From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V7 #81 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Monday, March 4 2002 Volume 07 : Number 081 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [AVALON] Roxy glam mags ["N. S. Koff" ] Re: [AVALON] "Reply-To:" function changed ["notdixon" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Roxy glam mags At 05:41 PM 3/3/02, you wrote: > I just sorted out my old music mags from the seventies, and with Roxy >articles in them (that are mentioned on the cover), I have 7 Hit Paraders, 6 >Creems, and 4 Circus. One of them had a two-page spread of photos of Ferry >and "Gerry," which was quite amusing: Ferry and "Gerry" in their tennis >outfits, Ferry and "Gerry" in their riding pants, etc. One had a long fold >out poster too big to scan of early Roxy by some car. My favorite, I guess, >was the one of the mustachiod Ferry sitting at his white and gold piano. I >also have the House&Garden from the eighties which has his beautiful estate >gardens and grounds highlighted. I'll have to find time to re-read all those >articles now, I suppose. I'm fairly neet for a packrat -- really! I prefer >to call it "archiving," of course! > >Best wishes, >Paula > >P.S. Well, it's early, I know, but ever since the rules changed, I've gotten >pretty much zero list mail. It's very lonely, especially with all the other >boards down. Sounds like great fun. If you were like me you'd already be scanning them and putting them up on the webpage, even if the webhost seems to have gone to sleep after disabling the site and the email for it... As someone pointed out, it's not as if new posts to the list didn't require typing avalone@smoe.org into the To: line! Warmest regards, etc. etc. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 12:58:43 +1100 From: "notdixon" Subject: Re: [AVALON] "Reply-To:" function changed Would the reason that Colleen is getting a lot of private emails about this topic be that the people responding to her think that they are replying to the list? Just wondering......... - Doug ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 13:23:34 +1100 From: "Gunther Wandtke" Subject: Re: [AVALON] "Reply-To:" function changed How about calling a list poll with a clear deadline in regard to this matter and a simple majority decides the way it is going to be ? I also found the way this was introduced a bit autocratic. Gunter - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gunther Wandtke" To: Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 12:33 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] "Reply-To:" function changed > I don't like this change at all. > It is rare enough that I send off-list messages and I've learned from the > few mistakes I made in the past. > Having this as the default setting makes no sense to me and requires an > unnecessary effort every time I want to reply to a message. > > Gunter > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: > Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 11:56 AM > Subject: Re: [AVALON] "Reply-To:" function changed > > > > Shum mishtake surely ed > > > > CJEM said "my private email is running overwhelming in favor of the > change. > > At this point the split is 50/50 " > > > > ...now that sounds like a cracking '" Colemanball"..anyone for Private Eye > > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > > The subliminable footer says: > > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > > unsubscribe avalon > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 02:14:39 EST From: OBrienFerry@AOL.COM Subject: Re: [AVALON] New Ferry Single March 18th In a message dated 04/03/02 00:16:38 GMT Standard Time, wilmar77@bellsouth.net writes: > Is there a UK based web site that is taking pre-orders for the 3 track > single that is supposed to be released on March 18th? > > I think we may find that It's All Over Now Baby Blue is to be a mainland Europe single and UK will have a different song as a single with the same extra tracks on the CD single but released at a later date. I hope to confirm that soon with a catalogue number so that advance ordering will be easier. Regards John O'Brien ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 07:49:58 +0000 From: Bahi Subject: Re: [AVALON] Admin note: "Reply-To:" function changed If this procedure remains in place long enough for it to become normal practice for us, it will leave us with a better list. For that reason, let's live with it for a few weeks and see how well we can adapt, as a group, to the small, simple change that it requires. "If it ain't broke, don't fix it", someone reminded us. It was not so long ago that a subscriber sent to us all a personal note critical of some of us - it's a regular occurrence to read less obvious examples. That phase, at least, should be over and that is a fix worth having. Whichever reply-to setting is adopted, mistakes will be made when switching between private and public replies. As things are now, that mistake no longer has to be made in front of 550 people: a definite improvement. If you have something to post that you think is of interest to the list, are you now going to abandon the idea, simply because you need to select the correct reply option? Anyone who has been trying unsuccessfully to reply to the list following this change could reply to the next message from the list admin, Colleen Matan, to let her know of his/her difficulty in posting. This will let the administrator know directly how many people are still struggling to post messages and thereby reducing list volume and usefulness. Or just reply to this message and I'll forward it. Here's one from the Argument by Analogy Department.... Drivers complained about the eventual introduction of self-cancelling indicators in the 1980s on Citroen cars. The complaints were predictable. To be cheeky and borrow a little structure from Chris's earlier post: "I'm reasonably car savvy but have twice had these indicators switch themselves off when I didn't want them to." Well, that stage - irritation, annoyance - passes. The benefits to all of us outweigh the initial difficulty. Pre-change driving skills didn't come into that issue, and lack of computer savvy is unlikely to be the problem with this one. It's just about adapting to change. This is not pointless change - it brings about an improvement. (I was very surprised to see it but I'm glad it's here - most of the other lists I'm on have long since adopted it, are all the better for it and continue to be very busy but less noisy.) ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 09:01:27 +0100 From: "Han Snijders" Subject: Re: [AVALON] "Reply-To:" function changed From what I've read now there's in my opinion not one really good reason to change the old reply system. And to that 50 % that reply straight to Colleen with their support for this strange decision: If you want to support Colleen really, do it on the list. Han ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 09:04:01 +0100 From: "Han Snijders" Subject: Re: [AVALON] New Ferry Single March 18th > I think we may find that It's All Over Now Baby Blue is to be a mainland > Europe single and UK will have a different song as a single with the same > extra tracks on the CD single but released at a later date. I hope to confirm > that soon with a catalogue number so that advance ordering will be easier. > > Regards > John O'Brien Any idea what's the strategy behind this? Han ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 04:01:51 EST From: Chandla911@AOL.COM Subject: [AVALON] Fwd: Reply to options I'm forwarding this to the list because having sent off a vote of support to Colleen, I saw the 'challenge' from Tom that suggests supporters would do so online. I tend to think I will write about Roxy to the list but make personal points to the person to whom they are critical. Wish more people felt the same. In case the technology does not repeat the forwarded text (for any reason), I get fed up with people firing off responses that should have been kept on a 1-to-1 basis and then having to read their follow-ups when they decide to apologise (in my opinion doubling up on their original sin). Yes, it's a discussion list, but there's no real problem in deciding who to reply to before pressing 'Send', is there? Unfortunately, my impression is that the people who tend to press send without thinking are the same ones who don't bother to cut out the vast majority of the mail that has no connection with the response they are sending. For digest users, this is one real pain. Best wishes Richard Mills n/p Angie Stone - Mahogany Soul (her show last night at Shepherd's Bush Empire was BRILLIANT) Return-path: From: Chandla911@aol.com Full-name: Chandla911 Message-ID: <3a.22ebb98b.29b48fe1@aol.com> Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 03:52:49 EST Subject: Reply to options To: cjem@his.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 7.0 for Windows UK sub 55 Colleen I come down on your side on this one - I get fed up with the mistakenly sent personal mails and then an extra mail apologising for the personal mail sent in error. Of course, if everyone was on digest like me, we might all take a little time when we read and reply, but then not everyone's perfect. ;-) Richard ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V7 #81 *************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest