From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V7 #234 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Friday, July 12 2002 Volume 07 : Number 234 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [AVALON] Jay Leno - DTT the wrong song? ["Cassidy, Chris J (CCS)" ] Re: [AVALON] Is Good All Right? ["M" ] [AVALON] Elegant art-rocker Bryan Ferry goes back to his first love -- Leadbelly ["M" ] Re: [AVALON] Colin Good's contribution to Ferry's music [KB Porter ] Re: [AVALON] Elegant art-rocker Bryan Ferry... ["David Firmin" ] Re: [AVALON] OT: Bowie in Denmark ["Mark Yates" ] [AVALON] Project Eno ["David Firmin" ] Re: [AVALON] Jay Leno - DTT the wrong song? ["Maggie Curran" ] To leave the list, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon-digest ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 10:17:36 +0100 From: "Cassidy, Chris J (CCS)" Subject: [AVALON] Jay Leno - DTT the wrong song? Perhaps it was simply down to the cost of taking the whole band as opposed to just Bry and Col for a sub 5 mins slot? Chris >Maggie C wrote "While Bryan did a good job with Don't Think Twice and >while it was a pleasure for us to hear him in excellent voice, it was >he wrong song. I can't see that the DTTIAR will win any new fans or >sell copies of Frantic. I thought he might do Goddess Of Love; after >all, he was in Hollywood! I don't understand. Cheers, Maggie ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 12:44:44 +0200 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: [AVALON] OT: Death of a cat This letter is OT. If you scroll downwards, you do it by choice. If you get angry by OT topics do not read pass this. Do not write letter complaining. If you want to reply, write to me. Thank you. I told you about putting on of our dogs to sleep in February. I posted this on [OT-avalon] and since so many of you were really nice back then, I'll post this again on Avalon. It's really hard to have pets. This year we've put one dog to sleep, returned one pug to the breeder and now our darling Gustaf (Garfield) was diagnosed with an incurable cat decease only seven months old. The vet put him to sleep today. Our other cat Tara might have it and she ought not to meet any cats for one to two years. Gustaf probably got it from his breeder. Gustaf was an adorable cat who liked to sit in the sun. http://www.osterlen.com/pug-sheps/catskatter.html He was a good mate of our oldest pug http://www.osterlen.com/pug-sheps/catshundokatt.html and we will miss him. Our other cat Tara already does. My wife is really sad. NP The Beatles, Strawberry Fields Forever, Anthology 2 ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 06:54:05 -0400 From: "M" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Is Good All Right? > Has Ferry given up so much control because it may be a means > by which he is able to by-step his apparent 'crippling > perfectionism' and produce 'new' work in a timely fashion? How about arthritis? M ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ A young New Yorker called M Was frequently seen with old men Described as fantastic She preferred lots of plastic Especially Barbie and Ken. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Accentuate the positive, eliminate the negative. ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 06:55:29 -0400 From: "M" Subject: [AVALON] Elegant art-rocker Bryan Ferry goes back to his first love -- Leadbelly From Jam! Showbiz: http://www.canoe.ca/JamMusic/jul11_ferry-sun.html Crooning the blues Elegant art-rocker Bryan Ferry goes back to his first love -- Leadbelly By JANE STEVENSON -- Toronto Sun Bryan Ferry admits he may not be the first person you would think of when it comes to singing earthy, raw blues and gritty folk music. But the perenially elegant British crooner and sometime frontman for art-rock veterans Roxy Music didn't hesitate in tackling both Leadbelly's Goodnight Irene and Don Nix's Goin' Down, as well as Bob Dylan's It's All Over Now, Baby Blue and Don't Think Twice, It's All Right, on his latest solo album, Frantic. "The Leadbelly song, which is the most simple one of all, that was one of the first songs I ever heard and that I remember," said the impeccably dressed Ferry, 56, seated in the Windsor Arms lounge yesterday while in Toronto on a promotional trip. "(Leadbelly) set me off on getting fascinated by American music. So I was a really early starter as a blues fan and then jazz, R&B, rock 'n' roll, everything really. Certainly I've been a blues fan forever but people wouldn't associate it naturally with me. I think it's a more straightforward, more earthy record than is normal for me." Frantic -- the followup to his 1999 album of '30s covers, As Time Goes By -- also found Ferry writing with old Roxy Music keyboardist Brian Eno on I Thought. Eno also stuck around to sing and play on another tune, Goddess Of Love, which was co-written with sometime Eurythmics guitarist Dave Stewart. VISIT TO ST. PETERSBURG "His wife was managing me for a year," explained Ferry of the Eno collaboration. "And I went to visit them in St. Petersburg, where they were living for six months, and the song just came from visiting them one weekend. Then I took it back to England and wrote the lyrics and then rerecorded it. And then he played on some of the other tracks as well. He likes working with me, I think. He's like, 'Oh, is there anything else to do? Can I sing on that?' And I'm like, 'Yeah, c'mon!' And he's a good laugh. As well as being very talented, he's very funny. He's funny with me anyway, and Dave Stewart's the same. He's also mad and eccentric. I tend to gather eccentrics around me, I think you could say." SONGS PART OF FERRY Speaking of which, Dylan has yet to comment on Ferry's treatment of his tunes. "I like doing them," Ferry said of the two Dylan tracks. "I have a lot of respect for them. I kind of love them, really. And if you feel that you like a song that much, then it becomes part of you." Stewart, who worked with Dylan, wound up contributing four songs to Frantic. He and Ferry met way back in the late '70s when Stewart's pre-Eurythmics band with Annie Lennox, The Tourists, opened for Roxy Music. "He'd tell me Bob stories," said Ferry of Stewart. "I'm sure he's very nice but I don't meet many people in my business, really. I spend so much time doing music that I like spending time with other people. You just kind of have a break from it. People always assume you all kind of live in a pack, but you don't." Ferry's latest solo tour will visit European music festivals first this summer before he begins a theatre tour in the fall, with a tentative Nov. 10 date at the Hummingbird Centre. He was inspired to hit the road again after 2001's highly successful Roxy Music reunion tour. "It was a great success. I mean everybody enjoyed it. The band loved it, I think. We had great audiences everywhere. Some of them were older people who had been there from the first record. And others had come for the first time from a different generation. It was a mixture. The excitement was great every night, really electrifying before you went on stage." ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 00:13:46 +1000 From: "Roy Slaven" Subject: Re: [AVALON] it's not allright >In this case, I am pretty sure economics dictated the song selection for >Monday's show. As the band is currently on a tour on the other side of >the Atlantic, certainly it was far more economical to fly only Mr. Ferry >and Colin to California for the performance. (Cheaper still would have >been to fly only Mr. Ferry, but somehow I can't see him rehearsing one of >his songs with another band.) > He may not do it today, but I'm pretty sure that on a promotional tour of Australia in the late 80's he performed "Kiss and Tell" on "The Don Lane Show" backed by the show's band. I recall them being surprisingly good and Bryan remarking on this. For Australian subscribers, I have no recollection of Bryan performing in duet with Bert, or being accompanined by the Tony Bartuccio dancers. That would be a dream come true. Roy. _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 10:31:44 -0400 From: KB Porter Subject: Re: [AVALON] Colin Good's contribution to Ferry's music "It seems to me Ferry is depressingly underrated as keyboard player." Yes, he is! And I find that rather odd. For here we have an accomplished songwriter, creative composer and arranger, who also is extremely adept on keyboards and harmonica, yet most people seem to focus on his 'good looks', his 'personal style', and his 'unique voice'! I feel there is so much more to Ferry than is readily apparent. The depth, breath, and complexity of his work serves as a vital substrate for what is presented, giving his work dimensions that are rarely heard/seen in the Pop world, which is what maintains my attention and interest in BF's work. Sometimes, it seems that Mr. Ferry tries to present himself as a simple kind of person/musician rather than the natural virtuoso that I perceive him to be! Perhaps, he does not fully realize just how bright and accomplished he is? He is so much more than a poster boy for a band. My enjoyment of Frantic comes in no small part because of Bryan Ferry's showcased harmonica playing. Since one can either play harmonica or the piano, live, at one time, I wonder if he is ever torn between which role he'd like to play. Colin Good is a fine and respectable keyboard player, and certainly he is earning his keep because there is a legitimate need served by his presence. However, I wonder how great his influence is with Ferry where creative decisions are made, and how any such influence is manifest in the things we hear and see from Ferry in concert and recorded mediums. "On 'Mamouna', Ferry played most of the keyboard tracks. IMHO, it's his most personal solo album, and the fact that he played so many keyboard lines on this material might have been one of the reasons for that." Christian, I've always felt "Mamouna" is highly personal - and that is why I love it. I like this album for many more reasons as well, but the fact that it seems to be such a genuine and heartfelt endeavor invested with great personal effort shouts volumes to me, endearing itself more than any other work of modern music that I own. "Mamouna" is firmly entrenched in my psyche. I do not hear the sinister whir lately. Is Neil Jones in hiding? Watch out, jogging in the park may be hazardous to one's health! Best wishes, KBP ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 10:51:41 -0400 From: KB Porter Subject: Re: [AVALON] Is Good All Right? [ > Has Ferry given up so much control because it may be a means > by which he is able to by-step his apparent 'crippling > perfectionism' and produce 'new' work in a timely fashion? How about arthritis? ] M! LOL! Maybe that is why he was shaking on Leno's show! ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 08:38:07 -0700 From: "David Firmin" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Elegant art-rocker Bryan Ferry... Tentative Nov. 10 date at the Hummingbird Centre, Toronto. Hope he can squeeze in an LA date. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "M" To: Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 3:55 AM Subject: [AVALON] Elegant art-rocker Bryan Ferry goes back to his first love -- Leadbelly > From Jam! Showbiz: > http://www.canoe.ca/JamMusic/jul11_ferry-sun.html *** ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 16:26:12 +0000 From: "David Nickel" Subject: [AVALON] Ferry story @ canoe.ca Fyi...Bryan Ferry story at Canoe.ca... http://www.canoe.ca/JamMusic/jul11_ferry-sun.html _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 19:03:04 +0100 From: "Mark Yates" Subject: Re: [AVALON] OT: Bowie in Denmark Hi Stefan Just got back from the Manchester show. He really blew me away. To start the show with Life on Mars was Fantastic, the entire show was outstanding, and for once in my life I managed to get right at the front. It don't get any better. Cheers. Mark. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "S Thomsen" To: Sent: Saturday, July 06, 2002 10:45 AM Subject: [AVALON] OT: Bowie in Denmark > Just got back from the David Bowie concert in Horsens, Denmark. > > If Bowie comes near your place, just one piece of advice: GO THERE!!! > That is just on hell of an experience. I have never seen or heard anything > better than this show. The sound, the mood, that voice and the crowds > reaction. It doesn't get better. > > Ferry/Roxy is a class act, but I have to say that the Bowie show is in a class > of its own. > > So, > take a second loan in your house, sell your furniture, sell your car, sell > anything you can spare and go to this concert! > > Pure magic!!!!! > > Stefan, Denmark > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 20:30:58 +0200 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: [AVALON] Let's stick together The Swedish film Klassfesten (The Reunion) http://us.imdb.com/Title?0297234 uses Bryan Ferry's Let's stick together on the soundtrack. Also included is David Bowie's Heroes as well as Swedish The Ark's Calleth you. cometh I (which is a track that most you would enjoy). PS Thanks for you condolances re Gustaf off list. NP The Ark's Calleth you. cometh I Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 12:54:26 -0700 From: "David Firmin" Subject: [AVALON] Project Eno Nine Boston-based musicians are recreating Eno's early rock period, taking songs from Warm Jets, Tiger Mountain, Before & After Science, and Another Green World and performing them live on July 12 at 608 (608 Somerville Ave, Somerville, MA). See this link: http://www.thenoise-boston.com/projecteno/ *** ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 17:34:04 -0400 From: "Maggie Curran" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Jay Leno - DTT the wrong song? Chris, I think you're absolutely correct about the DTTIAR on Jay Leno. But then on Jools Holland Later at home in London, he played Don't Think Twice and Goodnight Irene. Maybe we post the question on Bryan's web page? Cheers, Maggie >From: "Cassidy, Chris J (CCS)" >To: "'avalon@smoe.org'" >Subject: [AVALON] Jay Leno - DTT the wrong song? >Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 10:17:36 +0100 > >Perhaps it was simply down to the cost of taking the whole band as opposed >to just Bry and Col for a sub 5 mins slot? > >Chris > > > >Maggie C wrote "While Bryan did a good job with Don't Think Twice and > >while it was a pleasure for us to hear him in excellent voice, it was > >he wrong song. I can't see that the DTTIAR will win any new fans or > >sell copies of Frantic. I thought he might do Goddess Of Love; after > >all, he was in Hollywood! I don't understand. > >Cheers, >Maggie > > >___________________________________________________________________________ >To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon >Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 23:29:35 -0400 From: "Maggie Curran" Subject: [AVALON] Mr. Good's Influence Yesterday Colleen wrote that she thinks Colin Good is at the heart of the reasons many of us find Frantic unsatisfying. I think this is true. It was noted that ATGB album worked. Yes, because it was appealing thematically as an end of century tribute and because it had ONE song that we all loved..."I'm In The Mood For Love." Avalonians agreed that the concert stage ATGB was far superior to the album, owing largely to the lushness of the onstage sound mix. The stage ATGB concerts were visually and sonically elegant and romantic. Fast forward to Frantic album which does not quite have thematic cohesiveness. There is the cinematic sub-theme as expressed thru San Simeon, Hiroshima and Goddess of Love. One could argue that the album's theme is that of Lost Love, but how does Goin' Down and Baby Blue fit? I think my problem with the album is the lack of cohesive mood through- out. The only 2002 concert I've heard is the Belfast concert which is certainly wonderful to hear. But was that a true Frantic concert with only 3 songs from the album? JNHP/Fool For Love could easily become the masterwork of the Frantic concerts, provided JNHP is not omitted and depending upon the arrangement and visual presentation. We are understandably frustrated about the current setlist. We've come to expect a lush melodic framework for a Bryan Ferry album or concert. That is not present on DTT, Goodnight Irene, Goin' Down. We all know Bryan decides the songs to be included on an album/setlist. He has chosen to change the framework and style on Frantic. He has stated his reasoning. He wanted his voice to be heard and he wanted an edgier feel. Who am I to question why? Very important to comment on the strong critical reception given to Frantic by the media. Also we should note that Frantic had a strong early start in the charts. Recall that Virgin dropped Bowie...Bowie, of all people! The world of music is troubled and Bryan must find his way through all the confusion. The fact that he has performed at Festivals and Casinos prior to the tour proper is a new approach, though certainly his visibility during the Queen's Jubilee celebrations had to be career-enhancing. Now back to Colleen's point about Mr. Good. If CG recommended Bryan drop Love War and Alphaville in favor of the Dylan covers, then we have an issue. If it's all Bryan's choice, then we just love our artist anyway, despite our disappointment. On Frantic there are two songs of unsurpassable wonder IMO....JNHP/Fool For Love and I Thought. It would be heartbreaking if these two songs are not played on tour. It was noted before that the retro feel and mood of ATGB worked. We are not certain that Bryan's audience wants to hear subdued retro this time out. Maybe we just want to hear new material (Ferry's original) presented with sparkling imagination and beauty. Apologize for the long post, and remember, I may be wrong. Please feel free to disagree. Best regards, Maggie _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ___________________________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon Avalonians on tour 2002: http://helios.unive.it/~tcecilia/meetup.html ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V7 #234 **************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest