From: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org (avalon-digest) To: avalon-digest@smoe.org Subject: avalon-digest V7 #75 Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org Sender: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-avalon-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk avalon-digest Friday, March 1 2002 Volume 07 : Number 075 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [AVALON] Re: Eno ["Rod LeCloux" ] Re: [AVALON] Re: Eno [Colleen Matan ] [AVALON] Re: Two Pulp comments ["Grant Goggans" ] [AVALON] Re: death of a dog [JDLJ1808@aol.com] [AVALON] orson welles, 2001 tour & ferry's future (kinda long) ["mark sha] [AVALON] Re: Eno [MarlanaK@webtv.net (M.M.K.)] Re: [AVALON] orson welles, 2001 tour & ferry's future (kinda long) ["Keit] [AVALON] Concord 2001 ["N. S. Koff" ] Re: [AVALON] Concord 2001 ["N. S. Koff" ] Re: [AVALON] CHATTER MATTER [Aleks Kocan ] Re: [AVALON] Bowie won't be at the IoW Festival [Aleks Kocan ] To leave the list, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon-digest ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 17:04:48 -0600 From: "Rod LeCloux" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: Eno Wow, Eno the dome one was there? I guess I missed that!! I only saw Daniel Lanois join them in their acceptance speech. Rod >From: MarlanaK@webtv.net (M.M.K.) >Reply-To: avalon@smoe.org >To: Avalon@smoe.org >Subject: [AVALON] Re: Eno >Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 06:51:04 -0600 (CST) > >When U2 picked up their Grammy last night for best record of yr. None >other than Brian Eno was there with them. Alicia Keys , came away the >big winner with 5 Grammy's for her' Fallen' "Songs In A Minor" U2 walked >away with a hefty 4 Grammy's. Dylan picked up a Grammy for Love & >Theft. Glad to see" Enya" pick up a grammy for best New Age Album. >Marlana........................................................... > > >___________________________________________________________________________ >The subliminable footer says: >To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: >unsubscribe avalon > _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 18:34:00 -0500 (EST) From: Colleen Matan Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: Eno > >From: MarlanaK@webtv.net (M.M.K.) > >When U2 picked up their Grammy last night for best record of yr. None > >other than Brian Eno was there with them. Alicia Keys , came away the > >big winner with 5 Grammy's for her' Fallen' "Songs In A Minor" U2 walked > >away with a hefty 4 Grammy's. Dylan picked up a Grammy for Love & > >Theft. Glad to see" Enya" pick up a grammy for best New Age Album. > >Marlana........................................................... On Thu, 28 Feb 2002, Rod LeCloux wrote: > Wow, Eno the dome one was there? I guess I missed that!! I only saw > Daniel Lanois join them in their acceptance speech. I must have missed it too as I only saw Lanois too. Colleen ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 19:31:58 -0500 From: "Grant Goggans" Subject: [AVALON] Re: Two Pulp comments >Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 07:26:26 EST >From: KWil632057@AOL.COM >Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: Tonight Matthew im gonna have to >be...........................? > >As Bryan Ferry often covers old material what new (say in the last 15 >years) >songs would you like to hear covered by the old tart? > >Eg: I'd love to hear him 'do' > >Still Life - Suede >Common People - Pulp >I'll Stand By You - The Pretenders >Superstar - Palm Tree >High And Dry - Radiohead >911 Is a Joke - Pulic Enemy > >Ok, one of those is a bit silly, but High and Dry is still a good song. > >Over to you Very silly indeed, he said with a straight face. I can't imagine anyone less suited to singing "Common People" than Bryan Ferry. But seriously, since you mentioned Suede covers, I wouldn't mind hearing what Phil Manzanera could do with "My Dark Star." >Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 22:26:48 +0100 >From: "Han Snijders" >Subject: Re: [AVALON] Out of curiosity... > (replying to me who said) > > P.S. It was worth the import price to open the booklet of Pulp's We >Love > > Life and see that photo on the page opposite the lyrics to "Bad Cover > > Version." I laughed for five minutes. > >But what did you see? To spoil the joke would be criminal, Han. It's simply a photo which would be extremely amusing in any context -- placed as it is in the CD booklet, it's a work of genius. - --Grant _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 22:52:42 EST From: JDLJ1808@aol.com Subject: [AVALON] Re: death of a dog Daniel, My sympathies to you and those who loved your dog. Diane ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 20:00:06 -0800 From: "mark shanahan" Subject: [AVALON] orson welles, 2001 tour & ferry's future (kinda long) daniel atterbom wrote: >The tragedy being that Orson Welles only made one masterpiece in Citizen >Kane, The Magnificant Ambersons being cut and having a new ending to it. >And the rest are not as good, imho. wow. are you including 'the third man'?? and what about 'the stranger' & 'touch of evil', 'lady from shanghai'? if you ask me, there's a lot ferry could tunnel through there for inspiration. (btw, daniel - very sorry to hear of your loss.) >From: David Firmin >Be glad you didn't have to deal with the LA crowd. >A girl next to me at the Greek show couldn't understand why I went ape shit >when Roxy did *Do the Strand*. >She seemed very disappointed as we were filing out and said "They didn't >even do *Slave To Love*". ah, in chicago, there was a guy (looked like a doctor?) with a 'date' (definitely _not_ a girlfriend) who said (when FYP started), 'they're not going to close with this _crap_, are they?!'. earlier, he had been asking why they hadn't done 'more than this' (though he couldn't remember the name of the tune) ... the *expression* on his face, when i offered that it had been written in too high a register and was done on the first date in dublin, but canned thereafter ... was so far beyond priceless, words will never, _ever_ describe ... :^) as to ferry's future ... the 'outdated' songs on 'frantic' - soon-to-be heard by all ... the well drying up, etc., etc. well, i seem to remember a discussion/general ennui that (pre-atgb tour) ferry's voice was truly *gone*. we all know, despite maybe a little 'reediness' early on, that those fears were unfounded. i feel the same way about our hero's future; not to worry. at least not in this regard. in terms of age, you might want to worry more about the man's _pace_ in releasing material (whether that be trouble getting rec. deals, etc.). i feel that we're all actually very extraordinarily lucky to have been able to witness all this ferry activity - since way back in '99. who knows what the future holds? he couldn't have made it through that plane ride for nothing. vive le ferry! and, lastly - for my part, i never personally meant to 'diss' john o'brien (and he knows that). as others have mentioned, my doubt was in the _total lack of artistic vision_ present in this cover artwork. my main concern also, like others, has to do with the musique. but the covers are part of the package. and this one's bloody awful. john has a GREAT site; i love vivaroxymusic.com. and i dig roxyrama and all the rest. they all provide us with a lot of truly invavuable info, IMO. so, bring on frantic ... even with it's cover. and all the pre-release reviews as well. peaces/ms _______________________________________________________________ Get the FREE email that has everyone talking at http://www.mail2world.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2002 00:14:21 -0600 (CST) From: MarlanaK@webtv.net (M.M.K.) Subject: [AVALON] Re: Eno I see several said they didn't see Eno on the Grammys. I don't think he was a figment of my imagination I sure hope not. But way to the side Bono thanked Eno & Lanois. If that wasn't Eno then he sure has a twin. U2 was on the stage for 4 awards. Maybe I was just seeing things . Marlana........................................................... ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2002 01:49:15 -0800 From: "Keith Shockley" Subject: Re: [AVALON] orson welles, 2001 tour & ferry's future (kinda long) - ----- Original Message ----- From: mark shanahan To: Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 8:00 PM Subject: [AVALON] orson welles, 2001 tour & ferry's future (kinda long) Touch of Evil is worth watching for, if nothing else, the great tracking shot at the beginning of the film. Keith NP: Venus in Furs / The Velvet Underground > daniel atterbom wrote: > >The tragedy being that Orson Welles only made one masterpiece in > Citizen > >Kane, The Magnificant Ambersons being cut and having a new ending to > it. > >And the rest are not as good, imho. > > wow. are you including 'the third man'?? and what about 'the stranger' & > 'touch of evil', 'lady from shanghai'? if you ask me, there's a lot > ferry could tunnel through there for inspiration. (btw, daniel - very > sorry to hear of your loss.) > > >From: David Firmin > >Be glad you didn't have to deal with the LA crowd. > >A girl next to me at the Greek show couldn't understand why I went ape > shit > >when Roxy did *Do the Strand*. > >She seemed very disappointed as we were filing out and said "They > didn't > >even do *Slave To Love*". > > ah, in chicago, there was a guy (looked like a doctor?) with a 'date' > (definitely _not_ a girlfriend) who said (when FYP started), 'they're > not going to close with this _crap_, are they?!'. earlier, he had been > asking why they hadn't done 'more than this' (though he couldn't > remember the name of the tune) ... the *expression* on his face, when i > offered that it had been written in too high a register and was done on > the first date in dublin, but canned thereafter ... was so far beyond > priceless, words will never, _ever_ describe ... :^) > > as to ferry's future ... the 'outdated' songs on 'frantic' - soon-to-be > heard by all ... the well drying up, etc., etc. well, i seem to remember > a discussion/general ennui that (pre-atgb tour) ferry's voice was truly > *gone*. we all know, despite maybe a little 'reediness' early on, that > those fears were unfounded. i feel the same way about our hero's future; > not to worry. at least not in this regard. in terms of age, you might > want to worry more about the man's _pace_ in releasing material (whether > that be trouble getting rec. deals, etc.). > > i feel that we're all actually very extraordinarily lucky to have been > able to witness all this ferry activity - since way back in '99. who > knows what the future holds? he couldn't have made it through that plane > ride for nothing. vive le ferry! > > and, lastly - for my part, i never personally meant to 'diss' john > o'brien (and he knows that). as others have mentioned, my doubt was in > the _total lack of artistic vision_ present in this cover artwork. my > main concern also, like others, has to do with the musique. but the > covers are part of the package. and this one's bloody awful. john has a > GREAT site; i love vivaroxymusic.com. and i dig roxyrama and all the > rest. they all provide us with a lot of truly invavuable info, IMO. > > so, bring on frantic ... even with it's cover. and all the pre-release > reviews as well. > > peaces/ms > _______________________________________________________________ > Get the FREE email that has everyone talking at > http://www.mail2world.com > > > ___________________________________________________________________________ > The subliminable footer says: > To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: > unsubscribe avalon ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 22:53:20 -0800 From: "N. S. Koff" Subject: [AVALON] Concord 2001 I have read the threads regarding the offering of items in the various ways they have been offered in the past on this list. Having "digested" the prior interactions, I have decided the fair thing to do is to expand this previously "for trade only" offer to include B & Ps to the first 6 people who respond OFF LIST. It will be ready in a couple of days. This offer is being made only to people who are willing to burn and offer an additional 6 copies each to others. Whether the next 36 continue to spread the wealth is out of my hands, morally speaking. That is, I believe, how a tree should work. If I have erred again, please let me know asap, but please be nice, okay? Warmest regards, etc. etc... ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2002 23:07:38 -0800 From: "N. S. Koff" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Concord 2001 At 10:53 PM 2/28/02, you wrote: >I have read the threads regarding the offering of items in the various >ways they have been offered in the past on this list. Having "digested" >the prior interactions, I have decided the fair thing to do is to expand >this previously "for trade only" offer to include B & Ps to the first 6 >people who respond OFF LIST. It will be ready in a couple of days. This >offer is being made only to people who are willing to burn and offer an >additional 6 copies each to others. Whether the next 36 continue to spread >the wealth is out of my hands, morally speaking. That is, I believe, how a >tree should work. If I have erred again, please let me know asap, but >please be nice, okay? > >Warmest regards, etc. etc... > SORRY -- Forgot to write this part: 1 from Europe, 1 from Australia, 1 from Great Britain and 3 from the USA Warmest regards, Nick Roxy Trade Page: http://boootlegs.com/roxy.htm Roxy Trade Page - Text Only: http://boootlegs.com/bootxt04.htm Other Trade Stuff: http://boootlegs.com/ ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2002 00:29:17 -0800 (PST) From: Aleks Kocan Subject: Re: [AVALON] CHATTER MATTER - --- "N. S. Koff" wrote: > Aleks understands I'm not a one-way "Production > machine" or something -- > why can't you? Nick - I'm really not sure whether to keep commenting about this, but I'll throw another one in. You are partially correct in your presumption that I understand that you are not a "one way production machine". Nobody expects you to do b&p's for everyone that wants one. Having said that, Grants response where he offered a small number of b&p's seemed more reasonable. There may be people on the list that have nothing they could trade with you Nick, but maybe would like a copy of the show. I am not suggesting though that you should start "mass production". At the end of the day Nick, maybe one of the people who hasn't anything to trade would like a copy, and in the future they might have something that you would like. There have been a number of occasions that I have sent something to an Avalonian because I knew they wanted to listen to it - I haven't expected anything in return as they have been one-offs. This has also worked the other way where some kind Avalonians have sent me something without even prompting. Maybe my idea of "sharing" is not the same as yours, sometimes it is a "one-way" street, but that doesn't bother me. If I send something to someone I don't automatically expect something in return. Maybe thats just the way I am. Of course I am extremely grateful to any Avalonians who have tree-d CD's in the past. I dread to think what would happen if we all got together for a drink in the pub - who would buy the first drink? Would we have to tree it? Or could I trade my beer for a glass of wine? Aleks p.s Nick and KBP - I would quite glady buy the first drink and the one after that etc... Yahoo! Greetings - Send FREE e-cards for every occasion! http://greetings.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2002 00:40:59 -0800 (PST) From: Aleks Kocan Subject: Re: [AVALON] Bowie won't be at the IoW Festival - --- David Firmin wrote: > What's Ferry doing on June 3? > http://www.ananova.com/entertainment/ Not sure - but HRH The Queen will host a Pop Concert in the Gardens at Buckingham Palace, and will light a National Beacon in the Mall followed by a Fireworks Display. I understand that Paul McCartney and Elton John are due to appear along with a host of others.... Aleks Yahoo! Greetings - Send FREE e-cards for every occasion! http://greetings.yahoo.com ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2002 09:40:51 +0100 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: Re: [AVALON] orson welles, 2001 tour & ferry's future (kinda long) At 05.00 +0100 2-03-01, mark shanahan wrote: >wow. are you including 'the third man'?? and what about 'the stranger' & >'touch of evil', 'lady from shanghai'? if you ask me, there's a lot >ferry could tunnel through there for inspiration. Yes but Orson Welles did not direct all of them, and I do not care for 'lady from shanghai'. 'touch of evil' was only completed vy Wells, then re-cut. I have not seen the restored version. > (btw, daniel - very sorry to hear of your loss.) Thank you Mark. NP Nick Drake River Man Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2002 09:38:22 +0100 From: Daniel Atterbom Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: death of a dog My heartfelt thanks to everyone that offered their sympathies on and off list. You've made a difficult time better. It was weird only to walk only one shepherd last night and not being greeted by a barking dog this morning. The other shepherd is bewildered and misses his playmate, he went looking for him in the woods last night. NP Oasis Half a world away Daniel ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 Mar 2002 00:50:53 -0800 From: "R. Jackson" Subject: [AVALON] Oh God. Sorry. I just accidentally sent a list of analog tapes to the list instead of the intended recipient. Hopefully there's some message size filtering in place and it won't make it through, but if not then PLEASE accept my apology. I don't know how I could have been so clumsy. - -Rob ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 Mar 2002 00:53:41 -0800 From: "N. S. Koff" Subject: Re: [AVALON] Re: death of a dog At 12:38 AM 3/1/02, you wrote: >My heartfelt thanks to everyone that offered their sympathies on and off >list. You've made a difficult time better. > >It was weird only to walk only one shepherd last night and not being >greeted by a barking dog this morning. The other shepherd is bewildered and >misses his playmate, he went looking for him in the woods last night. > >NP Oasis Half a world away > > >Daniel Daniel, you might want to think about getting a new puppy one of these days... There's nothing like a joyful new little life-force around to cheer everyone up. Warmest regards, Nick N/P: RM / The Hague, 1979 Roxy Trade Page: http://boootlegs.com/roxy.htm Roxy Trade Page - Text Only: http://boootlegs.com/bootxt04.htm Other Trade Stuff: http://boootlegs.com/ ___________________________________________________________________________ The subliminable footer says: To unsub, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: unsubscribe avalon ------------------------------ End of avalon-digest V7 #75 *************************** ======================================================================== For further info, mail majordomo@smoe.org with: info avalon-digest