From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V7 #80 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Sunday, March 3 2002 Volume 07 : Number 080 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [AVALON] Thank you (was One of the Grays) [Daniel Atterbom ] [AVALON] Denmark date is may 25th. ["S. Thomsen" ] Re: [AVALON] Admin note: "Reply-To:" function changed [Colleen Matan ] Re: [AVALON] Admin note: "Reply-To:" function changed [Daniel Atterbom <] Re: [AVALON] Speddings Womble history [EJDalseme@AOL.COM] [AVALON] Bounce prevention [jason and jill ] [AVALON] Question ["Bill " ] Re: [AVALON] Question ["paula brown" ] [AVALON] "Reply-To:" function changed. ["thom.wallace" ] Re: [AVALON] Question ["M" ] [AVALON] "Reply-To:" function changed ["Bill " ] [AVALON] CRUEL clip ["Bill " ] [AVALON] New Ferry Single March 18th ["Bill " ] RE: [AVALON] AVALON] "Reply-To:" function changed. ["Heather James" ] Re: [AVALON] "Reply-To:" function changed ["Gunther Wandtke" ] To leave the list, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon-digest ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 11:07:45 +0100 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: [AVALON] Thank you (was One of the Grays) At 00.40 +0100 2-03-03, Colleen Matan wrote: >Yes, Daniel's post was off-topic. BUT, and please listen carefully as >this may not be apparent to our new members (and welcome!), Daniel has >been a valuable member of this mailing list for many years. His >signal:noise ratio is excellent. He's provided us with much interesting >conversation and useful information over those years. In addition, many >of us consider him a friend, and vice versa. And of course, in that >context, Daniel's sharing his sad news with us was indeed understandable, >and of course folks wanted to share their sympathy with him. Some folks >did it off-list, and some folks did it on-list. Thank you for your kind words Colleen, and I would like to thank all of you that have written me off-list as well as on-list regarding our recent loss in the family. I have not responded to all of them, but I will. I am on a deadline for the magazine I edit (to stay on topic I am hoping to get a telephone conversation with Bryan Ferry, but it is unlikely as we go to press on Thursday). I have recieved much more sympathy and friendship on this list of people that I mostly only have met on the net, then on the other list where my wife and I shared the sad news, a Swedish list where I have met scores of them (and some of them even met the late dog). Death is somewhat a taboo in Swedish society. Your support has helped me a great deal to cope with that fact that our sick dog now has joined the great dog in the sky, to paraphrase Monthy Python. Thank you. With this the off-topic matter is closed. Welcome all new members! The sum of a list is all the people contributing. NP Family, Strange band ("Dog and his master took out together...") Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 21:35:18 +1100 From: "Dixon's Blackburn" Subject: [AVALON] Just curious.... Hello there! I was just wondering........ has "A Wilder Weekend" ever been distributed here much in the past, as a tree or otherwise? It's the rebroadcast version of "Wild Weekend" featuring Roxy's classic performance from New York, 8th March 1976. Thanks - Doug (plotting....) ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 12:02:43 -0000 From: "Chris Turner" Subject: [AVALON] Ferry to Denmark Roxyrama contributor Lars Raftesgaard informs me that Danish newspaper 'BT' is reporting that Bryan Ferry will be playing the Jelling Festival in Denmark on Saturday the 25th of March 2002. There's no confirmation on their website as yet, although they do indicate that we can expect a 'top international name' to be confirmed shortly. Chris ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 13:29:33 +0100 From: "S. Thomsen" Subject: [AVALON] Denmark date is may 25th. The official website www.jellingmusikfestival.dk. The correct date is saturday may the 25th. 1 day entrance is approx. 20#. Tickets here: http://jellingmusikfestival.synkron3-3.dir.dk/sw150.asp Enjoy. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 13:21:04 -0000 From: "Chris Turner" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Admin note: "Reply-To:" function changed I'm sure I can't be the only person who thinks that this 'reply-to' amendment is an irritating and unecessary change. Surely most people will want to respond to messages on list, and not individually to the sender? Indeed, that's the nature of an online discussion group, no? I'm reasonably computer savvy, yet I've already twice sent messages to individuals that were intended for the group. If I'm in a minority, then OK, but I would appreciate the general response to this enforced change, which to my knowledge has never been requested online by a single member in the six-year history of Avalon. Chris - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colleen Matan" To: Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2002 4:29 PM Subject: [AVALON] Admin note: "Reply-To:" function changed > Folks, I've just reset the reply default to reply to the author of a > message instead of the list. Please check your out-going message > headers if you are sending a post to the list as you may have to add it > back in. > > Thanks, > Colleen ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 08:29:30 EST From: Mikejhallett@AOL.COM Subject: [AVALON] Sun Tribute Before it dissapears into oblivion - does anyone know where the Sun Tribute album - Good Rockin Tonight is being stocked in the UK, if anywhere! None of the record stores I've tried have even heard of it? Mike ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 13:47:29 -0000 From: "Philip Adams" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Admin note: "Reply-To:" function changed I'm with Chris on this one, Colleen. Why the change? Philip > > Folks, I've just reset the reply default to reply to the author of a > > message instead of the list. Please check your out-going message > > headers if you are sending a post to the list as you may have to add it > > back in. > > > > Thanks, > > Colleen > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 13:36:55 -0000 From: "thom.wallace" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Admin note: "Reply-To:" function changed - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Turner" To: "Avalon" Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2002 1:21 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Admin note: "Reply-To:" function changed > I'm sure I can't be the only person who thinks that this 'reply-to' > amendment is an irritating and unecessary change. Surely most people will > want to respond to messages on list, and not individually to the sender? > Indeed, that's the nature of an online discussion group, no? I stand with Chris on this one. If it ain't broke don't fix it. You can also contact me at: TomWallace@vivaroxymusic.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 15:47:14 -0000 From: "David Squires " Subject: Re: [AVALON] Admin note: "Reply-To:" function changed On 3 Mar 2002 at 13:21, Chris Turner wrote: > I'm sure I can't be the only person who thinks that this 'reply-to' > amendment is an irritating and unecessary change. Me too, I'm afraid. They did this on another list I'm on with the result that I don't often post there any more. Please could it be changed back? David - -- David Squires, Wimbotsham, Norfolk, UK ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 10:12:41 -0600 From: "Bill " Subject: RE: [AVALON] Admin note: "Reply-To:" function changed Sorry but I cannot agree that this is a hardship.. I am surprised at the level of complaining. As mentioned, other lists have the same condition. All that is necessary is to do a simple "Reply All" and send as is or with one or 2 clicks remove the other address. I hope we are not losing sight of the generosity and effort of those that maintain the list for all of us to enjoy. If this makes the administration of the list easier then I do not mind another 2 or 3 seconds to insure proper addressing of the email. BILL - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org] On Behalf Of David Squires Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2002 9:47 AM To: Avalon Subject: Re: [AVALON] Admin note: "Reply-To:" function changed On 3 Mar 2002 at 13:21, Chris Turner wrote: > I'm sure I can't be the only person who thinks that this 'reply-to' > amendment is an irritating and unecessary change. Me too, I'm afraid. They did this on another list I'm on with the result that I don't often post there any more. Please could it be changed back? David - -- David Squires, Wimbotsham, Norfolk, UK ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 03 Mar 2002 16:29:07 +0000 From: "Duncan Watkins" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Admin note: "Reply-To:" function changed "Chris Turner" wrote: > >I'm sure I can't be the only person who thinks that this 'reply-to' >amendment is an irritating and unecessary change. Surely most people will >want to respond to messages on list, and not individually to the sender? Absolutely right Chris, just replying to your posting and having to think about/change the 'To' function is indeed irritating and quite frankly a stupid change of protocol! Surely this is a 'on list' discussion group as well as being 'on line'.It begs the question WHY? Regards, Duncan. (If this appears back on the list) ___________________________________________________________________________ >The subliminable footer says: >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 09:15:46 -0800 From: "PeteK" Subject: [AVALON] Frantic or Alphaville I've recently downloaded Hirosima,San Simeon, Nobody Loves Me, One Way Love and Alphaville. Unless somebody erroneously titled Alphaville it is Fool for Love. Likewise San Simeon is 5:55, much longer than the track length for Frantic's version, leaving me to believe it is from the Alphaville album. All came from Audiogalaxy. If Frantic's versions are even close to these, everyone on this list will be blown away on Apr 15. This is some of Bryan's best work in along time. San Simeon is already a classic in my mind. Bryan's singing is superb on One way Love. I still haven't heard Goddess of Love and I Thought. I would imagine they will probably be gems too. Running out of time. NP Stan Ridgway's The Big Heat ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 12:28:46 -0500 (EST) From: Colleen Matan Subject: Re: [AVALON] Admin note: "Reply-To:" function changed On Sun, 3 Mar 2002, Chris Turner wrote: > individuals that were intended for the group. If I'm in a minority, then > OK, but I would appreciate the general response to this enforced change, > which to my knowledge has never been requested online by a single member > in the six-year history of Avalon. Chris, thank you for your thoughts. First, it may well be true that such a change may not have been requested on-list in the six years you have been on Avalon (or indeed even in the eight years I have been here). However, I can also tell you that since an active list admin has been identified, I have been getting a lot of suggestions via private email. This conversation, obviously, would not be visible on-list. With respect to the reasons for this change: - --it's the preferred setting by list admins with far more experience than I who have the option to munge the "reply-to" option - --it doesn't actually limit your options as most mailers have a "reply to all" option (even my relic mailer, Pine, does that) which still allows for the automatic fill-in of the list address - --it cuts down on the number of personal replies inadvertently sent to the list, such as replies to CD tree offers or replies meant for someone else entirely. - --it hopefully eliminates the situation where very private emails are sent to the list and result in hurt feelings and/or embarrassment - --it makes the sender make a conscious effort to send mail to the list Yes, it's an extra step for us, and it may well be irritating. I do think it's for the best in the long run, but I welcome more discussion on this, either on- or off-list. Thanks to everyone who has offered their thoughts--I appreciate it very much. Colleen p.s. For what it's worth, every other mailing list I'm on uses this setup and the traffic on those lists remains at a robust level. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 12:48:40 -0500 (EST) From: Colleen Matan Subject: [AVALON] SOTW: "Do The Strand" The song of the what/whenever is "Do The Strand" from _For Your Pleasure_. As before the discussion is open to anything related to the song, and these are only suggestions: love it? hate it? lyrics/music it changed my life live vs. studio version(s) (if applicable) the video (if any) that reminds me... Do The Strand (Ferry) There's a new sensation A fabulous creation A danceable solution to teenage revolution Do The Strand love When you feel love It's the new way And that's why we say Do The Strand Do it on the tables Quaglino's place or Mabel's Slow and gentle Sentimental All styles served here Louis Seize he prefer Laissez Faire Strand Tired of the tango Fed up with fandango Dance on moonbeams Slide on rainbows In furs or blue jeans You know what I mean Do The Strand Had your fill of quadrilles The Madison and cheap thrills Bored with the beguine The samba isn't your scene They're playing our tune by the pale moon We're incognito down the Lido And we like The Strand Arabs at oases Eskimos and Chinese If you feel blue Look through Who's Who See La Goulue and Nijinsky Do The Strandsky Weary of the waltz and mashed potato schmaltz Rhododendron is a nice flower Evergreen it lasts forever But it can't beat Strand power The Sphynx and Mona Lisa Lolita and Guernica Did The Strand ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 20:00:12 +0100 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: Re: [AVALON] Admin note: "Reply-To:" function changed Well since I am a big fan of Colleen, I adopt to the change. I have used made a shortcut in Eudora, typing roxy and presto, the avalon@smoe.org address appears. Now I will watch a satircal news show. NP Scott Walker Plastic Palace People Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 15:20:37 EST From: EJDalseme@AOL.COM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Speddings Womble history And if anyone wants a pattern to make the cuddly creatures about 30 cms (12 inches) I still have patterns for them all. (Sad or what!) Ems ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 16:17:42 -0500 (EST) From: jason and jill Subject: [AVALON] Bounce prevention On the subject of bounces, there is one other word that is a basic majordomo command and needs to be avoided in the first five lines of posts, and it unfortunatenly is one that people don't think of as a command. That word is spelled H-E-L-P. :) Jason ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 15:21:26 -0600 From: "Bill " Subject: [AVALON] Question How is it that Napster was, and I think still is, a target yet there seem to be other internet sites that have taken Napster's place with seemingly no opposition? I've not participated much at all in the downloading from places like Napster and such. I have on a few occasions sought out recordings that are otherwise unobtainable in any other way but I am one that simply must have the official product if it is in any way obtainable. Just curious if anyone can fill me in on this... Thanks Bill - -----Original Message----- From: PeteK Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2002 11:16 AM I've recently downloaded Hirosima,San Simeon, Nobody Loves Me, One Way Love and Alphaville. Unless somebody erroneously titled Alphaville it is Fool for Love. Likewise San Simeon is 5:55, much longer than the track length for Frantic's version, leaving me to believe it is from the Alphaville album. All came from Audiogalaxy. If Frantic's versions are even close to these, everyone on this list will be blown away on Apr 15. This is some of Bryan's best work in along time. San Simeon is already a classic in my mind. Bryan's singing is superb on One way Love. I still haven't heard Goddess of Love and I Thought. I would imagine they will probably be gems too. Running out of time. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 16:07:56 -0600 From: "paula brown" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Question My guess is it's simply that there aren't enough employees to police the web, so they pick the biggest and use them as an example. Re: Gov't vs Microsoft. Paula - ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2002 3:25 PM To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: [AVALON] Question How is it that Napster was, and I think still is, a target yet there seem to be other internet sites that have taken Napster's place with seemingly no opposition? I've not participated much at all in the downloading from places like Napster and such. I have on a few occasions sought out recordings that are otherwise unobtainable in any other way but I am one that simply must have the official product if it is in any way obtainable. Just curious if anyone can fill me in on this... Thanks Bill - -----Original Message----- From: PeteK Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2002 11:16 AM I've recently downloaded Hirosima,San Simeon, Nobody Loves Me, One Way Love and Alphaville. Unless somebody erroneously titled Alphaville it is Fool for Love. Likewise San Simeon is 5:55, much longer than the track length for Frantic's version, leaving me to believe it is from the Alphaville album. All came from Audiogalaxy. If Frantic's versions are even close to these, everyone on this list will be blown away on Apr 15. This is some of Bryan's best work in along time. San Simeon is already a classic in my mind. Bryan's singing is superb on One way Love. I still haven't heard Goddess of Love and I Thought. I would imagine they will probably be gems too. Running out of time. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 22:55:51 -0000 From: "thom.wallace" Subject: [AVALON] "Reply-To:" function changed. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Colleen Matan" To: Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2002 5:28 PM Subject: Re: [AVALON] Admin note: "Reply-To:" function changed > First, it may well be true that such a change may not have been requested > on-list in the six years you have been on Avalon (or indeed even in the > eight years I have been here). However, I can also tell you that since an > active list admin has been identified, I have been getting a lot of > suggestions via private email. I'm not having a dig, but I would have thought if it was going to be such popular change that at least one person would have posted about it on-line. > With respect to the reasons for this change: > > --it hopefully eliminates the situation where very private emails are sent > to the list and result in hurt feelings and/or embarrassment As someone who has actually done this, it may have been a bit embarrasing, but you get over it. > > Yes, it's an extra step for us, and it may well be irritating. I do think > it's for the best in the long run, but I welcome more discussion on this, > either on- or off-list. Does this mean that we will be reverting to the original set up if enough list members voice their preference for it? Sure it will mean that a conscious decision to address postings to this list will have to be made, but on the down side where things were accidentally posted to the list now they may be accidentally not sent thus cutting back on the content of any on going discussion. It could in turn reduce list mambers from receiving information that they would have found of iterest, especially with a tour coming in the near future. Best wishes, Tom. You can also contact me at: TomWallace@vivaroxymusic.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 23:09:21 -0000 From: "Philip Adams" Subject: [AVALON] AVALON] "Reply-To:" function changed. I thought the point of a list is to have a public forum. We read the list, our responses are, mostly, addressed to the list - the default reply ought to be the list. Logic, captain. Philip > > > First, it may well be true that such a change may not have been requested > > on-list in the six years you have been on Avalon (or indeed even in the > > eight years I have been here). However, I can also tell you that since an > > active list admin has been identified, I have been getting a lot of > > suggestions via private email. > > I'm not having a dig, but I would have thought if it was going to be such > popular change that at least one person would have posted about it on-line. > > > With respect to the reasons for this change: > > > > --it hopefully eliminates the situation where very private emails are sent > > to the list and result in hurt feelings and/or embarrassment > > As someone who has actually done this, it may have been a bit embarrasing, > but you get over it. > > > > Yes, it's an extra step for us, and it may well be irritating. I do > think > > it's for the best in the long run, but I welcome more discussion on this, > > either on- or off-list. > > Does this mean that we will be reverting to the original set up if enough > list members voice their preference for it? Sure it will mean that a > conscious decision to address postings to this list will have to be made, > but on the down side where things were accidentally posted to the list now > they may be accidentally not sent thus cutting back on the content of any on > going discussion. It could in turn reduce list mambers from receiving > information that they would have found of iterest, especially with a tour > coming in the near future. > > Best wishes, > Tom. > > You can also contact me at: TomWallace@vivaroxymusic.com > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 18:23:34 -0500 (EST) From: Colleen Matan Subject: Re: [AVALON] "Reply-To:" function changed On Sun, 3 Mar 2002, thom.wallace wrote: > > First, it may well be true that such a change may not have been > > requested on-list in the six years you have been on Avalon (or indeed > > even in the eight years I have been here). However, I can also tell > > you that since an active list admin has been identified, I have been > > getting a lot of suggestions via private email. > > I'm not having a dig, but I would have thought if it was going to be such > popular change that at least one person would have posted about it on-line. Not necessarily. On the other lists I'm on these admin conversations are generally carried on off-list. > > Yes, it's an extra step for us, and it may well be irritating. I do > > think it's for the best in the long run, but I welcome more discussion > > on this, either on- or off-list. > > Does this mean that we will be reverting to the original set up if > enough list members voice their preference for it? Sure it will mean > that a conscious decision to address postings to this list will have to > be made, but on the down side where things were accidentally posted to > the list now they may be accidentally not sent thus cutting back on the I'm afraid this isn't a popularity contest. If there are serious problems that list members encounter with the new setup, of course I'd be open to changing it back. Otherwise, since it's only been in place a little over 24 hours, I would hope people would give themselves a chance to get used to it before insisting it has to go. And, for what it's worth, my private email is running overwhelming in favor of the change. At this point the split is about 50/50. > content of any on going discussion. It could in turn reduce list mambers > from receiving information that they would have found of iterest, > especially with a tour coming in the near future. You see, I'm working on the assumption that list members are smart enough to send posts to the list, even with the change. If I am proven wrong about this, naturally I'd defer to that reality. In addition, if important tour information is posted mistakenly to one person (although one would suspect that information might normally be placed in an entirely new message, and not necessarily as a response to someone else, in which case it would go directly to the list since it'd have to be hand-addressed) that that person would forward it to the list. I'm sure that the excitement of getting that news out would ensure that it would get to the list one way or another. (If this is instead some sort of veiled threat, I would instead be working on the assumption that better natures would prevail.) Colleen ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 19:09:50 -0500 From: "M" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Question > album. All > came from Audiogalaxy. If Frantic's versions are even close to these, I finally managed to download the songs this weekend. Today, I decided to download some Duran Duran songs. I have no idea what possessed me to get live version of songs with Simon Saggy Butt Le Bon warbling away. But, I found a cover of "Virginia Plain." Not too bad. (It's better than the cover of "Rebel Rebel" I downloaded which Saggy Butt massacred.) It's a little over a minute long and they stop when they get to the line "we are flying down to RIO." Must have been a lead in to that song. Which reminds me - must do a search for the Psychedelic Furs cover of "VP"..... (Nothing at Audiogalaxy.) I have yet to use Morpheus but went there today. Read the statment about Morpheus users being attacked. =( M ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ A young New Yorker called M Was frequently seen with old men Described as fantastic She preferred lots of plastic Especially Barbie and Ken. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ NP - Souvlaki by Slowdive ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 17:51:20 -0600 From: "Bill " Subject: [AVALON] "Reply-To:" function changed At the risk of being redundant... the extra step is so inconsequential that I just can't see what the fuss is about. Things change. I am in favor of keeping the administrators' job easier and subsequently the list alive and well. If this change helps toward that end even a little bit, I'm all for it. I belong to well over a dozen other lists like Avalon (but as Ferry/Roxy are my favorites of all time THIS list is by default my favorite) and most of them are configured for "Reply" to be like this list now is. If this list is as important to most of the members as it is to me then I am sure this change will be quickly adjusted to. Sincerely, BILL ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 17:56:23 -0600 From: "Bill " Subject: [AVALON] CRUEL clip Sample from Virgin Germany http://217.110.31.2/VirginProduktion/frontend/jsfree/index_content_artis t.asp?sid=2344820346267239 &id=76 ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 18:16:26 -0600 From: "Bill " Subject: [AVALON] New Ferry Single March 18th Is there a UK based web site that is taking pre-orders for the 3 track single that is supposed to be released on March 18th? I'd like to get an order placed for this but the few UK shops I am familiar with are not listing it yet. Thanks BILL ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 19:34:53 -0500 From: "Heather James" Subject: RE: [AVALON] AVALON] "Reply-To:" function changed. Aye Cap'n - Its private replies and damn the public ... what do they know anyway, they're just Ferry fans anywho! We're going to have a PROFESSIONAL list if it kills all of you, so you better get used to it 'cause the unsprung majority have spoken (in private emails, of course ... they forgot to hit "reply to LIST") Grins and giggles to all, of course ... It WILL get easier as you get more practice stuffing your arm in there ... -= )-(eather =- >--------------------< hjames@thewebgal.com The Roxy Music Archives: http://www.thewebgal.com/roxymusic/ My Music Trading Lists: http://www.thewebgal.com/hjames/trades.html Roxy Music Trade List: http://www.thewebgal.com/hjames/a-list.html Van Morrison Trade List: http://www.thewebgal.com/hjames/van-list.html >-----------------------------------------------------------------------< - -----Original Message----- From: owner-avalon@smoe.org [mailto:owner-avalon@smoe.org]On Behalf Of Philip Adams Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2002 6:09 PM To: avalon@smoe.org Subject: [AVALON] AVALON] "Reply-To:" function changed. I thought the point of a list is to have a public forum. We read the list, our responses are, mostly, addressed to the list - the default reply ought to be the list. Logic, captain. Philip > > > First, it may well be true that such a change may not have been requested > > on-list in the six years you have been on Avalon (or indeed even in the > > eight years I have been here). However, I can also tell you that since an > > active list admin has been identified, I have been getting a lot of > > suggestions via private email. > > I'm not having a dig, but I would have thought if it was going to be such > popular change that at least one person would have posted about it on-line. > > > With respect to the reasons for this change: > > > > --it hopefully eliminates the situation where very private emails are sent > > to the list and result in hurt feelings and/or embarrassment > > As someone who has actually done this, it may have been a bit embarrasing, > but you get over it. > > > > Yes, it's an extra step for us, and it may well be irritating. I do > think > > it's for the best in the long run, but I welcome more discussion on this, > > either on- or off-list. > > Does this mean that we will be reverting to the original set up if enough > list members voice their preference for it? Sure it will mean that a > conscious decision to address postings to this list will have to be made, > but on the down side where things were accidentally posted to the list now > they may be accidentally not sent thus cutting back on the content of any on > going discussion. It could in turn reduce list mambers from receiving > information that they would have found of iterest, especially with a tour > coming in the near future. > > Best wishes, > Tom. > > You can also contact me at: TomWallace@vivaroxymusic.com > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 19:56:24 EST From: InterEireann@AOL.COM Subject: Re: [AVALON] "Reply-To:" function changed Shum mishtake surely ed CJEM said "my private email is running overwhelming in favor of the change. At this point the split is 50/50 " ...now that sounds like a cracking '" Colemanball"..anyone for Private Eye ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 19:41:39 -0600 From: "paula brown" Subject: [AVALON] Roxy glam mags I just sorted out my old music mags from the seventies, and with Roxy articles in them (that are mentioned on the cover), I have 7 Hit Paraders, 6 Creems, and 4 Circus. One of them had a two-page spread of photos of Ferry and "Gerry," which was quite amusing: Ferry and "Gerry" in their tennis outfits, Ferry and "Gerry" in their riding pants, etc. One had a long fold out poster too big to scan of early Roxy by some car. My favorite, I guess, was the one of the mustachiod Ferry sitting at his white and gold piano. I also have the House&Garden from the eighties which has his beautiful estate gardens and grounds highlighted. I'll have to find time to re-read all those articles now, I suppose. I'm fairly neet for a packrat -- really! I prefer to call it "archiving," of course! Best wishes, Paula P.S. Well, it's early, I know, but ever since the rules changed, I've gotten pretty much zero list mail. It's very lonely, especially with all the other boards down. ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 12:33:35 +1100 From: "Gunther Wandtke" Subject: Re: [AVALON] "Reply-To:" function changed I don't like this change at all. It is rare enough that I send off-list messages and I've learned from the few mistakes I made in the past. Having this as the default setting makes no sense to me and requires an unnecessary effort every time I want to reply to a message. Gunter - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 11:56 AM Subject: Re: [AVALON] "Reply-To:" function changed > Shum mishtake surely ed > > CJEM said "my private email is running overwhelming in favor of the change. > At this point the split is 50/50 " > > ...now that sounds like a cracking '" Colemanball"..anyone for Private Eye > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2002 12:35:20 +1100 From: "Gunther Wandtke" Subject: Fw: [AVALON] CRUEL clip Forwarding my first message i accidently sent off-list : - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gunther Wandtke" To: "Bill " Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 11:47 AM Subject: Re: [AVALON] CRUEL clip > Another great sounding clip, I'm relly expecting now my fav Ferry album > ever. > The Alphaville tracks as downloadable from Audiogalaxy sound good, but this > sounds much better. > I love these guitar riffs, seems like Bryan has rediscovered his wild edge? > > Gunter > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bill " > To: > Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 10:56 AM > Subject: [AVALON] CRUEL clip > > > > Sample from Virgin Germany > > > > > > > > http://217.110.31.2/VirginProduktion/frontend/jsfree/index_content_artis > > t.asp?sid=2344820346267239 > > > st.asp?sid=2344820346267239&id=76> &id=76 > > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > > The subliminable footer says: > > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V7 #80 *************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest