From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V7 #252 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Friday, July 26 2002 Volume 07 : Number 252 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [AVALON] where are you ? ["Rachel Smither" ] Re: [AVALON] Ferry/ Without comparison ["Philip Adams" ] Re: [AVALON] Ferry/Bowie comparison ["Mark Yates" ] [AVALON] poets ["S Clarke" ] Re: [AVALON] Ferry's Lyrics ( Adult language follows) ["Judy Kaufman" ] [AVALON] Andy Mackay [Chandla911@aol.com] [AVALON] Tim - 'Eno stuff' [Chandla911@aol.com] To leave the list, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon-digest ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 19:54:24 +0100 From: "Rachel Smither" Subject: Re: [AVALON] where are you ? - -----Original Message----- From: kevin routley To: avalon@smoe.org Date: 25 July 2002 04:28 Subject: [AVALON] Bryan Ferry tour souvenirs >Some more official Bryan Ferry tour souvenirs at eBay... > >For details, go see my seller list: >http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewListedItems&userid=musicink& >sort=3&page=1&rows=0&since=-1 > >Best wishes >Richard Mills > >n/p Best of Jonathan Ross - www.bbc.co.uk/radio2 > > >___________________________________________________________________________ >To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon >Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 19:57:03 +0100 From: "Rachel Smither" Subject: Re: [AVALON] where are you - -----Original Message----- From: To: avalon@smoe.org Date: 25 July 2002 18.55 Subject: [AVALON] where are you >lve been sending you posts since monday ? mail is returned where are you ? kevin > >___________________________________________________________________________ >To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon >Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 11:58:29 -0700 From: "mark shanahan" Subject: Re: [AVALON] solo stelists (was Belvoir Castle) _______________________________________________________________ Get the FREE email that has everyone talking at http://www.mail2world.com <-----Original Message-----> >From: Maggie Curran >Just to compare, I looked at the setlist for Bryan's ATGB in Boston on >7 Nov 1999. There were 12 songs (count 'em 12) from ATGB [cut] > >Would someone care to compare the Mamouna album with the Mamouna Tour >setlists? i'm a bit behind here and don't know if anyone responded to this ... i saw ferry in '94 and he played four songs from 'mamouna' (nyc, mamouna, your painted smile, and the 39 steps). this show was the first time i'd gotten to see bryan live and i was just thrilled to be there. so, i wasn't counting the # of new songs at the time ... now i wonder how this also figures for what # of new songs were played on the various roxy tours. anyone? peaces/ms ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 15:10:28 EDT From: AMeyersLD@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Re: avalon Lou Reed and David Bowie aren't poets shocker s: << Lou Reed and David Bowie aren't poets shocker >> It should be pointed out that Lou did study for five years under the poet Delmore Scwartz. In fact, he dedicated a song on the first Velvets album to DS, and most of the album "The Blue Mask" is about him. Bowie, on the other hand, studied under Lindsay Kemp -- a Mime. Draw your own conclusions. Oh, and I once had occassion to see Lou in a suit, and he wore it extremely well. Andrew in Chicago ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 16:10:00 -0400 From: "Tim Kendrick" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Ferry's Lyrics >it (diversity - it's what keeps Bowie vital and relevant). Musically dull? >Are you having a laugh? After the Beatles, he invented music! I'm always having a laugh when it comes to you, Simon! His influence >goes wider and deeper than probably any other white rock musician of the >20th century. Influence has nothing to do with it. Some really great talents don't influence anyone. Some do. Some fairly mediocre people influence everyone! this is commerce. Make money, influence people - so they can make money too! Big deal. So Bowie is the ANDERSEN ACCOUNTING of music - just look how influential they've been! Everybody in the US accounts like Andersen! He also has an experimental nature and this is fundamental to >his continuing evolution> Nonsense! When will people figure out that THERE IS NO EXPERIMENTING TO BE DONE IN THREE CHORD MUSIC? I remember when a friend shoved HEART'S FILTHY LESSON in my hands as an example of David Bowie's courage as an experimenter - and what it was, of course, was a completely orthodox pop song with a wobbly bit and some very vaguely pretentious lyrics. It isn't new! it isn't avant garde! It isn't experimental! There is no pop avant garde. You really HAVE heard it all before! >> Rather than being a poet, he ( Lou Reed) is a realist, observational and commentary,probably for a side of life that most of us will never encounter. >> No he's not, he's a romantic. Ian Dury - better than any 'rock god' - was a reallist. Ray Davies in some modes is a reallist. Dylan is a realist. Even Tom Waits is sometimes a realist. Reed sentimentalises everything. But, look, I'm really interested in what those who dislike FRANTIC think Ferry SHOULD be doing. This is not to provoke - I'm curious. Tim ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 23:41:55 +0100 From: "Philip Adams" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Ferry/ Without comparison KB Porter wrote > > I have an appreciation for both. > I still respect Mr. Ferry's work, but for the life of me, I > do not understand what is going on with his music or his > career the past few years. I remain hopeful that Bryan > Ferry will once again emerge from the wilderness and give us > more amazing music. Where is this coming from, KP? Ferry is in his mid-50's , a family man and quite comfortable now. There is no way he's going to produce For Your Pleasure again - an achievement from his early years when he had real energy, influences from the early 70's London scene and bummed around in a battered transit van or whatever. Then he literally did not know what tomorrow might bring. I think any artist - actor, writer, singer, painter - should be allowed to mature and develop and reflect their persona, their art, in who they are now. Not try to relive old glories.[ Stand up , Jagger.] "As Time Goes By" and "Frantic" were not produced in a wilderness. They are confident works of a man trying new, old things. Listen to Ferry's voice on ATGB and then on "Stranded". The same person. Yes. The same artist, no. Endless hedonism of 1973 contrasted with masterful reworkings of old songs. I saw a photograph of an ageing stripped-to-the-waist Iggy Pop at Brixton Academy the other day. Not for me, thanks. Keep on growing old , Mr Ferry. Philip ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 23:50:04 +0100 From: "Philip Adams" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Ferry's Lyrics Tim Kendrick wrote > But, look, I'm really interested in what those who dislike FRANTIC > think Ferry SHOULD be doing. This is not to provoke - I'm curious. Let's have some answers please , lads and lasses. I thought the received wisdom on Frantic was that it was his solo best work since "The Bride Stripped Bare". I like it , its still full of surprises after so many months. Personally I think everyone's hiding behind "Alphaville" . Philip ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 23:49:24 +0100 From: "Mark Yates" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Ferry/Bowie comparison Good choice David. My favourite Bowie albums are "Station to Station" and "Hunky Dory" They had nothing what so ever to do with Eno. And for the record my favourite Iggy albums are the Idiot and Lust for life. and My favourite Lou album is Transformer, and unless I'm sadly mistaken Bowie had more than a little input into all of those albums. and before everyone says"Transformer wasn't Lou's best album" (Because its popular) and its trendy to dislike popular albums..........In my opinion it is his finest. and yes I have them all. Including the Velvets. Mark. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Firmin" To: Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 7:46 PM Subject: Fw: [AVALON] Ferry/Bowie comparison > The first two Roxy albums were ahead of their time, but I have to agree with > Eno that Stranded is the best Roxy album. > > Extract from Ferry interview: > > Q: Did Eno leave Roxy at the right time? > > A: "It's impossible to say. To Brian's credit, his favourite album is > Stranded, which he isn't on. It is intriguing to imagine what he'd have done > with the others...Maybe I should get him into my studio to play along with > them." > > > Great idea Bryan! > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark Yates" > To: > Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 11:04 AM > Subject: Re: [AVALON] Ferry/Bowie comparison > > > > Eno's influence on Bowie has never been in doubt. > > Eno influences all the people he has worked with. > > Never more so than his work with Ferry. > > The first Two Roxy album were ahead of their time. > > Thanks in no small part to Eno. How do you rate Stranded??. Ahead of its > > time?? No. But still a great album. But the Eno influence well and truly > > vanished. > > Mark. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Christian H. Soetemann" > > To: > > Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 2:34 PM > > Subject: Re: [AVALON] Ferry/Bowie comparison > > > > > > > ---------- > > > >Von: "Simon Galloway" > > > >An: avalon@smoe.org > > > >Betreff: Re: [AVALON] Ferry's Lyrics > > > >Datum: Don, 25. Jul 2002 8:30 Uhr > > > > > > > >Musically dull? Are you having a laugh? After the Beatles, he invented > > > >music! His influence goes wider and deeper than probably any other > white > > > >rock musician of the 20th century. He also has an experimental nature > and > > > >this is fundamental to his continuing evolution. Whilst Ferry stands > > still > > > > > > Nothing against Bowie's experimental nature, as far as I know his stuff, > > he > > > has clearly been prone to experimenting. But Bowie having invented > music? > > > Compare Roxy's first album and 'Ziggy Stardust', both released in 72 (to > > my > > > knowledge), and while one of the album is very good solid rock music, > the > > > other one is maybe one of the weirdest butterflies to ever have appeared > > in > > > rock music. Check out Bowie's list of influences in the booklet of 'The > > > Buddha of Suburbia'. > > > > > > I absolutely love 'Low' & 'Heroes', but shouldn't Eno's influence be > > > acknowledged? I think, THIS is one of the most prominent figures in 20th > > > century music. Without Eno, Bowie wouldn't have made these albums in the > > way > > > they are now. > > > > > > >(probably scratching his arse) Bowie gets in there, has enthusiasm for > > what > > > >he does and then gets it released. As someone pointed out the other > day, > > > >even his failures make interesting listening. > > > > > > I like 'Heathen', but I don't know what's so experimental about it. > > There's > > > not a lot that's experimental about 'Frantic' either, though. Bowie > > recently > > > mentioned in an interview that he enjoys writing, but not really singing > > the > > > stuff. Maybe Ferry enjoys singing material, but scratches his head (not > > his > > > arse, erm) when it comes to writing lyrics. Bowie has got a great > > > characteristic voice, but Ferry has a strangely melancholic croon that > is > > > unlike any other voice I ever heard. The only other male singer that has > a > > > similarly emotional effect on me - in a different way - is the sadly > > largely > > > unknown Peter Hammill (who is said to have influenced Bowie, by the > way). > > > > > > Anyway, I deeply respect anyone's preference for Bowie! But I think it > can > > > be traced back to personal preference why for some people Bowie's > failures > > > are 'interesting' and Ferry's failures just failures. Remember 'Dancing > In > > > The Street'? Especially the video!! > > > > > > Christian > > > > > > NP: XTC - Easter Theatre (demo) > > > > > > > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > > > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > > > Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html > > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > > Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 23:53:35 +0100 From: "Mark Yates" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: avalon Lou Reed and David Bowie aren't poets shocker The conclusion i draw is that being lucky enough to see them both live. David gives a far better stage show than Lou. in fact there is no one to touch Bowie in live performance. and. he writes better songs. regardless of who he did or didn't study under. Mark. - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 8:10 PM Subject: [AVALON] Re: avalon Lou Reed and David Bowie aren't poets shocker > s: > > << Lou Reed and David Bowie aren't poets shocker >> > It should be pointed out that Lou did study for five years under the poet > Delmore Scwartz. In fact, he dedicated a song on the first Velvets album to > DS, and most of the album "The Blue Mask" is about him. > Bowie, on the other hand, studied under Lindsay Kemp -- a Mime. > Draw your own conclusions. > Oh, and I once had occassion to see Lou in a suit, and he wore it extremely > well. > Andrew in Chicago > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 00:02:05 +0100 From: "Mark Yates" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Ferry's Lyrics Tim either this is a complete wind up and I'm missing the point of it. OR You are just a first rate twat. for a musical forum you talk utter crap. Mark. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Kendrick" To: "Avalonia" Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 9:10 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Ferry's Lyrics > >it (diversity - it's what keeps Bowie vital and relevant). Musically dull? > >Are you having a laugh? After the Beatles, he invented music! > > I'm always having a laugh when it comes to you, Simon! > > > His influence > >goes wider and deeper than probably any other white rock musician of the > >20th century. > > > Influence has nothing to do with it. Some really great > talents don't influence anyone. Some do. Some fairly mediocre people > influence > everyone! this is commerce. Make money, influence people - so > they can make money too! Big deal. So Bowie is the ANDERSEN ACCOUNTING > of music - just look how influential they've been! Everybody in the US > accounts like > Andersen! > > > He also has an experimental nature and this is fundamental to > >his continuing evolution> > > Nonsense! When will people figure out that THERE IS NO EXPERIMENTING TO > BE DONE IN THREE CHORD MUSIC? I remember when a friend shoved > HEART'S FILTHY LESSON in my hands as an example of David Bowie's courage as > an experimenter - and what it was, of course, was a completely orthodox pop > song with > a wobbly bit and some very vaguely pretentious lyrics. It isn't new! it > isn't > avant garde! It isn't experimental! There is no pop avant garde. You really > HAVE heard it all > before! > > >> Rather than being a poet, he ( Lou Reed) is a realist, observational and > commentary,probably for a side of life that most of us will never encounter. > >> > > No he's not, he's a romantic. Ian Dury - better than any 'rock god' - was a > reallist. Ray Davies in some modes is a reallist. Dylan is a realist. Even > Tom Waits is sometimes a realist. Reed sentimentalises everything. > > But, look, I'm really interested in what those who dislike FRANTIC > think Ferry SHOULD be doing. This is not to provoke - I'm curious. > > Tim > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 10:29:54 +1000 From: "S Clarke" Subject: [AVALON] poets Of course Lou Reed is a poet. An example: THE VELVET UNDERGROUND I'll be your mirror (Reed) I'll be your mirror Reflect what you are, in case you don't know I'll be the wind, the rain and the sunset The light on your door to show that you're home When you think the night has seen your mind That inside you're twisted and unkind Let me stand to show that you are blind Please put down your hands 'Cause I see you I find it hard to believe you don't know The beauty that you are But if you don't, let me be your eyes A hand in your darkness, so you won't be afraid When you think the night has seen your mind That inside you're twisted and unkind Let me stand to show that you are blind Please put down your hands 'Cause I see you I'll be your mirror Depending on when you were born, Ferry, Reed and Bowie are some of the poets of our age. In many of their lyrics, they are speaking to and for us. Was Bob Dylan a poet? Shelley - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paula Brown" To: "Fiske, Jocelyn" ; Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 2:16 AM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Ferry's Lyrics > > And only in a thoroughly cheap and tatty culture could > > > Lou Reed pass himself off as some kind of 'poet.' > > >I've always thought he is to music what Warhol is to art< > > I think Bowie, Lou, and Ferry are all great lyricists and sometimes > poets. I agree Reed is in school with Warhol, certainly was in camp with him > at any rate. Bowie is a unique artist, born only of our time and with mostly > modern influences and none too much in evidence, but he has pointed them out, > as you say. Ferry has acknowledged the Arthurian connection in multiple > interviews at this point, so arguing it is a moot point, though I will say > that even if he hadn't, once a fan makes that connection, it is made, and the > beauty of art is that it is different things to different people and that one > person's interpretation of symbolism or lack thereof they derive from it is no > less valid even if it is completely counter to what the artist built it > intending. > > Paula > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 21:26:48 -0500 From: "Judy Kaufman" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Ferry's Lyrics ( Adult language follows) From Simon: > >> Rather than being a poet, he ( Lou Reed) is a realist, observational and > commentary,probably for a side of life that most of us will never encounter. From Tim: > No he's not, he's a romantic. From Lou Reed: Hey that cunt's not breathing, I think she's had too much of something or other, you know what I mean? I don't mean to scare you, but you're the one who came here and you're the one who's got to take her when you leave. You know I'm glad that we met man It really was nice talking and I really wish that there was a little more time to speak But you know it could be a hassle trying to explain myself to a police officer about how it was you old lady got herself stiffed And it's not like we could help her, there was nothing no one could do, and if there was man you know I would have been the first But when someone turns that blue, it's a universal truth you just know that bitch will never fuck again I know this ain't no way to treat a guest But why don't you grab your old lady by the feet and just lay her out on the darkened street and by morning she's just another hit-and-run. Street Hassle Pt. 2 Judy ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 00:31:39 EDT From: InterEireann@aol.com Subject: Fwd: [AVALON] Ferry/Bowie comparison Ok so maybe that explains why I like Roxy Music and the earlier the better.Maybe it was Brian Eno after all..I have Heroes and Low ( two of only three Bowie albums I have..Station to Station being the other )..all of U2..all of..James and a fair smattering of Talking Heads. It seems Mr Eno is the common feature!! Return-Path: Received: from rly-xi05.mx.aol.com (rly-xi05.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.10]) by air-xi04.mail.aol.com (v86_r1.16) with ESMTP id MAILINXI41-0725134817; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 13:48:17 -0400 Received: from smoe.org (jane.smoe.org [199.201.145.78]) by rly-xi05.mx.aol.com (v86_r1.15) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINXI53-0725134812; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 13:48:12 -0400 Received: from smoe.org (ident-user@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smoe.org (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g6PHm13C012143 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 13:48:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from majordom@localhost) by smoe.org (8.12.2/8.12.2/Submit) id g6PHm18b012139 for avalon-outgoing; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 13:48:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from nic.odata.se (nic.odata.se [194.52.194.100]) by smoe.org (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g6PHlw3C012101 for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 13:47:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [194.52.167.163] (fbo35.nx.net) by nic.odata.se (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-63474U3000L300S0V35) with ESMTP id se for ; Thu, 25 Jul 2002 19:47:56 +0200 X-Sender: daniel.atterbom@mail.odata.se Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20020725112737.9E6C743DF2@mailrelay.nordcom.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 19:45:01 +0200 To: avalon@smoe.org From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: Re: [AVALON] Ferry/Bowie comparison Sender: owner-avalon@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) At 13.34 +0000 02-07-25, Christian H. Soetemann wrote: >I absolutely love 'Low' & 'Heroes', but shouldn't Eno's influence be >acknowledged? I think, THIS is one of the most prominent figures in 20th >century music. Without Eno, Bowie wouldn't have made these albums in the way >they are now. Eno is in some aspects a greater influence on music then Ferry, imho. As a producer he can rival the best, having coached Bowie, Talkinh Heads, U2 and James to new highs. Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 01:52:09 -0700 From: "Keith Shockley" Subject: [AVALON] Jaguaro.org Features The link below takes you to an article about the 100 albums you should = throw away if you have. Great news though! You can keep all of your Roxy = and Ferry material.................Keith http://www.jaguaro.org/feature/03-09-02_wesk2.shtml [demime 0.97c removed an attachment of type application/octet-stream which had a name of Jaguaro.org Features.url] ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 03:38:35 EDT From: Chandla911@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Andy Mackay is on the new album by System Vertigo, in case you didn4t find the time to read your own copy of Q yet. Does anyone have info about System Vertigo (above and beyond the blurb in Q)? Best wishes Richard Mills n/p Madonna - American Pie (BBC Radio 2) ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 03:59:17 EDT From: Chandla911@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Tim - 'Eno stuff' >As if to highlight the paucity at the heart of Bowie, the composer Phillip Glass >recently made a suite of the Eno stuff, and it accidentally illuminated the absolute >lack of interest the material holds in musical terms.And it's no good saying it >shouldn't have been transferred to an orchestral context at all, without at first >acknowledging that Bowie himself, perhaps stunned by the flattery of being taken >'seriously', has supported Glass' work wholeheartedly. Surely you jest? This will be one of those times when you exaggerate a passive viewpoint? The Philip Glass stuff, re-workings of Low and Heroes, is BRILLIANT and in places inspiring on an emotional level. Bowie also samples it himself on Heathen. Richard Mills n/p Vanessa Carlton - BBC Radio 2 ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V7 #252 **************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest