From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V7 #304 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Thursday, September 12 2002 Volume 07 : Number 304 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [AVALON] Calling all Geordie Boys (and Girls) [KWil632057@aol.com] [AVALON] S.O.T.W. ?? [KWil632057@aol.com] [AVALON] Bryan Ferry Tour CD's ["Bryan S Richards" ] [AVALON] Ferry v Graham Norton & spiders [EddieLeyland@aol.com] [AVALON] Hello! again ["Dave Taylor" ] Re: [AVALON] Ferry v Graham Norton & spiders ["Paula Brown" ] Re: [AVALON] Bryan on TV ["Caroline Torterat" ] Re: [AVALON] The Next Sound You Hear ... ["Mark Yates" ] [AVALON] Another four leaf clover? ["The Siren" ] [AVALON] Lost TOTP stuff ["The Siren" ] [AVALON] A sell out or what! Who's kidding who? [EddieLeyland@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] Hello! again ["Mark Yates" ] Re: [AVALON] Ferry V Bowie or Frantic V Heathen ["Paula Brown" Subject: [AVALON] Bryan Ferry Tour CD's Hi Guys, Sorry to be a nuisance. I've been off line for a few months (wonderful pieces of technology these PC's!) and was hoping one of you might be able to provide a list of recordings of this last tour? Plus availability. Many thanks, Bryan ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 12:20:11 +0100 From: "Bryan S Richards" Subject: [AVALON] NewOrderOnline.com No mention of IEDHAH or I Feel Love as advertised in Q. http://www.neworderonline.com/currentnews.asp#news_id=3D560 [demime 0.97c removed an attachment of type application/octet-stream which had a name of NewOrderOnline.com.url] ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 13:53:06 +0100 From: "Cassidy, Chris J (CPS)" Subject: RE: [AVALON] JNHP/Fool for Love - what a relief Or perhaps Love me Madly Again, This Island Earth and the Chosen One? The permutations are endless..... and impossible to please everyone. Always thought Boys and Girls was a gem and a welcome inclusion. Regards Chris > -----Original Message----- > From: terrypaulrigz8c [SMTP:terrypaulrigz8c@supanet.com] > Sent: 11 September 2002 16:19 > To: avalon > Subject: Re: [AVALON] JNHP/Fool for Love - what a relief > > Here, Here, > Now if we just lose JG, LITD & DTS. Replace them with The 'In' Crowd, A > Hard > Rain & This is Tomorrow, WOW what a show that would be. > > Terry (wishful thinking) "O" > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > _ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html > US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 15:15:39 +0200 From: "S Thomsen" Subject: [AVALON] Danish review... http://musik.jubii.dk/visnyhed.asp?id=105557 Well, not much new. "The faubolus singer..", "Very engaged..." , "Sublime experience.." and so on. Really a nice review. But nothing new under the sun. Stefanzanera, Denmark And a link to recent setlists: http://www.home.ix.netcom.com/~dfirmin/ ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 10:32:09 EDT From: EddieLeyland@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Ferry v Graham Norton & spiders Who would win this one I wonder, apparently Bryan might well beat Graham Norton, however according to Jerry Hall, he is absolutely terrified of spiders. So once again the question, who would win? The information contained in this message may be confidential and is intended for the addressee only. Any unauthorised use, dissemination of the information, or copying of this message is prohibited. If you are not the addressee, please notify the sender immediatly by return e-mail and delete this message. Although this e-mail and any attachments are believed to be free of any virus, or other defect which might affect any computer or system into which they are received and opened, it is the responsibility of the recipient to ensure that they are virus free and no responsibility is accepted by Logical Finance Ltd for any loss or damage from receipt or use thereof. REGISTERED ADDRESS: LOGICAL FINANCE LTD, THE NEW BARN, 37 MOORSIDE DRIVE, PENWORTHAM, PRESTON,PR1 OXF. TELEPHONE 01772 748343 / 01695 624227. MEMBER OF THE BURNS ANDERSON INDEPEDANT NETWORK PLC WHICH IS AUTHORISED BY THE FINANCIAL SERVICES AUTHORITY. ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 15:33:58 +0100 From: "Dave Taylor" Subject: [AVALON] Hello! again So, despite everything, it could still be nothing more than a publicity stunt....... I'm sure all will be revealed in the fullness of time. Meanwhile, IMHO, what Mr. Ferry gets up to in his "private" life is his business - and I for one will not be passing any opinions or judgements on him/his wife/his family. Apparently some Avalonians consider themselves to be personally involved with the Ferry family ! Me? I just like the music. Dave. NP - Truant. - ----- Original Message ----- From: Jane Fraser To: Avalon Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 11:52 AM Subject: [AVALON] Hello! again > Bryan and Katie get three pages in the latest (September 17) issue of Hello! > > Same pics and not much new apart from a statement from his PR agency in > London vehemently denying everything. > > Jane > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html > US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 09:37:02 -0500 From: "Paula Brown" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Ferry v Graham Norton & spiders >Who would win this one I wonder, apparently Bryan might well beat Graham Norton, however according to Jerry Hall, he is absolutely terrified of spiders. So once again the question, who would win?> Thank you for handing over the weapon. I have a very impressive large colorful spider just outside my back door building the most wondrous web connecting my house with my honeysuckle. I would be happy to loan it to Ferry to defeat the foe. Paula ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 16:40:17 +0200 From: f2hb@wanadoo.nl (2HB) Subject: [AVALON] Radio recording Amsterdam Does one of you Dutch ppl on this list know which Dutch radiostation recorded the event or part of it? If so, when will it be aired? 2HB ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 15:36:01 +0100 From: "Fiske, Jocelyn" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Calling all Geordie Boys (and Girls) > If there are any Geordies on the list who have heard Mr Ferry speaking in their mother tongue, I've oft heard the Geordie Bard utter "me fadge is ower femmer" but that happens at his age. And you can never get to the bottom of your pint of Broon without him declaring "divvint drop yur doddle on the proggy mat" >Has anybody on the list ever heard Bryan speak in a Geordie accent? He cannot disguise the accent when he talks "let me tell yur sumthin'" at the beginning of My Only Love >Wayie, you kids stop taking the piss out of me street urchin hat. That's not a flat cap he's wearing, it's a stotty cake Cushie Butterfield ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 11:20:48 EDT From: DEAGLERR@aol.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] Calling all Geordie Boys (and Girls) Dang! You-all Eng-lish boys (n' gals) shore do talk funny. RE-gards, R Deagle ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 10:34:05 -0500 From: "Paula Brown" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Calling all Geordie Boys (and Girls) No sh*t! P - ----- Original Message ----- From: DEAGLERR@aol.com Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 10:25 AM To: Jocelyn.Fiske@greyeu.com; avalon@smoe.org Subject: Re: [AVALON] Calling all Geordie Boys (and Girls) Dang! You-all Eng-lish boys (n' gals) shore do talk funny. RE-gards, R Deagle ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 11:53:21 EDT From: OBrienFerry@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Ferry's Geordie Twang Ferry's Geordie accent comes out most when he sings the line "I know it sounds crazy" on 'Just Like You' I have an interview on cassette somewhere were Bryan is being interviewed on Radio 1, I think it was around the time of Avalon. Some fan letters were read out to him and one came from a Newcastle girl (maybe it was oor ain Ms Fiske) asking about his roots and his accent and he proceeded to talk in fluent Geordie. Yous wans in Englin huv a funny way a talkin J.O'B. ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 17:23:11 +0100 From: "Fiske, Jocelyn" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Ferry's Geordie Twang >...he proceeded to talk in fluent Geordie. I think I've said this before, but if he hears a Geordie accent he does get more Geordie when he replies - either that or he's been on the Ex* again. It's a point of mutual recognition - bit like dogs sniffing each others dog ends. But put the untrained ear in between TGPT and Ferry and I know which one my money's on you all spotting as broad Geordie, like tha naas. Jocelyn *Local beer (just how much more cultural can this list get?) ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 18:12:09 +0100 From: "Mark Yates" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Ferry V Bowie or Frantic V Heathen "But Eddie!!! David always has the better songs" That isn't to say that I don't reckon Frantic, I think its a great album, "Still think it is his best solo album" But the comparison between Bowie and Ferry never works, its unfair to compare anyone with Bowie, he's such an original, A "one- off" who has given all of us great pleasure through his music and lyrics for many years. and lets hope for many more. Mark - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 8:02 AM Subject: [AVALON] Ferry V Bowie or Frantic V Heathen > Got to say I have followed The master, Mr Ferry for many years, I have also > been a keen Bowie Fan. Listening to both cd's; song for song, I actually > think Bowie has the best songs on this one. However I think I was swayed by > the terrible Goodnight Irene, which I hasten to add has been permanently > deleted, does any one agree. > > The information contained in this message may be confidential and is intended > for the addressee only. Any unauthorised use, dissemination of the > information, or copying of this message is prohibited. If you are not the > addressee, please notify the sender immediatly by return e-mail and delete > this message. Although this e-mail and any attachments are believed to be > free of any virus, or other defect which might affect any computer or system > into which they are received and opened, it is the responsibility of the > recipient to ensure that they are virus free and no responsibility is > accepted by Logical Finance Ltd for any loss or damage from receipt or use > thereof. REGISTERED ADDRESS: LOGICAL FINANCE LTD, THE NEW BARN, 37 MOORSIDE > DRIVE, PENWORTHAM, PRESTON,PR1 OXF. TELEPHONE 01772 748343 / 01695 624227. > MEMBER OF THE BURNS ANDERSON INDEPEDANT NETWORK PLC WHICH IS AUTHORISED BY > THE FINANCIAL SERVICES AUTHORITY. > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html > US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 12:25:02 -0500 From: "Paula Brown" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Ferry V Bowie or Frantic V Heathen >But the comparison between Bowie and Ferry never works, its unfair to compare anyone with Bowie< I forget which smart friend of mine said it, but Bowie is from the head, Ferry is from the heart, and they're both incomparable. Paula ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 19:48:45 +0200 From: "Jimbo" Subject: [AVALON] Bryan on TV http://www.canaljimmy.fr/ Bryan on tv on 19 september. Can someone translate it, my french isreal bad ......... Love to have a copy if someone in France can tape it. jim. ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 19:57:46 +0200 From: "Caroline Torterat" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Bryan on TV Hi Jimbo and all! It's the same program , yet broadcasted on Canal Jimmy..and Mister Johnny Reecey has in hands my video of the marvelous "Frantic in Taroudant" program, of Bryan in Marocco..We need to wait for Johnny to recover before he will be able to prepare the stuff (Johnny, we are with you..;-)). I've asked Canal Jimmy yesterday if the Bruxelles gig of this week would be included in this special Bryan Ferry evening on the 19th of September..but they answered this morning "it was too late, but the Bruxelles gig will be broadcast soon after..." Good evening. Caroline ready for the Bowie evening on ARTE TV... - ----- Original Message ----- From: Jimbo To: Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 7:48 PM Subject: [AVALON] Bryan on TV > http://www.canaljimmy.fr/ > > Bryan on tv on 19 september. > Can someone translate it, my french isreal bad ......... > Love to have a copy if someone in France can tape it. > > jim. > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html > US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 21:27:46 +0100 From: "Mark Yates" Subject: Re: [AVALON] The Next Sound You Hear ... Of course its Pathetic, To diss-own Ferry for a few articles written by the "GUTTER PRESS" in order that they may fill a few pages in there hypocritical newspapers. None of us know the real reasons behind the break up and its none of our business, If we take a stand on the matter we are just pandering to the gossip merchants. and where does it end. I was listening to Elgar's Cello concerto, "But wait a minute" Elgar had a few affairs.........so I turned it off!! decided to listen to Louie Armstrong instead "But wait a minute" Louie had a lot of problems with his marriages.....so I turned it off...........got rid of all my Bowie........you know the problems he had with Angie. Can't listen to the Stones........even my beloved John Lennon has to hit the bin......... so its back to the Mowtown A bit of MARVIN.........wait a minute..........he had a few marital problems..so its off with Marvin........but look on the bright side At least I got CLIFF!!!! I've no idea who the member was who took such offence to Ferry's predicerment..........but I suggest she stop listening to the art form known as music, and buy herself the full collection of Disney Videos.....they all seem to have a happy ending and there is usually a Prince or two in them.... there again.......I wouldn't doubt that she probably already has them. Your dearsest devoted Mark. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aleks Kocan" To: Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 6:54 AM Subject: Re: [AVALON] The Next Sound You Hear ... > Apologies if I'm a bit late on this one, but here's my > "two penny's worth" > > I don't think it's "pathetic" for someone to have > their own views and principles. If their own views > about such things are so strong, why don't we respect > that? > > Even though I find Ferry's situation somewhat > "unusual", personally, it wouldn't stop me from > listening to his music. > > I'm not sure if Cliff Richard dates anyone (younger or > older than himself), one way or the other he's pretty > popular, not that I'm a huge fan myself > > Aleks > > --- KWil632057@aol.com wrote: > > The point is thus: To leave the list and give up an > > enjoyment of Bryan > > Ferry's MUSIC because he is seeing a girl younger > > than himself, is to put it > > bluntly, Pathetic. I hope the departed list member > > manages to successfully > > purchase the entire back catalouge of Cliff Richard > > albums as I believe he is > > the only singer in the business who does not date > > girls younger than > > himself... > Yahoo! News - Today's headlines > http://news.yahoo.com > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html > US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 21:35:26 +0100 From: "Mark Yates" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Ferry V Bowie or Frantic V Heathen I like that one Paula..........I shall use it. But when Bowie sings "Wild is the wind"...or........"Win"..Well..........what more can i say. Mark. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paula Brown" To: "Mark Yates" ; Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 6:25 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Ferry V Bowie or Frantic V Heathen > >But the comparison between Bowie and Ferry never works, its unfair to > compare anyone with Bowie< > > I forget which smart friend of mine said it, but Bowie is from the head, Ferry > is from the heart, and they're both incomparable. > > Paula > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html > US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2002 22:09:40 +0100 From: "The Siren" Subject: [AVALON] Another four leaf clover? How do we apply some analytical "tests" and benchmark criteria to the Bryan meets nubile Lucy-clone phenomenon? For me, I do not know Bryan, will never know him, and will always rely on 5th hand data about him. I can't get inside his head -and don't want to too much either...unless it helps with enjoyment of the music - which it often does. I don't know if he's a villain or saint -or both or neither. I suspect the Bogus Man/Bete Noire lives inside him. This is how I am "judging" the situation: 1. Will it lead to some inspired new material? 2 Will it add energy to his music? 3 Will it mean more material coming out? 4 Does it mean that Love war will now be released? 5 Will it give rise to some amusing tabloid commentary? Re 1,3,4 -we'll have to wait and see Re 2 - I should hope so, since we are seeing more pep since the dopey Avalon/B&G phase in the likes of A-Ville and Frantic; also, dalliance with someone 64 years your junior should have some impact Re 5 - we already have a result...witness The Sun and the potty training copy Robert ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 21:36:44 +0100 From: "The Siren" Subject: [AVALON] Another four leaf clover? How do we apply some analytical "tests" and benchmark criteria to the Bryan meets nubile Lucy-clone phenomenon? For me, I do not know Bryan, will never know him, and will always rely on 5th hand data about him. I can't get inside his head -and don't want to too much either...unless it helps with enjoyment of the music - which it often does. I don't know if he's a villain or saint -or both or neither. I suspect the Bogus Man/Bete Noire lives inside him. This is how I am "judging" the situation: 1. Will it lead to some inspired new material? 2 Will it add energy to his music? 3 Will it mean more material coming out? 4 Does it mean that Love war will now be released? 5 Will it give rise to some amusing tabloid commentary? Re 1,3,4 -we'll have to wait and see Re 2 - I should hope so, since we are seeing more pep since the dopey Avalon/B&G phase in the likes of A-Ville and Frantic; also, dalliance with someone 64 years your junior should have some impact Re 5 - we already have a result...witness The Sun and the potty training copy Robert ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 21:44:14 +0100 From: "The Siren" Subject: [AVALON] Lost TOTP stuff Apologies if this is old news.... Old top of the tops archives - once thought lost - have been rediscovered. Incuded is a BF clip. On this site: http://www.bbc.co.uk/totp2/trivia/lost/index.shtml a short clip is included. Copyright issues means it is a n excerpt. My PC software does not enable me to view the file - can anyone view it? Anyone convert it to mpeg/avi etc ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 16:55:24 EDT From: EddieLeyland@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] A sell out or what! Who's kidding who? Like many of us out here in the real world, Mr Ferry used to be a working class lad, that's true, outside lavatory, tin bath etcetera. Polly lead the way, showed him how to behave, which knife, fork to use etc. Here's the question, did he sell out? Children go to Eaton, Bryan has elocution lessons, did he betray his working class roots, or did he outgrow his past? Would any body else do it? To pretend your something your not must be a massive strain, not just on yourself, but to everyone around you. Your thoughts, anyone. The information contained in this message may be confidential and is intended for the addressee only. Any unauthorised use, dissemination of the information, or copying of this message is prohibited. If you are not the addressee, please notify the sender immediatly by return e-mail and delete this message. Although this e-mail and any attachments are believed to be free of any virus, or other defect which might affect any computer or system into which they are received and opened, it is the responsibility of the recipient to ensure that they are virus free and no responsibility is accepted by Logical Finance Ltd for any loss or damage from receipt or use thereof. REGISTERED ADDRESS: LOGICAL FINANCE LTD, THE NEW BARN, 37 MOORSIDE DRIVE, PENWORTHAM, PRESTON,PR1 OXF. TELEPHONE 01772 748343 / 01695 624227. MEMBER OF THE BURNS ANDERSON INDEPEDANT NETWORK PLC WHICH IS AUTHORISED BY THE FINANCIAL SERVICES AUTHORITY. ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 21:55:19 +0100 From: "Mark Yates" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Hello! again Nicely put Dave. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Taylor" To: Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 3:33 PM Subject: [AVALON] Hello! again > So, despite everything, it could still be nothing more than a publicity > stunt....... > > I'm sure all will be revealed in the fullness of time. Meanwhile, IMHO, what > Mr. Ferry gets up to in his "private" life is his business - and I for one > will not be > passing any opinions or judgements on him/his wife/his family. Apparently > some Avalonians consider themselves to be personally involved with the > Ferry family ! > > Me? I just like the music. > > Dave. > > NP - Truant. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Jane Fraser > To: Avalon > Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 11:52 AM > Subject: [AVALON] Hello! again > > > > Bryan and Katie get three pages in the latest (September 17) issue of > Hello! > > > > Same pics and not much new apart from a statement from his PR agency in > > London vehemently denying everything. > > > > Jane > > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > > Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html > > US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html > US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 16:16:34 -0500 From: "Paula Brown" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Ferry V Bowie or Frantic V Heathen >I like that one Paula..........I shall use it. But when Bowie sings "Wild is the wind"...or........"Win"..Well..........what more can i say. Mark.< Well, he's not completely heartless! But he didn't write it!! Paula ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 18:51:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Colleen Matan Subject: Re: [AVALON] A sell out or what! Who's kidding who? On Thu, 12 Sep 2002 EddieLeyland@aol.com wrote: > Like many of us out here in the real world, Mr Ferry used to be a > working class lad, that's true, outside lavatory, tin bath etcetera. > Polly lead the way, showed him how to behave, which knife, fork to use > etc. Here's the question, did he sell out? Children go to Eaton, Bryan > has elocution lessons, did he betray his working class roots, or did he > outgrow his past? Would any body else do it? To pretend your something > your not must be a massive strain, not just on yourself, but to everyone > around you. Your thoughts, anyone. Yes, I think he should have stayed a working class lad all of his life and never ever used an iside toilet. And as long as you buy into this "selling out" nonsense, the ruling class has you right where it wants you. Ferry took care of his parents in their old age, did he not? (didn't he bring his father to live with? near? him in comfort?) He constantly talks about his childhood and its circumstances. Is not wanting to live in a shack with the cows inside with you (or was it the sheep?) a crime? Is all of that 'selling out'? In a world where power is largely determined by money and status I think it'd be pretty silly to turn down those items if and when they are offered to you. Furthermore, he's not pretending to be anything other than what he is: a 'rock star' with good taste. Then again, I'm American and here the Horatio Alger stories still resonate, albeit not quiet as loudly as a century ago. Nonetheless social mobility is still considered an option and upward mobility an advantage. Or, as it has been ingrained into many of our minds: We're movin' on up to the East Side To a De-Luxe apartment in the sky-y-y Movin' on up to the East Side We finally got a piece of the pie Colleen ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 23:56:29 +0100 From: "Cassidy, Chris J (CPS)" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Ferry V Bowie or Frantic V Heathen OK Mark. David apparently likes a good vindaloo. I would assert that Ferry's equally partial to a good madras himself as extolled in 'both ends burning'. Regards Chris > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark Yates [SMTP:mark@myates19.fsnet.co.uk] > Sent: 12 September 2002 21:35 > To: avalon@smoe.org > Subject: Re: [AVALON] Ferry V Bowie or Frantic V Heathen > > But when Bowie sings "Wild is the > wind ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 19:10:10 -0400 From: "John M. Gray" Subject: Re: [AVALON] A sell out or what! Who's kidding who? Sure, those of us who grew up in the working class towns of Scotland and England (and Wales and Ireland) knew hardship in the 50's and 60's (and long before, and I'm sure some folks still maintain the same!). However, Ferry had the insight, and the gift, to realize that he had a talent which could extract himself , not forgetting, from this upbringing. Hey, we all have to get on in life and his way of moving on was to induce his musical and theatrical talents on a public who were crying out for something original. Along came Roxy Music (along with others..) So I do not condone Ferry for working hard to give his family the best that life has to offer, especially his parents, who worked so hard to raise their family. Good on him (just wish he would give us more original material!). Anyway, followed him and his cohortes around the world for the last 30 years, I can only say that I have - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2002 4:55 PM Subject: [AVALON] A sell out or what! Who's kidding who? > Like many of us out here in the real world, Mr Ferry used to be a working > class lad, that's true, outside lavatory, tin bath etcetera. Polly lead the > way, showed him how to behave, which knife, fork to use etc. Here's the > question, did he sell out? Children go to Eaton, Bryan has elocution lessons, > did he betray his working class roots, or did he outgrow his past? Would any > body else do it? To pretend your something your not must be a massive strain, > not just on yourself, but to everyone around you. Your thoughts, anyone. > > The information contained in this message may be confidential and is intended > for the addressee only. Any unauthorised use, dissemination of the > information, or copying of this message is prohibited. 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