From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V7 #91 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Saturday, March 9 2002 Volume 07 : Number 091 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [AVALON] Odense Denmark Date [OBrienFerry@AOL.COM] [AVALON] UNCUT magazine NEXT month... ["Simon Galloway" ] Re: [AVALON] Set Lists 2002 Competition [Colleen Matan ] Re: [AVALON] Set Lists 2002 Competition [Helchat@AOL.COM] Re: [AVALON] Set Lists 2002 Competition [Miles Goosens ] Re: [AVALON] Set Lists 2002 Competition ["mark shanahan" ] Re: [AVALON] Lucy Ferry [Colleen Matan ] RE: [AVALON] Lucy Ferry ["Tracy Elliott" ] Re: [AVALON] Set Lists 2002 Competition ["Chris Turner" ] Re: [AVALON] Lucy Ferry ["bryan o connor" ] Re: [AVALON] Lucy Ferry [Helchat@AOL.COM] Re: [AVALON] Lucy Ferry heiress debunking ["Theresa Fagan" ] Re: [AVALON] Lucy Ferry ["Judy Kaufman" ] [AVALON] "The Look: Adventures In Pop & Rock Fashion" -- Ferry, Roxy, Antony Price ["Maggie Curran" Subject: [AVALON] UNCUT magazine NEXT month... Apparantly, Bryan will feature in next month's UNCUT magazine (that's the one that comes out in April). So there! (c) 1999 SimonG SimonG ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 09:32:29 EST From: KWil632057@AOL.COM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Uh Oh....trouble. Bryan doesn't feature in the new top 50 best dressed according to GQ this month (and Nicky bloody Haslam does). Could it be the white undies that caused the expulsion from the list. However they do reveal that useless it girl Tania Strecker was Bryans chauffeur for 2 years. Jonathan n/p Robin Trower 'Robin's Garage tunezzz' p.s. I love Jerry Hall ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2002 11:03:44 -0600 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: [AVALON] Set Lists 2002 Competition At 10:27 AM 3/7/2002 -0500, Colleen Matan wrote: >On Thu, 7 Mar 2002, Johnny Reece wrote: > >> --- Simon Galloway wrote: >> So who d'you reckon is in the band?>>> >> >> Yep, exactly as you said (Roxy without Andy & Phil)I >> guess, though I think the attendance of Lucy will >> depend on whether the Tindersticks tour dates clash >> with Ferrys. >> Looking forward to it already though. > >I'm probably in the very small minority on this, but I'd like for Mr. >Ferry to use a whole new band instead of The Roxy Reunion Without Phil and >Andy (as I had reservations about all of those other people on stage last >summer anyway). Lest anyone think that Colleen and I are joined at the hip, I thought all of the supporting musicians on the 2001 Roxy tour were outstanding, and I had no reservations about any of them. As Colleen says a couple of messages later, she ended up attending what must have been the two worst shows of the U.S. tour. I wish we could whisk her away in the time machine to Atlanta (and while we're at it, land the machine directly on top of the bellicose idiot who was behind the Avalonian table) where she'd've gotten the 2001 show she deserved. Anyway, I think Colin, Zev, Julia, Lucy, and Speddo were in top form, and even the much maligned Ms. Brown made positive contributions (of course, by the time we saw her, she had been relieved of her "Avalon" duties). I'd love to see some of the MAMOUNA band fill in the gaps, especially guitar gods Chester Kamen and Neil Hubbard. Grant says of the potential setlist: >He's probably not going to drop Jealous Guy or Avalon, but I could do >without A Waste Land, Windswept, While My Heart is Still Beating and In >Every Dream Home a Heartache. Somehow even with all the performances of "Dream Home" I've heard, I think I'd miss it if it wasn't in the set. Manzo's solo on it in Atlanta took second place only to his "Ladytron" solo earlier in the show, and the only other time I've seen Ferry live (also Atlanta, '94 MAMOUNA tour), Chester Kamen exploded it into the stratosphere. And I still like the "A Waste Land/Windswept" section, but then again, since I like the AVALON/B&G/BETE NOIRE sequence of Ferry's career just as much as albums 1-4, so whadda I know? :-) "Carrickfergus," which was *the* highlight of Atlanta '94 for me -- I'd love to hear it live again. If there's a string section this time, I'd like for Bryan to remedy the Great Missed Opportunity of the AS TIME GOES BY tour, and do "When She Walks in the Room." >Hopefully, he'll do more active promotion of the current album and give us >five or so tunes from it. Wasn't this the norm for the BETE NOIRE and MAMOUNA shows -- five or so new songs? I expect this. >Oh yeah, and each night's show could contain 18 or so songs from a rotating >bank of about 30. No two nights the same! That's a connoisseur's dream, but most bands with a large back catalog (including Roxy in 2001) talk this up in rehearsal, then go out and play just about the same 15-20 songs every night. I wouldn't hold my breath for this, though it would be nice work if we could get it. I'd think keeping continuity with the 1999-2001 touring core would increase the chances for variety, since they wouldn't have as much new-to-them material to learn. later, Miles ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2002 11:18:04 -0600 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: [AVALON] Lucy Ferry At 09:17 AM 3/7/2002 -0500, Colleen Matan wrote: >Well, you never know what we plain Janes have up our (unadorned) >sleeves.... > >Colleen >p.s. I think she's actually quite beautiful. In addition she's quite >sophisticated and stylish, with gorgeous clothes and impeccable taste, >and I suspect that that is rather a selling point. Oh, and there's the >matter of her being a heiress as well. Not to mention the fact that >they've remained married quite a long time for a celebrity marriage and >her appeal may lie in more than her clothes or hairstyle. I agree with all of this (though I'm still waiting for that follow-up on how she's *not* an heiress -- I mean, I'm open to correction on that point, but I wanna see some evidence, ya know?). Lucy is quite striking, especially in the already-referenced Mapplethorpe photo. Ah, but I'm always partial to brunettes and redheads over blondes... :-) I do have to wonder about Bry and Lucy's parenting skills, what with their sons exhibiting a distressing upper-class boorishness now that they're big enough to make public statements and send harassing e-mails (but apparently not smart enough to use spellcheck)... later, Miles ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 13:14:11 -0500 (EST) From: Colleen Matan Subject: Re: [AVALON] Set Lists 2002 Competition On Fri, 8 Mar 2002, Miles Goosens wrote: > Lest anyone think that Colleen and I are joined at the hip, I thought Phew. I was getting concerned myself. > >Oh yeah, and each night's show could contain 18 or so songs from a > >rotating bank of about 30. No two nights the same! > > That's a connoisseur's dream, but most bands with a large back catalog > (including Roxy in 2001) talk this up in rehearsal, then go out and play > just about the same 15-20 songs every night. I wouldn't hold my breath > for this, though it would be nice work if we could get it. I'd think > keeping continuity with the 1999-2001 touring core would increase the > chances for variety, since they wouldn't have as much new-to-them > material to learn. Well, not only that, but it's not like Mr. Ferry is Mr. Spontaneous. I probably only see 2 shows at the most of any of his tours, but they are almost always remarkable for how similar they are: no banter, and virtually no changes to the setlist (except perhaps to lose songs as the tour goes on [so get there early, kids]). I too would love to see the setlists mixed up a bit and I'd adore some stuff from _In Your Mind_. Hope does spring eternal, you know. With respect to the opening number, as much as I'd love to have it be "One Way Love," ahahahaha, I'd also say that "Cruel" would be a magnificent way for Mr. Ferry to announce the return of his solo career. Colleen ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 13:21:29 EST From: Helchat@AOL.COM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Set Lists 2002 Competition In a message dated 3/8/02 10:17:21 AM Pacific Standard Time, cjem@his.com writes: << I too would love to see the setlists mixed up a bit and I'd adore some stuff from _In Your Mind_. Hope does spring eternal, you know. >> I love IYM, especially LMMA, which I believe would be too lengthy to play in concert, but I would also like to hear Sign of the Times from Bride, or something else more upbeat from that album. Helene ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2002 12:36:43 -0600 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: [AVALON] Set Lists 2002 Competition At 01:21 PM 3/8/2002 -0500, Helchat@aol.com wrote: >I love IYM, especially LMMA, which I believe would be too lengthy to play in >concert, but I would also like to hear Sign of the Times from Bride, or >something else more upbeat from that album. All the Ferry originals from BRIDE are brilliant! The most likely to be played is always "Can't Let Go." (A great song, but one he's done quite a bit.) "Sign" would rock! Of course, I've already stumped (Christmas trees and all) for "When She Walks in the Room," downbeat though it may be. Someone slip Colin Good a copy of BRIDE, please! I remember a Ferry interview in MUSICIAN ('83? '85?) where he identified "This Island Earth" as the best song he'd ever written, and said his biggest regret was not coming up with more original songs for BRIDE. later, Miles ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 13:12:48 -0600 From: "paula brown" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Set Lists 2002 Competition I'd love it if he did "You Go to My Head," but he won't, I guess. I can just see him midset changing into his white, dimming the lights and then having light specks swirl around the stage as he starts singing "You Go to My Head." Very romantic. Too bad Lawrence Welk ruined it for bubbles. Well, it was a great moment from the custom Ferry concert in my head anyway. "Can't Let Go" and "Love Me Madly" would be great. Both have some hard-to-sing parts though. I bet he does at least one of them. Paula ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 11:01:07 -0800 From: "mark shanahan" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Set Lists 2002 Competition _______________________________________________________________ Get the FREE email that has everyone talking at http://www.mail2world.com <-----Original Message-----> >From: Miles Goosens >At 01:21 PM 3/8/2002 -0500, Helchat@aol.com wrote: > >I love IYM, especially LMMA, which I believe would be too lengthy to play in > >concert, but I would also like to hear Sign of the Times from Bride [cut] >[cut] I've already stumped (Christmas trees and all) for "When She Walks in the Room," downbeat though it >may be. Someone slip Colin Good a copy of BRIDE, please! > >I remember a Ferry interview in MUSICIAN ('83? '85?) where he identified >"This Island Earth" as the best song he'd ever written [cut] OK, that's it -- my bryan ferry 2002 tour fantasy setlist, as follows (order of appearance not important): 1) boys & girls 2) the chosen one 3) love me madly again 4) party doll 5) all night operator 6) this island earth 7) when she walks in the room 7) sign of the times 8) zamba 9) kiss & tell 11) your painted smile 12) which way to turn 13) fit in your FRANTIC tracks anywhere as needed **encore** 14) the only face 15) you go to my head (yeah, yeah - i know) 16) mamouna well, i believe i could walk away sated. of course, you could still throw in MOP & 'just like you' & 'strictly confidential' - if he's feeling really good that night! ah, i can dream, can't i? (heavy, heavy sigh ...) peaces/ms ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 20:04:39 -0000 From: "Chris Turner" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Lucy Ferry The 'Lucy is an heiress' mystery was caused by a sloppy journalist who mistook her maiden name - Helmore - for Helman, and laughably wrote that she was to inherit the mayonaise millions. Bryan has commented wryly about it in interviews a couple of times. Sorry to burst anyone's bubble. I stood three feet away from Lucy at Castle Howard. Her willowy figure and striking good looks still indicate her model heritage. Chris Colleen wrote: > > I agree with all of this (though I'm still waiting for that follow-up on > how she's *not* an heiress -- I mean, I'm open to correction on that point, > but I wanna see some evidence, ya know?). ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 15:15:15 -0500 (EST) From: Colleen Matan Subject: Re: [AVALON] Lucy Ferry On Fri, 8 Mar 2002, Chris Turner wrote: > Colleen wrote: > > > > I agree with all of this (though I'm still waiting for that follow-up on > > how she's *not* an heiress -- I mean, I'm open to correction on that > point, > > but I wanna see some evidence, ya know?). I know it's been hard as of late to tell us apart, but Miles wrote that. Colleen (who does prefer brunets and redheads though) ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 20:37:44 -0000 From: "Tracy Elliott" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Lucy Ferry > The 'Lucy is an heiress' mystery was caused by a sloppy journalist who mistook her maiden name - Helmore - for Helman, and laughably wrote that she was to inherit the mayonaise millions. Bryan has commented wryly about it in interviews a couple of times. Sorry to burst anyone's bubble. I thought her dad was a banker from Ireland???? Is this right? But that she was an heiress, maybe I got to hear half of the incorrect story! T ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 20:46:25 -0000 From: "Chris Turner" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Set Lists 2002 Competition I have the likely band line-up from an impeccable source. There will be two guitarists on the tour. I've been asked not to reveal the names yet, but they're VERY rock and roll. Chris - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Simon Galloway" To: Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 3:07 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Set Lists 2002 Competition So who d'you reckon is in the band? ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2002 21:21:28 +0000 From: stevesiren2 Subject: Re: [AVALON] Set Lists 2002 Competition Mick Green & Chris Spedding? Am I close Chris? Steve Chris Turner wrote: > I have the likely band line-up from an impeccable source. There will be two > guitarists on the tour. I've been asked not to reveal the names yet, but > they're VERY rock and roll. > > Chris > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 16:52:06 -0600 From: "paula brown" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Set Lists 2002 Competition Oh, goody! - ----- Original Message ----- From: Chris Turner Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 2:54 PM To: Avalon Subject: Re: [AVALON] Set Lists 2002 Competition I have the likely band line-up from an impeccable source. There will be two guitarists on the tour. I've been asked not to reveal the names yet, but they're VERY rock and roll. Chris - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Simon Galloway" To: Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 3:07 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Set Lists 2002 Competition So who d'you reckon is in the band? ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 23:05:38 -0000 From: "bryan o connor" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Lucy Ferry I never saw the woman up until the photos the other day except the Avalon cover , which doesn't give much away. It was then I realised that I'd been right. I saw herself and her son at the Dublin gig. They were in the front row on the left hand side. Bearing in mind I'd never seen her, I reckoned that she was Bryans wife as she had the little boy with her and It being the first gig its logical that she would attend. I noticed her in the big crowd and must admit I thought she had a presence. Shes a good looking woman and I don't think my taste is all that bad. Anyway, that's it for me on Bryans wife. It's not the type of conversation that I'm all that comfortable with at the end of the day. regards Bryan PS Just bought the new Roland Gift (Ex Fine Young Cannibals) album and must admit its pretty good. I rarely listen to a record all the way through as I'm always looking for the killer track and have a tendency to listen to a few songs over and over. But this is a real comeback....every track has a good melody and most of the lyrics are up to scratch. - ----- Original Message ----- From: Chris Turner To: Avalon Sent: Friday, March 08, 2002 8:04 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Lucy Ferry > The 'Lucy is an heiress' mystery was caused by a sloppy journalist who > mistook her maiden name - Helmore - for Helman, and laughably wrote that she > was to inherit the mayonaise millions. Bryan has commented wryly about it in > interviews a couple of times. Sorry to burst anyone's bubble. > > I stood three feet away from Lucy at Castle Howard. Her willowy figure and > striking good looks still indicate her model heritage. > > Chris > > > Colleen wrote: > > > > I agree with all of this (though I'm still waiting for that follow-up on > > how she's *not* an heiress -- I mean, I'm open to correction on that > point, > > but I wanna see some evidence, ya know?). > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 18:24:28 EST From: Helchat@AOL.COM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Lucy Ferry In a message dated 3/8/02 2:56:36 PM Pacific Standard Time, sleazecorp@dol.ie writes: << I never saw the woman up until the photos the other day except the Avalon cover , which doesn't give much away. >> I remember in 1999 there were some links to pics on the list which showed her and Bryan in the back of a limo (?), and he was wearing a scarf, which had been a topic of discussion. Does anyone remember/know where this link is? They were very good pictures of them. Helene ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 19:44:07 -0500 From: "Theresa Fagan" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Lucy Ferry heiress debunking Adam Sweeting, VOX magazine: But in person, far from appearing snooty or superior, Bryan is modest and delightfully vague. He treats questions about his family with restrained flippancy. "It's unbelievable the things that they've written about her, or about us. The funniest thing was when she was a 'mayonnaise heiress'. Lucy's maiden name is Helmore. Helmore's mayonnaise!" Bryan guffaws. "I'm a great subscriber to Hellmann's, actually. I use a lot of it. I should get them to sponsor the tour. No, sadly, she didn't have any money. No dowry at all. Not a bean." ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 19:46:35 -0600 From: "paula brown" Subject: [AVALON] Lucy Ferry When is the last time Bryan mentioned Lucy in an interview, either voluntarily or in response to a question? Paula ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2002 21:40:33 -0600 From: "Judy Kaufman" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Lucy Ferry >From: "paula brown" >When is the last time Bryan mentioned Lucy in an interview, either >voluntarily >or in response to a question? I don't know the answer to this. I seem to remember ancient history more than recent events. In the most recent Tatler I saw Lucy and Bryan were pictured in an article on enduring marriages. When he appeared once on Jay Leno, Bryan was asked about whether or not it was true that Princess Diana was trying to buy their home. Bryan said Jay should ask Lucy, that she made those decisions. In an even earlier interview, Bryan was asked whether their marriage would last the rocky period they were going through at the time. He said that Lucy is Catholic and he is Church of England so there would be NO divorce. (But, please, let's not rehash religious meaning in his work again.) Judy _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2002 22:44:51 -0500 From: "Maggie Curran" Subject: [AVALON] "The Look: Adventures In Pop & Rock Fashion" -- Ferry, Roxy, Antony Price Maybe you already know about this book, "The Look: Adventures In Pop & Rock Fasion." I just got my copy today. Published in 2001. Here's an excerpt: "Under the art-directed control of Bryan Ferry, Roxy Music were the first group to ensure that every last detail of their visual image matched their music, a retro/futuristic concoction which blended honking '50s rock'n'roll with systms music and '40s crooning. When Roxy emerged apparently fully formed with their extraordinary and assured self-titled debut on Island Records in the summer of 1971, music press hackles were raised further by such flourishes as the liner note credits for clothes, make-up and hair, all of which were contributed by Price, who became Ferry's arch-collaborator in engineering the band's look, which embodied the couture end of glam by drawing on the golden age of Hollywood as much as adopting spacesuits and military uniforms." ...."Among the stand-out images concocted was the white tux Ferry wore on the cover of his second solo album ATAP in 1973 and the space-age ted look of saxophonist Andy Mackay on the inner sleeve of FYP." Some nice pix of Roxy, Ferry and Price are here. Book also details fashion image of Bowie, Roger Waters, Peter Townshen, Ringo Starr and many, many others. Book is published in UK (naturally) by Sanctuary Publishing. Paul Gorman is the author. Best regards, Maggie _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V7 #91 *************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest