From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V7 #153 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Thursday, May 2 2002 Volume 07 : Number 153 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [AVALON] 3 Questions, and oh so much more. ["anotherphotographer" ] [AVALON] Fw: FW: Do This! Its hysterical!! It works!! - ["anotherphotogra] Re: [AVALON] Radio Frantic ["Ed Stobbelaar" ] Re: [AVALON] Frantic - almost!!! [Colleen Matan ] [AVALON] Record Buyer [David Firmin ] [AVALON] Roxy Music/Sharks ["Duncan Watkins" ] Re: [AVALON] Baby Blue at TOTP2 ["Philip Adams" ] [AVALON]   ["" ] Re: [AVALON] Frantic - almost!!! ["Pete Seely" ] [AVALON] PLEASE TRIM YOUR POSTS! [Colleen Matan ] [AVALON] "The Girls Perform" ["Grant Goggans" ] [AVALON] The Irish Independent [David Firmin ] To leave the list, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon-digest ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 18:12:55 +0100 From: "anotherphotographer" Subject: Re: [AVALON] 3 Questions, and oh so much more. It's my birthday today! Bry' on the box (I hope TOP2) New album, Monday Tickets for Manchester NICE!!!! N.P. Cry - Johnnie Ray "If your sweetheart sends a letter of goodbye It's no secret you'll fe . . . (joking!)" regards a little older young ernie - ----- Original Message ----- From: "KB Porter" To: Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 2:07 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] 3 Questions, and oh so much more. > Hello! I'm catching up with the world of Avalon. > > Thus far: > > Happy Belated Birthday to Colleen, and Happy Premature > Birthday to John O'Brien, and 2HB2 all other Avillers out > there. [(also happy birthday to) pencil that in for fun.] > > Thank you, M, for the delightful intrigue of BF foiled - > once more - by the silver suit. A tragically cut figure > indeed! > > Dear Terry "O": Have any answers been offered for your > interesting questions? -Especially number three, "As > Musical Director was it Colin that got Bryan to put the > Horoscope/Frantic/Box Set et all things on hold and > instigated the ATGB album & tour?"? Please share any > details. > > Fair Simon: "red ruby lips, child bearing hips"! Yes, > something like an answer to "Pretty Woman" - Lord have mercy > - saddle shoes I like, but trash the poodle skirts. And, > yes, you do not have to make up your mind yet. The disk > will be there for further impressions. Enjoy at your > leisure. > > Bahi, as always, your thoughts make me mindful of the high > caliber of mental dexterity resident on Alist via > individuals such as yourself. Ferry and movies - do you > think his late night hours are spent with the VCR and a > cupboard full of black and whites? Nobody's perfect - > another Misfit for Ms. Monroe? Please, if you are able and > willing to share the missing words to "Nobody Loves Me", I'd > love to know them, too! Surely they can not be, 'Fate is in > my hand. Faye, I'll be your man. Go, express train - run > off the rails. Done away by Dior tales.' :) > > What's this? Four announced dates in Brazil? - didn't know > Mr. Ferry was keen on Portuguese (or is it the other way > around) - anyway, is he multi-lingual? Settle down Paula > Brown - that is not a reference to surging hormonal > activity. Like a moth to the flame, you don't stand a > chance with Katie in assistance! Sorry if that seems harsh > - but sometimes you've got to accept that you and at least > one hundred and one more ladies lie in wait for their Lord. > It is no wonder to me that Bryan Ferry is world weary. But, > I bet there are many more women in Brazil that would rather > be with Ayrton Senna - if he were still alive - God rest his > soul, the day that F-1 died. > > Irena S, your work colleagues sound like good friends. You > are very fortunate those around you enjoy and appreciate > your presence, AND are not shy to let you know how they feel > about you! Very fortunate. Now, Irena, my haphazard stab > at the three most important things in Bryan Ferry's world - > Life. Liberty. And the pursuit of Happiness? Do I win a > prize? OK, I'll settle for some white light. > > Kamaya, kindred spirit, keynotes my sentiment for the > upcoming tour: "There were big ads for Frantic in all the > Sunday papers today so heres hoping for sales to encourage > tour activity here!!" Folks, a vote with your dollars will > sweeten the pot for a North American leg! - Money talks, > bullshit walks. > > "Remember me?" Of course, Laura! Have you been doing well > at school? Are your parents ready to let you spend concert > nights out with web-found Avies, yet? You could do worse - > you know. Take care, and good luck on your exams. > > Ignacio! You Must Attend At Least One Ferry Concert This > Upcoming Tour! I still think your review from the Roxy > reformed tour was as top as notch can be! When I read the > tour roster I was sure you'd be willing to write another gem > for our pleasure - you must! > > John, nice picks - "True To Life" or "Day For Night" - as > piano/vocal tour choices. I think "The 39 Steps" or > "Midnight Train" would do nicely, too. > > BTW, thanks to all individuals who have carefully brought > Avalon List information about "Frantic" and its ensuing > tour. Viva, Bryan Ferry! And, "Frantic" is no swan song. > It hopes to generate new fans (who are crucial) to sustain > this phase of his career and upon which to build the next. > Finally, the market machine may have done some things > correctly this time. > > Welcome, Glenn Svendsen! I hope you enjoy your time spent > with Avalon List. - A more diverse group of people you will > not find elsewhere! Thanks to Chris for the updates. (Do > you ever sleep?) > > Mr Avalon, I have it on not so reliable word that Ferry is > expected to revisit 'Thee Salon' on April Fifth 2004 - for > his quadrennial eyebrow waxing! Oh, the pain of it all! > I'm sure he will enjoy it. > > Well, as absent as I have been, this is as up to date as I > am feeling. Forgive the ramble. But as I must sashay away, > another installment, another day. Still haven't recovered > "Another Time Another Place", perhaps tomorrow. > > Best wishes to all, and to all, a good May First. > > KBP > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 12:15:17 +0100 From: "Christian H. Soetemann" Subject: [AVALON] Ferry interview on VIVA On Tuesday, I zapped through several TV channels and suddenly discovered Ferry giving an interview on VIVA Germany, featured in 'Interaktiv', which is hosted by a young, eccentric woman called Charlotte Roche. I must have missed about 20 minutes (25 or so if you include commercials), but managed to record about 20 to 25 minutes. They showed Re-make/Re-model (billed as VP...) and JG. Ferry was in good shape, quite witty and charming as ever. Has anybody recorded the complete interview - sadly, it wasn't repeated later in the evening. Christian NP: Aimee Mann - Satellite ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 08:31:26 -0400 From: Chandla911@AOL.COM Subject: [AVALON] Common sense ticket selling/theatre dressing - long mail >From: "Helen Thorpe" >I just dropped by www.gigsandtours.com to see how ticket >sales were going for Newcastle on Oct 22. The sooner they >sell out, the better, I hear from the box office. >Travelling as a single person, I clicked off "1" in the >seats required box. And up came a little box to tell me that >single seats were unavailable in that section (Rear Stalls, >Centre) - but I could get 2 seats in the same section. >What's with that? Anyone know why? >Reecey, do you have any insight on this side of the business? I'm not Reecey, but I think I know the answer. The theatre management have to consider when they sell tickets how to sell the remaining seats. So, for instance, if there were two tickets on the end of a row, they would not offer one (to a buyer of one ticket) there in that row when they could sell one seat leaving, say, two or four elsewhere. Therefore in the case of the box, they would be reluctant to sell one seat because it means they can ONLY sell one ticket remaining to any other buyers. Most people go to shows in the company of at least one other person most of the time, so there will be more takers for a pair of box seats than just one lone seat. Similarly, if demand for a show is poor, it is not uncommon for management to declare whole rows or sections unavailable, so they can sell tickets across a theatre auditorium and represent a goodish crowd on the night rather than have everyone in the first five rows with 25 rows embarrassingly empty. How well this works is an art in theatre management. Often Wembley Arena will have entire blocks of red seats empty which are covered in black tarpaulin material to hide tha fact that artists disn't sell/promoters didn't market/tour managers didn't select the right venue. The Shepherds Bush Empire and the Town & Country will often not sell upstairs tickets until the downstairs area is sold, in order to do the exact opposite and concentrate the audience in one area. Only then, they sell the first tier and work upwards through the theatre. It's a matter of opinion whether this is a good idea or not. I do not believe I am alone (although I know a fair number of Avalonians disagree with me) in preferring a seat upstairs for some gigs to a standing downstairs ticket. By not selling seated tickets until downstairs is sold out, the theatre obliges me to keep ringing daily until the green light is on for upstairs while still getting lower seats than will go on sale further up in higher tiers. Is that fair? At the end of the day, the theatres think they know what they are doing. Sometimes they do. I went to the New To Q concert on Monday (Tom McRae, Mull Historical Society, Josh Rouse, Ben Christophers, Gemma Hayes) and it was embarrasing. People in tiers 2 and 3 were ushered downstairs to an empty tier 1, because sales had been so poor (just wait for Q reviews describing the venue as "bursting at the seams"!). For what was basically an acoustic night (some four and a half hours), i would not wish to be standing downstairs all that time and the music is not always danceable/dance music. I was happy to be upstairs on this occasion, but for Low (for example) they are currently selling two tickets for the price of one (at the same venue), but they are not offering people the choice of where they sit (they are ONLY selling standing tickets). Back to Helen's point, find an Avalonian (or AN Other) to go with and you will get two box seats quite easily. Go alone and be prepared to be less picky where you sit. It's a question of economics and the theatre box office has all the aces (they just don't always know how to play them). Best wishes Richard Mills n/p Back To Mine - Everything But The Girl ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 13:41:38 +0100 From: "terrypaulrigz8c" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Common sense ticket selling/theatre dressing - long mail - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 1:31 PM Subject: [AVALON] Common sense ticket selling/theatre dressing - long mail > I'm not Reecey, but I think I know the answer. > Best wishes > Richard Mills > > n/p Back To Mine - Everything But The Girl > Good piece Richard! Terry "O" NP: Nobody Loves Me. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 15:51:52 +0100 From: "Nigel Hollis" Subject: [AVALON] England/Sweden/Freindly Pub Duncan wrote :- Anyone know of a nice friendly pub in the town to watch the match? -joke! No! I will be hiding under the duvet in a little local B&B which I made sure has got a telly!! What's the quickest way to the border? Obviously you expect an Ingurlund result - would you like to borrow my CD route planner? N. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 17:28:09 +0200 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: Re: [AVALON] England/Sweden/Freindly Pub At 15.51 +0100 2-05-02, Nigel Hollis wrote: >Obviously you expect an Ingurlund result ... Could you explain what that is, please? I know of footballer Klas Ingesson... Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 18:17:41 +0100 From: "Mark Yates" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Frantic - almost!!! No I didn't misunderstand . Do you understand the meaning of irony?. I'm not going to argue about this.. You strike me as the kind of person who's glass is always half empty. Where as mine is always half full. Your strike me as one of those people that have always got a grip or two.........with not real substance. your like the Bowie lot I write with........There's always one or two complaining about the new work.....always expecting another "Hunky Dory" but of course there will never be another so they GRIP AND MOAN. JUST LIKE YOU and don't dare jump to conclusions.....did I say anything about Thompson..........No!!!!! I think he is one of the greatest drummers I have seen. and he had the good sense to leave the band when the decided to produce such crap as Flesh and Blood. And if Ferry wants to experiment with different styles of music or vocals ....so be it.........you don't have to buy it. Why don't you give the guy a break.. get of his back. some people are never satisfied....... Mark - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pete Seely" To: "Mark Yates" ; Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 1:32 AM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Frantic - almost!!! > Mark, > > I guess you did misunderstand me. I do think Frantic is a giant step > forward. But to compare Frantic, the best thing Ferry has done IMHO since In > Your Mind, with Flesh and Blood, doesn't make much sense to me. It compares > arguably one of Ferry's best works with what in my opinion is the worst Roxy > release. Point being, if you want to compare Ferry's work with Roxy, at > least compare apples with apples. If we want apples and oranges, let's > compare, say, For Your Pleasure with Boys and Girls. In my opinion, no > comparison there, either. > > I respect Ferry's ability to change, but when you say he has more "freedom" > on his own, well, I think it's a bit ironic that while he has all this > freedom he mixes everything, including his own vocals, in these dense, muddy > mixes (I would direct you especially to Bete Noire, Taxi, and Mamouna). > That's what is so refreshing about Frantic-Ferry doesn't give in to his > inclinations to have the thick, dense textures. > > Spedding over Manzanera? Nah. But whatever floats your boat. And I'd > certainly take The Great Paul Thompson over any of Ferry's drummers. > > Pete > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark Yates" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 7:00 PM > Subject: Re: [AVALON] Frantic - almost!!! > > > > I must have misunderstood you Pete. I thought you wrote that FRANTIC was a > > step forward, I understood that to be a positive statement.....but it > seems > > you would have preferred him to take a GIANT <30 year> STEP BACK. > > You also wrote that it could do with a "Hefty dose of Roxy" well its got > > Thompson, Eno and Ferry on it. just how much Roxy do you want. > > I spent the later part of the seventies saying "wouldn't it be great if > Roxy > > would get back together if only for one Album" > > and I spent the first half of the Eighties saying "NO NO NO no more" your > > better on your own Ferry. > > It's 2002 Pete........."wake up and smell the roses" > > P.s Give me Spedding over Manzanera any day. > > Mark > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Pete Seely" > > To: > > Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 2:05 AM > > Subject: Re: [AVALON] Frantic - almost!!! > > > > > > > What a fallacious argument: comparing Frantic with Flesh and Blood! > > > Of course, that particular comparison is valid, but compare the first > four > > > Roxy albums with Bete Noire or Boys and Girls or Taxi. No contest, > > either! > > > Why would anyone take a bunch of studio hacks as a "band" over Roxy? > > > > > > Pete S. > > > > > > > > > Original Message ----- > > > From: "Mark Yates" > > > To: > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 6:47 PM > > > Subject: Re: [AVALON] Frantic - almost!!! > > > > > > > > > > I gotta disagree with you Richard.......I think the last thing it > needs > > is > > > a > > > > dose of Roxy.. > > > > In fact the album is perfect...Ferry without Roxy has so much more > > freedom > > > > of expression.... without having to take the other >band > > > > members into account. I'm not knocking Roxy but lets face it > .......his > > > solo > > > > work since 75 has been far superior to the last three Roxy > > > albums.......just > > > > compare Frantic with Flesh and Blood.........No contest. > > > > Mark. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: > > > > To: > > > > Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 8:27 PM > > > > Subject: [AVALON] Frantic - almost!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > Frantic is a massive step forward for Bryan. As much as I loved the > > > > > soundscapes of Taxi and Mamouna. Its good to hear his voice against > > > > > songs that have a beat again. > > > > > > > > > > That said it sounds like a collection of ad hoc recordings stuck on > > one > > > > > disc. There is no real dicernable feel to the whole thing. It might > > have > > > > > been better to re-record the lot with one consistent set of > musicians. > > > > > > > > > > It is however the nest of his later solo work. I Thought is great > and > > > > > sounds like Bryan putting a vocals over a track from Warm Jets. > > > > > > > > > > Goddess and San Simeon also stand out, but the rest is average at > > best. > > > > > > > > > > Overall it sounds as though it could do with a hefty dose of Roxy. > > > > > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > > > > > > Richard > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > > > > > The subliminable footer says: > > > > > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > > > > > unsubscribe avalon > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > > > > The subliminable footer says: > > > > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > > > > unsubscribe avalon > > > > > > > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > > > The subliminable footer says: > > > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > > > unsubscribe avalon > > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > > The subliminable footer says: > > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > > unsubscribe avalon > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 19:58:21 +0200 From: "Jimbo" Subject: [AVALON] Radio Frantic Hello, it's a great one this Frantic. I have the same feelings with it as with the release of Siren. 19 years old, very sick and my mother to town to get Siren. Frantic can be a huge commercial success also I think. Only one prob there, how to get it played on the radio. May be an idea there. I have a friend who works at a local radio station. And he has a live show there. Artists are coming to the studio for an interview and to play some live things. Maybe Bryan can combine that with his promotional activities in Holland. There could also be a meet up then with the Dutch Avalonians there, if someone is interested .......... I think it's one of the best cd's of the last ... years. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 19:01:39 +0100 From: "anotherphotographer" Subject: [AVALON] Fw: FW: Do This! Its hysterical!! 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For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working > > around the clock, around the globe, visit http://www.messagelabs.com > > ________________________________________________________________________ ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 20:06:24 +0200 From: "Ed Stobbelaar" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Radio Frantic - ----- Original Message ----- From: Jimbo > Frantic can be a huge commercial success also I think. > Only one prob there, how to get it played on the radio. No problem at all, Frantic is this week "Radio 2 CD" in Holland. It means that Frantic is played on the radio for 7 days, almost every hour. > Maybe Bryan can combine that with his promotional activities in Holland. > There could also be a meet up then with the Dutch Avalonians there, if someone > is interested .......... I think I know one... Ed ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 14:13:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Colleen Matan Subject: Re: [AVALON] Frantic - almost!!! On Thu, 2 May 2002, Mark Yates wrote: > never be another so they GRIP AND MOAN. JUST LIKE YOU and don't dare Hey, this isn't alt.I.just.lost.my.girlfriend. Let's keep it clean, shall we? Also, let's please (1) trim our replies to just what is pertinent and (2) understand that the folks who don't like what we like (or vice versa) have the same right to express their opinions so there is no need to get ugly. Colleen (amazed at how good _Frantic_ sounds on vinyl on her turntable) ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 12:19:30 -0700 From: David Firmin Subject: [AVALON] Record Buyer Bryan's on the cover of the new issue: http://home.ix.netcom.com/~dfirmin/rb.jpg - -- You can see the whole article here: http://pictures.care2.com/view/1/470752466 Thanks, David *** ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 20:41:57 +0100 From: "Duncan Watkins" Subject: [AVALON] Roxy Music/Sharks Jump The Shark: Roxy Music Vote/Comment at the link below: http://www.rollingstone.com/games/jumptheshark/artistquestion.asp?tid=396990&pid=396990&cid=1&url=http://content.rollingstone.com/content/90/images/4768.gif Confused? Then check out: http://www.jumptheshark.com Regards, Duncan. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: Click Here ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 21:55:14 +0100 From: "Philip Adams" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Baby Blue at TOTP2 Bahi wrote - ----- . And even Steve Wright was quite complimentary about Ferry, which I wasn't expecting. Credit to Steve Wright, he's has been a great supporter of Ferry and Roxy for many years. Philip ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 18:02:27 -0400 From: "tmoq" Subject: Re: [AVALON] What Frantic does to me... On Mon, 29 Apr 2002, Simon Galloway wrote: > Saying all that, I'm glad to have it. It's a major achievement for > Ferry, but one can't help feeling that it's a bit of a salvage job given > a bit of reworking to make it coherent. I`m sure the leaking of Alphaville was a real tragedy for Ferry and Frantic could very well be his best attempt at damage control considering all of this came down during a very "frantic" time for him. Therefore, whatever short comings the album may have is probably a result of this. So, with that said, let me say that although I`m more partial to the other-worldly, wall-of-sound style of the Alphaville versions, the Frantic reworks do have a more 'band" sound as pointed out by Colleen and this reinterpretation sounds every bit as new and fresh as the Alphaville versions. The stand out tracks for me are Fool For Love and I Thought. I do like the reworked Fool For Love equally as well as the Alphaville version but I`m with Simon on the instrumental at the end. The song stands well on it`s own without it and I finally had to make a copy with the damn thing cut out. I Thought is hands down the best song on the album To me it has a spacy Roy Orbison feel. I can`t get enough of it and, IMO, this track alone is worth getting the album. Also, Eno`s treatments really come though if you enable that 3D/Surround Sound thingy on your computer`s sound card. Ferry and Eno really need to collaborate more often. I find Goddess Of Love and One Way Love a bit too sugar coated even for being the obvious attempts at courting the radio stations with O.W.L at least being catchy where as G.O.L. is just down right sappy. "Platinum blonde, is it true you have more fun?" Sheeeeesh! That`s awful!!! Maybe it`s just that Elton John did so well a job at humanizing Monroe with Candle In the Wind that a song that goes for the "love goddess" theme seems trite and in bad taste now. Anyway, it`s a great tune, but the lyrics........ I don`t think any of the covers belong here. They`re all completely out of place and throws the whole album off.. The reasoning behind TWO Dylan tracks is baffling enough but what the hell is with the Lead Belly track? A conscience attempt to jump on the Oh Brother, Where Art Thou? band wagon or coincidence? (Remember, real bluegrass ain`t got no drums!!!). And why is Ja Nun Hons Pris here? Don`t get me wrong, it`s not that I don`t like the covers. But they just get in the way of the rest of the album which, all in all, is a very good album. Perhaps Ferry`s best, IMO. There were TOO many good tracks on Alphaville (and I`m sure the vaults contain many more) that could have been added instead. Again, I think this "new" material is the best he`s has ever done but I hope future releases keep the originals and covers separate. Gene An off topic P.S. If you`ve ever wanted to hear Ani Difranco and Jackie Chan....yes, THAT Jackie Chan....singing a duet of Nat King Cole`s "Unforgetable," (now admit it, you`ve been dreaming of this moment, haven`t you?) or Herman`s Hermits doing Billy Idol`s White Wedding or even Miss prim and proper Lesley Gore singing AC/DC`s Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap, then visit http://www.PigsflyCD.com and click "ENTER. (The sound files are dial-up friendly) There`s a most chilling version of Shock the Monkey sung by Don Ho too. There are several others as well and all are quite entertaining. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 19:24:52 -0400 (EDT) From: "" Subject: [AVALON]   Apologies for my recent muddled messages but at least I've unintentionally exposedthe secret behind one of Ferry's most obscure lyrical ideas. He obviously wrote Remake-Remodel in HTML on his state of the art PC back in 1972, the text was mistakenly converted to CPL593H and he decided that it suited the song. Genius. Now stand up all those idiots who were spotuting on about a car registration number. Drew - ------------------------------------------------ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 19:36:24 -0400 (EDT) From: "Pete Seely" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Frantic - almost!!! Boy, for someone who wasn't going to argue... Mark, I'm sorry if you took my opinions about Roxy and Ferry personally. They certainly weren't meant to be taken that way. And my glass is hardly half-empty. I like all of Ferry's stuff...even the post-Roxy period. I have gone on record as saying I love Frantic. Again, my point is, it's not fair to compare what is arguably one of Ferry's very best works with arguably one of Roxy's worst. The reason I brought up Paul Thompson was, you said Ferry's solo work gave him more freedom because he"didn't have to take the less talented band members into account." And last I checked, Paul was on all but 2 Roxy albums and almost entirely absent from all of Ferry's post-Roxy work. If you wonder why I brought up Paul, well, there you are. By the way, mark do you think Bowie will ever put out another work like Hunky Dory? Pete ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 19:41:30 -0400 (EDT) From: Colleen Matan Subject: [AVALON] PLEASE TRIM YOUR POSTS! Folks, you MUST trim your posts. Messages over 7000 characters bounce back to me. The last one (from Pete) I had to forward after I'd trimmed it was 11K long, 9K of which was endless repeating of prior messages in the thread. All completely unnecessary and a result of simple laziness on the part of everyone involved. I can't promise I'm going to send messages through if subscribers can't take the time to make their messages readable. In addition, please imagine what it is like to read the digest with half of it--sometimes more--being basically regurgitated gibberish. It's very easy to do, and it's a courtesy I am asking everyone to start observing from now on. Thank you. Signed, Our Miss Brooks ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 22:12:32 -0400 From: "Grant Goggans" Subject: [AVALON] "The Girls Perform" Hey everyone On the ATGB tour, was the first instrumental played by the string section at the beginning of each show entitled "Por Une Cabeza" (spelling correct?) and was the same song played at each show? I ask because I'm remaking that ugly screencap art for "These Vintage Years" and would appreciate a better title than "The Girls Perform." - --Grant _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 20:12:03 -0700 (PDT) From: David Firmin Subject: [AVALON] The Irish Independent There's life in the cool geezer yet by John Meagher When you think of the elder statesmen of English rock, you can't help but recall the horrible efforts of recent years by the likes of Bowie, Jagger and McCartney. Bryan Ferry, too, has had his moments in the doldrums, but his latest shows there's life in the (57-year) old geezer yet. Frantic (Virgin) is mix of original material and covers. And, while it might not reach the giddy heights of his Roxy Music days, there's plenty here to warm the heart. For a start, Brian Eno is working with Ferry again. That's something many Roxy fans thought would never happen and their effort, 'I Thought', takes time to reveal its subtle charms. Anybody expecting something avant garde from the King of Avant Garde will be disappointed, though. Radiohead's Jonny Greenwood lends his guitar to 'Hiroshima', a soaring number inspired by the classic 1959 film Hiroshima Mon Amour. Elsewhere, Eurythmics' Dave Stewart shares song-writing credits with Ferry, most notably on the ode to Marilyn Monroe, 'Goddess Of Love'. This first single should make people sit up and take notice of Ferry again. His trademark velvetly vocals are all over this. And it's good to see the guy singing so obsessively about women again. "I can't go on without you oh I want you/ Nobody cares like I do what can I do?" Anybody else would sound faintly ridiculous but this suave old devil manages to pull it off with aplomb. Whatever about Ferry and Eno working together again, it's just as arresting to see him covering Bob Dylan. His rendition of 'It's All Over Now, Baby Blue' is impressive, but 'Don't Think Twice, It's All Right' is a hammy effort, with Ferry sounding like a bad Elvis impersonator. Leadbelly's classic 'Goodnight Irene' seems too strained. Ferry, as always, is at his best when cool and detached. Frantic is not without its faults then but the album as a whole marks a resounding return to form. *** Yahoo! 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