From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V7 #85 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Tuesday, March 5 2002 Volume 07 : Number 085 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [AVALON] The Natural Life Cycle Of Mailing Lists [Daniel Atterbom ] [AVALON] RE: Sonic Sirens Sapling ["seely31" ] Re: [AVALON] FRANTIC ["paula brown" ] Re: [AVALON] Les Inrockuptibles [David ] Re: [AVALON] well, that was fun, wasn't it? [David ] Re: [AVALON] well, that was fun, wasn't it? ["paula brown" ] Re: [AVALON] well, that was fun, wasn't it? [Colleen Matan ] Re: [AVALON] well, that was fun, wasn't it? [Miles Goosens ] Re: [AVALON] well, that was fun, wasn't it? [Heather James ] Re: [AVALON] Reply to and list rule shite... [KB Porter ] Re: [AVALON] well, that was fun, wasn't it? ["Simon Galloway" ] RE: [AVALON] It's still the same old movie ["Fiske, Jocelyn" Subject: [AVALON] The Natural Life Cycle Of Mailing Lists My most posted link: The Natural Life Cycle Of Mailing Lists http://www.swopnet.com/misc/Mailing_Lists_Life_Cycle.html NP The Verve, The Drugs don't work (and yes they do not, one misses one's dead ones) Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2002 10:48:36 +0000 From: "Christian H. Soetemann" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Reply to and list rule shite... But England does already have at least one very qualified dentist, namely Neil Jones! Christian - ---------- >Von: jason and jill >An: avalon@smoe.org >Betreff: [AVALON] Reply to and list rule shite... >Datum: Die, 5. Mr 2002 0:06 Uhr > > I most abjectly and humbly >appologize for my offending any kind British soul with such an offensive >American reference, and promise to make it up to the UK by, for the rest >of my life, working to raise enough money to send a qualified dentist to >England. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 05:00:00 EST From: KWil632057@AOL.COM Subject: [AVALON] frantic spoilers Writers tend to get material from experience but I can assure you that 20 years of happy marriage makes for very dull, tedious material. This is Bryan Ferry, the Dark Squire we are talking about hear, not Julie Andrews! Jonathan Who feels dentists should stay in the USA, if only to wire up their jaws. ;0) I'm sure you can interpret it any way you want, but considering she broke up with Bryan something like a quarter of a century ago, and that Bry has been married for something like two decades, I would very much like to think that he has nothing more to say on the subject of Jerry (and indeed, since 1987, he hasn't, and then only to deny that "Kiss and Tell" was about her) and that the ongoing notion or assumption that Jerry Hall has any more impact or relevance in his life than any other old girlfriend is massively false, ill-informed and offensive to Bryan and to his family, considering how disrespectful it would be to his wife of twenty years to go around writing songs about an 18-month flame when Jimmy Carter was president. Good grief, that was a long sentence. - --Grant ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2002 07:49:36 -0500 From: KB Porter Subject: Re: [AVALON] Admin note: "Reply-To:" function changed Jason reminisces: "Heh, I love not owning this list. :)" Yesterday's talk about some American footer made me think we should re-adopt the 'bickering numbnuts' of yesteryear tagline. Now how did that go, again? :) Best wishes, Jason. KBP ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 06:49:46 -0600 From: "Bill " Subject: [AVALON] "Reply-To" function .. ad nauseum.. ad infinitum I have a question... with regard to the folks that advocate the bogging down of this list with the minutiae of every decision of its administration... as evidenced by statements like > Basically I'm for keeping decisions about the list being made on the list. How many of us are involved in the actual LABOR of MAINTAINING the list as opposed to the number of us that are 100% passively enjoying the list and the information exchanged here? This is the more than minor element that is, in my opinion, not being given consideration with all the foot stomping about this barely significant and minor change. Unless I am mistaken, no one is paying for a subscription to the list, and someONE is VOLUNTEERING to administer the list. IMHO we should all keep this in mind when making requests or demands. My personal preference is for the list to be involved as close to 100% as possible with the music, as it seems to me that's why we all signed up. I will gladly adjust to any changes in functionality or quirks of its operation in order to maintain what is for me a crucial connective pipeline to my all time favorite artist. Sincerely, BILL - -----Original Message----- From: On Behalf Of S Clarke Subject: Re: [AVALON] "Reply-To:" function changed. > Basically I'm for keeping decisions about the list being made on the list. > > Best wishes, > Tom. I agree with this statement. I don't care for dictatorship, no matter how benign. Shelley ________________________________________________________________________ ___ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 23:59:20 +1100 From: "notdixon" Subject: [AVALON] Wilder weekend - US copies taken (Hey, this might work....) Howdy y'all! Well, the 2 US copies of the Wilder Weekend weed have been claimed, as has one of the European weeds. One European, and 2 rest of world discs still sitting here. C'mon folks - I'm off to the post office in 9 hours! Thanks - Doug ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2002 08:15:59 -0500 From: Heather James Subject: Re: [AVALON] "Reply-To" function .. ad nauseum.. ad infinitum Bravo, Bill ... well spoken! I know I'm looking forward to the Frantic release, based on the links snippets of music I've heard at the German Virgin website thanks to the links from John O'Brien - http://www.vivaroxymusic.com and the Tour info I've gotten from Chris Turner - http://www.roxyrama.com/ I have a LOT more interest in the music and what Ferry has been up to lately than I do the tedious details of managing the list. Thanks to Jason and Jill of Smoe for hosting our beloved list, and kudos to Colleen for taking over the management of the list - hope she's got a flameproof mail reader! -= )-(eather =- >--------------------< hjames@thewebgal.com The Roxy Music Archives: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ Music Trading Lists: http://www.thewebgal.com/hjames/trades.html Roxy Music Trade List: http://www.thewebgal.com/hjames/a-list.html Van Morrison Trade List: http://www.thewebgal.com/hjames/van-list.html >-----------------------------------------------------------------------< Bill wrote: > I have a question... with regard to the folks that advocate the bogging > down of this list with the minutiae of every decision of its > administration... > > My personal preference is for the list to be involved as close to 100% > as possible with the music, as it seems to me that's why we all signed > up. I will gladly adjust to any changes in functionality or quirks of > its operation in order to maintain what is for me a crucial connective > pipeline to my all time favorite artist. > > Sincerely, > > BILL > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2002 08:34:34 -0500 From: KB Porter Subject: Re: [AVALON] "Reply-To" function .. ad nauseum.. ad infinitum "Bravo, Bill ... well spoken!" Bravo, Heather ... well spoken, too! I'm getting more excited by the day waiting for "Frantic" to be released. Perhaps "Frantic" is a very good name for the album - Mr. Ferry must have anticipated our brewing emotions as we await its release when naming the upcoming album. :) The sound clips from Germany Virgin are so good to hear. Sounds like we may have a bit of 'rockinroll' on the album, too! Does anyone know when "Frantic" is to be released in the United States? Also is anyone able to confirm the tour will bring BF here, and to which locations? Viva Bryan Ferry!!! KBP ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2002 08:39:16 -0500 From: Heather James Subject: Re: [AVALON] Wilder weekend - More US copies available! Well, I'll carry on with the good work started by Doug and Grant, and the "back to the Music theme" from Bill earlier today ... I am offering five copies of A Wilder Weekend to list members. It features one of the better segueways of the classic Roxy-dom ... For Your Pleasure /Diamond Head ... the setlist and cover art can be found here: http://www.thewebgal.com/hjames/rmbf-70.html I'm expecting at least three of the people responding to commit that they will tree it on-list as well. *People who have agreed to tree it get their copies made first. If you tell me that you will tree it and you fail to do so, then I will not copy for you again. If you would like a copy of this boot, you must: 1. Be willing to send a good-quality blank and a SASE for your copy. 2. Be one of the first five people to reply to this offer. 3. Tell me whether you're willing to make copies for others (about three or four folks, nothing excessive). 4. Reply by Sunday the 10th. 5. Understand that if you don't hear back from me, you must take my silence as a polite apology, that you were not one of the five. 6. Reply to me, and not the list. That would be silly. (Tree rules ver 02-1, courtesy of Grant) -= )-(eather =- >--------------------< hjames@thewebgal.com The Roxy Music Archives: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ Music Trading Lists: http://www.thewebgal.com/hjames/trades.html Roxy Music Trade List: http://www.thewebgal.com/hjames/a-list.html Van Morrison Trade List: http://www.thewebgal.com/hjames/van-list.html >-----------------------------------------------------------------------< notdixon wrote: > Howdy y'all! > Well, the 2 US copies of the Wilder Weekend weed have been claimed ... > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2002 08:38:28 -0500 From: "Grant Goggans" Subject: Re: [AVALON] well, that was fun, wasn't it? >Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2002 08:57:43 +0000 >From: "Tracy Connell" >Subject: Re: [AVALON] well, that was fun, wasn't it? > >I'm not wanting to make a fuss or make any enemies, but I don't think we >should be told what we can discuss either. Seconded. I thought this was Avalon, not Elephant Talk. - --Grant _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 14:07:51 -0000 From: "terrypaulrigz8c" Subject: [AVALON] The Chain Gang Anyone fed up with all this NON ROXY/FERRY talk reply to this E-Mail saying so, this may encourage those folks who are more interested in e-mail politics than Avalon itself to go private. Terry "O" PS: thank you J O'B for something sensible and interesting to read instead of the Avalonian dessert. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 09:11:03 -0500 From: "seely31" Subject: [AVALON] RE: Sonic Sirens Sapling Thanks to the hard work and generosity of Mr. Grant Goggans, I am pleased to become one of the branches of the Sonic Siren tree. I will be making 8 copies and sending them to the first respondants. Just follow these simple rules: 1. Whatever you do, don't hit that "Reply to" button, for God's sake..oh, wait a minute, I guess you can. 2. Understand that I burn on Maxell discs. If you want something else, you will need to send them along to me. 3. I would love a trade, especially for shows I'm missing from last year's tour, but happy to do a B and P. Pete Seely ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 09:49:04 -0600 From: "paula brown" Subject: Re: [AVALON] FRANTIC I like your phraseology, "cool ruler." Well, he seemed to have packed it in before the Roxy tour and now we're seeing a second reign, lucky us! Paula - ----- Original Message ----- From: Rob Whiteford Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 2:50 AM To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: Re: [AVALON] FRANTIC Some things never change...............The audio clips sound vibrant and even commercial. So Virgin don't release a single until after the album. I can't be the only one who thinks a bit hit single from Ferry would be the best strategy for Virgin and his record sales. Still it's a relief to see the album is coming out and ANOTHER tour to look forward to. I was concerned the cool ruler would pack it in after the Roxy tour. Hope to see some of you at the UK shows. Cheers Rob ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 Mar 2002 14:39:01 -0500 From: David Subject: Re: [AVALON] Les Inrockuptibles The best way is a free little program called CDEX, available on Cnet.com. I use it all of the time. At 05:10 PM 3/1/2002 +0100, you wrote: >Got it Chris ! > >Don't think twice it's allright ... > >and its somptueux. >Great harmonica. > >What's the better way to convert in mp3 ? >Can I make it with easy CD creator ? > >Then I could put the title on Audiogalaxy > >Don't think twice it's allright ... >Franck > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Chris Turner" >To: "Avalon" >Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 2:09 PM >Subject: [AVALON] Les Inrockuptibles > > > > To our French friends: > > > > I'm told that a track from Bryan Ferry's new album - namely 'Don't Think > > Twice, It's Alright' appears on the cover disc of this month's "Les > > Inrockuptibles" magazine in France. > > > > Chris > > > > > > >___________________________________________________________________________ > > The subliminable footer says: > > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > > unsubscribe avalon > > >___________________________________________________________________________ >The subliminable footer says: >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon Cheers, David CPL593H! - Bryan Ferry, 1972 Check out my website- Shakatak, Fashion, Peter Godwin, Atlanta Bands, Chandler, Hamlet, lots of cool stuff! http://www.America.net/~davdmock ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2002 10:25:49 -0500 From: David Subject: Re: [AVALON] well, that was fun, wasn't it? I've never been afraid of making a fuss. I say we discuss whatever we want. At 08:38 AM 3/5/2002 -0500, you wrote: >>I'm not wanting to make a fuss or make any enemies, but I don't think we >>should be told what we can discuss either. > >Seconded. I thought this was Avalon, not Elephant Talk. > >--Grant Cheers, David CPL593H! - Bryan Ferry, 1972 Check out my website- Shakatak, Fashion, Peter Godwin, Atlanta Bands, Chandler, Hamlet, lots of cool stuff! http://www.America.net/~davdmock ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 09:53:49 -0600 From: "paula brown" Subject: Re: [AVALON] well, that was fun, wasn't it? I agree, up to a point, of course. We can rehash RM/BF history ad infinitim, but I want to get to know more about the people on the list than simply what RM/BF history they know. I wonder why this list, with all its incarnations, hasn't evolved to a board format where photos can be posted, etc. No messy emails to quibble about unless you choose. I'm sure as so many people are so fond of the list that there are good reasons, and I'm a newbie, but just curious what the opinion of the list members, not necessarily administration, is on that. Paula - ----- Original Message ----- From: Tracy Connell Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 3:03 AM To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: Re: [AVALON] well, that was fun, wasn't it? I'm not wanting to make a fuss or make any enemies, but I don't think we should be told what we can discuss either. Tracy >--the reply-to conversation is closed down as as on-list discussion _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 15:57:05 -0000 From: "ncjones.lewis2" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Reply to and list rule shite... Well....not qualified in the official sense......more self taught if you know what I mean. BTW how are things in sunny.............. . (please fill in the space.) Neil Jones - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christian H. Soetemann" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 10:48 AM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Reply to and list rule shite... > But England does already have at least one very qualified dentist, namely > Neil Jones! > > Christian > > ---------- > >Von: jason and jill > >An: avalon@smoe.org > >Betreff: [AVALON] Reply to and list rule shite... > >Datum: Die, 5. Mr 2002 0:06 Uhr > > > > > I most abjectly and humbly > >appologize for my offending any kind British soul with such an offensive > >American reference, and promise to make it up to the UK by, for the rest > >of my life, working to raise enough money to send a qualified dentist to > >England. > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 10:00:34 -0600 From: "paula brown" Subject: Re: [AVALON] frantic spoilers Well put! Although it could be said the Dark Squire is alive with the sound of music, or Cool Ruler, as Rob has named him (and high time he got a fresh moniker!) Paula From: KWil632057@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] frantic spoilers >"Writers tend to get material from experience but I can assure you that 20 years of happy marriage makes for very dull, tedious material. This is Bryan Ferry, the Dark Squire we are talking about hear, not Julie Andrews! Jonathan" ">I'm sure you can interpret it any way you want, but considering she broke up with Bryan something like a quarter of a century ago, and that Bry has been married for something like two decades, I would very much like to think that he has nothing more to say on the subject of Jerry (and indeed, since 1987, he hasn't, and then only to deny that "Kiss and Tell" was about her) and that the ongoing notion or assumption that Jerry Hall has any more impact or relevance in his life than any other old girlfriend is massively false, ill-informed and offensive to Bryan and to his family, considering how disrespectful it would be to his wife of twenty years to go around writing songs about an 18-month flame when Jimmy Carter was president. - --Grant" ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 10:58:22 -0500 (EST) From: Colleen Matan Subject: Re: [AVALON] well, that was fun, wasn't it? On Tue, 5 Mar 2002, paula brown wrote: > I agree, up to a point, of course. We can rehash RM/BF history ad > infinitim, but I want to get to know more about the people on the list > than simply what RM/BF history they know. I wonder why this list, with > all its incarnations, hasn't evolved to a board format where photos can > be posted, etc. No messy emails to quibble about unless you choose. > I'm sure as so many people are so fond of the list that there are good > reasons, and I'm a newbie, but just curious what the opinion of the list > members, not necessarily administration, is on that. First, there is a list homepage at http://www.roxytalk.co.uk/ with photos and brief bios of those who have chosen to add their info. Chris kindly posted this address yesterday to the Avalon mailing list and it's an excellent resource for folks new to the list. Second, by virtue of its intrinsic nature and the fact it uses a mail program based format, Avalon is a music discussion mailing list, and for all of its incarnations, it has remained exactly that. It has no need to "evolve to a board format." It is what it is. To be sure, it does difer greatly from a web-based discussion board (hence my comments about "push v. pull" formats the other day along the same topic lines), but I suspect the great majority of the 450 of us here prefer that. Colleen (speaking as a list member) ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2002 10:15:36 -0600 From: Miles Goosens Subject: Re: [AVALON] well, that was fun, wasn't it? At 09:53 AM 3/5/2002 -0600, paula brown wrote: > I agree, up to a point, of course. We can rehash RM/BF history ad >infinitim, but I want to get to know more about the people on the list than >simply what RM/BF history they know. I'm not sure if this addresses all your concerns, but there are plenty of member profiles peppered with fun facts and fotos at http://www.roxytalk.co.uk, a project started by faboo former webmistress Kiki Gustafsson and now hosted by Chris Turner (Chris mentioned the site yesterday in the reply-to discussion). I'm sure this site and its member profiles will be mentioned in the new list welcome message, and I think viewing these pages would go a long way toward you getting to know more about listmembers. later, Miles ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2002 07:59:21 -0800 From: David Firmin Subject: Re: [AVALON] FRANTIC I was very skeptical at first. The two spoilers I've heard have changed my tune. I think it's going to be a great album, although none of the reviews of the whole album have convinced me. Maybe some people are disappointed that Ferry isn't following his same formula. I've only heard snippets of Cruel and Nobody Loves Me. Those alone will make me go out and buy the album. So, I guess giving us a little teaser is a good idea? You were right Dillon :) David on 3/5/02 12:49 AM, Rob Whiteford at robert@rwhiteford.freeserve.co.uk wrote: > Some things never change...............The audio clips sound vibrant and > even commercial. So Virgin don't release a single until after the album. I > can't be the only one who thinks a bit hit single from Ferry would be the > best strategy for Virgin and his record sales. > > Still it's a relief to see the album is coming out and ANOTHER tour to look > forward to. I was concerned the cool ruler would pack it in after the Roxy > tour. > > Hope to see some of you at the UK shows. > > Cheers > > Rob *** ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2002 11:17:32 -0500 From: Heather James Subject: Re: [AVALON] well, that was fun, wasn't it? paula brown wrote: > I wonder why this list, with all its > incarnations, hasn't evolved to a board format where photos can be > posted, etc. No messy emails to quibble about unless you choose. > There are lots of formats for "community" on the web - some involve more active management/participation. Having built/managed a large site with chatrooms, BBS and the like, I can tell you that it take a lot of energy to manage an interactive site. The email list is popular with folks who have a busy enough life already. And, there is no advertising like there would be on most web-based communities. By the way ... there was and IS a site for list members ... Started by Kicki and now hosted by Christ Turner ... welcome to http://www.roxytalk.co.uk/ -= )-(eather =- >--------------------< hjames@thewebgal.com The Roxy Music Archives: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ Music Trading Lists: http://www.thewebgal.com/hjames/trades.html Roxy Music Trade List: http://www.thewebgal.com/hjames/a-list.html Van Morrison Trade List: http://www.thewebgal.com/hjames/van-list.html >-----------------------------------------------------------------------< > > Paula > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Tracy Connell > Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 3:03 AM > To: avalon@smoe.org > Subject: Re: [AVALON] well, that was fun, wasn't it? > > I'm not wanting to make a fuss or make any enemies, but I don't think we > should be told what we can discuss either. > > Tracy > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon > > > - -- ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2002 16:15:06 +0000 From: "Simon Galloway" Subject: Re: [AVALON] well, that was fun, wasn't it? >>> Miles Goosens 03/05 4:15 pm >>> > I think viewing these pages would go a long way > toward you getting to know more about listmembers. Hmm, mine's a tad out of date now. Must re-write and get new picture... SimonG ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 11:19:46 -0500 (EST) From: Colleen Matan Subject: Re: [AVALON] well, that was fun, wasn't it? On Tue, 5 Mar 2002, Simon Galloway wrote: > >>> Miles Goosens 03/05 4:15 pm >>> > > I think viewing these pages would go a long way > > toward you getting to know more about listmembers. > > Hmm, mine's a tad out of date now. Must re-write and get new picture... But Simon, you haven't aged a bit! Colleen ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2002 11:30:34 -0500 From: KB Porter Subject: Re: [AVALON] Reply to and list rule shite... "BTW how are things in sunny.............. . (please fill in the space.)" Don't Fall For The Bait, Christian! We don't want the dentist to know which side of the street is sunniest - you know, the drill - it's portable! And he's ground tooth filings to show for it, too! Hiding out, listening for the buzz....... KBP ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 10:36:43 -0600 From: "paula brown" Subject: Re: [AVALON] FRANTIC That John Dillon has a persistent habit of being right, doesn't he? Paula - ----- Original Message ----- From: David Firmin Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 10:16 AM To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: Re: [AVALON] FRANTIC I was very skeptical at first. The two spoilers I've heard have changed my tune. I think it's going to be a great album, although none of the reviews of the whole album have convinced me. Maybe some people are disappointed that Ferry isn't following his same formula. I've only heard snippets of Cruel and Nobody Loves Me. Those alone will make me go out and buy the album. So, I guess giving us a little teaser is a good idea? You were right Dillon :) David on 3/5/02 12:49 AM, Rob Whiteford at robert@rwhiteford.freeserve.co.uk wrote: > Some things never change...............The audio clips sound vibrant and > even commercial. So Virgin don't release a single until after the album. I > can't be the only one who thinks a bit hit single from Ferry would be the > best strategy for Virgin and his record sales. > > Still it's a relief to see the album is coming out and ANOTHER tour to look > forward to. I was concerned the cool ruler would pack it in after the Roxy > tour. > > Hope to see some of you at the UK shows. > > Cheers > > Rob *** ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2002 16:26:46 +0000 From: "Simon Galloway" Subject: Re: [AVALON] well, that was fun, wasn't it? That may be so, but my hair has grown! And I have a less fuzzy picture to use now... SimonG >>> Colleen Matan 03/05 4:19 pm >>> On Tue, 5 Mar 2002, Simon Galloway wrote: > >>> Miles Goosens 03/05 4:15 pm >>> > > I think viewing these pages would go a long way > > toward you getting to know more about listmembers. > > Hmm, mine's a tad out of date now. Must re-write and get new picture... But Simon, you haven't aged a bit! Colleen ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 10:37:52 -0600 From: "paula brown" Subject: Re: [AVALON] well, that was fun, wasn't it? Oh, thank you! I'll check it out! Paula - ----- Original Message ----- From: Miles Goosens Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 10:15 AM To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: Re: [AVALON] well, that was fun, wasn't it? At 09:53 AM 3/5/2002 -0600, paula brown wrote: > I agree, up to a point, of course. We can rehash RM/BF history ad >infinitim, but I want to get to know more about the people on the list than >simply what RM/BF history they know. I'm not sure if this addresses all your concerns, but there are plenty of member profiles peppered with fun facts and fotos at http://www.roxytalk.co.uk, a project started by faboo former webmistress Kiki Gustafsson and now hosted by Chris Turner (Chris mentioned the site yesterday in the reply-to discussion). I'm sure this site and its member profiles will be mentioned in the new list welcome message, and I think viewing these pages would go a long way toward you getting to know more about listmembers. later, Miles ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 16:34:41 -0000 From: "Chris Turner" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Reply to and list rule shite... I think this may give dictators a bad name... Chris - ----- Original Message ----- From: "jason and jill" > So give Colleen a break. Yeah, she's a dictator... ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 16:31:40 -0000 From: "Chris Turner" Subject: Re: [AVALON] well, that was fun, wasn't it? you may be overstating my ability to perform miracles.... ;0) Chris - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Heather James" > > ...'and now hosted by Christ Turner ... welcome to > http://www.roxytalk.co.uk/ ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2002 16:39:06 +0000 From: "Tracy Connell" Subject: Re: [AVALON] well, that was fun, wasn't it? I agree, I find Avalon a quicker format with a more personal touch as you are really talking to individuals and not a web page. Does that sound daft? Must update my profile on roxytalk too now that I think of it! Mind you there are some I know are more out of date than mine as they've been there since before I joined the list. Tracy >It has no need to >"evolve to a board format." It is what it is. To be sure, it does >difer >greatly from a web-based discussion board _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 16:58:43 -0000 From: "Chris Turner" Subject: [AVALON] Re: The List Website Re: The List Website Thanks to everyone who has contributed profiles and other material to the list homepage recently. An update will take place as soon as I overcome my current, er, 'password and memory' related issue. Really. Belatedly, I have been working on the tour reviews for the Roxy tour, and I am to be helped by listmember Jane Fraser who has kindly volunteered to wade through our spotty prose and turn it into English. . With AMA, TOTP2 and 50 tour dates to work through it's a mammoth challenge, so please be upstanding for a loud and sustained burst of applause for Jane's kindness Thanks Chris ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 17:30:39 -0000 From: "Fiske, Jocelyn" Subject: RE: [AVALON] It's still the same old movie Bahi wrote: >It's still the same old movie That's haunting me But which movie would that be? It's time for me to begin rambling incoherently about film titles. Something of this sort happens just once every year or two; Ages ago I started compiling a list of Ferry connected films for my own amusement and would you believe it every bloomin' time I started my boss expected me to do the work I'm paid for - how unreasonable is that. Needless to say, I never really got off the blocks. Anyway, the thread began in the same vein as yours Bahi. Prompted by the Frantic Polanski connection, Day For Night popped into my head . Hmm, Truffaut. Is there a pattern emerging. No Strange Delight, wasn't that a Dietrich Film which leads to Falling in love again. Dietrich leads to Von Stronheim, didn't someone post something mentioning him as a kick off point the other day (apologies but it all got lost somewhere in this mind-numbingly boring techno babble) As The world Turns, This Island Earth (aka war of the Planets). Then of course there's the obvious links to Casablanca, Brief Encounter, Elvis movies (Are you lonesome tonight, Baby I don't Care from Kid Creole) What A wonderful World (Life?) - pushing it a bit. Then the cast list. Monroe, Garbo, Jimmy Dean, Tonto, (sorry got carried away with the Cruel alliteration) And now, of course, the newly released connections to Hiroshima Mon Amour, Alphaville and Citizen Kane, oh and there's Gone With the Wind - the house was called Tara. You can dig up the movie references ad infinitum. As for European cinema vs Hollywood Silver Screen, I think it pans out fairly equally. What's always amused me is that Ferry constantly refers to his love of Americana in interview, that he wore mohair suits like Otis, drove (or more likely just parked) a clapped out old Studebaker as a student, was obsessed with the Warhol crowd etc etc, but a more European man you'd be hard pressed to encounter. He would make the lead in any Visconti film (and quite probably one or two of Fellini's!), he wears the mantle of world weary angst with aplomb. Ennui is his middle name (it's in his passport). Basically, he's a miserable old bugger- so that makes him filmically European! But I think he picks the names of these films not because he's seen them necessarily and is influenced by them or their plots, but because he likes the way the words sound or look on a page. Let's go back to Polanski again - wouldn't Repulsion be a great title for a Ferry toon (and an even better video) and a great starting point for a lyric that might bear no resemblance to the film? The lyrics of San Simeon don't take me to the Hearst hedonism of Xanadu, but they do make me think of another film. Eyes Wide Shut. Or even better still, Scandal (featuring the Profumo/Christine Keeler parties). I really must get out more. But maybe not to the pictures. Jocelyn ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V7 #85 *************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest