From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V7 #192 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Friday, June 7 2002 Volume 07 : Number 192 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [AVALON] Belfast 2002 CD Tree UPDATE!!! ["Simon Galloway" ] [AVALON] Bryan makes the most of a Ferry-tale setting ["M" ] [AVALON] Ferry in Edinburgh (1) - the secret's out ["Cassidy, Chris J (CC] [AVALON] Ferry in Edinburgh (2) - who are the inposters in the centre fron t rows? ["Cassidy, Chris J (CCS)" ] Re: [AVALON] Dee Dee Ramone dead ["Mark Yates" ] [AVALON] Nice people at... ["Helen Thorpe" ] [AVALON] DEFINITIVE answer to when is Roxy not Roxy ["M" Subject: [AVALON] Belfast 2002 CD Tree UPDATE!!! Thanks to all those that responded to my offer. The masters are on their way to a few people around the world, so look out for offers on the list soon! BTW, if anyone from Australia would like to volunteer their services to tree this CD, drop me a line off list. And here's what's on the CD: Bryan Ferry live at Belfast Castle, 4 June 2002 It's All Over Now Baby Blue Sign Of The Times Can't Let Go Fool For Love Oh Yeah Out Of The Blue Don't Think Twice It's Alright Both Ends Burning Dance Away A Hard Rain's A-Gonna Fall Love Is The Drug Virginia Plain Jealous Guy Let's Stick Together plus... live from 'Later... with Jools Holland' Don't Think Twice It's Alright Goodnight Irene SimonG ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 12:05:21 +0100 From: "Christian H. Soetemann" Subject: Re: [AVALON] When is Roxy not Roxy? - ---------- >Von: "Pete Seely" >An: >Betreff: [AVALON] When is Roxy not Roxy? >Datum: Mit, 5. Jun 2002 18:59 Uhr > >I agree with Aleks on all counts. Without Bryan Ferry, there is no Roxy >Music. As much as I love Paul, there was a Roxy Music, albeit a weaker one, >without him, and probably could be without Phil and Andy as well. I don't >think there could be Roxy without Bryan. That doesn't mean, however, that >Ferry IS Roxy, only that he's the most indispensable part. I would agree completely. To me, Roxy is best when Andy, Paul & Phil are co-present with Bryan, but I'm certain Ferry has got the rights to the Roxy name, and if he had been inclined, he could have released B&G as a Roxy album. That he didn't do so is a sign for artistic credibility, IMHO. There is a distinction between 'this line-up doesn't feature my favourite member_____!' (insert name) and the copyright to a group's name. It's similar to King Crimson, in a way: Robert Fripp has never embodied Crimson alone, but was the one and only member present during all its incarnations. Ferry in Roxy is even more dominant, as much of it seems to have been created in his head - without a collective ready at hand (Crimso started out as a four-piece right away). As far as I know, Ferry is the only member who plays on all Roxy tracks, though I don't know whether it's his Fender Rhodes on Your Application's Failed... Besides, the original line-up of Roxy seems to have been something like Ferry, Mackay, Eno & Graham Simpson (which Eno recalled as his most exciting time with Roxy), and Dexter Lloyd, Roger Bunn & David O'List passed through the ranks before TGPT and Manzanera were established in the line-up. So, Ferry of course isn't Roxy, but it's good to consider the background the group has emerged out of. Christian ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 06:40:40 -0400 From: "M" Subject: [AVALON] Article blurbs Portuguese blurb: http://dn.sapo.pt/noticia/noticia.asp?CodNoticia=48230&codEdicao=288&CodArea Noticia=13 Chartscan: http://www.chartattack.com/damn/2002/06/0509.cfm "Debuts this week come from the punkers NOFX whose 45 Or 46 Songs That Weren 't Good Enough To Go On Our Other Records is at #58 and Bryan Ferry, the Roxy Music crooner who creeps out an ex-Chart intern, coming in at #53. " Huh? M ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ A young New Yorker called M Was frequently seen with old men Described as fantastic She preferred lots of plastic Especially Barbie and Ken. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 06:43:18 -0400 From: "M" Subject: [AVALON] Bryan makes the most of a Ferry-tale setting There's a small picture of the stage from afar and all you can see are umbrellas. http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/story.jsp?story=302368 Bryan makes the most of a Ferry-tale setting By Neil McKay ON a drab, damp, chill night, Bryan Ferry was out on his own as the coolest man at Belfast Castle. Magnificent in an open neck white shirt, perfectly tailored black leather jacket and trousers, and deeply impressive tan, Ferry was every inch the sultan of smooth. And after an energetic hour-long set, simultaneously broadcast on BBC Radio 2 as part of their Music Live celebrations, all that was out of place was a fringe that - just occasionally - flopped down over his forehead. The effortless style extended to the three female backing vocalists, immaculate in matching white suits, the very epitome of understated glamour and elegance. If the setting made Ferry's first Belfast show memorable the music wasn't far behind. He's not the most natural of frontmen - he barely spoke, and a strange shuffling half dance and a few handclaps were about the extent of his stage movements - but he delivered exactly what the crowd wanted. These days, energised by last year's successful Roxy Music reunion, a live Ferry show is well drilled and finely honed, with an excellent eight piece band, including ace guitarists Chris Spedding and Mick Green. He dispensed with a few tracks from new album Frantic early on, before racing through a selection of greatest hits, more or less evenly split between his solo career and Roxy Music. He paid homage to Bob Dylan with three covers - set opener It's All Over Now, Baby Blue, an effective piano and harmonica version of Don't Think Twice, It's Alright, and a storming A Hard Rain's A Gonna Fall (and, right on cue, it did). The warmest reception was reserved for latter day Roxy hits like Oh Yeah, Dance Away and Jealous Guy, but the biggest surprise was the relish with which he tackled earlier Roxy songs. Out Of The Blue, Both Ends Burning and Love Is The Drug all sounded great, while Virginia Plain and sole encore Do The Strand are two of the most original pop songs to make the charts, as daring and fresh now as they were 30 years ago. Ferry's one concession to age - he's now a very sprightly 56 - seemed to be reading some lyrics from a stand in front of his mic. But, hey, even that was kind of cool. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 12:51:21 +0100 From: "Douglas Robertson" Subject: [AVALON] ROXY V FERRY ? Hi All What is Roxy Music ?. Surely the Roxy sound is a combination of various artists at different times (see vivaroxymusic.com for a full list}. With BF. PM. AM. TGPT. being the backbone of the sound over the years, with BE playing a main part early on, Last years Roxy tour was tremendous, Probably as close to most of the great originals that you could get, Surely then Chris Spedding, Lucy, Julia and Colin. Are All now part of the Great Roxy Music sound, Lucy and Julia helped make the sound perfect but it looks like they will never be accredited for playing on any Albums ?, only the Video/DVD of the tour. No new material for them. Shame. When Bryan tours and releases his own fantastic material, it to me varies far more than Roxy Material. When Bryan Covers Roxy songs ( which are mostly his work anyway) they tend to be good but only Roxy do them Great. Roxy are Roxy. in whatever guise or form, but without BF. PM & AM, it is not the same sound, And in my own case when TGPT plays Roxy are at there best. The Roxy sound could not be achieved with either BF, PM, or AM, missing. so surely they are Roxy Music. TGPT should also be in there but he missed out when Roxy recorded without him, in my mind foolishly because it was not the same. Alan ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 11:59:33 +0000 From: "Andrew Shearer" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Making Music Magazine (UK) There's a BF interview in this magazine which can usually be found for free in music shops in the UK. Not much new in there but he does say: "I don't really write very much these days. The process of writing becomes very much harder once you've written 50 or 60 songs. Besides I've been moving from one thing to the next after the last few years..." Also... Fortunately there's plenty in the can to return to when he gets off the road - - "There's plenty of unused stuff, thank God". I'll send a copy up to John and Chris when I get a moment. Regards, Andrew > _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 08:28:45 -0400 From: "Grant Goggans" Subject: [AVALON] Re: avalon-digest V7 #191 >Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 14:46:36 -0400 >From: "seely31" >Subject: [AVALON] Fw: Vienna Plain tree > (Pete's rules include:) > >4. be a person who is pure of heart, with malice toward none Well, that's me out. Who's doing the tree for us blackhearted villains? - --Grant _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 08:40:00 -0400 From: "Grant Goggans" Subject: Re: [AVALON] When is Roxy not Roxy? >Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 16:23:18 EDT >From: OBrienFerry@AOL.COM >Subject: [AVALON] When is Roxy not Roxy? > >(snip) >If Ferry needed to rest his voice every so often he could do something like >Love Me Madly Again with its long instrumental passage. which would lend >itself to Lucy's violin playing. That's a really good idea. Alternately, I wish Bry was bold enough to try and rearrange something like "Slave to Love" into a live version of its extended mix. Or put me in seventh heaven with the long Brooklyn mix of "Limbo." - --Grant _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 09:12:31 -0400 From: KB Porter Subject: Re: [AVALON] Ferry on US radio [[ From: thom.wallace >> Is it that I live in a state >> populated with mostly tasteless radio listeners? > Certainly looks like it, only kidding. Actually, you're correct Tom; tasteless radio programmers too. Judy ]] Really, you both are right - I gave up eating programmers and listeners a while ago. They just tasted ssooo yuck! ;^) ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 14:34:06 +0100 From: "Cassidy, Chris J (CCS)" Subject: [AVALON] Ferry in Edinburgh (1) - the secret's out Hi Everyone, All good things as they say come to an end and we're 'just' back from our 'second honeymoon' as Alan (Douglas Robertson) dubbed it. A few short and sweet belated recollections of the weekend .......... Friday 31 May. After a very quick flight from Birmingham International, we arrived at our Hotel in the beautiful City of Edinburgh at about 10.30am. With little under 36 hrs of a 3 month strategic operation remaining, the $64000 question was, could I get Mrs C (Sharon) to Princes St. Gardens on Saturday evening none the wiser as to what strange delights were in the offing? The answer was an emphatic 'No'. Less than 30 seconds after leaving the hotel, Sharon spotted the wall of Jubilee Concert posters on a shop front (despite my vain efforts to divert her attention to the stunning gothic qualities of the surrounding architecture) and the main reason for choosing Edinburgh for our long weekend break was finally out of the bag. Before then however, there was at least a thousand years of Scottish history to catch up on and what better place to start than a gentle stroll along the Royal Mile which is actually one and a half miles long according to the Bar Manager at our hotel. If one suffers with ear wax I can certainly recommend the firing of the gun in the Castle at 1pm which is far more efficient and slightly less painful than syringing! Holyrood Palace and the Royal Yacht Britannia are also certainly worth a visit (blimey I sound like a staunch Royalist!) as are the variety of inexpensive restaurants in the Grassmarket area. The rest of Friday and Saturday were spent soaking up the sumptious surroundings and partaking of the the odd Capo and Beer or three - and not one drop of rain. Not that I felt I was merely killing time, but Sat. evening eventually arrived and it was time to get ready for the main event. However, we arrived to find the ultimate audacity - we'd been given appalling seats to the extreme left of the stage! So of course we had no option but to immediately launch 'Operation storm centre stage'. To add to the insult the chalk covered plastic 'chairs' (the local council must have been relying on a good down-pour to clean them) caused a momentary sartorial crisis with my favourite black jacket now resembling an Ice-Cream salesman's coat. I should of course have taken the advice of Mrs C on this occasion and worn jeans and t-shirt - I'll know better next time, won't I (probably not - old habits die hard)? With not an Avalonian in sight at this point, I was beginning to wonder if I was in the right venue, I mean surely Reecey, Jocelyn, Chris T and J O'B should now be in pole position, having been carried in super-glued to the front row of seats by the Ferry road-crew? to be continued.... ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 14:38:40 +0100 From: "Cassidy, Chris J (CCS)" Subject: [AVALON] Ferry in Edinburgh (2) - who are the inposters in the centre fron t rows? Suddenly, out of the blue, I spotted Alan (thanks again for the fantastic Frantic 'Avalonians on Tour' badges mate!) and the tanned Diane Whateley walking towards our section and by an uncanny and strange coincidence they were sitting on the same row, Diane in fact in the seat next to me. It appeared that the centre front 10 rows or so were reserved for the Corporate big-wigs? hence no Avalonians in sight. Eventually Alan and Diane wandered down to the front closely followed by yours truly and Mrs C - would you believe it just as the band took the stage - what good fortune! As I mentioned, immediately behind us in the first ten rows or so of the centre block were what appeared to be Edinburgh's equivalent of the 'prawn sandwich' brigade, who proceeded to sit for the entire concert like rows of frozen rabbits as if in the glare of the stage lights. As Billy Connelly once said " I've seen more life in a tramp's vest". They must have wondered what the hell had hit them when 'Sign of the Times' and 'Can't Let Go' et al were unleashed. As has been more than covered by others, the set was the same as the recent Danish shows with the addition of VP. But this was really a set of highlights, even the likes of Love is the Drug and Jealous Guy sounded fresh, in fact the latter just gets strangely more awesome every time I hear it. Ferry concerts are never 'quite' long enough though are they? ( Nor for me, loud enough - I always feel like shouting "turn it up"). Part of the 'problem' I believe is having advance knowledge of the set and however one tries not to, the inevitable mental count-down to the end. In fact a guy next to me had a copy of the Danish sets off John O'Brien's site 'VivaRoxyMusic' and was ticking them off! The main disadvantage with being right against the stage is that obviously a lot of the sound goes past you and you get a kind of semi-acoustic set instead. I reckon about 10 rows back centre is probably the best sound-wise. This was confirmed later by Reecey who had sat further back for this particular show instead of his usual 'reserved' position. A few minor observations from the show. (The Great as BF referred) PT, Colin Good, Lucy and Julia were in their Roxy positions with CS, Mark Smith and Mick Green centre stage behind Ferry. The backing singers were to Ferry's right in sparkling white. CS was his usual smiling self as was CG, JF and LW. MS looked a bit unsure of himself and in complete contrast to CS, Mick Green grinned like a cheshire cat from start to finish. Perhaps my memory's playing tricks but I can't recall one obvious major contribution from Mick which was disappointing as I was expecting some kind of guitar extravaganza for some strange reason. The 'Sax' player - can't recall his name sorry - seemed fairly low key but competent nonetheless. There were a few minor hiccoughs but overall they gelled very well with there being very much an overall band feel, rather than a series of virtuoso performances. I did notice that all the guitarists were doing a fair amount of sight reading throughout the show as they obviously get to grips with the set, as was BF of course (re. the lyrics). But it certainly bodes well for the Autumn 'Frantic' shows. to be continued....... ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 14:46:32 +0100 From: "Cassidy, Chris J (CCS)" Subject: [AVALON] Ferry in Edinburgh (3) - prepare to meet thy Dome We retired afterwards to the Dome on George Street, Edinburgh's most elegant shopping area. A certain amount of skullduggery appeared to be going on at the entrance to this former Bank with Reecey and Alan performing some kind of strange Scottish masonic footwear exchange. I understand Reecey's 'shoes' had to be smuggled in under canvas, whilst Alan did an excellent impersonation of Sandie Shaw for most of the evening. Eventually however we all got in and got a drink - first one never touched the sides (I say all, quite a few who I thought may have been there weren't for whatever reason which was a shame and inadvertently one or two people may not have made it due to a misunderstanding as to the agreed meeting place). It was great to be able to totally relax with a group of like-minded people and chew the Roxy/Ferry fat and to also meet a number of Avalonians for the first time, namely the charming Therese O'donnell, her brother Raymond and Duncan Watkins. There was the odd divergence into other important matters such as the forthcoming Premiership season and I learned some strange new Geordie language when I suggested to Jocelyn that the Baggies would only need 34 points to survive, 6 easy ones coming courtesy of the Toon! Having missed Mad Affair 1 due to a family holiday, I'm certainly looking forward to making MAD2 whenever it can be arranged and hopefully in the preferred location - thanks to Reecey particularly and the 'Committee' for all their sterling work in this direction. Sharon and I really enjoyed the after show get together and would like to thank everyone present (you Cats know who you are) for making it a memorable night and for your delightful company. It's only a shame it couldn't have gone on longer but unlike ourselves most had to make tracks to various exotic places such as Carlisle - - still, next time, will be the best time. After eventually being ejected at about 1.30am, hunger suddenly set in and with no Balti Houses within staggering distance, we were directed to one of Edinburgh's finest restaurants - McDonalds - where else? The McHaggis was sensational - try one if you're ever in Scotland. We then bade our farewells and played 'dodge a drunk' on the way back to the hotel. A great day and weekend - we definitely 'did the Strand' - Scottish style! ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: 6 Jun 2002 15:47:15 -0000 From: roxylia@freemail.it Subject: [AVALON] meeting (or avoiding) fellow avalonians on tour...... ....the subject is meant to be a tribute to the previous meet-up page, made by David last year. The new page is online at http://web.tiscali.it/cecilya/roxy/meetup.html and I will lead it (work in progress). Anybody wishing to be added feel free to contact me (off list). As Jane suggested, I will try to co-ordinate ticket sales, adding for each gig the person who's got the extra-ticket and his/her email address, so that he/she can be contacted directly off list. Dear Avalonians, I wish you all a great time at Bryan's concerts. Cecilia ~~~~~~~~~~ But marriages made in heaven Can they survive in this life? - ----------------------------------------------------- Compra e vendi su eBay: registrati gratis! http://www.ebay.it/registrazione.html messaggio inviato con Freemail by www.superEva.it - ----------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 11:59:51 -0400 From: "Arnold Schulberg" Subject: RE: [AVALON] meeting (or avoiding) fellow avalonians on tour...... Okay, Cecilia, since you're in charge, can you arrange those US dates we so desparately want? :-) Don't forget the two night stand in Charleston, West Virginia! Arnie - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org]On Behalf Of roxylia@freemail.it Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 11:47 AM To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: [AVALON] meeting (or avoiding) fellow avalonians on tour...... ....the subject is meant to be a tribute to the previous meet-up page, made by David last year. The new page is online at http://web.tiscali.it/cecilya/roxy/meetup.html and I will lead it (work in progress). Anybody wishing to be added feel free to contact me (off list). As Jane suggested, I will try to co-ordinate ticket sales, adding for each gig the person who's got the extra-ticket and his/her email address, so that he/she can be contacted directly off list. Dear Avalonians, I wish you all a great time at Bryan's concerts. Cecilia ~~~~~~~~~~ But marriages made in heaven Can they survive in this life? - ----------------------------------------------------- Compra e vendi su eBay: registrati gratis! http://www.ebay.it/registrazione.html messaggio inviato con Freemail by www.superEva.it - ----------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 18:44:03 +0200 From: "kartor@libertysurf.fr" Subject: [AVALON] Brian Eno on ARTE TV 14/06 Hi! a special program based on Brian Eno will be broadcast on ARTE TV, 14th of June, at 11.10PM (local time).In this program, we will see Brian working and speaking about his work, described by him as nearer to abstract Art than pop music..I think it will be a really "post Roxy" program... Caroline from Paris - -------------- Profitez de l'offre exceptionnelle Tiscali ! "Internet Gratuit le Jour" Cliquez ici, http://register.tiscali.fr/forfaits_ls/ Offre soumise ` conditions. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 12:51:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Colleen Matan Subject: Re: [AVALON] meeting (or avoiding) fellow avalonians on tour...... On 6 Jun 2002 roxylia@freemail.it wrote: > ....the subject is meant to be a tribute to the previous meet-up page, > made by David last year. > > The new page is online at > http://web.tiscali.it/cecilya/roxy/meetup.html > and I will lead it (work in progress). > Anybody wishing to be added feel free to contact me (off list). Many, many thanks to both Cecilia and to David for their efforts on these projects! Colleen ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 16:14:12 -0500 From: "paula brown" Subject: [AVALON] Dee Dee Ramone dead Sorry if this is too off topic for anyone, but I just heard DeeDee Ramone is dead. I don't know the details yet, sorry. ~ I moved to Dallas in 1977, and my very first night in town, DeeDee was hanging out at the popular rock spot, to my amazement. My journal says "I introduced myself to him and he seemed not to give a s**t, but that didn't stop him from bumming cigarettes from me all night." DeeDee continued to bum cigarettes from me over the next two years when they were in Dallas. I finished an interview for someone who got sick one night, with Joey, and I sat in front of the Ramones at the Dallas premier of Rock N Roll High School and listened to them watch the movie and see themselves "act" for the first time. It was quite memorable. They're one of the only two punky groups I still like to listen to, the other being Iggy. Sad ta see ya go. Paula ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 23:08:48 +0100 From: "Mark Yates" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Dee Dee Ramone dead It's a sad time Paula. I remember the Ramones form the seventies with great affection, got to see them twice in concert, "Good Times" Mark - ----- Original Message ----- From: "paula brown" To: Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 10:14 PM Subject: [AVALON] Dee Dee Ramone dead > Sorry if this is too off topic for anyone, but I just heard DeeDee Ramone > is dead. I don't know the details yet, sorry. > ~ I moved to Dallas in 1977, and my very first night in town, DeeDee was > hanging out at the popular rock spot, to my amazement. My journal says "I > introduced myself to him and he seemed not to give a s**t, but that didn't > stop him from bumming cigarettes from me all night." DeeDee continued to bum > cigarettes from me over the next two years when they were in Dallas. I > finished an interview for someone who got sick one night, with Joey, and I sat > in front of the Ramones at the Dallas premier of Rock N Roll High School and > listened to them watch the movie and see themselves "act" for the first time. > It was quite memorable. They're one of the only two punky groups I still like > to listen to, the other being Iggy. Sad ta see ya go. > > Paula > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 20:45:03 -0400 From: "tmoq" Subject: [AVALON] OT: U.K. Bootleg For anyone interested, a U.K. bootleg from a 1/9/78 Cleveland show has been posted on the news group alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.bootlegs. Gene ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 22:38:04 -0400 From: "Helen Thorpe" Subject: [AVALON] Nice people at... Just to let y'all know - my buddy visiting the UK rented (yes - rented) a DVD of Die Hard - brought it back over here (Canada) and we played it in our computers's DVD ROMs. No problem. Jim was on a return flight to the UK 4 days later, with only 2 pounds in rental fees for our troubles! My computer is a Pentium 4, with 512MB RAM and a generic DVD player, 32MB Video RAM and a 19" flatscreen Trinitron monitor. Jim (my mad fool friend) runs a Pentium 2 and vastly reduced memory and things still worked fine in his computer - God knows how he makes a DVD work in that relic, though! Now point me in the direction of the Hammy DVD! ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 23:22:39 -0400 From: "M" Subject: [AVALON] DEFINITIVE answer to when is Roxy not Roxy SPOOF ALERT! Don't have enough time to keep working on this. M Roxy Music: Not Flesh + Blood! By M England - A middle-aged inventor named Mr. Creevy finally revealed that he has built numerous androids who have masqueraded as real human beings. His most accomplished achievement was the creation of the Roxy Music androids. Fans worldwide were shocked to learn the news about their beloved band. Mr. Creevy issued the following statement: "I had to tell the truth about Roxy Music. For one thing, I'll be retiring the 'Ferry' android soon. He's had a long productive life and Frantic is his last album. More importantly, I visited websites, message boards and mailing lists and fans were taking things too seriously. I found it highly amusing when they argued about who was the soul of the band, the defining member of Roxy Music. Quite honestly, the band has no soul. They're just heaps of metal and wires. The whole thing came from my imagination." "As a boy, I loved watching any sort of science fiction show and read every sci-fi book I could get my hands on. It pushed the boundaries of the imagination, took me to incredible places in time and space. Anything and everything was possible. I especially loved anything that had to do with robots. I adored Asimov's Robot series and believed that it was possible. I was very good with mechanical things and I began to tinker around with gadgets. As I got older, I was making robots. My biggest challenge was to create life-like androids. I had a lot of failures but eventually, I was successful. They could mimic human emotions and pass as real people physically. Being an avid music fan, I decided to create a rock band, one that would be different from what was around. My sister loved style and fashion so she designed their initial look. I hired songwriters to write the music for the band and for the members as they moved on with their solo careers." "My father, heaven bless his soul, was quite dapper so I modeled the lead singer after him. The others were based on aspects of myself, relatives and friends. The 'Eno' surpassed my expectations by becoming self-aware and developing its own consciousness. It is its own unique life form. Unfortunately, it quit the band and pursued its own interests and I was never able to inspect it again or conduct any research on it. There were some malfunctions with a few of the androids when I was testing new ideas so that's why some of the band members changed. The 'Ferry' model has run the smoothest and I've made modifications over the years. It reacts well to grease which I apply to its hair for maximum absorption. I had to create mates and offspring for the androids so that they would simulate the natural progression of life. It has been challenging to make all of them age gradually but it keeps me on my toes. It's been a rewarding experience. I've seen my childhood fantasies come true and the androids were more successful than I could ever have imagined. They became fully integrated in society and successful 'musicians.' They were influential and groundbreaking in many ways." "I won't say who my other projects are or it could start a widespread panic if people knew too much of the truth. However, I wanted to apologize to the Roxy fans. I hope you're not too disappointed." ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 22:28:43 -0500 From: "Judy Kaufman" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Ferry on US radio From: KB Porter > I gave up eating programmers and listeners a while ago. > They just tasted ssooo yuck! Next time, KB, try a bit of cheese & salsa. Yummy. J. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 03:57:04 EDT From: Chandla911@AOL.COM Subject: [AVALON] Re: avalon-digest V7 #191 Aleks Kocan said: "Just my opinion..but... Roxy to me were Bryan, Andy, Phil and Paul T." Well, if you want MY opinion, you can have it. I may be in a minority, let's face it, I know I certainly AM in a minority, but to me Roxy Music are Bryan, Andy, Phil, Paul T and ENO. I know there are some very charitable people on this list who think that Eddie Jobson's three albums more than outweigh the input by Eno on his two. But they're wrong. As wonderful as Stranded, Country Life and Siren are, Roxy were always trying to sound as hip as they'd done before after Eno left. He balanced Bryan Ferry perfectly (quite literally when they played live on opposite sides of the stage) and was impossible to replace. Of course, after Jobson had left, that side of things was never the same again, so credit must be given to Eddie. But Eno was a fifth of the stamp that ran through Roxy's sticky pink rock and all line-ups that followed were pale imitations. That said, in a climate of boybands and girlbands and boy/girlbands (oh! the imagination of today's musical climate), the Roxy triumvirate or post-fab four are more than a match for any other act on the 'live' circuit. Best wishes Richard Mills n/p Carmine Meo - Emma Shappelin ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V7 #192 **************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest