From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V7 #150 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Wednesday, May 1 2002 Volume 07 : Number 150 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [AVALON] York sells out!!! ["Simon Galloway" ] Re: [AVALON] frantic - Ferry's swan song [JaniceJanroxy@AOL.COM] Re: [AVALON] Frantic Ferry Swan Song? - Naaah! ["Christian H. Soetemann" ] RE: [AVALON] frantic - Ferry's swan song ["Fiske, Jocelyn" ] Re: [AVALON] York sells out!!! [David Firmin ] Re: [AVALON] York sells out!!! ["Simon Galloway" ] [AVALON] Another good review [David Firmin ] Re: [AVALON] Another good review ["Simon Galloway" ] Re: [AVALON] frantic - Ferry's swan song [Daniel Atterbom ] Re: [AVALON] frantic - Ferry's swan song [philipcadams@lineone.net] Re: [AVALON] frantic - Ferry's swan song ["anotherphotographer" ] Re: [AVALON] frantic - Ferry's swan song ["Maggie Curran" ] [AVALON] Bete Noire, the song ["paula brown" ] Re: [AVALON] Jools Holland ["ncjones.lewis2" ] Re: [AVALON] Frantic review (spoiler) [Colleen Matan ] [AVALON] Another Frantic review... ["Keith Shockley" ] Re: [AVALON] frantic - Ferry's swan song [InterEireann@AOL.COM] Re: [AVALON] Frantic - almost!!! ["the bogus man" Subject: [AVALON] York sells out!!! According to http://www.wayahead.com/ the concert in York has sold out!!! That was quick. SimonG ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 04:44:29 EDT From: JaniceJanroxy@AOL.COM Subject: Re: [AVALON] frantic - Ferry's swan song >And doesn't he have sisters? Don't they deserve to have albums dedicated to them too? Yes, he does and he must have lots of other relatives he can dedicate them to and if he's really stuck, and if you are reading this Bryan, you can always dedicate one to me! Janice. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 12:00:55 +0100 From: "Christian H. Soetemann" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Frantic Ferry Swan Song? - Naaah! - ---------- >Von: "paula brown" >An: "Pete Seely" , >Betreff: Re: [AVALON] Frantic Ferry Swan Song? >Datum: Die, 30. Apr 2002 5:08 Uhr > >~ I know where all this talk of retirement is coming from. History. But >let's not forget that here is a man who pioneered an entire genre, and perhaps >a genre within a genre, and who stepped sideways in the midst of each to >create new personnas in his solo work. This is a complex artist from whom we >can expect more longevity than the run-of-the-mill rockstar. I am thrilled by >recent interviews because it is clear to me that Bryan has much more to say. I would consider any theories of Ferry about to retire after Frantic highly unlikely, especially when attributed to lyrics from songs. If that were an indicator, Ferry would haven been close to suicide in 1973, after having released Strictly Confidential AND Sunset. I don't mean to deny autobiographical aspects in his work at all, but world-weariness and melancholy have played such a major role in Ferry's output that each album might have been a kind of swansong. I agree with Paula that Ferry is eager to record and hopefully put out some more material. Especially now, after the difficult 90s, the plane disaster and the successful ATGB and Roxy tours, and right now with Frantic entering the German charts, for example, at position 12 (his best German chart position since B&G), retiring is unlikely. I guess it spurs him on even more. And all commercial success aside, I don't know Ferry in person, but one thing is for sure: this man is obsessed with what he does. People like Rod Stewart may drop in at the studio to record their vocals and then leave the rest to their producers, but not Ferry. He might enjoy shooting birds &c., but he knows that music is what he does best, and he will continue as long as possible, I'm certain. Christian ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 11:30:04 +0100 From: "Fiske, Jocelyn" Subject: RE: [AVALON] frantic - Ferry's swan song > He's 56. He's reviewed his career.He has a final record out, a Roxy DVD, the last tour. Retirement beckons. Any word of new Roxy material will turn to dust. Watch this space. Philip Oh Philip, you eternal pessimist you, Not a hope in the proverbial Hades. I think that two recent major happenings have given the old boy a boot up the perfectly tailored backside into renewed vigour for work and life. The first being the death of Simon Puxley. I think this, even more so than the BA Thing, made Bryan re-evaluate what he's doing, or not doing in the case of his years locked away in a studio. I also think Bryan rediscovering live audiences again has had a major impact. I have never heard him refer to his audiences with such relish as he has done in the myriad of Frantic interviews. He seems delighted that there is a younger generation discovering his music for the first time and amazed that the daft old buggers like us are still around (alive) to egg him on. He has commented that being so introspective was a mistake, that he listened to Mamouna recently and wondered where he was on it, that music is all about emotion and how he now wanted to recapture a live sound in the studio, hence the layers striped away on Frantic (but for Hiroshima) and a couple of frenzied weeks in the studio with the "Roxy Players". Look how his reticence to believe TGPT was the man for the job has now rightly turned to rapturous "no one beefs it up like Paul" Don't forget also that Ferry constantly refers to his favourite artists getting better with age Duke Ellington, Ray Charles, Ella Fitzgerald, all the old blues players who didn't succumb to the rigours of heroin touring. He has often said that he sees age as no boundary to producing music, just as long as he has an audience who's interested. Don't forget also Ferry is an old fashioned Geordie brought up with the work hard all your life ethic instilled in him by his adored father. And, OK, it hardly equates to putting in hours down a pit or in a hospital or saving lives, but turning up for work every day is important in the Ferry scheme of things. Also he is a man for whom etiquette is very important, so it's only polite for him to say goodbye at the end of every album! I think he's become a born again rocker, or, God forbid, a start anew folkie! Jocelyn ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 11:39:35 +0100 From: "Fiske, Jocelyn" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Who Is Johnnie Ray ? And also a major influence on Morrissey who adopted the Johnny Ray hearing aid look. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 12:27:18 +0100 From: "terrypaulrigz8c" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Acoustic Ferry - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2002 10:01 PM Subject: [AVALON] Acoustic Ferry I am hoping Bryan will do a piano/vocal song like the way he did > The Only Face during the As Time Goes By tour. > > I would like to hear something like True To Life or Day For Night as > Piano/Vocal > > I wonder what song some of you would think might benefit from that sort of > arrangement, answers on a postcard....... > > J.O'B. Here I go: 1: Beauty Queen 2: This island earth 3: The name of the Game 4: Just one look 5:Chain Reaction 6: Crazy Love 7: Jealous Guy (if we have to have it at all, a different arrangement would make it bearable) 8: Just another high. Terry "O" NP: Frantic, which for me is his best album in over 20 years, just what I've been waiting for. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 13:47:47 +0100 From: "terrypaulrigz8c" Subject: [AVALON] Hold on I'm Cruel I think Cruel bears an uncanny resemblance to Hold on I'm Coming, this is not a criticism just as his last 3 original albums were an extention of Avalon. Terry "O" NP: Nobody Loves Me. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 09:12:46 -0500 From: "paula brown" Subject: Re: [AVALON] frantic - Ferry's swan song And everyone MUST read Daniel's interview. It's brilliantly executed by a true fan. Paula - ----- Original Message ----- From: Daniel Atterbom Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 1:41 AM To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: Re: [AVALON] frantic - Ferry's swan song Since I have spoken to Mr Ferry I have to state that Frantic is not a career overview. It's just Mr Ferry doing what he does best. For those that did not read my interview, you can find it at http://vivaroxymusic.com NP In every dreamhome... Wolverhampton 1995 Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 09:18:49 -0500 From: "paula brown" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Hold on I'm Cruel I noticed that too, but it took me awhile, so I don't think it's overt. More differences than similiarities, certainly. Paula - ----- Original Message ----- From: terrypaulrigz8c Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 8:05 AM To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: [AVALON] Hold on I'm Cruel I think Cruel bears an uncanny resemblance to Hold on I'm Coming, this is not a criticism just as his last 3 original albums were an extention of Avalon. Terry "O" NP: Nobody Loves Me. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 07:48:45 -0700 From: David Firmin Subject: Re: [AVALON] York sells out!!! Bristol too. They're selling like hotcakes :) on 4/30/02 1:39 AM, Simon Galloway at SIMONG@jazzfm.com wrote: > According to http://www.wayahead.com/ the concert in York has sold out!!! > > That was quick. > > SimonG > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 15:57:29 +0100 From: "Simon Galloway" Subject: Re: [AVALON] York sells out!!! And these just happen to be the areas that were neglected on the Roxy tour... SimonG >>> David Firmin 04/30 3:48 pm >>> Bristol too. They're selling like hotcakes :) on 4/30/02 1:39 AM, Simon Galloway at SIMONG@jazzfm.com wrote: > According to http://www.wayahead.com/ the concert in York has sold out!!! > > That was quick. > > SimonG ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 08:15:23 -0700 From: David Firmin Subject: [AVALON] Another good review James Hunter of Rolling Stone says: Bryan Ferry wasn't the first guy to believe that nothing should exceed the grasp of rock recording. But nobody ever made that conviction sing like he did on his albums with the legendary Seventies London band Roxy Music. On Frantic, Ferry coaxes the work of Bob Dylan, Marilyn Monroe, Leadbelly, Richard the Lionheart, Orson Welles, Alain Resnais and others into one great, silvery song. The music, with players including Brian Eno and Radiohead's Jonny Greenwood, concerns itself more with songfulness than texture. Frantic jumps with energy, from the pure pop sensation of "One Way Love" to "Goddess of Love," which opens with the line "Marilyn says/'I got nothing to wear tonight/Only a pair of diamond earrings to catch the light.'" The string section on Ferry's cover of Dylan's "It's All Over Now Baby Blue" is tough enough to break windshields. Other pieces lounge ("San Simeon"), minuet ("I Thought") and dart ("Cruel"). And Ferry's voice, even for Earth's maestro of remote-control Sinatra-esque soul, is plainly spectacular. *** ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 16:36:16 +0100 From: "Simon Galloway" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Another good review I wonder if they've been sending out blank cheques with the promo copies!!! ;-) SimonG >>> David Firmin 04/30 4:15 pm >>> James Hunter of Rolling Stone says: ....And Ferry's voice, even for Earth's maestro of remote-control Sinatra-esque soul, is plainly spectacular. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 18:29:51 +0200 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: Re: [AVALON] frantic - Ferry's swan song At 09.12 -0500 2-04-30, paula brown wrote: >And everyone MUST read Daniel's interview. It's brilliantly executed by a >true fan. Thank you, Colleen and Heather helped with the questions. It's published in Swedish now. If anybody is intrested in pdf's, mail me off-list. NP Virginia Plain, Wolverhampton 1995 (I like that concert) Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 09:29:30 -0700 From: David Firmin Subject: [AVALON] Jonathan Ross Bryan Ferry will be a guest on this Saturday's show. BBC - Radio 2 http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio2/shows/jonathan_ross/index.shtml David *** ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 17:56:03 +0100 From: philipcadams@lineone.net Subject: Re: [AVALON] frantic - Ferry's swan song This old cat clearly ruffled a few feathers these last few days. The thrust of my original post is that I can see the point of Ferry bowing out on a high in a year or so with three successful tours and an acclaimed, populist record under his belt. I for one will not hold my breath for Frantic II or for further Roxy Music material. Philip am I the only one disappointed with the "Frantic" artwork? ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 18:43:55 +0100 From: "anotherphotographer" Subject: Re: [AVALON] frantic - Ferry's swan song Hows about ATGB II though regards young ernie - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 5:56 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] frantic - Ferry's swan song > This old cat clearly ruffled a few feathers these last few days. > The thrust of my original post is that I can see the point of Ferry bowing > out on a high in a year or so with three successful tours and an acclaimed, > populist record under his belt. > > I for one will not hold my breath for Frantic II or for further Roxy Music > material. > > Philip > > am I the only one disappointed with the "Frantic" artwork? > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 19:27:42 +0000 From: richarde66@mac.com Subject: [AVALON] Frantic - almost!!! Frantic is a massive step forward for Bryan. As much as I loved the soundscapes of Taxi and Mamouna. Its good to hear his voice against songs that have a beat again. That said it sounds like a collection of ad hoc recordings stuck on one disc. There is no real dicernable feel to the whole thing. It might have been better to re-record the lot with one consistent set of musicians. It is however the nest of his later solo work. I Thought is great and sounds like Bryan putting a vocals over a track from Warm Jets. Goddess and San Simeon also stand out, but the rest is average at best. Overall it sounds as though it could do with a hefty dose of Roxy. Cheers Richard ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 19:36:23 +0100 From: "ncjones.lewis2" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Jonathan Ross So there is a god! Also all you overseas (form a UK perspective) can listen live on-line. There is an archive of some of Ross's previous interviews on the same web page as mentioned below so you can get a feel for Mr. Ross's cheeky interviewing. It shall be interesting to see if Bryan goes with the flow...so to speak. Regards Neil - ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Firmin" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 5:29 PM Subject: [AVALON] Jonathan Ross > Bryan Ferry will be a guest on this Saturday's show. > > BBC - Radio 2 > http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio2/shows/jonathan_ross/index.shtml > > David > > *** > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 13:02:16 -0700 From: David Firmin Subject: [AVALON] Jools Holland Next week Ferry's in London to record the Jools Holland show. on 4/30/02 11:36 AM, ncjones.lewis2 at ncjones.lewis2@ntlworld.com wrote: > So there is a god! > > Also all you overseas (form a UK perspective) can listen live on-line. > There is an archive of some of Ross's previous interviews on the same web > page as mentioned below so you can get a feel for Mr. Ross's cheeky > interviewing. > > It shall be interesting to see if Bryan goes with the flow...so to speak. > > Regards > > Neil > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Firmin" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 5:29 PM > Subject: [AVALON] Jonathan Ross > > >> Bryan Ferry will be a guest on this Saturday's show. >> >> BBC - Radio 2 >> http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio2/shows/jonathan_ross/index.shtml >> >> David *** ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 16:13:38 -0400 From: "Maggie Curran" Subject: Re: [AVALON] frantic - Ferry's swan song And don't you think after the next album is dedicated to Merlin that he might dedicate one to Lucy? Maggie >From: "Judy Kaufman" >Reply-To: "Judy Kaufman" >To: "Avalon" >Subject: Re: [AVALON] frantic - Ferry's swan song >Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 00:32:19 -0500 > >From: JaniceJanroxy > > > > > I don't think this is the end. The album is dedicated to Tara, his third >son, > > so there has to be another for his fourth son. > >And doesn't he have sisters? Don't they deserve to have albums dedicated to >them too? > > >___________________________________________________________________________ >The subliminable footer says: >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon > _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 23:47:49 +0100 From: "Mark Yates" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Frantic - almost!!! I gotta disagree with you Richard.......I think the last thing it needs is a dose of Roxy.. In fact the album is perfect...Ferry without Roxy has so much more freedom of expression.... without having to take the other band members into account. I'm not knocking Roxy but lets face it .......his solo work since 75 has been far superior to the last three Roxy albums.......just compare Frantic with Flesh and Blood.........No contest. Mark. - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 8:27 PM Subject: [AVALON] Frantic - almost!!! > Frantic is a massive step forward for Bryan. As much as I loved the > soundscapes of Taxi and Mamouna. Its good to hear his voice against > songs that have a beat again. > > That said it sounds like a collection of ad hoc recordings stuck on one > disc. There is no real dicernable feel to the whole thing. It might have > been better to re-record the lot with one consistent set of musicians. > > It is however the nest of his later solo work. I Thought is great and > sounds like Bryan putting a vocals over a track from Warm Jets. > > Goddess and San Simeon also stand out, but the rest is average at best. > > Overall it sounds as though it could do with a hefty dose of Roxy. > > Cheers > > Richard > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 19:05:37 -0400 (EDT) From: "" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Frantic review (spoiler) Bahi, thanks for taking the time to read my jumbled up review.  You may be right about Trower.  The guitar on Hiroshima sounds similar to a lot of the sounds from the Wolverhampton 95 boot although Ferry invariably mentions Greenwood when speaking of the track.  Was this song a Ferry/ Stewart co-write?  It is according to the lyrics I printed off John O'Brien's site a while back but not according to the sleeve where Ferry is the sole writer!   Regarding the career journey you mention: is a journey not about moving on?  I agreed with this analogy up until and including Mamouna but asides from the two standouts mentioned yesterday I don't think Ferry has progressed at all over the last two albums.  Not that I'm criticisng him - Christ he deserves to have a bit of fun and maybe his priorities changed after losing his record deal in 1998.  However I would be intereseted to read the list of "what ifs" that people believe this album provides solutions to.   Finally, I think no matter when Ferry retires/ dies people will always harp back to the poignancy of the last track from his last album.  Consider Chain Reaction and September Song to mention just two.  I'd be extrememly surprised if I Thought turns out to be Ferry's last word.   Drew  - ------------------------------------------------ ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 18:48:38 -0500 From: "paula brown" Subject: [AVALON] Bete Noire, the song As I mentioned in a recent post, the song Bete Noire has taken on new life for me since hearing Ja Nun Hons Pris. So I've been listening to different versions. I hadn't listened to the entire Bete Noire album for awhile. I'd been listening to live versions of Bete Noire on both concert cds and a promotional sampler that came out for Mamouna, I guess it is, which has the '88 Glasgow Bete Noire. I like it much better live than on the studio version, surprisingly. It seems to have more passion. Has anyone else noticed or know of a particularly great version of it? Paula ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 00:44:37 +0100 From: "ncjones.lewis2" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Jools Holland So how would one get into the audience for such a show....and any ideas as to who the other guests are? - ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Firmin" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 9:02 PM Subject: [AVALON] Jools Holland > Next week Ferry's in London to record the Jools Holland show. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 21:05:54 -0400 From: "Pete Seely" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Frantic - almost!!! What a fallacious argument: comparing Frantic with Flesh and Blood! Of course, that particular comparison is valid, but compare the first four Roxy albums with Bete Noire or Boys and Girls or Taxi. No contest, either! Why would anyone take a bunch of studio hacks as a "band" over Roxy? Pete S. Original Message ----- From: "Mark Yates" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 6:47 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Frantic - almost!!! > I gotta disagree with you Richard.......I think the last thing it needs is a > dose of Roxy.. > In fact the album is perfect...Ferry without Roxy has so much more freedom > of expression.... without having to take the other band > members into account. I'm not knocking Roxy but lets face it .......his solo > work since 75 has been far superior to the last three Roxy albums.......just > compare Frantic with Flesh and Blood.........No contest. > Mark. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 8:27 PM > Subject: [AVALON] Frantic - almost!!! > > > > Frantic is a massive step forward for Bryan. As much as I loved the > > soundscapes of Taxi and Mamouna. Its good to hear his voice against > > songs that have a beat again. > > > > That said it sounds like a collection of ad hoc recordings stuck on one > > disc. There is no real dicernable feel to the whole thing. It might have > > been better to re-record the lot with one consistent set of musicians. > > > > It is however the nest of his later solo work. I Thought is great and > > sounds like Bryan putting a vocals over a track from Warm Jets. > > > > Goddess and San Simeon also stand out, but the rest is average at best. > > > > Overall it sounds as though it could do with a hefty dose of Roxy. > > > > Cheers > > > > Richard > > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > > The subliminable footer says: > > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > > unsubscribe avalon > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 22:06:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Colleen Matan Subject: Re: [AVALON] Frantic review (spoiler) [Drew--do you think you could set your mail program to post in plain text? It'd make it much easier to read since the HTML is being converted and I think it's mitigating the strength of your points.] On Tue, 30 Apr 2002, wrote: > asides from the two standouts mentioned yesterday I don't think Ferry > has progressed at all over the last two albums.  Not that I'm > criticisng him - Christ he deserves to have a bit of fun and maybe > his priorities changed after losing his record deal in 1998.  > However I would be intereseted to read the list of "what ifs" that > people believe this album provides solutions to.   Finally, I think I'm not sure that progress is what Mr. Ferry has been after in his career, and especially over the last few years. How would or could one measure "progress" in an artist's career, especially as what you like might be totally at odds with what I like or consider some sort of improvement? I mean, I think _Frantic_ *is* a kind of progress for him. I'd also say that _Frantic_ is a kind of triumph over the writer's block which led to _As Time Goes By_ (if not the Roxy reunion). I'm more fond of it as a whole than I am of any of his solo albums since _Boys And Girls_. I wouldn't say it's his magnum opus. But it's alive and immediate, and it engages me. Sure it's not perfect; but then again I'm someone who loves those dearest to me for their faults as well as their areas of perfection. I don't know that it's necessarily the way out of the writer's block, but it's at least something. As for the "what if's" I guess I'd offer these: what if he dug up these old songs and took another look at them? what if he could have some chart success again with (mostly) original material? what if he toured with Roxy and then released a solo record instead of a new Roxy record? Colleen p.s. as you may have surmised, TCP/IP problem solved. Many thanks to everyone who offered assistance. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 21:53:55 -0700 From: "Keith Shockley" Subject: [AVALON] Another Frantic review... = http://music.yahoo.com/launch/news/rolling_stone/story.html?a=3Dn/music/l= aunch/news/rolling_stone/rock/20020430/4/p1&b=3Dn/music/launch/news/rolli= ng_stone/rock/20020430/4/p2 Keith NP: Tangerine / Led Zeppelin [demime 0.97c removed an attachment of type application/octet-stream which had a name of LAUNCH Music.url] ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 02:58:44 EDT From: InterEireann@AOL.COM Subject: Re: [AVALON] frantic - Ferry's swan song Sorry to reply, but in my humble opinion Ferry was ( is) and will remain a better singer/songwriter within the Roxy "band " formula. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 09:15:23 +0200 From: "the bogus man" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Frantic - almost!!! mmmhhhhh i think we could debate a lot about these sort of comparisons i dislike flesh and blood just cose i feel it like a ferry album more than a Roxy one it's the first time that Roxy cover someone else's song and i dont feel Roxy sound in tune with west coast (ps of course i loved 4 way street deja vu etc etc) Roxy sound has to be unique eheh and in some song "the less talented musicians" are even not involved SACRILEGE LOL what about TGPT dismission...... at the time i thought that Bryan was the owner of the label Roxy and co. and i was a lot disappointed felling like if ferry was mixing is own career with the band one and i admite under torture i prefere many explorers song of that age, very more rock, than some crooney bryan's of the 80's may the force be with the bogus dan :-D ciaooooooooooooooooooooo - -----Messaggio Originale----- Da: "Mark Yates" A: Data invio: mercoledl 1 maggio 2002 0.47 Oggetto: Re: [AVALON] Frantic - almost!!! > I gotta disagree with you Richard.......I think the last thing it needs is a > dose of Roxy.. > In fact the album is perfect...Ferry without Roxy has so much more freedom > of expression.... without having to take the other band > members into account. I'm not knocking Roxy but lets face it .......his solo > work since 75 has been far superior to the last three Roxy albums.......just > compare Frantic with Flesh and Blood.........No contest. > Mark. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 8:27 PM > Subject: [AVALON] Frantic - almost!!! ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 03:30:40 EDT From: InterEireann@AOL.COM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Frantic - almost!!! Agreed. First five albums unique compared to the sounds at the time and each different from the previous....solos and Manifesto and post 1979 Roxy...quite ordinary all in all. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V7 #150 **************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest