From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V7 #87 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Wednesday, March 6 2002 Volume 07 : Number 087 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [AVALON] Shagbag Records ["terrypaulrigz8c" ] [AVALON] Frantic [Daniel Atterbom ] [AVALON] Nevermind the BUZZCOCKS - OT ["Bill " ] [AVALON] OFF-TOPIC - career development for other 80s rock stars [Richinh] Re: [AVALON] OFF-TOPIC - career development for other 80s rock stars ["Si] Re: [AVALON] OFF-TOPIC - and back onto topic [Susan Stekel ] Re: [AVALON] Frantic ["paula brown" ] Re: [AVALON] It's still the same old movie ["paula brown" ] Re: [AVALON] Stateside nervous nellies [Daniel Atterbom ] Re: [AVALON] Stateside nervous nellies ["paula brown" ] RE: [AVALON] New MailingList; AVALON [Colleen Matan ] Re: [AVALON] Stateside nervous nellies [Daniel Atterbom ] Re: [AVALON] Stateside nervous nellies ["paula brown" ] [AVALON] Where are those imports? ["M" ] Re: [AVALON] OFF-TOPIC - career development for other 80s rock stars/dream ["M" ] [AVALON] Ferry Book Giveaway [stevesiren2 ] Re: [AVALON] Concord 2001 [William Sommers ] Re: [AVALON] Au contraire, Miles! Avalon is NOT an Unpleasant Land [ Subject: [AVALON] Shagbag Records This may be of interest to some of you guys. http://www.shagbag.co.uk/Shagbag_Records_Itineraries_6.html Terry "O" [demime 0.97c removed an attachment of type application/octet-stream which had a name of Shagbag Records.url] ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 10:53:36 +0100 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: [AVALON] Frantic I found a promotion copy of Frantic in my mailbox today. I gave it a spin although I ought to listen to Motorhead, as I am interviewing their Swedish drummer. It sounds nice, Frantic. It reminds me of Mamouna, one of my favorite albums from the 90's. NP Bryan Ferry, Fool for love Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 08:34:25 -0600 From: "Bill " Subject: [AVALON] Nevermind the BUZZCOCKS - OT I am wondering if anyone on the list has heard the new CD called BUZZKUNST by 2 of the founding members of the Buzzcocks that was just released. Pete Shelley and Howard Devoto call themselves ShelleyDevoto of all things. I've ordered it but it has not arrived as yet and wondered if anyone has heard it. I was lucky enough to see the BUZZCOCKS around 1978 in Southern California at the Santa Monica Civic Auditorium! It was a terrific show! Seems the bulk of the best music in modern times has come from the UK... Thanks BILL N P Bryan Ferry :: GIRL OF MY BEST FRIEND (Japanese CD) ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 10:11:04 EST From: Richinhighbury@AOL.COM Subject: [AVALON] OFF-TOPIC - career development for other 80s rock stars http://www.broadway.com/buzz/headlines.cfm?story_id=1004409&ssection_id=7 Rock stars Dave Stewart and Annie Lennox have been tapped to write the score for the stage musical Barbarella. The tuner, based on the 1968 film of the same name, is expected to bow in Vienna in the spring of 2004, according to Variety. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2002 15:32:10 +0000 From: "Simon Galloway" Subject: Re: [AVALON] OFF-TOPIC - career development for other 80s rock stars Apparantly when asked about this, a spokesperson for the Eurythmics claimed that neither Dave nor Annie knew about it. But you'd think they would have asked Durn Duran instead, I mean... come on!!! SimonG >>> 03/06 3:11 pm >>> http://www.broadway.com/buzz/headlines.cfm?story_id=1004409&ssection_id=7 Rock stars Dave Stewart and Annie Lennox have been tapped to write the score for the stage musical Barbarella. The tuner, based on the 1968 film of the same name, is expected to bow in Vienna in the spring of 2004, according to Variety. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2002 09:52:28 -0600 From: Susan Stekel Subject: Re: [AVALON] OFF-TOPIC - and back onto topic At 03:32 PM 3/6/02 +0000, you wrote: >Apparantly when asked about this, a spokesperson for the Eurythmics claimed that neither Dave nor Annie knew about it. But you'd think they would have asked Durn Duran instead, I mean... come on!!! LOL! In a perfect world, Simon, in a perfect world ... And re: Paula's earlier comment about the Amazon import of Frantic: has anyone ordered this AND received it yet? Susan ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2002 11:34:02 EST From: InterEireann@AOL.COM Subject: Re: [AVALON] It's still the same old movie My brother has just bought a house in the west of Ireland and the locals claim that Mr. Ferry owns the propery next door and pops into the local for a pint now and again..I can just imagine him with a flat cap and pint of Guiness in hand and woodbine in the other blending into that country life. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 12:55:23 -0500 From: "Theresa Fagan" Subject: [AVALON] Stateside nervous nellies If you, like me, are afraid that Frantic is not going to be released in the US of A in a timely manner, you can get it on pre-order from Amazon UK for under $19. (including shipping). A bargain! - --TriTri ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 12:14:11 -0600 From: "paula brown" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Frantic So how IS Lemmy? Every single time I've been to the Rainbow Bar & Grill in LA for pizza, Lemmy has been there. He must live right by it or something. Paula - ----- Original Message ----- From: Daniel Atterbom Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 4:00 AM To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: [AVALON] Frantic I found a promotion copy of Frantic in my mailbox today. I gave it a spin although I ought to listen to Motorhead, as I am interviewing their Swedish drummer. It sounds nice, Frantic. It reminds me of Mamouna, one of my favorite albums from the 90's. NP Bryan Ferry, Fool for love Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 12:10:41 -0600 From: "paula brown" Subject: Re: [AVALON] It's still the same old movie Ferry in a Landcruiser, now there's a vision I never hoped to imagine. But it makes sense. 4 boys, etc. Couldn't very well let the little buggers loose with a Mustang or Camaro. They'd only wreck it. What am I saying? That's what everyone I know started off driving. Oh, but we all wrecked them, too, didn't we? And they're a bit more precious now. I hope this doesn't mean I've matured. Paula - ----- Original Message ----- From: Aleks Kocan Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 1:47 AM To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: Re: [AVALON] It's still the same old movie - --- paula brown wrote: > Speaking of cars, a car valet to the stars says > Ferry drives/drove a > Merc SL. I find that disappointing, somehow. I think I read ages ago that Ferry did indeed drive (still drives?) a Merc. A friend of mine who lives down the road from him has told me before that he's spotted Bryan using some sort of "large 4-wheel drive" type "landcruiser/range rover" vehicle whilst visiting the local shops. Aleks Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! http://mail.yahoo.com/ ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 12:17:09 -0600 From: "paula brown" Subject: Re: [AVALON] OFF-TOPIC - and back onto topic No, it's advance order. It won't be out until after April 15th, the street date, assuming that doesn't get bumped back, and then a few days at least for Amazon to ship it. They take a couple of weeks anytime I've ordered stuff. Paula - ----- Original Message ----- From: Susan Stekel Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 9:56 AM To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: Re: [AVALON] OFF-TOPIC - and back onto topic At 03:32 PM 3/6/02 +0000, you wrote: >Apparantly when asked about this, a spokesperson for the Eurythmics claimed that neither Dave nor Annie knew about it. But you'd think they would have asked Durn Duran instead, I mean... come on!!! LOL! In a perfect world, Simon, in a perfect world ... And re: Paula's earlier comment about the Amazon import of Frantic: has anyone ordered this AND received it yet? Susan ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 12:18:20 -0600 From: "paula brown" Subject: Re: [AVALON] It's still the same old movie I'd read that Ferry loves West Ireland and uses it for a retreat. Must have been in an interview. Paula - ----- Original Message ----- From: InterEireann@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 10:47 AM To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: Re: [AVALON] It's still the same old movie My brother has just bought a house in the west of Ireland and the locals claim that Mr. Ferry owns the propery next door and pops into the local for a pint now and again..I can just imagine him with a flat cap and pint of Guiness in hand and woodbine in the other blending into that country life. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2002 12:20:55 -0600 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: [AVALON] Stateside nervous nellies At 12:55 PM 3/6/2002 -0500, Theresa Fagan wrote: >If you, like me, are afraid that Frantic is not going to be released in the >US of A in a timely manner, you can get it on pre-order from Amazon UK for >under $19. (including shipping). A bargain! My favorite UK store on the web, http://www.action-records.co.uk, still doesn't have FRANTIC listed (though the limited-edition Roxy/Ferry remasters -- listed as "Japanese reproduction," which makes me think they're YMO covering the albums in their entirety, which would be quite interesting indeed -- seem to be available). And my favorite end-around for import releases at good prices, http://www.hmv.com (the Canadian branch of HMV, where you can take advantage of the strong US dollar vs. its northern counterpart), doesn't have a FRANTIC entry yet either. Here's an idea, though I haven't floated it past the man himself yet: Why couldn't us luckless statesiders just buy from Reecey? Personally, I'd much rather send my money to a person who's done so much to support the Avalon community, instead of sending it to the Amazon.com coffers. Reecey, you up for this? later, Miles ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 19:15:38 +0100 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: Re: [AVALON] Frantic At 19.14 +0100 2-03-06, paula brown wrote: >So how IS Lemmy? Every single time I've been to the Rainbow Bar & Grill >in LA for pizza, Lemmy has been there. He must live right by it or >something. The drummer says in the interview that they serve the best pizza in the world at the Rainbow Bar & Grill in LA. I did not speak to Lemmy. He's in LA. The drummer lives in Gothenburg. Frantic gets better and better. NP Bryan Ferry, Goddess of Love Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 19:17:44 +0100 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: Re: [AVALON] Stateside nervous nellies At 18.55 +0100 2-03-06, Theresa Fagan wrote: >If you, like me, are afraid that Frantic is not going to be released in the >US of A in a timely manner, you can get it on pre-order from Amazon UK for >under $19. (including shipping). A bargain! That's the listprice in Sweden. :-) NP Bryan Ferry, Don't think twice... (with our cat Gustaf's meows) Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 10:36:54 -0800 (PST) From: Johnny Reece Subject: Re: [AVALON] Stateside nervous nellies - --- Miles Goosens wrote: > couldn't us luckless statesiders just buy from > Reecey? Personally, I'd > much rather send my money to a person who's done so > much to support the > Avalon community, instead of sending it to the > Amazon.com coffers. Reecey, > you up for this? Thanks for thinking of me, but it would still be cheaper for you to go to Amazon. Because I am an independent retailer, the cost price to me, from Virgin, would be approximately #10.29 each plus VAT. Then there would be postage on top to the USA. Hey, that's UK prices for you - they won't budge unless I had a 'corporate account', and would be ordering in bulk. Even then I think the rate would be 10 'free' for every 300 ordered. Ever wondered why independents go down ?.... However, I am looking into the possibility of getting a few Vinyl editions of Frantic in (if the release on that format actually happens this time) as it is something quite a few Avalonians may want, and find hard to get normally. Even now I still get requests for Taxi and Mamouna on Vinyl, though they are very hard to locate now. ATGB was due a Vinyl release, though that was shelved completely when the single bombed. Hopefully Frantic won't suffer the same fate. If anyone may want Frantic on Vinyl if it appears, do mail me offlist with the subject line 'Frantic Vinyl'. (Sorry to do this suggestion onlist, but I can't think of any other possible way to guess which Avalonians may want it on that format !) and I'll see what I can do, will let you know... Reecey... Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! http://mail.yahoo.com/ ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 13:09:16 -0600 From: "paula brown" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Frantic Well, rehearsal must be a challenge! What am I saying? It's Motorhead. Yes, very good pizza. Any place that devotes an entire nook to Alice Cooper is okay by me. Paula - ----- Original Message ----- From: Daniel Atterbom Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 12:24 PM To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: Re: [AVALON] Frantic At 19.14 +0100 2-03-06, paula brown wrote: >So how IS Lemmy? Every single time I've been to the Rainbow Bar & Grill >in LA for pizza, Lemmy has been there. He must live right by it or >something. The drummer says in the interview that they serve the best pizza in the world at the Rainbow Bar & Grill in LA. I did not speak to Lemmy. He's in LA. The drummer lives in Gothenburg. Frantic gets better and better. NP Bryan Ferry, Goddess of Love Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 13:09:56 -0600 From: "paula brown" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Stateside nervous nellies I'm very jealous of you folk with promos. Paula - ----- Original Message ----- From: Daniel Atterbom Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 12:24 PM To: Theresa Fagan; avalon@smoe.org Subject: Re: [AVALON] Stateside nervous nellies At 18.55 +0100 2-03-06, Theresa Fagan wrote: >If you, like me, are afraid that Frantic is not going to be released in the >US of A in a timely manner, you can get it on pre-order from Amazon UK for >under $19. (including shipping). A bargain! That's the listprice in Sweden. :-) NP Bryan Ferry, Don't think twice... (with our cat Gustaf's meows) Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 14:19:21 -0500 (EST) From: Colleen Matan Subject: RE: [AVALON] New MailingList; AVALON On Wed, 6 Mar 2002, Judy Kaufman wrote: > >From: Mr Avalon > > >+special prizes each week to the person who can attach the most words > >back and add the fewest new words > > Could we have a sub-category prize for the post with the most > "subliminable footers" NOT edited out? Whatever you do, don't tell him about the old I.Q. test that used to be the footer! Seriously folks, it's gotten kind of ridiculous as of late with the high traffic on the list and people quoting back messages upon messages just to add one line. As a simple courtesy to our digest members (and to everyone else) please edit the text of your reply to quote only the most relevant sections of a previous post. Post after post which contain all of the previous responses make the digest virtually unreadable at times. If you don't know how to use your mail program to do this, perhaps someone at the help line or your company's User Support group can assist you. Thank you. Colleen (trying to stay one step ahead of "Mr. Avalon") ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 20:30:52 +0100 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: Re: [AVALON] Stateside nervous nellies At 20.09 +0100 2-03-06, paula brown wrote: > >I'm very jealous of you folk with promos. Well it's a fringe. But today I had to shelve a freelance writer's story because the Swedish artist -- unknown to you -- objected to it (with is ok by me, he was promised to read it and if he says that the quotes are of context he can state his case with the Press council and I would prefer no to go there). I then had to redo the interview myself -- without getting THAT promo. The artist and I have done this before. I write the questions and he e-mails the answers. But I prefer to listen to the stuff before writing about it. Np Bryan Ferry, Cruel (the Dylan covers are not as good are they?) Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2002 13:48:30 -0600 From: Miles Goosens Subject: RE: [AVALON] New MailingList; AVALON At 02:19 PM 3/6/2002 -0500, Colleen Matan wrote: >Seriously folks, it's gotten kind of ridiculous as of late with the high >traffic on the list and people quoting back messages upon messages just to >add one line. As a simple courtesy to our digest members (and to everyone >else) please edit the text of your reply to quote only the most relevant >sections of a previous post. Post after post which contain all of the >previous responses make the digest virtually unreadable at times. If you >don't know how to use your mail program to do this, perhaps someone at the >help line or your company's User Support group can assist you. Or as I said to my Wire list, who used to be particularly troublesome about this issue: >The one issue that I feel like I've run into the ground is the quoting >issue, but since a goodly minority of listmembers keep sending one-line >posts with the original message quoted in its entirety, provoking both on- >and off-list complaints (and generating two sizable digests per day!), >perhaps this bears repeating: > > (1) Please do quote the message you are replying to, > but only quote the RELEVANT part of the original > message. > > (2) If all you are going to add to the original > message is one line, perhaps you should think > twice about sending this message to 240+ people. Make that 450+ people in Avalon's case. >Colleen (trying to stay one step ahead of "Mr. Avalon") I think that's even more futile than trying to cut down on the quoting! We cannot hope to get ahead of Mr. Avalon, we can only hope that he doesn't lap us... later, Miles ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 14:08:16 -0600 From: "Bill " Subject: [AVALON] It's All Over Now Baby Blue I think AMAZON.COM Deutschland is offering the CD single. Its All Over Now, Baby Blue Bryan Ferry Preis: EUR 6,99 Dieser Artikel erscheint voraussichtlich am 18. Mdrz 2002. Sie kvnnen ihn jetzt bestellen und wir verschicken ihn, sobald er verf|gbar ist. Ab EUR 20 |bernehmen wir das Porto. Alle Details finden Sie hier. Erscheinungsdatum: 18. Mdrz 2002 Label: 1 Virgin G (Virgin/EMI Vertrieb) ASIN: B000063DUI Format: Maxi-CD Amazon.de Verkaufsrang: 12.977 N P The DOORS :: Bright Midnight LIVE ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 14:19:26 -0600 From: "paula brown" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Stateside nervous nellies What, integrity in journalism? What are you, a rebel? Trying to ruin it for everyone else? I used to live with a (minor) rock journalist. I assure you she placed no such contrictions on herself. But I know the feeling. I recently got roped into "managing," using the term very loosely, some olf friends of mine who spun off a band from their original old punk band from the seventies, the Nervebreakers, for whom I was "band bodyguard" and "No. # Nervette" at the time, which basically meant I made excuses for them to keep them out of trouble with their women. All I've asked for is a sampler CD to solicit clubs with, which is being remixed, and which I can tell already will never make it into my hands. So I'm not doing anything at all unless I get it. If all they want is random gigs, that's up to them. If they want me to put them someplace where they'll at least break even, I need something to work with. I love musicians, but trying to get them organized is usually well-nigh impossible. I pretty much know that Dylan stuff won't be my cup of tea. But I'm certain I'll like it better than the Dylan versions! Paula From: Daniel Atterbom "But I prefer to listen to the stuff before writing about it." ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 11:19:23 -0500 From: "M" Subject: [AVALON] Where are those imports? > And re: Paula's earlier comment about the Amazon import of Frantic: has > anyone ordered this AND received it yet? I pre-ordered it from a record store on the West Coast and have not received anything, not even an e-mail to say that it's been delayed. Oh well. M ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ A young New Yorker called M Was frequently seen with old men Described as fantastic She preferred lots of plastic Especially Barbie and Ken. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 11:01:21 -0500 From: "M" Subject: Re: [AVALON] OFF-TOPIC - career development for other 80s rock stars/dream > Apparantly when asked about this, a spokesperson for the Eurythmics claimed that neither Dave nor Annie knew about it. But you'd think they would have asked Durn Duran instead, I mean... come on!!! > Duran are too busy working on their non-existent album! (I think the release has been delayed until the end of the year.) I had a dream a couple of nights ago about Roxy playing in a high school gymnasium. Bryan accidentally hit me on the head with his elbow, I fell down in front of him after the show, and a friend and I went out with Lucy and Bryan afterwards. He also complained that he kept seeing the same faces backstage and it was boring. Dreams! M ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ A young New Yorker called M Was frequently seen with old men Described as fantastic She preferred lots of plastic Especially Barbie and Ken. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 15:48:41 EST From: Helchat@AOL.COM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Where are those imports? In a message dated 3/6/2002 12:12:10 PM Pacific Standard Time, m@vivaroxymusic.com writes: > I pre-ordered it from a record store on the West Coast and have not > received anything, not even an e-mail to say that it's been delayed. Oh > well. > hey, i'm on the west coast! Please advise which store you ordered it from. Thanks, Helene ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 16:23:29 EST From: OBrienFerry@AOL.COM Subject: [AVALON] Frantic USA & elsewhere The release date for Frantic in USA, Japan, Australia etc has not been finalised but I am told it will not be much different than 15th April, maybe 1 or 2 weeks different J.O'B. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2002 16:53:58 -0500 From: "Maggie Curran" Subject: [AVALON] Au contraire, Miles! Avalon is NOT an Unpleasant Land Must take issue with Miles' recent post that Avalon is an "Unpleasant Land." Miles, were you implying that the recent administrative changes to the Avalon mail system would bring peace to the valley? I hope not! I very much enjoy the spirited discussions that often take place on Avalon and doubt any of us would stay tuned if our discussions lost their sting. Of course we are fractious. We are a group with highly selective preferences and we can be impatient when expectations aren't met. But unpleasant, WE ARE NOT! The individuals I've had the opportunity to meet and know in Avalon Land have been unanimously generous in sharing their knowledge and experiences with other Roxy/ Ferry devotees. Never ever knew that Avalon List was an Uunpleasant Land until Miles told us. Best regards, Maggie NP: R-E-S-P-E-C-T Aretha Franklin Vive la resistance Bete Noire _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2002 13:54:18 -0800 From: David Firmin Subject: [AVALON] Warming up? Chris Spedding is going to play at Cozy's Bar & Grill in Sherman Oaks on March 28th. David *** ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2002 21:59:38 +0000 From: stevesiren2 Subject: [AVALON] Ferry Book Giveaway I've had over a dozen enquiries about the book, much more than I anticipated, including a couple who were electronically flirting with me! So I decided the fairest way to resolve it was to put all the names in a hat & draw one out, & the winner is:- Bill wilmar77@bellsouth.net, who coincidentally was also the first to ask. Thank you all for your interest Steve (who thinks that Frantic is the best Roxy or Ferry album since Siren) ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2002 22:15:01 +0000 From: stevesiren2 Subject: Re: [AVALON] Stateside nervous nellies Johnny Reece wrote: > Ever wondered why independents go down ?.... > > Reecey, this is a side of you I never knew existed! Steve > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 18:07:05 -0500 (EST) From: Colleen Matan Subject: [AVALON] all your seasick sailors SPOILERS! SPOILERS! SPOILERS AHEAD! On Wed, 6 Mar 2002, Daniel Atterbom wrote: > Np Bryan Ferry, Cruel (the Dylan covers are not as good are they?) They're not? Daniel are you being ironic? ;-) I love the Dylan covers (as much as I do the originals by Bob himself). "It's All Over Now Baby Blue" harkens back to that earlier sound of Ferry's that I absolutely adore--I can't describe it any better than to say it is "elastic"--it has that perfect pop sound from Ferry's mid-career covers albums, but with a more, I dunno, serious edge (meaning in this case that it's not as cutesy as "A Hard Rain's Gonna Fall") provided by Chris Spedding's playing on the bridge. It's quite a change from the languid-verging-on-stuporific* ditties he's been recording these last few years. Or many years, I guess. This sound, taken in context with the lyrics, is a pretty powerful start to the album. (OK, not as sophisticated and incredible as "Love War" would have been, but it does set a tone for the album and its timing.) "Don't Think Twice" is one of my very favorite songs of all time anyway, but I love Ferry's take on it. In contrast to to "Baby Blue," it's subdued and a thoughtful pause after the rather, uh, frantic and funky series of "Baby Blue," "Cruel," "Goin Down," and "Goddess of Love." It's simpler and elegant and the softened, rippling, and persistent, yet the strangely piano-player like piano accompaniment ties it into the songs which precede it. I can't comment on how the originals compare to their previous incarnations since it's been 4 months since I heard them, but I have to agree with Steve that this may well be Ferry's best work since _Siren_. Colleen "Nobody Loves Me" Matan *OK, so I made up that word. But some of that music makes you sleepy AND dull. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2002 15:28:11 -0800 From: nskoffsr@koff.org Subject: [AVALON] Concord 2001 Hey, does anyone who was at this show recall TGPT breaking into the drum intro to "Ain't That So" and then -- stopping dead in his tracks, so to speak -- and "Oh Yeah" commencing? Warmest regards, Nick N/P: Oh Yeah / Concord 2001 Roxy Trade Page: http://boootlegs.com/roxy.htm Roxy Trade Page - Text Only: http://boootlegs.com/bootxt04.htm Other Trade Stuff: http://boootlegs.com/ ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 19:13:36 -0500 From: "Victor Hastings" Subject: Taxi on vinyl (was Re: [AVALON] Stateside nervous nellies) - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Johnny Reece" > Even now I still get requests for Taxi and Mamouna on > Vinyl, though they are very hard to locate now. I was able to get Mamouna on vinyl through eBay, but I have looked in vain for Taxi. Does it exist as an LP? ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2002 16:17:48 -0800 (PST) From: Johnny Reece Subject: [AVALON] Re: Taxi on vinyl - --- Victor Hastings wrote: > I have looked in vain > for Taxi. Does it exist as an LP?>>> Sure does, and there were definitely more of Taxi pressed on Vinyl than Mamouna, because of the 'hits' count. Am still constantly looking for more of both for a long list of people... Reecey... Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! http://mail.yahoo.com/ ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2002 16:28:03 -0800 From: William Sommers Subject: Re: [AVALON] Concord 2001 At 03:28 PM 3/6/02 -0800, nskoffsr@koff.org wrote: > Hey, does anyone who was at this show recall TGPT breaking into the > drum intro to "Ain't That So" and then -- stopping dead in his tracks, > so to speak -- and "Oh Yeah" commencing? Though I don't specifically recall it being ATS at the moment, yes, it did happen... (and I most certainly do recall breaking out in laughter and Mr. Dillon turning to me in similar frame of amusement). All part of the show's charm. No editing needed! -wfs ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2002 19:28:59 -0500 From: Subject: Re: [AVALON] Au contraire, Miles! Avalon is NOT an Unpleasant Land Maggie Curran wrote: > Must take issue with Miles' recent post that Avalon is >an "Unpleasant Land." >Miles, were you implying that the recent administrative >changes to the Avalon mail system would bring peace to >the valley? I hope not! I very much enjoy the spirited >discussions that often take place on Avalon and doubt >any of us would stay tuned if our discussions lost their >sting. Of course we are fractious. We are a group with >highly selective preferences and we can be impatient when >expectations aren't met. But unpleasant, WE ARE NOT! The >individuals I've had the opportunity to meet >and know in Avalon Land have been unanimously >generous in sharing their knowledge and experiences >with other Roxy/ Ferry devotees. Never ever knew that >Avalon List was an Uunpleasant Land until Miles told us. Maggie, I had drafted a longer reply, but I've shelved it because really, what I have to say all boils down to these few points: * No one wants a less spirited discussion or unamimity of opinion. What I want to see, as do others, is a spirited discussion that doesn't devolve into personal insults, on- and off-list harrassment, posting of private messages to the list, veiled threats and intimidation, or any of the other things that we've seen go on here in recent years. I can't claim the expansive mail list experience of Mr. Somers, but I've been on music lists since getting a modem in 1993, and this behavior happens far more on Avalon than on the any of the other lists to which I've belonged. I'm sorry if you felt personally insulted by my characterization of the list's nature -- there's something of a distinction to be made between people who subscribe to Avalon and the tenor of the actual discussions. Not everyone, not even a majority of vocal members indulge in this unpleasant behavior. (Heck, a *true* of Avalonians are lurkers who rarely post if they post at all! Which is something that ought to change too, but I digress.) And I apologize to you or anyone else who felt unjustly tarred by my brush. It does minimize the *good* things that go on here. But I don't withdraw the comment either, because I *do* think that a lot can be changed for the better. Fortunately, the foundation for that change for the better doesn't have to made out of whole cloth (egad, I'm mixmastering the metaphors!), but already exists on the list. Which serves as a transition into the next point, which is an unremittingly positive one... * A lot of the most positive things that have happened here spun out of the 2000 Ferry and 2001 Roxy tours, where people helped each other get tickets, planned meetings, went to the shows, wrote to the list about the meetings and shows, and were otherwise on their best behavior. Or I think of something like when Laura Shadbolt joined the list -- her exultation of discovery, sharing, and pure joy! That spirit of community and fun never quite goes away, and many listfolk already do quite a bit to promote it. It's that spirit that I'd love to see become the *focus* of the list, even in the long spells between albums and tours. Hopefully this is a shared goal, and something we can all work toward. * If everyone on this list exhibited the enthusiasm and generosity that you have -- both on- and off-list, as I've had the pleasure of meeting you in Atlanta last year -- it would be pure Ferrytopia. best always, Miles ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V7 #87 *************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest