. I would like to see Bryan play a longer set, but I'm more than happy with what I got this time round. A friend of mine went to see Chuck Berry many years ago. He was on stage for 30 minutes with a 5 minute encore, now that's what I call "short changed". When we went to see U2 the tickets were #35, which is only #7 more than Ferry. Bigger stage show, longer set etc.. having said that they are a different type of band as is Broooooooce etc.. No real complaints this time round, the show works well. Aleks HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/ ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:17:24 -0000 From: "Fiske, Jocelyn" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Tick Tock >A friend of mine went to see Chuck Berry many years ago. He was on stage for 30 minutes with a 5 minute encore, now that's what I call "short changed". I went to see Marvin Gaye once and he played five minutes before disappearing off stage in a coke haze never to return. I also went to see Grace Jones twice and she didn't turn up for either gig. So I guess I'm just thankful if the artist turns up at all. Jocelyn ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 16:26:49 -0000 From: "Martin Stockman" Subject: RE: [AVALON] More than this? More Than This is rightly recognised by the band and the cognoscenti alike as one of the finest songs in the canon. Lovingly crafted , beautifully played, it stands at the very centre of Ferry's lush soundscape that flows through the champagne and novacaine middle period. Not just Bryan but Andy too, both are on record extolling the charms of this nugget. Its quite crazy to dismiss More Than This as not much of a song. The final minute captures the extraordinary interplay between Hubbard and Manzo, an outro evoking the Arthurian legend of the album's title and the mists on the Galway lake on the album's sleeve. I was lucky enough to hear this song in Dublin last year, the vocals flawed but still haunting. You were left with the sense of how much Bryan wanted it to work, and how painful was the realisation that the notes were beyond him. And, apart from that studio performance at Compass Point, Nassau, in 1983, one wonders if the voice was ever up to it. I know, like me, some dear Avalonions have chanced upon the unreleased rehearsal recording when the Maestro prefaces the run-through with .."And now for the problem number.." little knowing that the problem would still be a subject of discussion nearly twenty years later. - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org]On Behalf Of thom.wallace Sent: 29 October 2002 13:15 To: Avalon; Mike Billmann Subject: Re: [AVALON] More than this? - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Billmann" To: "avalon" Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 5:39 AM Subject: Re: [AVALON] More than this? > For those of you who have heard it on the reunion tour, do you think it was worth it and would like to hear it again? It was passable live and no more. Would I like to hear it again live? Not really, it's not much of a song at its best. Tom. You can also contact me at: TomWallace@vivaroxymusic.com ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 18:02:16 -0000 From: "Fiske, Jocelyn" Subject: [AVALON] The Scottish and Newcastle Brewery Tour - Scottish leg (longish) Electing to re-enact The Talented Mr Ripley in the Italian Riviera rather than pick up the first week of the British tour, I finally found myself winging to Scotlandshire, bound for the first of 5 concerts in 7 days and had opened a mental book on which concerts would outshine the others. I had Glasgow and Newcastle 2 as even favourites, Newcastle 1 as 3-1 on, with Edinburgh coming up on the outside as a 10-1 maybe and York as a fell in the paddock. How strange fate can be. Glasgow began very promisingly with a bottle of bubbly left in our room by the ever generous Danny for my recently betrothed pal Lindsay. Apparently the hotel believing this was a very special occasion (well a BF concert counts I guess) bumped us up to penthouse class with separate visiting salon and panoramic views over the Clyde and the Armadillo. As we assumed this was the Honeymoon Suite we renamed it Lesers Lounge. God knows what they made of you Alan mate - do you resemble a Scottish football manager by any chance? Perhaps it was the shoes, hey if they work for Reecey, they must have something about them! A couple of coats of varnish and lip gloss later and we're off up town sampling the delights of the fabulous Art Deco Regano, known for it's champagne cocktails and its Queen Mary replica bar (thank you Ms O'Donnelll for the history lesson). Then a whizzz back down to the Armadillo for the most subdued Glasgow audience I've encountered for some time. Don't get me wrong, the band played brilliantly and each of the "acoustic" numbers was met with recognition and applause but this audience was practically...well...polite. Thankfully TTOIA got everyone up and we giggled our way through the set amusing ourselves with our new "down in Limbo" disappearing act. Much fun all round but with lights up we all agreed there had been something missing. That old intangible again. I sympathised with the local contingency that their home gig didn't quite live up to expectations while secretly sniggering that, yes, now they must accept that Geordies really are the best audiences, come on Newcastle! Sad disillusioned lass that I am. No matter. A bizarre detour on the walkway back through from the Armadillo to the hotel where I found myself in a banqueting suite of fancy dressed revellers and was dragged onto the dance floor and practically forced to join in the mock line dancing to Shania Twaine's Feel Like A Woman. I escaped from this David Lynchian horror to find the usual suspects in the bar. Blimey, anyone would need a drink after that experience! A while later and the mobile goes, with an invite to the band's hotel for a drink. The conversation turns to the much anticipated Newcastle shows where my enquiry of any surprises was met with a wait and see. Aha, what were we to expect south of the border? Meanwhile we all lived up to our rock'n'roll life styles by ordering tomato juice, Irish coffees and passing round the indigestion tablets (Rennies the new E?). By 5 o'clock we decided to retire to Lesers Lounge. New day, new head - please. We find we've missed the early birdies Ivor, Reecey , Messers Frasers et al. Off to the Burgh. Having been dropped off at the wrong station, we wander aimlessly around the granite magnitude of Glassgee with craniums of cotton wools and less than cast iron constitutions. The Angel of the North (Trez to you lot) appears with promise of hot chocolate, coffee and bag carrying. We can but obey. After a welcome catch up we are ensconced on Scottish Cattle Class East coast bound. Another turn up for the books. Our internet booked hotel turns out to be fabulous and on a new introductory offer of #65 for a twin we can't believe our luck. Barcelona chairs in the foyer are always a good sign. Before we know it we're guzzling hang over pasta and heading up to the venue. I spot my ticket queuing pals immediately (what good timing was that when these tickets went on sale the morning of the Princes Street concert?) and a myriad of "listers". Also fab to see those old time hard corers Monica and Iris. No-one really expected anything but there was a niggling feeling in the water we might be surprised tonight, but just to be on the safe side we all made a pact to leg it at the beginning of TTOIA. Lights down and Bryan saunters on stage. The first note of The Only Face and there's a mad stage rush to the front. Every word of every song sung at lung bursting full pelt, this put the Auld Firm and Tyneside derbies to shame. Bryan could hardly hear himself sing, and I swear every person in the house ohhhhh ohhhhed their way through the first up tempo number. And so it went on, loud, proud and glad to be there. TGPT got an encore on introduction, being named both as TGPT and just plain old PT. We sang all the words to Can I Get A Witness through Shame Shame Shame and by LST the roof was off and blowing down Nicholson Street. If ever an audience deserved a special surprise, it was this one, but alas the band felt under rehearsed at this stage and no Woolly Bully for Edinburgh. Everyone was astounded. Edinburgh beat Glasgow?? No, no, no, nooooooooo!!!! Back to Barcelona Barracks where I ask our barman if he'd put on The Amsterdam Ferry CD for us. He explains very precisely and technically how this is against hotel policy as any foreign CD might introduce a virus into their computerised playing system and so corrupt their entire network and that it was his responsibility to ensure that this didn't happy. I said, Ok you've done the official bit now can you just put it on please? Nee problem hen, who is it? Bryan Ferry. I thought he was dead. Later he delighted us with his choice of music - Mud and Shawaddywaddy. He emptied the bar. Lindsay delighted the bemused passers-by with a spot of go-go dancing in the plate glass windows of the bar, and then we had to finally admit the Scottish sojourn had come to a close. Ivor, Reecey and Lindsay were heading for the capital next day, Jane and Al were probably packing for another exotic holiday, and Han was taking his Michael Jackson legs back to Dutchland. Newcastle next and I'm already fretting that it'll never live up to the Edinburgh experience. Taxi! Jocelyn ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 18:24:47 -0000 From: "thom.wallace" Subject: Re: [AVALON] More than this? - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Stockman" To: "thom.wallace" ; "Avalon" ; "Mike Billmann" Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 4:26 PM Subject: RE: [AVALON] More than this? > Its quite crazy to dismiss More Than This as not much of a song. Unfortunately for you Martin everyone is entitled to their own views. As a lyric "More Then This" leaves me cold, there's not much in there for starters. Musically the track is pleasant, but not exactly challenging. It's success if any is owed to its layered production, much like the entire "Avalon" album. Now these are my views, I wouldn't term the ones you hold as any crazier than mine, but just a little like "More Then This" they're wonderfully put, but with little substance. Tom. ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:32:23 +0000 (GMT) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?jeanne=20louise?= Subject: [AVALON] What about York Jocelyn,such fun to read your review as usual,can we expect a part 2? Ed said to ask you if we wanted to know what happened back at the hotel in York....JL. Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 20:44:00 +0100 From: "cor broersen" Subject: [AVALON] RE Tick Toc Tick Tack price versus lenght of the gig???? Re-make/Re-model plays for about two hours, ticketprice:5 That's five euro's, one euro is 1,50 pound or a little under 5 dollar Where no milionair's, but we like to make music and play. Milionairs as we all know sometime like to play (depending on the money)and of course they like to make more and more milions. Q. How many benefits has Bryan done??? anyone know this?? So please don't pitty the stars who charge over 100 what ever currency (That's 20 Re-make/Re-model gigs) They are laughing all the way to the bank. But (I wil not speak for the other guy's)I am laughing all the way to and from the gig. Greetings Cor Blimey! NP Frank Zappa-Where only in it for the money (not) _________________________________________________________________ Chatten met je vrienden via het web? Probeer MSN Messenger http://messenger.msn.nl/default.asp?client=1 ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 19:53:21 -0000 From: "Mark Yates" Subject: Re: [AVALON] More than this? Sorry Martin. But I for one am glad it was "ditched" In my opinion it happens to be one of the weakest songs Roxy recorded. I wouldn't have substituted it for any of the Manchester set. Mark - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Stockman" To: "thom.wallace" ; "Avalon" ; "Mike Billmann" Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 4:26 PM Subject: RE: [AVALON] More than this? > More Than This is rightly recognised by the band and the cognoscenti alike > as one of the finest songs in the canon. Lovingly crafted , beautifully > played, it stands at the very centre of Ferry's lush soundscape that flows > through the champagne and novacaine middle period. Not just Bryan but Andy > too, both are on record extolling the charms of this nugget. Its quite crazy > to dismiss More Than This as not much of a song. > > The final minute captures the extraordinary interplay between Hubbard and > Manzo, an outro evoking the Arthurian legend of the album's title and the > mists on the Galway lake on the album's sleeve. I was lucky enough to hear > this song in Dublin last year, the vocals flawed but still haunting. You > were left with the sense of how much Bryan wanted it to work, and how > painful was the realisation that the notes were beyond him. And, apart from > that studio performance at Compass Point, Nassau, in 1983, one wonders if > the voice was ever up to it. I know, like me, some dear Avalonions have > chanced upon the unreleased rehearsal recording when the Maestro prefaces > the run-through with .."And now for the problem number.." little knowing > that the problem would still be a subject of discussion nearly twenty years > later. > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org]On Behalf Of > thom.wallace > Sent: 29 October 2002 13:15 > To: Avalon; Mike Billmann > Subject: Re: [AVALON] More than this? > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Billmann" > To: "avalon" > Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 5:39 AM > Subject: Re: [AVALON] More than this? > > > > For those of you who have heard it on the reunion tour, do you think it > was worth it and would like to hear it again? > > It was passable live and no more. Would I like to hear it again live? Not > really, it's not much of a song at its best. > > Tom. > > You can also contact me at: TomWallace@vivaroxymusic.com > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html > US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html > US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 21:40:27 +0100 From: Mats Andersson Subject: Re: [AVALON] More than this? Mike Billmann wrote: > > .... being overplayed, it's the difficulty of the song. It's a shame that such a beautiful song can't be consistantly reproduced live, even in a lower key. I wonder if Bryan wishes he could sing it? Just a thought: If you listen carefully to More then this on the album you can hear that Bryan's leadvocal is quite dubbed [he has sung the song a number of times]. Sometimes they do this as an effect but most often they do this to make the voice sound 'not so thin'. This procedure is hard to make live. You must be, at least, twins... ;-) Maybe it was hard for him to sing the song already then. Mats ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 22:51:39 +0100 From: "cor broersen" Subject: [AVALON] Re: More then This?? Mats Andersson wrote: Just a thought: If you listen carefully to More then this on the album you can hear that Bryan's leadvocal is quite dubbed [he has sung the song a number of times]. Sometimes they do this as an effect but most often they do this to make the voice sound 'not so thin'. This procedure is hard to make live. You must be, at least, twins... ;-) It can be done Mats, like John Lennon and others who'll use a so called ADT for that. An ADT is an "automatic double tracker" It works bij splitting up the signal (vocal)in two (hence double)separate lines, then adding a little delay on one line. Done with taste the effect is verry apparant as on Instant Karma and a lot of other songs bij JL. Nowaday's you can use a digitech "vocalist" A digital device that can produce a complete fourvoice choir based on the leadvocals signal. You can even program the key's in witch to sing in. Fourvoice chorus!! Manhattan Transfer anyone?? Mamma Mi!, Mamma Mia! This is the device people refering too when they say: Oh Yeah in the studio they have machines that can make anyone sound good. Hi Madonna! I'll bet ye that I, me, even could sound serieusly like say The Four Tops would I have a Vocalist. Like to be a singer? Can't sing? Does your spous hate you for singing? Get (buy, nick, lend) one as soon as you can!!! Maybe it was hard for him to sing the song already then. By lowering the speed (pitch) of the recorder two to tree semitones and then record the vocal, you come out with tree to two semitones higher pitch. I don't think that Bryan has a problem getting the right pitch of songs(exept incidental one off's) But like all ageing singers the timbre of the voice goes lower on both man and woman, so it does with Bry's. Singing in high pitch without a high timbre result in the kindda nonsinging that Joe Cocker use to often "do" when the notes are just to high to even produce any sound. But Joe is singing those note's! I don't think any of us would like to hear Bryan sound like Joe, do we?? seeya, Cor Blimey! _________________________________________________________________ Kijk uit voor valse kettingbrieven! Klik hier voor meer informatie http://www.msn.nl/services/hotmail/kettingbrieven/ ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 22:17:55 +0000 From: "Andrew Shearer" Subject: Re: [AVALON] RAH (long post) Sorry this is a bit delayed but I thought you'd be interested anyway..... This from the Daily Express 10/10/02 Despite going out with a woman 35 years his junior, crooner Bryan Ferry looked less than thrilled at Nicky Haslams bash at London restaurant Sakusam on Tuesday. Ferry, 57  who is on a UK tour  didnt want to be photographed with his new flame, 21 year old backing singer Katie Turner, whom he started seeing after revealing that his 20-year old marriage was over. Bryan arrived with Katie after his concert but when he realized photographers were in the room he threw a wobbly says our man munching the nibbles. He complained too Nicky and only stayed five minutes more before waltzing (!) out. Happily there was soon a replacement  Ferrys son Otis, 19 popped up after his father had done a runner. Otis stayed late in the company of some pretty blondes. This from the Daily Telegraph 9/10/02 by Tom Horan. Im not sure it was the same concert that I was at, but there you go... Has a pop star taken to the stage with more beautifully washed hair than Bryan Ferry at the Albert Hall? Doubtless Eric Clapton has had moments of bouffant elegance during his interminable residencies here, but for bounce, movement and body, Ferrys opening night barnet was unsurpassable. The man was a living lesson in personal grooming. But then, the gentleman Geordie almost single-handedly introduced Britain to the concept of sophistication. In the dark days of the early 1972, while the rest of the country downed pickled eggs and beer from a Watneys Party Seven, Roxy Musics white tuxedoed front man was gliding around with a pencil moustache squiring Jerry Hall and sipping Campari sodas. Ferry was poised and louche as the adoring full house could possibly have hoped. But what has made this show outstanding was the 57-year olds refusal merely to trundle through the old Roxy faves. He put on a performance that had as many changes of tone and tempo as his dancers had changes of outfit. Roxy Musics manager once remarked of the band that it was Ferry that did all the work, while Brian Eno did all the shagging. Certainly the singer was not content to remain seated for long, striding centre stage after a beguiling Havana Moon to welcome a harpist and violinist alongside him. His voice was strong and smooth, sliding over the strings in a sort of chamber croon. Ferry discretely raised a harmonica to his lips and blew it with a warped, dirty passion, utterly at odds with his bespoke suit and patent winklepickers. One by one, a 12 piece band began to assemble around him. I wish I was in Carrickfergus, he sang, as three lissom backing singers in milky suits and Philip Tracy hats took their places. Around the auditorium, husbands arms were snaking around their wives shoulders; jumpers were coming off. As the band hit Slave to Love, there was a sedate surge to the front. For a moment it seemed that the ice-cool Bry was reaching down a hand to his disciples  but it turned out he was adjusting the sheet music on a stand hidden below the stage. Songs from Frantic, his excellent new albums, were intercut with tight innovative arrangements of Love is the Drug, Jealous Guy, Lets Stick Together and Shame on You. Above all, Ferry came across as ambitious and interested. At the end, the displaced son of Tyne and Wear smiled like a shy schoolboy. The last line of his last song was impeccably apt: Im a stranger in your town, and thats the place that I belong. Anybody for spot the errors? Regards, Andrew _________________________________________________________________ Broadband? Dial-up? Get reliable MSN Internet Access. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Oct 2002 22:49:59 EST From: LaTerre1973@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Las Vegas show Hi, I just rejoined Avalon after a brief spell. I'll be attending the Las Vegas show on November 25th. Are there any meet-ups planned for that day? I also have 1 extra ticket to the show, if anyone needs to buy one. Here are the details: Golden Circle, Row L, Seat 30. I already emailed Cecilia to have the info posted on her page as well. If anyone is interested in meeting or buying a ticket, contact me directly. Christina ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V7 #358 **************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest