From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V7 #299 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Sunday, September 8 2002 Volume 07 : Number 299 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [AVALON] Ferry's private life ["Christian H. Soetemann" ] Re: [AVALON] Live at the Apollo ["Stephen Scott" ] [AVALON] Pre-gig meeting in Paris ["Caroline Torterat" ] [AVALON] More Ferry/Bowie in Village Voice [Chandla911@aol.com] [AVALON] Dream ticket [Go2Sweeney@aol.com] Re: [AVALON] More Ferry/Bowie in Village Voice ["terrypaulrigz8c" ] Re: [AVALON] More Ferry/Bowie in Village Voice ["Tim Kendrick" ] [AVALON] [Avalon] The next sound you hear ["Paula Brown" ] [AVALON] Fading life of Bryan [David Firmin ] Re: [AVALON] Polling Avalon ["Maggie Curran" ] [AVALON] Re: Fading Life of Bryan [Helchat@aol.com] To leave the list, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon-digest ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 07 Sep 2002 10:24:33 +0100 From: "Christian H. Soetemann" Subject: [AVALON] Ferry's private life I can understand KBP regretting someone leaving the list who she felt contributed valuable comments. Whether any of the other Avalonians would have felt a similar inclination as the departed list member or not, it's got to be respected. Personally, I cannot allow myself to judge on Ferry's private undertakings. It's his business, and I'm sure he would prefer it to be kept that way. Most of us have a constructed image of Ferry's character - gathered from press bits, gigs, and the music, of course. In interviews, although perceiving him as polite and likeable, I have read about several of Ferry's opinions I don't agree at all with (hunting &c.). Yet the main role Ferry plays in my life is that of a musician who makes records and plays live - that's what I can judge on. That is, if I were 56, I might choose different paths, but people aren't standardized, and I have no insight on the development of his marriage over the 20 years it lasted. Speaking for myself, if two people aren't happy living with each other anymore, and the gulf seems to have become too wide to bridge it, why should they be condemned to hold on to this out of society obligation? I guess it's also to do with cultural traditions... I can only add I hope both Bryan and Lucy Ferry as well as their family will find happiness in the ways they choose to lead their lives, whereever that might take them. Christian NP: BF - Don't Ever Change ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 12:38:23 +0300 (EEST) From: Pasi Toivo Subject: [AVALON] Live at the Apollo Finnish Broadcasting Company will show 'Roxy Music - Live at the Apollo' next Friday 13.9.02. One hour - can anybody tell how long is Roxy Music DVD concert without a documentary? Greetings Pasi Heart Still Beating - -- ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 10:52:46 +0100 From: "Stephen Scott" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Live at the Apollo Pasi, The DVD concert last for approx. 105 mins according to the case. I wonder what they'll edit? Cheers the noo Stevie N/P - Paul Weller - Illumination (thank you KaZaA!) - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pasi Toivo" To: Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2002 10:38 AM Subject: [AVALON] Live at the Apollo > Finnish Broadcasting Company will show 'Roxy Music - Live at the Apollo' > next Friday 13.9.02. One hour - can anybody tell how long is Roxy Music > DVD concert without a documentary? > > Greetings > > Pasi > Heart Still Beating > -- > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html > US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 05:50:32 EDT From: DEAGLERR@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] No Subject On Fri, 6 Sep 2002, KB Porter wrote: > >To this I add, I am really ANGRY!!! Because this morning I >read a private email from one of our most respected and warm >hearted contributors telling me she has decided to no longer >follow Bryan Ferry and his music because of this sordid >affair. She is moving on, and I will very much miss her >intelligent input - it had always been fair and positive. >Avalon List will suffer. And, too, Ferry's record sales >will be fewer, at least by one unit, in the future. >Publicity indeed is a double edged sword! Is she throwing out her BF/Roxy collection? If so, put me in touch, maybe there's something I don't have. Course if she's gonna hold her breath till she turns blue & passes out, it might be better to put me in touch with the executor of her will. Anxiously, R Deagle NP/ "It's MY Party, I'll Cry If I. Want To." BF ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 11:48:25 +0100 From: "Philip Adams" Subject: [AVALON] A Mad Affair 2 Bryan and Katie -so this is the format that it took. Philip ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 12:22:36 +0200 From: "Caroline Torterat" Subject: [AVALON] Pre-gig meeting in Paris Hi Avalonians! Soon, some of us will be by the Seine, for 2 wonderful Parisian evenings.. We propose you a pre-gig meeting, at 5pm, on 22th of September, at: Le grand cafi des Capucines 4 Boulevard des Capucines Mitro :Opira (Olympia theater is on the 28, same Boulevard) You will just need to enter to join the IN crowd! Hope to see you there! Caroline A little of vocabulary/history: The word Capucine has 3 meanings in French: - - a flower ("nasturtium") - - a child danse - - a Capuchin Nun: This is the meaning of the address: In the Middle Age was there a convent.. Perhaps Psalm will be added to the set list! As Avalon list seems to develop an increasing number of marriage stories, may I add that Napolion married Josiphine de Beauharnais at the 24 , rue des Capucines.. ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 07:37:27 EDT From: Chandla911@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] More Ferry/Bowie in Village Voice In the new Village Voice, 9/4-9/10, first time in many many years rock critic dean Robert Christgau has devoted an entire one of his paragraph reviews to a Bowie album. And foolishly it makes his pick as "Dud of the month": Dud of the Month DAVID BOWIE Heathen (ISO/Columbia) The "Bowie's back" huzzahs that accompany every one of this music mill's new releases beg the question of what he's back to and from. The reason Englishmen have actually touted him as the greatest rock artiste of all time is that he's the least American major rock artiste of all time, which is one reason his careful brand maintenance isn't filling any arenas over here. Just to be mean I compared his latest phoenix imitation to 1979's Lodger, a certified nonclassic I always kind of liked. Lodger won easy. He has indeed Learned to Sing, thus rendering himself more the chansonnier only art-rockers ever wanted him to be, and the strain is hell on his sense of humor. The textures are nicer now, but whose aren't? And while the songwriting ain't bad, it also ain't that good. Just switch between the Black Francis cover and any other track and you'll know exactly what I mean. C PLUS Last week's feature review, huge, is on Bryan Ferry, with Bowie content: ....Roxy Music, named for a movie theater in Ferry's hometown, had style for miles: The group's peacock-feathered keyboardist, Brian Eno, quickly developed a cult following so large, acolytes would shout his name during Roxy concerts, which rankled Ferry, who wrote and sang the group's songs. After two LPs, Eno left for a solo career, releasing briny albums of art-pop and inventing ambient music. With each new record, Ferry debuted a new persona ba dinner-jacketed matinee idol or a jackbooted soldierbimmediately imitated by British teens. Ferry was the most handsome man in rock (and even more handsome in person than in photos): Rumors persisted that he would be chosen as the next James Bond. Through the '70s, when Roxy ruled hip England, he staged an unspoken competition with David Bowie, 16 months his junior: When Ferry released a solo album of cover songs in 1973, Bowie quickly answered with Pin-Ups, a similar record; when Roxy moved into disco, Bowie soon followed with "Fame" and "Young Americans"; eventually, Bowie even hired designer Antony Price, Ferry's old friend, to make stage costumes. If Ferry had put on the brakes, Bowie would've broken his nose.... Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but pur-leeze... best wishes Richard n/p Waiting for the Man - Velvet Underground ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 07:43:09 EDT From: Go2Sweeney@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Dream ticket This weekend's dream ticket on 6 music (BBC): Roxy Music: Love is the drug. Goodie ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 12:56:16 +0100 From: "terrypaulrigz8c" Subject: Re: [AVALON] More Ferry/Bowie in Village Voice - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2002 12:37 PM Subject: [AVALON] More Ferry/Bowie in Village Voice > In the new Village Voice, 9/4-9/10, first time in many many years rock critic > dean Robert Christgau has devoted an entire one of his paragraph reviews to a > Bowie album. And foolishly it makes his pick as "Dud of the month": "when Roxy moved into disco, Bowie soon followed with "Fame" and "Young Americans";" This Robert Christgau should get his facts write. Bowies "Young Americans" entered the UK charts on 1st March 1975, "Love Is The Drug" (and I assume this is what he means by "Disco") arrived 11th October 1975. God bloody journolists, can't even get out a copy of Guinness book of hit singles for a bit of homework. Anyway wasn't Young Americans (plastic) soul, which is NOT the same as disco. Terry "O" ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 07:29:23 -0400 From: "Tim Kendrick" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Polling Avalon >Some of you randy lads have written that dating a Very Young Girl is an >invigorating experience, ranking right up there with life's most >awesome opportunities.... > Actually, the thing that has really shocked me, and the reason I am thinking of leaving this list in a rage, is that Bryan Ferry has managed to reach the age of fifty-six without working out the obvious truth that all twenty-one year olds are lousy in bed... Tim ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 07:33:21 -0400 From: "Tim Kendrick" Subject: Re: [AVALON] More Ferry/Bowie in Village Voice >In the new Village Voice, 9/4-9/10, first time in many many years rock critic >dean Robert Christgau has devoted an entire one of his paragraph reviews to a >Bowie album. And foolishly it makes his pick as "Dud of the month": > I've always admired the Village Voice. Now I love it. Tim ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 17:28:16 +0200 From: "Karin Verboom" Subject: Re: [AVALON] More Ferry/Bowie in Village Voice - ----- Original Message ----- From: "terrypaulrigz8c" To: ; "avalon" Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2002 1:56 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] More Ferry/Bowie in Village Voice > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2002 12:37 PM > Subject: [AVALON] More Ferry/Bowie in Village Voice > > > > In the new Village Voice, 9/4-9/10, first time in many many years rock > critic > > dean Robert Christgau has devoted an entire one of his paragraph reviews > to a > > Bowie album. And foolishly it makes his pick as "Dud of the month": > > "when Roxy moved into disco, Bowie soon followed with "Fame" and "Young > Americans";" > > This Robert Christgau should get his facts write. > Bowies "Young Americans" entered the UK charts on 1st March 1975, "Love Is > The Drug" (and I assume this is what he means by "Disco") arrived 11th > October 1975. God bloody journolists, can't even get out a copy of Guinness > book of hit singles for a bit of homework. Anyway wasn't Young Americans > (plastic) soul, which is NOT the same as disco. > > Terry "O" > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html > US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) > > wich of you folks meet before the concert monday in amsterdam and what time and were? please let me know bye karin from holland ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Sep 2002 18:07:50 +0000 From: "julie ahmadi" Subject: [AVALON] The next sound you hear I can't believe that a true Ferry fan would leave the list over his alleged fling with a 21 year old. Its their business and has nothing to do with anyone else. Its his music that counts not what goes on in his private life. After all none of us knows the full story anyway. All I can say is that whoever has now "fallen out" with Bryan - she couldn't have been much of a fan in the first place. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: Click Here ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 23:15:59 +0100 From: "Mark Yates" Subject: Re: [AVALON] The next sound you hear As much as I have tried to keep away from the subject of Ferry's personal problems, I would must agree with Julie on this point. Surely we like Ferry for the music he has produced over the years, There are plenty of reasons why he could fall from favour, "Lets face it marrying into aristocracy" is enough to make me feel sick, his off spring seem to be complete idiots. In fact I think Ferry and myself are complete opposites in our political thinking, But its the music that matters, he produces great sounds always has.Everything else is just matter of fact that shouldn't matter to any of us. Sure there is nothing wrong in expressing your view on the subject, but to turn your back on his Music is ridiculous. Mark. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "julie ahmadi" To: Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2002 7:07 PM Subject: [AVALON] The next sound you hear > I can't believe that a true Ferry fan would leave the list over his > alleged fling with a 21 year old. Its their business and has nothing to > do with anyone else. Its his music that counts not what goes on in his > private life. After all none of us knows the full story anyway. All I > can say is that whoever has now "fallen out" with Bryan - she couldn't > have been much of a fan in the first place. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: Click Here > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html > US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Sep 2002 18:28:53 -0400 From: KB Porter Subject: Re: [AVALON] The Next Sound You Hear ... Jonathan, I am sorry I wasn't clearer when discussing our member. She conveyed to me that she was disappointed with the current situation, and that situation along with prior disappointments with Mr. Ferry in various areas had become sufficient that she was no longer interested in following him or his work. She did not leave the list solely on this current event! I deeply respect and understand her decision, I know it was a difficult one to make, but her conscience is clear, the decision she made is right for her. - Every one has to live within their 'comfort zone'. Please don't shoot the messenger, I only wanted list members to know that 'a stone dropped in a pool of water creates many ripples outward that collide on their journey back to the point where the stone was dropped'. - We do not live in a vacuum. And our list member is not pathetic. Best wishes from Toy Land! KBP ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 23:30:54 +0100 From: "Mark Yates" Subject: Re: [AVALON] More Ferry/Bowie in Village Voice .< Anyway wasn't Young Americans (plastic) soul,> No it wasn't. it was, and still is a darn' good album. "Can you hear me" "Right" "Fascination" "Somebody up there likes me". Nothing plastic about them. Mark. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "terrypaulrigz8c" To: ; "avalon" Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2002 12:56 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] More Ferry/Bowie in Village Voice > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2002 12:37 PM > Subject: [AVALON] More Ferry/Bowie in Village Voice > > > > In the new Village Voice, 9/4-9/10, first time in many many years rock > critic > > dean Robert Christgau has devoted an entire one of his paragraph reviews > to a > > Bowie album. And foolishly it makes his pick as "Dud of the month": > > "when Roxy moved into disco, Bowie soon followed with "Fame" and "Young > Americans";" > > This Robert Christgau should get his facts write. > Bowies "Young Americans" entered the UK charts on 1st March 1975, "Love Is > The Drug" (and I assume this is what he means by "Disco") arrived 11th > October 1975. God bloody journolists, can't even get out a copy of Guinness > book of hit singles for a bit of homework. Anyway wasn't Young Americans > (plastic) soul, which is NOT the same as disco. > > Terry "O" > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html > US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Sep 2002 19:10:22 -0400 From: KB Porter Subject: [AVALON] The Miscommunication It has become painfully clear, based upon some responses offered to my posts concerning the Ferrys' situation, that some might benefit from a pointed condensation and quotation of what I believe are the founding statements of any opinions I have expressed with respect to the Ferrys' situation. Or, simply put - This is basically what I wrote. 1) "The news is sad, but not surprising - is it, Folks?" -posted 17 August 2) "... divorce or not, the Ferrys relationship is a convenience and a convention of family and society. How they chose to conduct this facet of their personal relationship is not very relevant to future discussion, nor is it terribly interesting. The damage is already done!" -posted 20 August 3) "... there is no villain here and no one should be made out as such." -posted 22 August 4) "My dissatisfaction with the situation has nothing to do with physical appearance, it has all to do with living lies." -posted 5 September 5) "The age difference Is Not Important." -posted 5 September 6) "He willfully engaged in a legal contract with Lucy Ferry. Had he terminated this contract PRIOR to moving on, I'd not be disappointed with him." -posted 5 September 7) "... - that Mr. Ferry was unable or unwilling to take the responsibility, to step up to the line and do what any man of true honor would have naturally done, which would have been to dissolve his legal obligation to Mrs. Ferry before the situation got out of hand - speaks volumes about Ferry's disappointing, disgraceful behavior." -posted 5 September C'est tout! It occurred to me that there has been miscommunication. Perhaps some readers misinterpreted what I wrote, took a word or phase, maybe a sentence within my posts out of context. Perhaps I should have anticipated the excitable nature of some readers and carefully defined each word that, when standing alone, might be viewed as inflammatory or judgmental. If I am guilty of anything, it is that I have stated I am very disappointed with Mr. Ferry for not handling the situation properly, with honorable fashion. Given his history, I had assumed he had learned from previous mistakes made in prior relationships - that anything less than honesty and forthright disclosure is a slap in the face to all parties involved. The truth would have hurt, but not nearly as much nor as long as a deception or misrepresentation would. Generically speaking, it would have been best to politely, kindly dissolve the legal boundaries of marriage before complicating the already shifting relationship with his children and family (including any 'ex's') before moving on to another phase of life. There was no need to bring more pain than was necessary by cleanly dissolving his marriage. I expected too much from him. I am sorry but Bryan Ferry, in my opinion, is not the 'great man of style' that some of you make him out to be. - He is a rather ordinary person, much like you and me! However, he still remains, in my opinion, a wonderful artist. You may disagree with any part or all of what I have written. You may ask for expansion of meaning if you are uncertain about what I seem to be trying to convey. But if you approach my writing with ill-will or reproach me with angry temper you will neither discover nor comprehend my frame of reference and my view of life and all the variety it offers. - We will fail to communicate, and we will be the weaker for it. Best wishes to All. K.B.Porter ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 18:40:47 -0500 From: "Paula Brown" Subject: [AVALON] [Avalon] The next sound you hear I've stayed out of this one, pretty much. I just have one thing I want anyone interested in the matter to seriously consider. Best I can tell, pretty much all of you assume Bryan was the first one to break the marriage contract. I think before basing all your conclusions and actions on that, you should consider that he may very well NOT have been the first one to break the marriage contract. Just because the press hasn't anything doesn't mean it didn't happen. Could have happened years and years ago and set the precedent. You don't know. Let's say, hypothetically speaking, that something like that did happen and he wasn't the first to stray. Wouldn't Bryan deserve a little slack now? Just a little. Given that we all love and respect him on some level, wouldn't giving him the benefit of the doubt be in order, at least? Sincerely, Paula ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 20:35:34 -0500 From: "Paula Brown" Subject: [AVALON] The Observer 9/8/02 - Funny article Hey, isn't that whatsisname over there? Harriet Lane Sunday September 8, 2002 The Observer Apparently, Jennifer Lopez really hates being looked at. Which must be a bit of a bind if you're a hot Latina singer/actress/perfumier with the world's most famous bottom. Builders working on Lopez's Los Angeles mansion are told to keep their eyes fixed upon her shoes while addressing her; extras filming her new video are instructed to avoid eye contact because it makes her feel 'uncomfy'. Look-at-me-don't-look-at-me is a celebrity syndrome with other equally disturbing symptoms: shades indoors, for instance, and silly aliases. The devastating news about Bryan Ferry last week was not that he and his wife have separated, nor that he has taken up with a backing singer two years older than his eldest son. No: the blow came when the Sun revealed that he booked into a Munich hotel under the name of Max de Winter. Maxim de Winter travelled with a camel-hair dressing gown and a set of ivory hairbrushes. He filed his nails with an emery board when proposing marriage. Well, maybe the last was taking things too far, but you get the drift: style, style, style. And here's the ever-decorative Bryan, a man who has so far managed to get most things right, broadcasting his own aspirations in a way that makes you wish most fervently that he had picked a name with less resonance. Like, well, Bryan Ferry, for instance. Oh, Bryan, Bryan! We thought you were so urbane, so sophisticated, we'd even forgiven you that rogue Y. Now we know how highly you too rate those qualities, much of the gloss has come off them. And then there's the subtext. Chivalry is a rather outdated concept, but Mr Ferry always had a permanent reservation at the Round Table (that's the one on the far left at the Ivy). The last of the courtly lovers, he wrote a song called 'Avalon', stuck falcons on album covers, named one of his four sons Merlin and even assumed the hopeless King Arthur role to Jerry Hall's Guinevere and Ole Rubberlips's Lancelot. Now here he is, casting his wife as Rebecca - Little Miss Wicked Ways herself. Could a reconciliation be on the cards? Probably not. The names that stars use while travelling 'incognito' (a state also known as Yes, Yes, It Really Is Me Crossing The Foyer Surrounded By Burly Men With Wires In Their Ears) are a shorthand for their relationship with fame. Elton John, reports Heat magazine, signs in as Sir Humphrey Handbag: a joke at his own expense, much like those Parcelforce ads, underlining his status as the nation's favourite pantomime dame. Johnny Depp (Mr Stench) and Norman Cook (Norman Bates) would have you believe they don't take it too seriously. Geri Halliwell, the girl who sang 'Look at Me' while the world yawned, is Trixie Firecracker. Ever keen to prove how serious she can be, Madonna signs in as Kit Moresby - a reference to Paul Bowles's The Sheltering Sky. Tom Cruise goes for the overwrought exoticism of Mr Zaraski (a Victorian illusionist, or political refugee turned itinerant piano tuner). That terrible man H from Steps styles himself as Mr G. String. Oh, my sides. Truth to tell, there's a remarkable amount of bad punning going on for the benefit of the personable young men behind the reception desk. George Michael is Hugh Jarse. Robbie Williams, who ran through an airport in a Robbie Williams mask, is Ivor Biggin. Perhaps it's a test. Perhaps that's the Holy Grail: finding a hotel so posh that the staff neither giggle nor sneer when handing over the key to the penthouse and saying, 'Enjoy your stay, Mr Jarse.' The only person who seems to have cracked this business of fake names is Robert de Niro, who travels as Mr Mitchell. Mr Mitchell has no baggage: no, not even a teeny Louis Vuitton trunk. Mr Mitchell gives nothing away. It is a classy, knowing solution. Not that it will actually fool anyone. There'll be no mistaking Bobby as he checks his hair in the elevator mirror panels, or snaps up the last helping of Crunchy Nut at the breakfast buffet. But still, all credit to the man for trying. And if you're thinking it's all he could come up with in a hurry, shame on you. ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 20:38:53 -0500 From: "Paula Brown" Subject: [AVALON] The Guardian Observer link if you prefer 9/8/02 http://www.observer.co.uk/review/story/0,6903,787839,00.html Paula ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 21:41:13 -0400 From: "Tim Kendrick" Subject: Re: [AVALON] The next sound you hear - --- >As much as I have tried to keep away from the subject of Ferry's personal >problems, I would must agree with Julie on this point. Surely we like Ferry >for the music he has produced over the years, There are plenty of reasons >why he could fall from favour, "Lets face it marrying into aristocracy" is >enough to make me feel sick, his off spring seem to be complete idiots. > why? Do clarify. Tim ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 19:06:15 -0700 (PDT) From: David Firmin Subject: [AVALON] Fading life of Bryan - --------------------------------- Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 19:17:09 -0700 (PDT) From: David Firmin Subject: [AVALON] Fading life of Bryan I tried to post the scostman story, but it was way too long. Click her for link and Bry cartoon: http://news.scotsman.com/columnists.cfm?id=999492002 *** Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 07 Sep 2002 23:14:25 -0400 From: "Maggie Curran" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Polling Avalon Oh ha-ha, ha-ha, ha-ha!! Maggie >From: "Tim Kendrick" >To: "Avalonia" >Subject: Re: [AVALON] Polling Avalon >Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 07:29:23 -0400 > > >Some of you randy lads have written that dating a Very Young Girl is an > >invigorating experience, ranking right up there with life's most > >awesome opportunities.... > > > >Actually, the thing that has really shocked me, and the reason I am >thinking >of leaving this list in a rage, is that Bryan Ferry has managed to reach >the >age of fifty-six without working out the obvious truth that all twenty-one >year olds are lousy in bed... > >Tim > > >___________________________________________________________________________ >To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon >Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html >US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2002 23:26:36 EDT From: Helchat@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Re: Fading Life of Bryan " . . . being treated for a two-year alcohol and drug addiction after the death of her father. Ferry''s detachment during this time subsequently became a source of friction. " What, like she was living with them when this occured, and personally observed his "detachment"? Give me a break . . . Helene ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html US ticket sale info: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ (updated weekly) ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V7 #299 **************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest