From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V7 #340 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Monday, October 14 2002 Volume 07 : Number 340 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [AVALON] Amsterdam Tree ["Bryan S Richards" ] Re: [AVALON] RAH pics/FERRY BOYS ["ncjones.lewis2" ] Re: [AVALON] Re: cruel [KB Porter ] [AVALON] Me again [lorelei@zoom.co.uk] [AVALON] London Evening Standard Review 08/10/02 ["Maggie Curran" ] To leave the list, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon-digest ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 10:56:09 +0100 From: "Bryan S Richards" Subject: [AVALON] Amsterdam Tree Hi Guys, This is now available for the UK. Usual rules reply. Contact me if you want a copy. Cheers, Bryan You can also mail me at: bryansrichards@yahoo.co.uk richarb@aisl.co.uk ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 11:58:03 +0100 From: "ncjones.lewis2" Subject: Re: [AVALON] RAH pics/FERRY BOYS My wife just squealed in recognition when she saw the Otis pics. He was standing right behind her during the show and was pushing his younger brother forward to where another friend was dancing in a rather frenzied manner! Anyway the younger of the Ferry boys was soon up on the shoulders of his friend(looking rather embarrassed BTW!) with some help from myself, and a woman standing to my right, to steady the assent (as it were.) Bryan looked quite surprised to see him from the stage and gave a quick smile. Another steadying hand from us on the descent, and he was back on terra firma. Looking quite embarrassed. He eventually left his older friend to his mad jiggin' Thanks for confirming my suspicion David. Regards Neil Jones. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Firmin" To: Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 5:36 PM Subject: [AVALON] RAH pics > At this link > http://www.rexfeatures.com/cgi-bin/rppshow0?k=bryan+ferry > > Click little images to enlarge. some Otis pics too. > > *** > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html > US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 07:54:42 EDT From: KWil632057@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Daily Mail gives 5 star review Big thumbs up from the Mail on Sunday for the RAH shows. Even a demand that Ferry should be getting a lifetime achievement nod asap. Jonathan ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 14:44:26 +0200 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: Re: [AVALON] SOTW: "Could It Happen To Me" A bit too late, but I never did send this one. >I love all of _Siren_. It's easily my favorite Roxy Music album, and one >of my favorite albums of all time. I loved it even before I was old >enough to really understand it, and now that I am old enough to understand >it, well, it's a strange form of comfort at times. Siren is the CD that I discovered Roxy with, Viva made me chack out the back catalogue. It's one my faxorirte Roxy anymore, but I guess I have to give it a spin (when I pick it up on CD...) >I'd make the case that _Siren_ is the most direct and personal (which is >not the same as autobiographical) of any of Ferry's work, either with Roxy >or on his own. It's immediate and heartfelt. Most important, it rings >true. I think that writing with Manzanera and Mackay helped Ferry. I think that the first two albums were made out of songs that Ferry had already written, from Stranded and on they had to write more material, songs like Psalm were used but by the time of Siren Ferry was a 30 year old star and probably mature enough to write, as you put it, direct and personal work. >One of the most delicious parts of falling in love are those >excruciatingly wonderful moments just before you find out for certain how >the other person feels. I always say, when I am asked about my fetishes >(ha! You'd be surprised at the questions otherwise buttoned-up gentlemen >feel comfortable in asking buttoned-up me) that one of them is >anticipation. I love those moments before something happens, when you can >imagine all the ways they might unfold. And then when they do unfold, >well, there's nothing like it. After being single and then getting married almost two years ago, I understand this--but on the hand, it's fun to complete each other's sentences. I like the fact that I know where my wife stands on issues. >Ferry's narrator, sitting home in his own anticipatory state > >> Is it easy to say "I do"? >> At this moment I love you >> See beyond me, it's true >> Now that evening is closing in >> Should I light that fire again? >> Could it happen to me? >> Did it happen to you? > >knows how it feels. He's transparent, and Ferry will later sing "I wear >my heart on my sleeve." That's a great Gallagher/Lyle song. >I know how it feels. Once I had a great unrequited love, or so I thought >it was. Then one day, out of the blue, my own fireside anticipation came >true, and in a way far sweeter and stronger than I had dared imagine >except deep in the recesses of my heart. I know it could happen to me, >because it did happen to me. I hope you all get to say it happened to you >as well. I went through the same thing, but I did not happend to me with that person. My love came pretty much out the blue when I left my ivory tower. Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 17:07:34 +0200 From: Edwin van der Ende Subject: [AVALON] Re-make poll standings Hi there, The current standing for the Re-make/Re-model poll are as follows: What should be Re-make's next project ? 1.) Record a studio demo cd 3 14% 2.) Record a live demo cd 6 27% 3.) Add movie clips to the website 1 5% 4.) Add other songs to their shows 1 5% 5.) Play live abroad 11 50% Please feel free to go to the site (www.remakeremodel.com) and vote yourself at the multimedia section, then poll. Thanx in advance and to thanx too all those who have voted already Greetz, Edwin ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 14:09:51 -0400 From: KB Porter Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: cruel Jonny wrote: "I was interested in your comment about the *farcical* nature of the lyric on Cruel. Do you think this is a deliberate effect, or just plain daft on Ferry's part?" "Cruel" credits are for Bryan Ferry and Dave Stewart, I have no idea as to which of the two, in any combination or alone, wrote the lyric. However if one assumes, for the sake of discussion, that Mr. Ferry solely penned the lyric for "Cruel", I must confess that I do not know if the 'farcical' nature of the lyric is intentional or deliberate. I will state that, in general, I do not believe any BF original penned lyrics were ever written as 'plain daft on Ferry's part'. He is too intelligent and self-conscious to frivolously, daftly, or crazily write lyrics meant for public consumption - he is the consummate artist perfectionist in his work, when time indulges. A particular facet of the production of "Frantic" might serve us as a clue in our quest. The 'raw, under produced' feeling of "Frantic" exists largely because it was the intended affect, despite the fact that very little of this album's material was 'new' since much of its content is comprised of covers and of material that had already been lovingly produced on "Alphaville" but remixed, redone or dressed down for "Frantic". So we see here that Mr. Ferry is quit capable of releasing work that isn't perfectly polished compared to, for example, "Mamouna", a work that is meticulously polished. - We see that Ferry is self-disciplined to the point of being able to override his personal tendency (obsession) toward time-consuming, perfected work (I also believe that is the sole reason why Roxy Music's early years was a prolific time for BF). Thereby, I submit that Mr. Ferry possesses and selectively uses his ability to heighten or suppress qualities that we may perceive him to possess. This in turn brings us back to the query; is farce the intended, deliberate effect of BF's lyrics. I think any plausible answers (guesses) reside along a continuum that is dynamic and variable over time, subject matter, the general ambiance within BF's lifestyle as well as his emotional flora and fauna at the time of penmanship. This continuum encompasses the possibilities from 'he is consciously oblivious to the subtleties of his lyrics at the time of authoring, yet his subconscious is very actively guiding the process' to 'he is extremely aware of creating multiple entendres during the writing phase - he lithely engineers lyrics that hint at various suggestions, the personal amusement he derives from producing lyrics that are meaningful to him but obscured for others (because the words and phasing he employs is ambiguous) heightens his delight because he realizes the listener's tendency to decipher lyrics will prevail: Thus, he is playing with us while entertaining himself throughout the creation process' (And I believe this situation may only exist outside of 'writer's block', any stoppage blocks the flow.). So I believe, you partially answered the question at hand when you wrote: "Narcissism to the point of farce" as I translate that phrase to adequately describe the heightened awareness area within the proposed continuum. "Narcissism to the point of farce". - If Mr. Ferry is consciously aware of the seemingly ambiguous yet convoluted lyrics he writes, then I think he has demonstrated the ability to use his inherent genius to write tremendously interesting and universal content - akin, in a way, to Einstein's mastering, harnessing his genius in a significantly productive manner. Persons such as Einstein, however, are rare - he existed in every day life while operating at this gifted level. Most genius is fleeting for the average individual and not readily noticed by the self. For the individuals who are more successful at tapping into their native genius, they may recognize the affect but are either inadequately focused or are unable to channel their native genius into operating with significant, consistent, productive results. I believe Mr. Ferry falls into this quasi-aware category. So, Yes, I think he, on occasion, has written some very 'narcissistic to the point of farce lyrics! [But I am more inclined to attribute the farcical nature of the lyrics to "Cruel" as being attributable to lyrics that are absurd - "Nobody cares, nobody but me. James Bond, Jackie O, Johnny Rae and Garbo - tell me what I want to hear, tell me what I want to know". And farcical in nature to the insincerity of the lyrics "She (He) does the lonely heart, it's tearing me apart" (coupled with a Native American ceremonial dance beat, to boot!). - I don't think he cares - do you?] Comments and observations are welcomed. Slings and arrows must be left outside. Best wishes, KBP ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 23:27:27 +0100 (BST) From: lorelei@zoom.co.uk Subject: [AVALON] Me again Hello. I don't know if any of you remember me, but I was the ridiculously young person who used to post a couple of years ago. Anyway, I've just been to the Bournemouth gig, and it was great, but I was just wondering if any of you were there. I did notice a group of fans in the front row of block B (just in front of me) who looked as if they could have been Avalonians. I might be wrong though. Bye, Laura Shadbolt Get your own zoom email - click here - http://www.zoom.co.uk/ ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 19:04:08 -0400 From: "Maggie Curran" Subject: [AVALON] London Evening Standard Review 08/10/02 Have just received the paper and here is the review: Ferry A Slave To Self-Love by John Aizlewood, Evening Standard 08-10-02 "GIG REVIEW: Bryan Ferry at the Royal Albert Hall, 7/10/02 Still the artch-Naracissus, Bryan Ferry began alone on stage behind his piano and continued as if he were brimming with ideas, adding a single musician for each of the next five songs, including an ice-cold run through Bob Dylan's Don't Think Twice It's Alright. Afterwards, a curious Smoke Gets In Your Eyes, where he affected a lisp, the remainder of the 11-piece band joined him and Ferry promptly ran out of ideas. As befits a man whose recent Frantic album was the first he'd earned a writing credit on for 15 years, his essential problem is sloth. He simply can't be bothered to engage. As if the whole evening were built around Ferry not being forced to sweat, he refused to project and to invest emotionally in his work. Certainly those looking for clues to Ferry's inner turmoil regarding his recent marital difficulties will have left unrewarded, as his performance was more hibernation than catharsis. His movements were non-commital, robotic bobbing. He limited his between-song banter to unintelligible mutterings. And, as if bored by the burden of having to perform for 90 minutes, he wandered off stage to allow the band to indulge themselves in a plodding instrumental, returning only with a change in suit. So far, so insulting. While he clearly takes himself and his personal grooming very seriously, little last night indicated that he feels the same about his art. Aside from his stage presence and a show that, despite the excellent band (including superlative backing vocalist Sarah Brown), seemed small and cowed, Ferry, somehow is hardly a lost cause. However sloppily Ferry presented it, the Frantic material, especially the haunted Fool For Love, was mostly splendid. The sound and lighting were woefully prosiac, but his vocals remain idiosyncratically endearing and hi choice of song rarely faltered. He cherry picked both his ever- stuttering solo career - a clattering Boys & Girls - and a Roxy Music, reprising Do The Strand 29 years later. He even managed the whistling segment in Jealous Guy without losing dignity, although he should never again be allowed near a mouth organ. The solitary encore for a rather dispirited crowd encapsulated Ferry's wobbles. A dreadful assault on Shame Shame Shame, once a soul standard, was preceded by a glorious reaffirmation of Let's Stick Together. Oddly, both were covered on the same Ferry album in 1976. Odder still was how one man could give so little." _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 20:31:43 -0400 From: "M" Subject: [AVALON] London ramblings I'm finally back home in the US. It was a whirlwind of a trip - seeing The Divine Comedy (and Ben Folds) twice at SBE - it was worth flying over earlier for it, doing serious damage on my credit cards (two cards were stopped - ack!), seeing Saint Etienne at RFH and dancing onstage next to Sarah Cracknell during the last song (there were other fans onstage so not just me), hiking in the South Downs, seeing a football match (as some of you know, Watford v. Grimbsy - thank goodness Watford won or I would have dealt with a grumpy friend - overall it was not an exciting match as if I really needed to state that), finally went to The Social... And of course, Bryan! The shows were great and I'm very glad I went altho' my bank account won't be very happy. My friend who was one of my accessories for the two evenings, as well as being my porter, took a fantastic pic of a certain region of Bryan. He was standing directly in front of us so why not. Dave Martin saw some of the pics being taken the second night. My kind of pics. Anyway..... It was great to see some of you again and meet more of you! I won't try listing everyone as I am bound to forget people. I will say.... Bad bad bad Martino, I won't talk to you for... a day or two. You will make it up to me. Ed, I went shopping at Portobello this weekend and I found a fourth dress for the North American shows so no, I will not be going naked to one show. Big thanks to Tracy! JO'B, Jocelyn, and Caroline - missed you at the shows! Look forward to seeing some of you at a few of the North American shows. Must finish wardrobe planning. It never ends. Off to stare at my suitcases and wonder when I will unpack..... M ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ There was a young woman called M Who sat on Viggo Mortensen * He said, "Well M, my dear!" "Your waist brings such cheer" "I'll not look at another again!" ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ * A real-life event! ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V7 #340 **************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest