From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V7 #344 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Thursday, October 17 2002 Volume 07 : Number 344 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [AVALON] Why in the World are you so Cool ? ["Robert Whiteford" ] [AVALON] Gap-less Munich ["Arnold Schulberg" ] RE: [AVALON] Thanks ["Martin Stockman" ] Re: [AVALON] Why in the World are you so Cool ? [KB Porter ] Re: [AVALON] Why in the World are you so Cool ? [David Firmin ] Re: [AVALON] Life In Mono [Johnny Reece ] RE: [AVALON] Why in the World ? ["Cassidy, Chris J (CPS)" ] RE: [AVALON] Life In Mono ["Arnold Schulberg" ] [AVALON] Thanks ["Bryan S Richards" ] [AVALON] amsterdamcd ["karin verboom" ] Re: [AVALON] Why in the World are you so Cool ? [DEAGLERR@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] Why in the World are you so Cool ? [DEAGLERR@aol.com] RE: [AVALON] Why in the World are you so Cool ? ["Martin Stockman" ] Re: [AVALON] Why in the World are you so Cool ? ["Mark Yates" ] Re: [AVALON] Leicester Tonight ["terrypaulrigz8c" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Why in the World are you so Cool ? R Deagle writes: > While I won't go so far as to call Frantic crap, I will say it's a huge > disappointment. > The VASTLY SUPERIOR ALPHAVILLE , blows it out of the water. > Actually Cruel appeared on the sadly un-released Alphaville, which WOULD have > been after B&G. > But then I've said all this before. Yes, the Cruel mix on Alphaville is excellent and I've posted on here before about how Love War, Alphaville, You Can Dance etc are all too good to be canned. San Simeon is better too. But Alphaville does lack some energy towards the end and hasn't got I Thought on it. All about opinions but Frantic just isn't crap with songs like Cruel and I thought on it. I'm relieved it s so good. Taxi - now thats crap apart from the title track. > The version of Horoscope that is making the rounds seems flat and nowhere > near the final polish of BF's usual work there are a couple of oddities that > may deserve future airing. > I.E.: Midnight Train, Your Love Has Died, Blinded by the Life All about opinions I think Horoscope is miles better than Mamouna which is as flat as it gets. The nature of the recording may have to do with it sounding flat. As you say Your Love has Died is a great song, and there isn't a bad one on it. Gemini Moon is bursting with energy and is a far better track on Horoscope. In fact looking back on it the production on Mamouna ruined almost everything except Your Painted Smile. The acoustic versions of The Only Face bear this out - much more beautiful than the overproduced smoothed out no emotion LP version. Either way the stuff should have been released at the time. Cheers Rob ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 09:00:09 EDT From: OBrienFerry@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Thanks Thanks to all of you who mailed me about the recent injury to my foot, it is fine now and wont be missing any more Ferry shows because of it. The doctor has told me it's fine now and I could even play football for the Macedonian national team if I wanted to. Chuckling up my Scottish sleeve J.O'B. (Any non Brits contact me off list for an explanation of my cryptic message) ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 01:10:54 -0400 From: "Keith Shockley" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Bowie Hammersmith - ----- Original Message ----- From: Tracy Elliott To: ; Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 1:36 PM Subject: RE: [AVALON] Bowie Hammersmith According to www.dvdplanet.com "David Bowie: The Best of David Bowie" will be released on dvd on Novenber 5. This is a two disc set consisitng of 47 tracks of Bowie videos and rare live performances from Old Grey Whistle Test, Top of the Pops, and others. If you want the exact url, email me off-list and I will email it to you. Keith NP: The Look of Love / Dusty Springfield > Richard > > >n/p Bowie at Hammersmith - Oct 2, 2002 (e-mail me offlist for > details...) > > Oohhhhh ...... details please ....... > > Hope all is okay with you. > > Regards. > T > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.394 / Virus Database: 224 - Release Date: 03/10/2002 > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html > US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 09:31:59 -0400 From: "Arnold Schulberg" Subject: [AVALON] Gap-less Munich Does anyone in the States have a copy of the Munich radio broadcast that doesn't have gaps between the songs? Please contact me off-list. Thanks. Arnie ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 14:58:34 +0100 From: "Martin Stockman" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Thanks Piss off peg leg ! - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org]On Behalf Of OBrienFerry@aol.com Sent: 17 October 2002 14:00 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: [AVALON] Thanks Thanks to all of you who mailed me about the recent injury to my foot, it is fine now and wont be missing any more Ferry shows because of it. The doctor has told me it's fine now and I could even play football for the Macedonian national team if I wanted to. Chuckling up my Scottish sleeve J.O'B. (Any non Brits contact me off list for an explanation of my cryptic message) ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 11:09:29 -0400 From: KB Porter Subject: Re: [AVALON] Why in the World are you so Cool ? "While I won't go so far as to call Frantic crap, I will say it's a huge disappointment." I second this motion! I was and do remain massively disappointed with "Frantic". I was hoping for an album of depth on the cold heels of "Mamouna", an album that I rate as Ferry's best solo work. First, the artwork of "Frantic" is atrocious. Ferry looks like a bum with fag dangling. A child could have been (maybe a child was) the album jacket designer. It is as appealing as is Godsmack's album cover which appeals to a market that I am not a part of. - Perhaps Ferry et al no longer consider me and others, who find the artwork of "Frantic" to be somewhat distasteful, a market segment not worthy of consideration? (Perhaps, since I'm not considered part of the crush, I won't buy one of those teeny tees the vendors are hawking at BF shows.) The first listening of "Frantic" was extremely anti climatic. Song three, "Goin' Down", was the first cut of this album to catch my interest - and that is primarily due to my affection for JJCale who has previously done this number to perfection. I remember cringing at the majority of tunes thinking, yeah, there's lots of guitars, no -I don't think this is a rock'n roll album, yuck, why has he massacred these songs! My ears were greatly soothed by Hiroshima - the only one of two songs on the album penned solely by Ferry that wasn't altered from the original on "Alphaville". Nearly one half the album is comprised of covers tunes that are mostly done like the originals - not inspired, nor inspiring. Subsequent listening is tolerated. I admit warming a bit to "Goddess Of Love", the rendition of "San Simeon " is pleasant. "Nobody Loves me" starts too abruptly. I will never forgive this album's version of "A Fool For Love" as it is augmented by a very small portion of the unpublished extremely excellent "Love War" (gotta love the war witch - na na nah, na nah, na na, nah). "I Thought" is the very best of the truly 'new' compositions. I pray he never covers Bob Dylan again - not that I don't like Dylan. Bottom line: Selfish me expects to hear Ferry do Ferry. I don't understand why Ferry refuses to do Ferry, because Ferry is superior to anything other than Ferry -even when Ferry isn't being Ferry good. "Frantic" doesn't rate my first hand among his solo works. Best wishes. KBP PS - "Frantic is the unpolished sibling of "Alphaville", the same way that "Horoscope" is the unpolished sibling of "Mamouna". Has Ferry anymore hidden relatives out there? ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 11:39:57 -0400 From: KB Porter Subject: Re: [AVALON] Why in the World ? "Either way the stuff should have been released at the time." I second this motion, too! Why in the world does some great work sit on the shelf while covers and such are paraded to market? Has all this really been wise marketing? Or has it all been divined by daisies. Darts, anyone? ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 08:51:29 -0700 (PDT) From: David Firmin Subject: Re: [AVALON] Why in the World are you so Cool ? I'm not going to write an essay. I just wanted to say that Frantic is my favorite Ferry album since Bride in '78. It seems he was trying to please the old school fans by putting out an album that starts with a rockin' cover and ends with one of his best solo songs. (Sorry, but the Dave Stewart tunes are lacking). Anyway, It's much better than I expected. He finally broke the tiresome mold that was so prevalent through the '80s and '90s. Okay, back to work :( you wrote: > "While I won't go so far as to call Frantic crap, I will say it's a huge disappointment." *** Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 09:38:06 -0700 (PDT) From: David Firmin Subject: [AVALON] Life In Mono I heard this song on the radio that I loved. It was called 'Life In Mono'. I did a little research on Yahoo and found out the song is by Mono on an album called Formica Blues (1997). The funny thing is I found this info on Reecey's Faves page! *** ===== Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 09:44:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Johnny Reece Subject: Re: [AVALON] Life In Mono ... and it's one of the best Singles ever ! A damn good Album, too (yeah, I'm biased). Great shame they only made one Album together. Singer, Siobhan de Mare went on to front 'Velvet Indiana' - great voice, duff songs though, what a waste ! Incidentally, 'Life In Mono' was released here in the UK on 3 occasions, but still never made it. Last heard as backing on a car advert ! Reecey... Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 17:53:18 +0100 From: "Cassidy, Chris J (CPS)" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Why in the World ? I can only imagine that it's because that's mainly what Ferry wants to do and that what someone may consider as his 'great work' , he doesn't? Why would he not want to put out his best work? Possibly, because he has a finite amount of 'great' work left in the can and he's spreading it out (lyrics from San Simeon written circa '72/3!) rather than trying to create one more 'masterpiece' (though some would no doubt consider it 'crap' as they have today in the case of 'Mamouna', which personally I place in the masterpiece category) and then hang his boots up? Though, wasn't the issue with 'Horoscope' the fact that he couldn't get it released, not that he didn't want to? Could be wrong on that one. Will we ever know all the answers? Probably not. Does Mr Ferry! Regards Chris > -----Original Message----- > From: KB Porter [SMTP:kbporte@attglobal.net] > Sent: 17 October 2002 16:40 > To: avalon@smoe.org > Subject: Re: [AVALON] Why in the World ? > > "Either way the stuff should have been released at the > time." > > I second this motion, too! > > Why in the world does some great work sit on the shelf while > covers and such are paraded to market? Has all this really > been wise marketing? Or has it all been divined by > daisies. Darts, anyone? > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > _ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html > US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 11:58:02 -0500 From: "Forster, Scott" Subject: [AVALON] Alphaville Well it is time for me to throw my request into the ring. Does anyone have a copy of Alphaville that they would be willing to make a copy of for me? It would be greatly appreciated. Please email me off-list. Scott ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 13:09:42 -0400 From: "Arnold Schulberg" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Life In Mono Singer, Siobhan de Mare went on to front 'Velvet Indiana' - great voice, duff songs though, what a waste ! Then there was the terrible waste of James Dewar's solo album. Terrific bluesy singer for Robin Trower; when he did a solo album he wanted to be a pop singer. Another great voice, duff songs. arnie ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 18:14:15 +0100 From: "Bryan S Richards" Subject: [AVALON] Thanks Hi Martin, How ungracious to John. We in Wales would never chuckle at the misfortunes of the star studded English team. Gracious in a Welsh victory. Bryan ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 19:16:08 +0200 From: "karin verboom" Subject: [AVALON] amsterdamcd I be willing to make 3 copy's of the amsterdam concert from 9 september this year.(at costprice!!) Please mail of list karin verboom ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 13:21:46 EDT From: DEAGLERR@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Why in the World are you so Cool ? kbporte@attglobal.net writes: << "Frantic is the unpolished sibling of "Alphaville", the same way that "Horoscope" is the unpolished sibling of "Mamouna." Has Ferry anymore hidden relatives out there? >> The whole thang suggest that Ferry had a massive loss of confidence iafter Boys & Girls. Seems to me, B & G came out & he wanted to go in a more rock direction. So he hooks up with Dave Stuart and... Alphaville. But something sticks in our boy's craw and he doesn't release it. (Too much Dave influence?) So back to the drawing board, & out pops (or painfully squeezes) Horoscope. Still not satisfied he refuses to release THAT. BF will be BF, whether I (or WE) like it or not. From this perspective Mr. Ferry seems to have shot himself in the foot with the omission of A & H being released in their proper order. I happen to like Taxi & Mamouna, so maybe as my Granny used to say, "things happen for the best." BUT liking Alphaville more than most of his more recent production (including Taxi & Mamouna) ... kinda makes you wonder, Don't it. Regards, R Deagle ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 13:26:41 EDT From: DEAGLERR@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Why in the World are you so Cool ? Obviously we are looking, and liking, different facets of the marvelous jewel that is Bryan ferry. So... let's mud wrestle to see who's right!!! Just kidding. Regards R Deagle ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 18:46:10 +0100 From: "Martin Stockman" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Why in the World are you so Cool ? Wasn't there something about the record company deeming one or t'other unlistenable? (Which brings to mind Bryan's tragic rhetorical question to the late lamented Puxley, on reading Mamouna reviews, "Am I really that bad?") - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org]On Behalf Of DEAGLERR@aol.com Sent: 17 October 2002 18:22 To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: Re: [AVALON] Why in the World are you so Cool ? kbporte@attglobal.net writes: << "Frantic is the unpolished sibling of "Alphaville", the same way that "Horoscope" is the unpolished sibling of "Mamouna." Has Ferry anymore hidden relatives out there? >> The whole thang suggest that Ferry had a massive loss of confidence iafter Boys & Girls. Seems to me, B & G came out & he wanted to go in a more rock direction. So he hooks up with Dave Stuart and... Alphaville. But something sticks in our boy's craw and he doesn't release it. (Too much Dave influence?) So back to the drawing board, & out pops (or painfully squeezes) Horoscope. Still not satisfied he refuses to release THAT. BF will be BF, whether I (or WE) like it or not. >From this perspective Mr. Ferry seems to have shot himself in the foot with the omission of A & H being released in their proper order. I happen to like Taxi & Mamouna, so maybe as my Granny used to say, "things happen for the best." BUT liking Alphaville more than most of his more recent production (including Taxi & Mamouna) ... kinda makes you wonder, Don't it. Regards, R Deagle ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 11:25:23 -0700 From: "mark shanahan" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Why in the World are you so Cool ? first ... ferry hooked up w/stewart just after 'b&g'?? are you sure? and - i thought the 'massive loss of confidence' was post-'mamouna' ... which seemed to actually be worse than post-'bsb', no? i recall the collaboration with stewart was re: 'horoscope' ... and this is when mentions of 'unlistenables' were made by the record company. thus 'taxi', then finally 'mamouna'. et voila 'alphaville', oui? or am i confusing the issue more than even i'm confused about it? i recall the timeline differently. btw, i like 'frantic' quite a bit, but i have to say i haven't listened to it quite as much as i thought i would. i feel somewhat ambiguous about it (as a whole) and haven't nailed down exactly _what_ i think of it. some tunes are ... some of the best things he's done, but the continuity - regardless of genres - is a little ... i don't know - goofy. it's actually causing me a lot of trouble! makes me just want to get in there and get that ferry camp to straighten up and fly right. if that isn't a laugh, i don't know what is ... peaces/ms _______________________________________________________________ Get the FREE email that has everyone talking at http://www.mail2world.com <-----Original Message-----> >From: Martin Stockman >Wasn't there something about the record company deeming one or t'other >unlistenable? (Which brings to mind Bryan's tragic rhetorical question to >the late lamented Puxley, on reading Mamouna reviews, "Am I really that >bad?") > >-----Original Message----- >From: DEAGLERR@aol.com > >The whole thang suggest that Ferry had a massive loss of confidence iafter >Boys & Girls. >Seems to me, B & G came out & he wanted to go in a more rock direction. >So he hooks up with Dave Stuart and... Alphaville. >But something sticks in our boy's craw and he doesn't release it. >(Too much Dave influence?) [cut] ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 20:32:20 +0200 From: "cor broersen" Subject: [AVALON] Why would he not want to put out his best work? Cris Cassidy wrote Why would he not want to put out his best work? Possibly, because he has a finite amount of 'great' work left in the can and he's spreading it out (lyrics from San Simeon written circa '72/3!) Come on Cris! plain lazy if you ask me The guy needed some lyrics and he'd had some in the can It is not that he wrote the lyrics from SS in 72 like you try to sugest But the other way around he could not come up with some lyrics and thought I'll use some old lyrics. And reading the lyrics it can't stand next to the almost surealistic words from IEDAH Using old stuff is just so sad for his reputation From al his original work on frantic you can!!! hear that the music was there first and lyrics added. Spreading it out??? No....living in the past yes..... I want to hear wat his artistic stature is now and not in 72 when he was in Roxy. It is like a painter presenting some new paintings with most of the painting done 30 years back, a cool gimmick notting more nothing less. We play SS with remake and I love the song, but Bryan is a lazy sod. A work becomes great in the future but at the moment of lyrics writing it's just some rhyming words, noting genius about that. cor blimey! _________________________________________________________________ Wil je je beveiligen tegen Ongewenste Post? Klik hier voor tips http://www.msn.nl/services/hotmail/ongewenst/ ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 19:48:42 +0100 From: "Mark Heptinstall" Subject: [AVALON] Amsterdam CD Tree I am happy to tree up to 10 copies of the Amsterdam CD. Price to UK Avalonians is GBP1.60. Other countries dependent upon postal charges. Please e-mail me off list supplying your name and address with the words "Amsterdam CD" in the title. Regards Mark ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 21:47:53 +0100 From: "Mark Yates" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Why in the World are you so Cool ? "Mamouna" Ferry's finest solo work "Frantic" a huge disappointment "I Pray he never covers Dylan again" Eh!!!! Personally I think Frantic is Ferry's finest solo work "Mamouna" is one of his weakest albums it has little substance, drifts around aimlessly yet goes nowhere. and I wish Ferry would do a full album of Dylan covers...I find that out of all the covers he has done the Dylan covers are his best. "How different we are" Mark. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "KB Porter" To: Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 4:09 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Why in the World are you so Cool ? > "While I won't go so far as to call Frantic crap, I will say > it's a huge disappointment." > > I second this motion! I was and do remain massively > disappointed with "Frantic". I was hoping for an album of > depth on the cold heels of "Mamouna", an album that I rate > as Ferry's best solo work. > > First, the artwork of "Frantic" is atrocious. Ferry looks > like a bum with fag dangling. A child could have been > (maybe a child was) the album jacket designer. It is as > appealing as is Godsmack's album cover which appeals to a > market that I am not a part of. - Perhaps Ferry et al no > longer consider me and others, who find the artwork of > "Frantic" to be somewhat distasteful, a market segment not > worthy of consideration? (Perhaps, since I'm not considered > part of the crush, I won't buy one of those teeny tees the > vendors are hawking at BF shows.) > > The first listening of "Frantic" was extremely > anti climatic. Song three, "Goin' Down", was the first cut > of this album to catch my interest - and that is primarily > due to my affection for JJCale who has previously done this > number to perfection. I remember cringing at the majority > of tunes thinking, yeah, there's lots of guitars, no -I > don't think this is a rock'n roll album, yuck, why has he > massacred these songs! My ears were greatly soothed by > Hiroshima - the only one of two songs on the album penned > solely by Ferry that wasn't altered from the original on > "Alphaville". Nearly one half the album is comprised of > covers tunes that are mostly done like the originals - > not inspired, nor inspiring. > > Subsequent listening is tolerated. I admit warming a bit > to "Goddess Of Love", the rendition of "San Simeon " is > pleasant. "Nobody Loves me" starts too abruptly. I will > never forgive this album's version of "A Fool For Love" as > it is augmented by a very small portion of the unpublished > extremely excellent "Love War" (gotta love the war witch - > na na nah, na nah, na na, nah). "I Thought" is the very > best of the truly 'new' compositions. I pray he never > covers Bob Dylan again - not that I don't like Dylan. > > Bottom line: Selfish me expects to hear Ferry do Ferry. > I don't understand why Ferry refuses to do Ferry, because > Ferry is superior to anything other than Ferry -even when > Ferry isn't being Ferry good. "Frantic" doesn't rate my > first hand among his solo works. > > Best wishes. KBP > > PS - "Frantic is the unpolished sibling of "Alphaville", the > same way that "Horoscope" is the unpolished sibling of > "Mamouna". Has Ferry anymore hidden relatives out there? > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html > US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 17:30:49 EDT From: DEAGLERR@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Why in the World are you so Cool ? YO! I think the sequence was: Boys & Girls Alphaville (not released) Horoscope (not released) Taxi Mamouna Frantic BF SEEMS to loose confidence, or just plain get bogged down, navel gasing at most any time. BEFORE YOU GUYS ATTACK... he's doing something I can't making great music. I just wish he'd bow to my will. Don't we all. Humbly, R Deagle ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 23:04:13 +0100 From: "thom.wallace" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Why in the World are you so Cool ? - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 10:30 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Why in the World are you so Cool ? > I think the sequence was: > Boys & Girls > Alphaville (not released) > Horoscope (not released) > Taxi > Mamouna > Frantic Sorry no prize for this gent, the correct answer is. Boys & Girls Bete Noire Horoscope (not released) Taxi Mamouna Alphaville (not released) (Plus another cd's worth of unreleased material) As Time Goes By Various demos of Dylan songs and other covers (not released) Frantic You can also contact me at: TomWallace@vivaroxymusic.com ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 18:39:21 EDT From: Stevesiren@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Leicester Tonight There's always something special about your favourite artist playing your home town, I'm sure you'll agree. Tonight Ferry came back to De Montfort Hall for the first time since the Manifesto tour & for an hour & half I was 17 again, flicking my hair out of my eyes. The set list was exactly the same as the previous few nights, but the crowd were "uo" much earlier than at Nottingham(, thanks to Terry O '& friend!) & the the front was packed after the first few notes of "The Thrill" & unlike Nottingham they all stayed standing. I've mentioned this before but Mick Green really makes LST enjoyable again, this bands version is far superior than the ATGB tour, or in fact any other tour. To top a memorable night ( oh & thanks to Mark Stephens for getting me the tickets last aprill) Katie Siren (my 16yr. old daughter) caught Paul Thompsons eye & he threw her his drumstick, !!( lucky...) For those of you who like attention to detail, Ferry dresses to the left...... See you in Manchester. Steve Steve, See ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 17 Oct 2002 18:48:08 -0400 From: Subject: [AVALON] Important National Update Hello and Greeting to All. I hope you are well. Upon my return to the US I have received correspondence from numerous pubs, restaurants and hotels in the UK, namely those in Birmingham near the NIA, The Hyatt Regency and along Broad Street; in and though out the City of Bath and in London near the Albert Hall and in and around the Soho  Covent Garden area. All establishments report that restocking procedures are still moving forward at a frenzied pace and that most manner of refreshment previously offered should once again be available in the next 24 to 48 hours. The one exception in all this being the Gore at 190 Queens Gate, which still reports Tiger Beer to be in critically short supply. I and fellow Avalonians offer a sigh of regret for what ever inconvenience and or personal trauma this may have caused the local patrons in our wake. In related news the Gore Hotel is said to be currently in talks with DeBeers on number of future ventures after a recent, sudden influx of cash and the Dog & Duck is said to taking into serious consideration the idea listing itself on both the New York and London Exchanges. More news when we have it. In the mean time.. My Best Regards John Dillon So boys and girls, do you like that rock and roll music, do ya? David Letterman ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 00:23:18 +0100 From: "terrypaulrigz8c" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Leicester Tonight Hi Martin, Couldn't agree more, great night, pity no "Just Like You", but hell they have improve "Shame,Shame,Shame" 100%. Thanks for coming to say hi!. That was my last (& 2nd) show of the tour so all the best to those of you yet to savour the delights of Bryans dressing habbits! Goodnight All Terry "O" - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 11:39 PM Subject: [AVALON] Leicester Tonight > There's always something special about your favourite artist playing your > home town, I'm sure you'll agree. Tonight Ferry came back to De Montfort Hall > for the first time since the Manifesto tour & for an hour & half I was 17 > again, flicking my hair out of my eyes. > The set list was exactly the same as the previous few nights, but the crowd > were "uo" much earlier than at Nottingham(, thanks to Terry O '& friend!) & > the the front was packed after the first few notes of "The Thrill" & unlike > Nottingham they all stayed standing. > I've mentioned this before but Mick Green really makes LST enjoyable again, > this bands version is far superior than the ATGB tour, or in fact any other > tour. > > To top a memorable night ( oh & thanks to Mark Stephens for getting me the > tickets last aprill) Katie Siren (my 16yr. old daughter) caught Paul > Thompsons eye & he threw her his drumstick, !!( lucky...) > For those of you who like attention to detail, Ferry dresses to the > left...... > See you in Manchester. > Steve > Steve, See > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html > US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 00:27:27 +0100 From: "Cassidy, Chris J (CPS)" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Why in the World are you so Cool ? The 'Alphaville' sessions with Dave Stewart were circa 95/6 . And how could you forget ATGB? Tut tut. And let's not forget, Mr Ferry is a human being and is entitled to a bad day at the office - or even a few years, given his overall output. Mr Ferry owes me nothing that's for sure. Regards Chris > -----Original Message----- > From: DEAGLERR@aol.com [SMTP:DEAGLERR@aol.com] > Sent: 17 October 2002 22:31 > To: m_shanahan@mail2batman.com; avalon@smoe.org > Subject: Re: [AVALON] Why in the World are you so Cool ? > > YO! > I think the sequence was: > Boys & Girls > Alphaville (not released) > Horoscope (not released) > Taxi > Mamouna > Frantic > > BF SEEMS to loose confidence, or just plain get bogged down, navel gasing > at > most any time. > BEFORE YOU GUYS ATTACK... he's doing something I can't making great music. > I just wish he'd bow to my will. > Don't we all. > Humbly, R Deagle > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > _ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html > US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V7 #344 **************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest