From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V7 #331 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Saturday, October 5 2002 Volume 07 : Number 331 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [AVALON] More songs added [philipcadams@lineone.net] [AVALON] The Filthy Lucre Tour ["tmoq" ] RE: [AVALON] Birmingham, Drink. ["Cassidy, Chris J (CPS)" ] RE: [AVALON] The Filthy Lucre Tour ["Cassidy, Chris J (CPS)" ] Re: [AVALON] The Filthy Lucre Tour [Aleks Kocan ] RE: [AVALON] The Filthy Lucre Tour Pt2 [Aleks Kocan ] [AVALON] Re: How are you ["David Firmin" ] [AVALON] before the panic sets in [Colleen Matan ] RE: [AVALON] The Filthy Lucre Tour ["Cassidy, Chris J (CPS)" ] Re: [AVALON] More songs added [OBrienFerry@aol.com] [AVALON] Non-Ferry pics from Amsterdam online [Edwin van der Ende ] Re: [AVALON] The Filthy Lucre Tour ["Judy Kaufman" ] Re: [AVALON] One way Love [Colleen Matan ] [AVALON] Some virus info ["Judy Kaufman" ] Re: [AVALON] DVD delays ["Keith Shockley" ] Re: [AVALON] panic? what panic? ["mark shanahan" "More than this" and "Shame, shame, shame" - sounds >like good additions. > >Looking at the set-lists on vivaroxymusic, looks like >"The Only Face" and "Just Like You" were dropped. > >Dropping "The Only Face" I can live with, but no "Just >Like You" is a tragedy....they must bring that one >back (along with "Hiroshmia" and "Sign Of The Times")! > >Aleks ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 06:47:33 -0400 From: "tmoq" Subject: [AVALON] The Filthy Lucre Tour - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 4:14 AM Subject: Re: [AVALON] More songs added > Can we have a chorus to drop most of the songs from the last half hour. > > Philip It`s obvious that Ferry is completely clueless as to what this tour is about. He has a new album out yet performs very little from it. In fact he seems stand-offish from it, like he`s unable bring himself to trust it to carry the tour. Most of this tour has been a sort of "greatest hits" rehash yet he can`t seem to settle on a set list to even make it interesting. With such a remarkable catalog of material at his disposal the best he can come up with is a lame dog like Shame Shame Shame? I have never agreed with the critics/detractors who insist that such reunions/tours by "classic bands/artist" are little more than a filthy lucre tour, however..... Gene...still holding out for "Just Another High." ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 11:56:24 +0100 From: "Cassidy, Chris J (CPS)" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Birmingham, Drink. The Sports Bar on Broad St has been recommended, though I'm not sure exactly where it is. Apparently there's loads of screens so wherever you sit you'll get a good view. Drinks are also reasonably priced I'm told. Wherever it is, it'll be pretty close to the NIA. See you later - hope you win. Easy 3 points for the Baggies of course at the Toon. Chris > -----Original Message----- > From: Stevesiren@aol.com [SMTP:Stevesiren@aol.com] > Sent: 04 October 2002 00:18 > To: avalon@smoe.org > Subject: [AVALON] Birmingham, Drink. > > Anyone know of anywhere to go for a pre-gig drink in Birmingham on Sat.? > Preferably showing Sky Sports.......... > Steve > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > _ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html > US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 12:23:40 +0100 From: "Cassidy, Chris J (CPS)" Subject: RE: [AVALON] The Filthy Lucre Tour There's usually a reason for everything, though perhaps like most I'm struggling too with the set-list(s) of this so-called Frantic tour. In a current set of 23, personally I'd have liked to have seen him build the set solely around 5/6 his own Frantic compositions; Cruel Goddess or NLM Fool for Love Hiroshima San Simeon I thought Shame,shame, shame really. Regards Chris > -----Original Message----- > From: tmoq [SMTP:tmoq@pipeline.com] > Sent: 04 October 2002 11:48 > To: avalon@smoe.org > Subject: [AVALON] The Filthy Lucre Tour > > > >It`s obvious that Ferry is completely clueless as to what this tour is > >about. He has a new album out yet performs very little from it. In fact > he > >seems stand-offish from it, like he`s unable bring himself to trust it to > >carry the tour. > >Most of this tour has been a sort of "greatest hits" rehash yet he can`t > >seem to settle on a set list to even make it interesting. With such a > >remarkable catalog of material at his disposal the best he can come up > with > >is a lame dog like Shame Shame Shame? > >I have never agreed with the critics/detractors who insist that such > >reunions/tours by "classic bands/artist" are little more than a filthy > lucre > >tour, however..... > > > Gene...still holding out for "Just Another High." > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > _ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html > US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 07:29:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Colleen Matan Subject: RE: [AVALON] The Filthy Lucre Tour On Fri, 4 Oct 2002, Cassidy, Chris J (CPS) wrote: > There's usually a reason for everything, though perhaps like most I'm > struggling too with the set-list(s) of this so-called Frantic tour. In > a current set of 23, personally I'd have liked to have seen him build > the set solely around 5/6 his own Frantic compositions; > > Cruel > Goddess or NLM > Fool for Love > Hiroshima > San Simeon > I thought > > Shame,shame, shame really. Whereas I'd much rather hear "Shame, Shame, Shame" than Hiroshima or San Simeon. One man's meat is another man's poison. Colleen ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 12:54:47 +0100 From: "Cassidy, Chris J (CPS)" Subject: RE: [AVALON] The Filthy Lucre Tour Really? That's intriguing! I wouldn't mind Shame, Shame, Shame for LST or LITD, but Hiroshima or San Simeon - never!!!! Regards Chris > -----Original Message----- > From: Colleen Matan [SMTP:cjem@his.com] > Sent: 04 October 2002 12:29 > To: avalon@smoe.org > Subject: RE: [AVALON] The Filthy Lucre Tour > > On Fri, 4 Oct 2002, Cassidy, Chris J (CPS) wrote: > > ...... personally I'd have liked to have seen him build > > the set solely around 5/6 his own Frantic compositions; > > > > Cruel > > Goddess or NLM > > Fool for Love > > Hiroshima > > San Simeon > > I thought > > > > Shame,shame, shame really. > > Whereas I'd much rather hear "Shame, Shame, Shame" than Hiroshima or San > Simeon. > > One man's meat is another man's poison. > > Colleen > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > _ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html > US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 15:41:22 +0100 (BST) From: martinstockman@btinternet.com Subject: RE: [AVALON] The Filthy Lucre Tour I think dear fellow Avalonions are missing the point here. I find the daily news of rejigged set lists both exciting and a breath of fresh air. On most tours the track listing on the first show has been nigh identical to that played 6 months later in some draughty auditorium. What we're witnessing here is fairly unique in this processed pop era : to wit, an evolving tour, where the travelling musicians appear to spend there days in far-off cities rehearsing new material. For better and for worse. As each new song emerges on the good Jock O'Brien's astonishingly brilliant site I at once tingle in anticipation of witnessing a long lost friend, and simultaneously dread the missing of a potentially lost number. Hiroshima, mon amour indeed. Shame Shame Shame is a wonderful thrash, More Than This possibly his most awesome creation, Boys and Girls .. ah still my beating heart. Too much carping. This is living musicianship from a vibrant, joyful band. We may never see its like again. Trust the Maestro. He hasn't let us down yet .. Martineaux > from: "Cassidy, Chris J (CPS)" > date: Fri, 04 Oct 2002 12:54:47 > to: avalon@smoe.org > subject: RE: [AVALON] The Filthy Lucre Tour > > Really? That's intriguing! > > I wouldn't mind Shame, Shame, Shame for LST or LITD, but Hiroshima or San > Simeon - never!!!! > > Regards > > Chris > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Colleen Matan [SMTP:cjem@his.com] > > Sent: 04 October 2002 12:29 > > To: avalon@smoe.org > > Subject: RE: [AVALON] The Filthy Lucre Tour > > > > On Fri, 4 Oct 2002, Cassidy, Chris J (CPS) wrote: > > > > ...... personally I'd have liked to have seen him build > > > the set solely around 5/6 his own Frantic compositions; > > > > > > Cruel > > > Goddess or NLM > > > Fool for Love > > > Hiroshima > > > San Simeon > > > I thought > > > > > > Shame,shame, shame really. > > > > Whereas I'd much rather hear "Shame, Shame, Shame" than Hiroshima or San > > Simeon. > > > > One man's meat is another man's poison. > > > > Colleen > > > > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > > _ > > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > > Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html > > US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html > US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 10:56:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Colleen Matan Subject: RE: [AVALON] The Filthy Lucre Tour On Fri, 4 Oct 2002 martinstockman@btinternet.com wrote: > I think dear fellow Avalonions are missing the point here. I find the > daily news of rejigged set lists both exciting and a breath of fresh > air. On most tours the track listing on the first show has been nigh I do too, actually. But certainly a cat may look at a king, no? Colleen ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 07:57:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Aleks Kocan Subject: Re: [AVALON] The Filthy Lucre Tour Well Said Gene I guess it's back to the old argument of having something in there to please everyone, which includes the people who turn up mainly wanting him to play the well known tunes. The set-list is probably balanced from their point of view. I really do wish that either he or someone in his organisation would have the guts to just say "Right, we'll play the whole of the new album with some lesser known tracks and a few hits". Surely he can't enjoy trawling out "Jealous Guy" "Lets Stick Together" etc.. every night (or maybe he does?) Maybe it's down to marketing...throw in some songs from the new album, a load of well known old songs and then some of the people going to the concerts may consider buying Frantic? One way or the other it seems pot luck as to whether or not you're lucky enough to go to a gig where he plays "Just Like You" or whatever. Aleks - --- tmoq wrote: > Most of this tour has been a sort of "greatest hits" > rehash yet he can`t > seem to settle on a set list to even make it > interesting. > > Gene... New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 08:08:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Aleks Kocan Subject: RE: [AVALON] The Filthy Lucre Tour Pt2 The re-jigged set-lists are exciting from a voyeur point of view, seeing what's in and what's out. On the other hand it's a bit crappy if the gig that you attend contains a "weaker" set-list. There is still quite an element of processed pop though with the inclusion of the crowd pleasing "golden oldies" such as Jealous Guy etc.. My guess is that the set-list will remain pretty rigid for the UK leg of the tour. Aleks - --- martinstockman@btinternet.com wrote: > I think dear fellow Avalonions are missing the point > here. I find the daily news of rejigged set lists > both exciting and a breath of fresh air. On most > tours the track listing on the first show has been > nigh identical to that played 6 months later in some > draughty auditorium. What we're witnessing here is > fairly unique in this processed pop era New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 08:37:17 -0700 From: "David Firmin" Subject: [AVALON] Re: How are you I just got this virus. My machine detected it. I want to warn others. ----- Original Message ----- From: avalon To: eddieriff@yahoo.com Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 8:32 AM Subject: How are you ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 11:43:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Colleen Matan Subject: [AVALON] before the panic sets in The Avalon list itself cannot send you a virus. Whatever virus it was (David's message didn't include any information about it), it may be one which takes addresses from folks' address book and uses them as the apparent senders. This is not to say that someone one this list isn't infected--I get many many bounces every day related to viruses that are sent to me or to the list in this way--but that the list cannot be infected itself. To repeat: the Avalon list cannot send a virus. Colleen ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 17:41:12 +0100 From: "Cassidy, Chris J (CPS)" Subject: RE: [AVALON] The Filthy Lucre Tour Martin, I think you may have missed the original point which related to a post from Gene about the Frantic tour not including much material from Frantic. The point you make is an entirely different but nonetheless enlightening one. What I said was that personally I would have liked to have seen the set contain a good smattering of his 'new' self-penned compositions from Frantic, which to me in any case are more interesting by virtue of their origin and certainly in relation to Frantic are of an unquestionably higher standard than the covers. I am totally on the bus with you about an evolving freshness being brought to the set, though for the majority who will only attend a single show, this will be of little relevance. It will no doubt however do the band and those of us who are serial attenders the world of good! Whatever the set on Saturday at the Birmingham NIA, I'm sure I'll not be disappointed. Chris > -----Original Message----- > From: martinstockman@btinternet.com [SMTP:martinstockman@btinternet.com] > Sent: 04 October 2002 15:41 > To: chris.cassidy@staffordshire.gov.uk; avalon@smoe.org > Subject: RE: [AVALON] The Filthy Lucre Tour > > > I think dear fellow Avalonions are missing the point here. I find the > daily news of rejigged set lists both exciting and a breath of fresh air. > On most tours the track listing on the first show has been nigh identical > to that played 6 months later in some draughty auditorium. What we're > witnessing here is fairly unique in this processed pop era : to wit, an > evolving tour, where the travelling musicians appear to spend there days > in far-off cities rehearsing new material. For better and for worse. As > each new song emerges on the good Jock O'Brien's astonishingly brilliant > site I at once tingle in anticipation of witnessing a long lost friend, > and simultaneously dread the missing of a potentially lost number. > Hiroshima, mon amour indeed. Shame Shame Shame is a wonderful thrash, More > Than This possibly his most awesome creation, Boys and Girls .. ah still > my beating heart. > > Too much carping. This is living musicianship from a vibrant, joyful band. > We may never see its like again. Trust the Maestro. He hasn't let us down > yet .. > > Martineaux ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2002 11:45:29 -0500 From: "Rod LeCloux" Subject: [AVALON] Fwd: Munchin 2002 Weed question Re-request!! Ok, for us techno/documentors ect. Is the Ferry-Munchin(Munich) show from 8/2002 sourced from a web radio broadcast? What the heck was the kb rate and khz??? Was this an mp3 stream. Somebody on this list must have sourced it! Come on, we need to know if the trading community is being polluted:>) Rod (Green Bay) _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 18:37:23 +0200 From: "Han Snijders" Subject: Re: [AVALON] More songs added Can anyone confirm that more than this is played only by Bryan on the piano as a replacement for The only face. Han - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 10:14 AM Subject: Re: [AVALON] More songs added > Can we have a chorus to drop most of the songs from the last half hour. > > Philip > > > >"More than this" and "Shame, shame, shame" - sounds > >like good additions. > > > >Looking at the set-lists on vivaroxymusic, looks like > >"The Only Face" and "Just Like You" were dropped. > > > >Dropping "The Only Face" I can live with, but no "Just > >Like You" is a tragedy....they must bring that one > >back (along with "Hiroshmia" and "Sign Of The Times")! > > > >Aleks > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html > US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 15:27:13 EDT From: OBrienFerry@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] More songs added In a message dated 04/10/02 17:46:56 GMT Daylight Time, snijders.geest@hetnet.nl writes: > Can anyone confirm that more than this is played only by Bryan on the piano > as a replacement for The only face. > It sure was Han, a piano/vocal version of More Than This opened the Barcelona show. (BF at the piano) J.O'B. ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2002 21:47:56 +0200 From: Edwin van der Ende Subject: [AVALON] Non-Ferry pics from Amsterdam online Hi everybody, It's been a while but I've been damn busy with my new job so I didn't have much time to work on the pictures from Amsterdam. Right now I've put online a set of pictures of the other band members, so no Mr Ferry this time but only of those who also make his great show possible. Of course there's more to follow of Bryan at a later stage, but for now go to the Re-make/Re-model website (www.remakeremodel.com) and clcik on "Members", follow the link there to the new pictures. While you are there feel free to roam the bio's of Re-make's members, many of which have been updated with some pictures. And if you still have time after that, don't forget the crew :) Hope you will all enjoy all pictures ! greetz, Edwin Webmaster/Photographer Re-make/Re-model www.remakeremodel.com ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 16:44:16 EDT From: OBrienFerry@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] The Filthy Lucre Tour/Set Lists I am with Martin on this one, I thought the general opinion/complaint during the summer was how similar each set was night after night. I found at the 2 Paris shows that I went to recently that I was still wondering what surprises I would hear during the set. The only time I felt like that at the 20+ shows I have been at the last 2 years were in Dublin at the 1st Roxy show and in Denmark at the first Frantic tour show. There seems to an air of anticipation at each show wondering if your favourite song that was played earlier in the tour will return and what new surprise will we get. I will be disappointed if Just Like You doesn't return for any of the remaining show that I go to but then you win some you lose some. I was fortunate to have heard Hiroshima in Paris but that seems to have been dropped but then it might return, that's the exciting part about this tour. The Roxy tour last year had 20 songs max played at any one gig and a total of only 22 songs were played throughout the 51 shows which made the set list very predictable. Maybe I am speaking from the perspective of someone with 'multigigitis' but a varying set list I think adds to it all. Not only are the songs changing a lot but the arrangements of some of the older material like Smoke Gets In Your Eyes More Than This have had a new approach. The fresh way to hear these songs and more importantly, fresh way to perform these songs must make it more interesting for both the audience and musicians. The Frantic album has been covered no less than most previous albums. You can see from the set lists I have of each show (link below) that 10 of the 13 songs on Frantic have been performed at least once. The Autumn shows have had around 6 'Frantic' songs from a 20 song set. Since Bryan/Roxy has had a sizeable repertoire to choose from, the album being toured had always been around 30% of the set, Frantic seems to be no different. The set lists to all the previous tours are at the link below for tours. Despite Avalon being Roxy's most commercial album to date, the Avalon tour only had 4 songs + Tara as a regular part of the 17 song set. These statistics below show what percentages of songs from the current album being toured were played on that tour, granted some of the Frantic songs like Goodnight Irene & One Way Love were only played once or twice. Manifesto 60% Flesh + Blood 70% Avalon 50% Boys And Girls 60% Bete Noire 50% Taxi 10% Mamouna 40% As Time Goes By 70% Frantic 70% As much as I don't need to hear Jealous Guy, Do The Strand, Love Is The Drug, Let's Stick Together, I can understand why he does these songs. Most of the people in the audience will be at the one and only Bryan Ferry show of their life and will expect to hear these songs and their ticket money is financing a sizeable part of the show. I have never seen for example The Rolling Stones and would like to if I got the chance. As it would be the one and only chance to see them, I would probably want to hear Satisfaction, Brown Sugar, Jumping Jack Flash etc but I am sure the Stones die-hards would feel the same way we do about Jealous Guy etc. It was always stated that the summer shows were a separate thing from the Frantic tour and that the Frantic tour proper would begin in the Autumn. The summer shows were a different thing all together and the set list was partly due to contractual constraints. A lot of the people who go to these shows are not necessarily a fan of the artists but familiar with their hits and go to the show as part of a local event in their area. I know that a lot of the people that went to the show in my area at Crathes Castle went to the Deacon Blue show the previous year and James Brown the year before that and no doubt will go to whoever next year at the same time, hence the 'Hits' clause in any contract they sign. My main complaint during the summer was that a lot of shows were too short for whatever reason, and many people felt short changed J.O'B. Set Lists http://vivaroxymusic.com/news_20020617a.shtml Previous Tours http://www.vivaroxymusic.com:8080/roxy/tour_list ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 22:48:47 +0200 From: "danyellow" Subject: [AVALON] panic? what panic? well i got some dirty stuff but my antivirus alert rang it was not from avalon but from shanahan direct to my e mail address ciao a tutti ragazzi hope u can enjoy the fall tour wherever U r danny ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 20:01:26 -0500 From: "Judy Kaufman" Subject: Re: [AVALON] The Filthy Lucre Tour From: martinstockman > Too much carping. This is living musicianship from a vibrant, joyful band. We may never see its like again. Trust the Maestro. > He hasn't let us down yet .. I absolutely agree. If I could only see him once anywhere, the setlist would be the last complaint I would have. Yes, I would even suffer through a show of nothing but songs from F&B and Avalon. I would be there to enjoy what he offers - not to complain about what I don't get. I hope all of those of you fortunate enough to see these shows are taking your recorders - in fact, take two so we don't get those *end of tape/mini-disc gaps*. Judy ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 21:21:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Colleen Matan Subject: Re: [AVALON] The Filthy Lucre Tour/Set Lists On Fri, 4 Oct 2002 OBrienFerry@aol.com wrote: > show. There seems to an air of anticipation at each show wondering if > your favourite song that was played earlier in the tour will return and > what new surprise will we get. I will be disappointed if Just Like You > doesn't return for any of the remaining show that I go to but then you > win some you lose some. I was fortunate to have heard Hiroshima in Paris > but that seems to have been dropped but then it might return, that's the > exciting part about this tour. All I can say is that if "One Way Love" doesn't appear during the Washington show, it's going to be ugly. Even if it's just for those around me (and my CD player). Colleen ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 20:42:40 -0400 From: "Pete Seely" Subject: [AVALON] One way Love If One way Love DOES appear in Chicago, it's going to get ugly. It's my least favorite track from Frantic. Pete S. NP - Benny Goodman - A S-m-o-o-t-h One - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colleen Matan" To: Sent: Friday, October 04, 2002 9:21 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] The Filthy Lucre Tour/Set Lists > On Fri, 4 Oct 2002 OBrienFerry@aol.com wrote: > > > show. There seems to an air of anticipation at each show wondering if > > your favourite song that was played earlier in the tour will return and > > what new surprise will we get. I will be disappointed if Just Like You > > doesn't return for any of the remaining show that I go to but then you > > win some you lose some. I was fortunate to have heard Hiroshima in Paris > > but that seems to have been dropped but then it might return, that's the > > exciting part about this tour. > > All I can say is that if "One Way Love" doesn't appear during the > Washington show, it's going to be ugly. Even if it's just for those > around me (and my CD player). > > Colleen > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html > US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 21:39:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Colleen Matan Subject: Re: [AVALON] One way Love On Fri, 4 Oct 2002, Pete Seely wrote: > If One way Love DOES appear in Chicago, it's going to get ugly. It's my > least favorite track from Frantic. Who let these people in here? ;-) Colleen ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 20:39:32 -0500 From: "Judy Kaufman" Subject: [AVALON] Some virus info Hello all, I also received an infected e-mail - not from Avalon, but from an Avalonian. The virus I received is W32.Klez.H Please update your anti-virus software and it's a good idea to get all the older updates if you don't already have them. Uninfected, Judy ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 22:40:27 -0400 From: "Keith Shockley" Subject: Re: [AVALON] DVD delays - ----- Original Message ----- From: Duarte Mendonca To: Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2002 9:18 AM Subject: [AVALON] DVD delays I received an email today from amazon.com telling me that Live at The Apollo was shipped Oct. 2. Keith NP: Please Forgive Me / David Gray > I also pre-ordered from Amazon (USA), it is listed as shipping on the 30th, > with delivery expected on the 4th or 5th. Can't wait! > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html > US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 22:42:15 -0700 From: "mark shanahan" Subject: Re: [AVALON] panic? what panic? danny, you're not getting my porno collection. i spare what i can via e-mail, but you promised never to say anything. il sole italiano le ha cotto il cervello?? ;^) actually, i do a virus scan daily and also updates. as far as i know, i'm virus-free. as for lascivious content, well ... re: the filthy lucre tour discussion - i have to say i'm with martin (yikes!) and j.o.b. on this too. i mean - i'll _always_ complain about the setlist, but it truly is like a door (window, whatever) has been opened in the ferry camp. something has happened there - to be sure. change is good in this context, i think. no, maybe you won't get 'hiroshima' or 'just like you' every night ... or on YOUR concert night, but - i have to say - ferry's *almost* got us on our tiptoes. that is, you *don't* know what to expect. this is what music, not just rock-n-roll/pop should be about, in terms of performance (IMO). can everyone remember their very first concert? i don't mean to start reminiscences on _that_ topic, but can you remember how you *felt*? well, given some of the BF tours in recent memory, this [changing setlist] is virtually breaking news to my mind. OK, so you still KNOW you're going to hear LITD, JG, DTS, etc. - but there's a fair chunk of stuff moving around. it's a vibrancy we've not seen from ferry live in quite a while, if ever. what do i know - i only saw him for the first time in '94. and i will say - he only played four (4) songs from 'mamouna' then ... to give you some idea. anyway ... i'll now take bids on my porno collection - before it goes on ebay ... peaces/ms _______________________________________________________________ Get the FREE email that has everyone talking at http://www.mail2world.com <-----Original Message-----> >From: danyellow > >well i got some dirty stuff but my antivirus alert rang >it was not from avalon but from shanahan direct to my >e mail address ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V7 #331 **************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest