From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V7 #84 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Tuesday, March 5 2002 Volume 07 : Number 084 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [AVALON] "Reply-To:" nick's disfunction changed [KB Porter ] Re: [AVALON] "Reply-To:" function changed ["tmoq" ] Re: [AVALON] it's all very fuzzy ["tmoq" ] [AVALON] 'musicians' on bravo (am. TV) ["mark shanahan" ] [AVALON] Not *Another* Music Format?!! ["tmoq" ] re: [AVALON] Frantic (spoilers) ["Grant Goggans" ] RE: [AVALON] Admin note: "Reply-To:" function changed ["Will Frechette" ] Re: [AVALON] Frantic (spoilers) ["paula brown" ] RE: [AVALON] Admin note: "Reply-To:" function changed ["Will Frechette" ] Re: [AVALON] concord 2001 [Seely31@attbi.com] Re: [AVALON] "Reply-To:" function changed. ["S Clarke" ] Re: [AVALON] well, that was fun, wasn't it? ["Tracy Connell" Subject: Re: [AVALON] "Reply-To:" nick's disfunction changed Now this is just PLAIN STUPID. You KNEW you were sending that email to my private address. You INTENDED to send it to my private address. You should understand why I make these statements by reading the remainder of this post. Just yesterday you replied to an email written by Paula, entitled "Roxy glam mags", and you sent your reply to Avalon List only: [ Paula had written, > "P.S. Well, it's early, I know, but ever since the rules changed, I've gotten pretty much zero list mail. It's very lonely, especially with all the other boards down. < Your reply: "Sounds like great fun. If you were like me you'd already be scanning them and putting them up on the webpage, even if the webhost seems to have gone to sleep after disabling the site and the email for it... As someone pointed out, it's not as if new posts to the list didn't require typing avalone@smoe.org into the To: line!" ] Then, today, at 1:49 pm you managed an email, once again addressed to Avalon List only, stating; "Well, I think the reply-to change is a good one, but if there's so much contention between the different sides, Miles' post made me wonder if there isn't a way to NOT HAVE a reply-to -- thus forcing the poster to think even more clearly about who he wants to post to (if at all) before s(he) hits the send button..." Then only ten seconds later, you sent private email to me, addressed only to me. At 5:27 pm you send your little example to Avalon List about how email meant to be public was inadvertently sent privately. Oh. And guess what! 'I sent it to KBP who has forbidden me to write to her private email address'! Oh poor ol' nick - if only your past private emails to me had been not been so disgusting I would never have forbidden you to mail me!!! Given your past history here, nick...this just doesn't wash! np. Cheap Trick's Fill In The Blank ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2002 15:45:40 -0800 From: "N. S. Koff" Subject: Re: [AVALON] "Reply-To:" nick's disfunction changed At 03:41 PM 3/4/02, you wrote: >Now this is just PLAIN STUPID. You KNEW you were sending >that email to my private address. You INTENDED to send it >to my private address. You should understand why I make >these statements by reading the remainder of this post. As usual you're telling me what I know, and knew. It's extremely odd of you to make such strong declarative statements as that. I never intended to send it to you personally. In fact, it's more complicated than you know since when my main FROM: email address isn't this one -- so I have to change that whenever I want to post to Avalon as well -- as any number of bounced-the-first-time emails I thought I was sending show -- since posts to this newslist won't show up if I forget to change the FROM: address... I do appreciate your cataloging my posts however. Warmest regards, Nick N/P: Led Zeppelin, Texas Pop Festival 1969 Roxy Trade Page: http://boootlegs.com/roxy.htm Roxy Trade Page - Text Only: http://boootlegs.com/bootxt04.htm Other Trade Stuff: http://boootlegs.com/ ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 19:06:49 -0500 (EST) From: jason and jill Subject: [AVALON] Reply to and list rule shite... As the creator of the avalon list, lists rules, and configuration settings that Colleen is up-ending can I please request---gripers please cut it out!!!???? I didn't form any committees, take any polls, etc. when I set up ANYTHING on this list in the first place. I don't mind what Colleen's doing, and its my stuff she's mucking with! ;) More importantly, the things she's mucking with aren't things any list members had any involvement with in the first place. I don't know how many original members are still with the list, however when I started the list it was just a couple of email aliases plugged up to a jerry rigged script written for a program that no longer exists. The list at various times had to move from place to place when needed, sometimes paid for out of my pocket and then from the good graces of ecto.org and then smoe.org. Stuff evolved over time due to limitations of the software then-current, etc. (Such as the part of the list rules referring to checking headers. That's in there b/c for a while people were doing all kinds of crazy things with their headers that the GUI mail clients most people use now don't faciliate as readilly). (And for all of those in a bunch over the reply-to setting, right above is the reason for the setting in first place--that the list has been avalon@dfw.net, avalon@eskimo.net, avalon@ecto.org, avalon@smoe.org and avalon@ some ISP I can no longer remember. The reply was set to the list b/c people's addressbooks couldn't keep up with the list and that way they wouldn't have to. It wasn't there to foster community togetherness, for convenience, or to cure halitosis. It was there so someone wouldn't screw up and send messages to a old, deleted address.) There was never any discussion or debate about any contests of the list rules or any settings in the list configuration files to get them to the way they were before Colleen took over, so there is no previous consensus to uproot...it was what it was, and it will now be what it will now be. I don't know how many of you all are listowners that are offering the helpful suggestions, but lemme tell you...if you conduct consultations and polls every time you do something you really get nothing done and burn out very, very quickly. I'm sure that there are avalon members that wish I did conduct monthly polls, however if I had I would have burnt out on avalon ownership five years ago instead of two years ago. Moreover, the list is supposed to be for discussion of Roxy Music and Brian Ferry, not for extensive, extended discussion of the list header munging. :) So give Colleen a break. Yeah, she's a dictator. That's what listowners do, for chrissake. If this is the reaction to every change she makes we'll need a replacement for Colleen in a few months. And she's already considered more input from y'all then I ever did! :) (Is anybody really that attached to a list rule file that includes the phrase, "If you prove to be a dick I can delete you from the list."??????) Jason P.S. Since any avalon configuration questions now must be entered in the Congressional Record--one of the continual annoyances of listowning is dealing with those refugees from Darwin's waiting room who have to bug the list with their desires to unsub. The footer has been there for eight years now providing unsub information so that the information is always available. (Of course, it doesn't help the poor folks whose ISPs have unilaterally changed their email addresses, leaving the poor person subscribed under a different email address than they are now using.) I would strongly advise against removing the unsub information. The tag line above the info has changed over time, and I believe the current one has been there for almost two years, and was put in after someone who had been subbed for a long period of time posted to the list asking how to get off, was told look at the footer, and replied, "Oh, I had never noticed that." Hence the subliminable footer. And for the official record---yes, it does incorporate perhaps the mildest political reference in recorded history as the above clueless exchange occurred right around the time that was in the news. I most abjectly and humbly appologize for my offending any kind British soul with such an offensive American reference, and promise to make it up to the UK by, for the rest of my life, working to raise enough money to send a qualified dentist to England. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 20:02:57 -0500 (EST) From: Colleen Matan Subject: [AVALON] well, that was fun, wasn't it? Kind of like an endless root canal. And it's only Monday. Wheeeeeee. OK, this is the deal: - --the reply-to header stays as is - --the reply-to conversation is closed down as as on-list discussion - --there are more changes coming down the pike, so if you have a delicate nature, go and begin fortifying yourselves now. Or write me and join in on the effort. Believe it or not, the hope is to create a less divisive, and a more useful and interesting list. Even if it kills us all. Please write me in private if you wish to continue these conversations. Alternatively you may wish to consider writing your congressmen, burning me in effigy, or sticking pins in a voodoo doll. Thank you. Colleen ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 20:08:22 -0500 From: "tmoq" Subject: Re: [AVALON] "Reply-To:" function changed - ----- Original Message ----- From: "N. S. Koff" To: Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 1:49 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] "Reply-To:" function changed > Well, I think the reply-to change is a good one, but if there's so much > contention between the different sides, Miles' post made me wonder if there > isn't a way to NOT HAVE a reply-to -- thus forcing the poster to think even > more clearly about who he wants to post to (if at all) before s(he) hits > the send button... It seems to me that taking the extra couple of seconds to trim the "To" field makes everyone focus on who`s getting the message. Mistakes happen and errors in sending are usually done, then realized, within the same nano-second and once it`s sent, there`s nothing you can do about it but add to the clutter with a "sorry, that was meant of so & so" apology. Gene ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 20:26:21 -0500 From: "tmoq" Subject: Re: [AVALON] it's all very fuzzy - ----- Original Message ----- From: "mark shanahan" To: Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 4:27 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] it's all very fuzzy > > p.s. - anyone else having trouble getting the virgin germany audio link > to work? I can`t get it to work. My Real Player launches but I keep getting a message saying something to the effect of "this document is not a RealAudio document." or some such. I guess I need the newer version and although I`m dying to hear the clip, I`m not willing to download Real Player to hear it. Why the hell didn`t they just use an MP3? And not to stray too far off topic, does anyone know anything about another music format with an .ogg or .oog extension. I understand this is a new format the BBC has experimenting with. Some of these files have been turning up on some mp3 binary groups. Gene ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 17:23:15 -0800 From: "mark shanahan" Subject: [AVALON] 'musicians' on bravo (am. TV) FYI, bravo is going to re-run their hour w/lou reed monday the 18th. other guests include chris stein & debbie harry: http://www.bravotv.com/sections/shows_musician.php peaches/ms _______________________________________________________________ Get the FREE email that has everyone talking at http://www.mail2world.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2002 17:32:20 -0800 From: William Sommers Subject: Re: [AVALON] it's all very fuzzy At 08:26 PM 3/4/02 -0500, tmoq wrote: > And not to stray too far off topic, does anyone know anything about > another music format with an .ogg or .oog extension. For starters: http://www.ogg-vorbis.com http://www.xiph.org/ogg/vorbis/faq.html -wfs ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 21:04:31 -0500 From: "tmoq" Subject: [AVALON] Not *Another* Music Format?!! Thanks, William. I did visit www.ogg-vorbis.com some time back when .ogg files started appearing but only scanned it at the time. I really didn`t think it would come to anything as wild claims are a dime a dozen and, honestly, do we really need another music format? Cheers, Gene - ----- Original Message ----- From: "William Sommers" To: Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 8:32 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] it's all very fuzzy > At 08:26 PM 3/4/02 -0500, tmoq wrote: > > > And not to stray too far off topic, does anyone know anything about > > another music format with an .ogg or .oog extension. > > For starters: > > http://www.ogg-vorbis.com > http://www.xiph.org/ogg/vorbis/faq.html > > > -wfs > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2002 22:40:24 -0500 From: "Grant Goggans" Subject: re: [AVALON] Frantic (spoilers) >Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 16:44:10 EST >From: KWil632057@AOL.COM >Subject: [AVALON] re: Frantic (spoilers) > >Bloody hell. Someones a bit bitter, going by the lyrics on this one. Dare I >interpret Goddess of Love as being about Ms. Jerry Hall? I'm sure you can interpret it any way you want, but considering she broke up with Bryan something like a quarter of a century ago, and that Bry has been married for something like two decades, I would very much like to think that he has nothing more to say on the subject of Jerry (and indeed, since 1987, he hasn't, and then only to deny that "Kiss and Tell" was about her) and that the ongoing notion or assumption that Jerry Hall has any more impact or relevance in his life than any other old girlfriend is massively false, ill-informed and offensive to Bryan and to his family, considering how disrespectful it would be to his wife of twenty years to go around writing songs about an 18-month flame when Jimmy Carter was president. Good grief, that was a long sentence. - --Grant _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 22:10:07 -0600 From: "Will Frechette" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Admin note: "Reply-To:" function changed Chris is right, this is silly. Will - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org]On Behalf Of Chris Turner Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2002 7:21 AM To: Avalon Subject: Re: [AVALON] Admin note: "Reply-To:" function changed I'm sure I can't be the only person who thinks that this 'reply-to' amendment is an irritating and unecessary change. Surely most people will want to respond to messages on list, and not individually to the sender? Indeed, that's the nature of an online discussion group, no? I'm reasonably computer savvy, yet I've already twice sent messages to individuals that were intended for the group. If I'm in a minority, then OK, but I would appreciate the general response to this enforced change, which to my knowledge has never been requested online by a single member in the six-year history of Avalon. Chris - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colleen Matan" To: Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2002 4:29 PM Subject: [AVALON] Admin note: "Reply-To:" function changed > Folks, I've just reset the reply default to reply to the author of a > message instead of the list. Please check your out-going message > headers if you are sending a post to the list as you may have to add it > back in. > > Thanks, > Colleen ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 22:18:31 -0600 From: "paula brown" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Frantic (spoilers) >From: KWil632057@AOL.COM > >Bloody hell. Someones a bit bitter, going by the lyrics on this one. Dare I >interpret Goddess of Love as being about Ms. Jerry Hall? >From: Grant Goggins I'm sure you can interpret it any way you want, but considering she broke up with Bryan something like a quarter of a century ago, and that Bry has been married for something like two decades, I would very much like to think that he has nothing more to say on the subject of Jerry (and indeed, since 1987, he hasn't, and then only to deny that "Kiss and Tell" was about her) and that the ongoing notion or assumption that Jerry Hall has any more impact or relevance in his life than any other old girlfriend is massively false, ill-informed and offensive to Bryan and to his family, considering how disrespectful it would be to his wife of twenty years to go around writing songs about an 18-month flame when Jimmy Carter was president. Good grief, that was a long sentence. - --Grant Isn't it pretty to think so? Dunno, but I still write about my old flames from 20 and 25 years ago, and they still have quite a lot of impact on my life today, both real and imagined. Offensive to the Bryan and the family? No doubt. Let's see, I believe Ms. Hall is doing theatre in Bryan's general neighborhood about now? At the very least he must be reminded of the line "Of all the gin joints in all the towns in all the world, you had to walk into mine." My own thoughts on the subject: Time goes by so fast Moments blaze then blow away like bones in a blast furnace, scattered ashes of my past I hold them to my lips and blow them to the wind and know that time will blow them back into my face again Until then, I remain........ Guilty but not remorseful, Paula ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 22:21:17 -0600 From: "Will Frechette" Subject: RE: [AVALON] Admin note: "Reply-To:" function changed Maybe those things that clip our mittens to our jackets are also needed?!? The amount of times I replied to an individual as opposed to the list could be counted on one hand, so why would we want to have to reconfigure for the multitude of list replies. Silly!!! Will - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org]On Behalf Of Colleen Matan Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2002 11:29 AM To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: Re: [AVALON] Admin note: "Reply-To:" function changed On Sun, 3 Mar 2002, Chris Turner wrote: > individuals that were intended for the group. If I'm in a minority, then > OK, but I would appreciate the general response to this enforced change, > which to my knowledge has never been requested online by a single member > in the six-year history of Avalon. Chris, thank you for your thoughts. First, it may well be true that such a change may not have been requested on-list in the six years you have been on Avalon (or indeed even in the eight years I have been here). However, I can also tell you that since an active list admin has been identified, I have been getting a lot of suggestions via private email. This conversation, obviously, would not be visible on-list. With respect to the reasons for this change: - --it's the preferred setting by list admins with far more experience than I who have the option to munge the "reply-to" option - --it doesn't actually limit your options as most mailers have a "reply to all" option (even my relic mailer, Pine, does that) which still allows for the automatic fill-in of the list address - --it cuts down on the number of personal replies inadvertently sent to the list, such as replies to CD tree offers or replies meant for someone else entirely. - --it hopefully eliminates the situation where very private emails are sent to the list and result in hurt feelings and/or embarrassment - --it makes the sender make a conscious effort to send mail to the list Yes, it's an extra step for us, and it may well be irritating. I do think it's for the best in the long run, but I welcome more discussion on this, either on- or off-list. Thanks to everyone who has offered their thoughts--I appreciate it very much. Colleen p.s. For what it's worth, every other mailing list I'm on uses this setup and the traffic on those lists remains at a robust level. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2002 04:25:21 +0000 From: Seely31@attbi.com Subject: Re: [AVALON] concord 2001 Overall, it's probably not a bad idea, as Mark suggested, to "require" people to offer these shows on list, but if that's the case, that ought to happen with every show that traverses through this list. There are at least half a dozen shows that never seem to make it much past the circle of friends who exchange them off list. Pete S. > _______________________________________________________________ > Get the FREE email that has everyone talking at > http://www.mail2world.com > > <-----Original Message-----> > >From: N. S. Koff > > >[cut]This offer is being made only to people who are willing to burn > and offer an additional 6 > >copies each to others. Whether the next 36 continue to spread the > wealth is out of my hands, morally > >speaking. That is, I believe, how a tree should work. If I have erred > again, please let me know asap, but > >please be nice, okay? > > pardon the delay in responding to this particular message. er - frankly, > if i did, i don't believe i made this mention. and that simply is: that > if we truly are going to 'share the wealth', wouldn't a stipulation to > these 6 people (or at least one or two thereof) be to offer the same > ON-LIST? or am i way off base here? i only say this because, if it's > shared only amongst friends from the list, etc. - then, it's not really > what i'd call sharing. [not advocating more OT traffic on-list, btw.] > > i'm surprised there wasn't more talk on this issue as well. any others > have any opinion on this issue? > > peaces/ms > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 16:46:52 +1100 From: "S Clarke" Subject: Re: [AVALON] "Reply-To:" function changed. > Basically I'm for keeping decisions about the list being made on the list. > > Best wishes, > Tom. I agree with this statement. I don't care for dictatorship, no matter how benign. Shelley ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 01:32:51 -0500 (EST) From: jason and jill Subject: RE: [AVALON] Admin note: "Reply-To:" function changed > change, which to my > knowledge has never been requested online by a single member in the six-year > history of Avalon. But reply to the list was never requested by a single member in the *eight* year history of the list, either. I just made you take it whether you wanted it or not. (Btw, reply-to hasn't been changed--it has been eliminated. The default for majordomo is to not include a reply-to line, but simply to distribute messages as you sent them in. I set majordomo to alter the messages by inserting a header line, forcing replies back to the list. All the change did was set majorodmo back to its default, eliminating a setting that, again, no one but me had ever asked for to begin with. By the by, people had in fact requested the reply-to-list header be eliminated, and I refused because I think replies should be directed to the list and if they screw up, that's their problem. So I wasn't surprised to see Colleen switch it b/c I figured that would be one of the first things someone would be asking for. So in a way, Colleen is being criticized for being responsive and listening to subscriber requests. Heh, I love not owning this list. :) Jason ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 07:59:23 +0100 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: [AVALON] Salute to Jason (was something else) At 01.06 +0100 2-03-05, jason and jill wrote: >As the creator of the avalon list, lists rules, and configuration >settings that Colleen is up-ending can I please request---gripers please >cut it out!!!???? I have been here for four years and I did not even know that Jason was the creator in charge. I thought it was someone else. A belated salute to you Jason. NP Notorious BIG etc, Bad Boy Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 18:34:50 +1100 From: "notdixon" Subject: [AVALON] and now for something completely different...Trial Weed offer! Well, no one said not to........ Hi folks! Big thanks go to Grant, Hans, Judy and David for their comments on weeding. Their points are quite valid, and keeping them in mind, I've decided to give it a go. If it works, then lots of people will get great music. If it fails, I'll look a bit silly, and, heck, I'm 36, I'm getting used to that! This is a trial weed offer just to see if a discussion group such as this one has room for another music distribution method. Weeding works as follows. Basically, I'm offering up copies of a Roxy boot to 6 people. These six people send nothing back to me (although a thank you would be nice...) but instead each offer another 3 copies back to the group. Offers are made just by posting an email to the group saying "Hey, I've got this, who wants it? etc etc". The 18 people who receive these copies then offer them back to the group, and so on until everyone who wants one has one. It is requested that burnerless folk wait until the weeds are quite common before they apply for a copy, as the weed has to spread widely if this is to work. You will eventually get one! Obviously people spreading the weeds should burn DAO without any gaps between the tracks, and should try to ensure that the copies that they are sending out are as good as the one that they were sent. It's important to keep the quality up, folks! Anyway, on to the boot. I've picked "A Wilder Weekend" as a good one to start with, as I would imagine a lot of the hardcore collectors have it already ( so I'm not interfering with their trading ) and it's a great-sounding concert that should please the casual fan. Here's the details: Roxy Music - A Wilder Weekend Live at the Calderone Theater, Hempstead, New York - 8th March 1976 Tracks - Sentimental Fool / The Thrill Of It All / Love Is The Drug / Mother Of Pearl / Bittersweet / Out Of The Blue / Whirlwind / Sea Breezes / Both Ends Burning / For Your Pleasure / Diamond Head / Wild Weekend This comes from a recent rebroadcast of a 70s radio recording, so the sound quality is quite good. It's worth it for the For Your Pleasure/Diamond Head medley! Artwork can be found at Heather's wonderful site on the A-list page. Link is here: http://www.thewebgal.com/hjames/rmbf-70.html - art is about half-way down the page. And now the offer: I will send out 6 copies of this to the first folks to email me OFF_LIST at notdixon@ihug.com.au (This is off-list to keep the on-list clutter to a minimum - this is a discussion group, after all.) Your replies may well go off-list anyway - I hear vague rumours that this has been changed recently - can anyone confirm this? :-) I'll take 2 people from the US, 2 folks from Europe, and 2 folks from somewhere else. This will spread the weeds out a bit, and leave it open for folks in different time zones. Apologies to digesters. You will get it eventually, so just wait a bit longer. After I've got my winners, I will post a Weed Closed email to the group, saying something along the lines of "Weed offer closed : Winners are Rick W, John W, Gary T, Graham S. etc etc" Okay, email me now! PLEASE continue the weed, otherwise this whole idea will crash and burn. Oh, and please include your mailing address. I'll notify the winners, so if you don't hear from me, then I'm afraid you'll have to wait for the next round. Sorry! Thanks - Doug Ready, Steady, GO! NP - Pink Floyd - Final Cut Demos (bloody amazing!!!!!) ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2002 08:31:55 +0000 From: "Tracy Connell" Subject: Re: [AVALON] "Reply-To:" function changed. I agree with Philip. Most of the mails I send with relation to Avalon are to the list as a whole and it's a bit of a hassle having to change the 'To' address to avalon every time. Must be a nightmare for people who post a lot more than me to the list. Just my 2c, Tracy >From: "Philip Adams" >To: >Subject: [AVALON] AVALON] "Reply-To:" function changed. >Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 23:09:21 -0000 > >I thought the point of a list is to have a public forum. We read the list, >our responses are, mostly, addressed to the list - the default reply ought >to be the list. Logic, captain. _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2002 08:49:28 -0000 From: "Rob Whiteford" Subject: Re: [AVALON] FRANTIC Some things never change...............The audio clips sound vibrant and even commercial. So Virgin don't release a single until after the album. I can't be the only one who thinks a bit hit single from Ferry would be the best strategy for Virgin and his record sales. Still it's a relief to see the album is coming out and ANOTHER tour to look forward to. I was concerned the cool ruler would pack it in after the Roxy tour. Hope to see some of you at the UK shows. Cheers Rob ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Mar 2002 08:57:43 +0000 From: "Tracy Connell" Subject: Re: [AVALON] well, that was fun, wasn't it? I'm not wanting to make a fuss or make any enemies, but I don't think we should be told what we can discuss either. Tracy >--the reply-to conversation is closed down as as on-list discussion _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V7 #84 *************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest